Arsenal v QPR Saturday Dec 31st 15.00

[Cripps_orig]

Szczeny

Djourou Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen

Rosicky Song Ramsey

Theo Chamakh Oxlade

Got Fulham couple of days after this and RVP is needed for that more than this. Keep the defense the same. Arteta needs to GTFO asap. Hoping Theos over his illness and Chamakh to hopefully end a disastrous 2011 in a good way

[Marc Overmars]

1-1

[fakeyank]

We will lose this. Gervinho to be sent off for taking out Barton

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-0.

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

We will lose this. Gervinho to be sent off for taking out Barton

Ah yes, Gervinho vs Barton.

Gerv to do the job properly this time and really spark him out. :good:

[Master Splinter]

RVP needs to man up and bang in a hat-trick.

Can't have pub-team scum like She-Ra keeping the full-year goal record.

Rest RVP against Fulham as that will be a tough game no matter the team. At least RPQ's defence will allow him numerous chances.

Gervinho should be used as much as possible too before the ACON.

Rosicky should definitely play again.

Of course OAC should play, but he won't.

If we don't win this, Wenger out tbf.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

RVP needs to man up and bang in a hat-trick.

Can't have pub-team scum like She-Ra keeping the full-year goal record.

Rest RVP against Fulham as that will be a tough game no matter the team. At least RPQ's defence will allow him numerous chances.

Gervinho should be used as much as possible too before the ACON.

Rosicky should definitely play again.

Of course OAC should play, but he won't.

If we don't win this, Wenger out tbf.

:gp:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Arteta GTFO? :yawn:

Chamakh to score, would be nice, love to see as long as its in the right goal. . .RvP to start (injury free season looms)

Will win this QPR playong like a champoinship pub team which should Oxo :pray:

Hope Cerny doesnt play cos he had a Hennasseytic game gainst Mayoo (was it?) the other week. . .dont want any of that shit happening again!

[Joker]

===========Chesney===============

Djourou====Mertesacker==Koscielny===Vermaelen=

================Song===================

==========Ramsey=======Rosicky===========

Walcott===========================Oxlade-Chamberlain=

===============Park==============================

[Cripps_orig]

QPR got a decent draw at Swansea on Tuesday and they posed a threat in that game too, which they have not always done of late.

Arsenal slipped up in their last home game against Wolves, whose goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey had a stormer, but I just cannot see Rangers managing a repeat of that.

Defensively, QPR look vulnerable. They have let a lot of goals in this season and, with the way Arsenal attack teams, it is almost impossible that Rangers will hold out.

Prediction: 3-0

Lawros prediction

[Japan Shaking All Over]

RvP to start. . .needed and the record means more than some are making out!

[Cripps_orig]

Record means f all but id still play him cos hes our best striker

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Record means f all but id still play him cos hes our best striker

I'm not talking about the record meaning anything to us. . . .you. . .its just that it would be the same as declaring with Sachin on 99

Anyway youre right about him should be starting. . .

1) hes fit
2) hes the club captain
3) hes our best striker

[Syn]

I don't think this record would hold much sentimental value for him. Nobody really cares about 'calender' records - season tallys are more important IMO.

I want Van Persie to play. But if Wenger rests Van Persie, I know it's not a decision he would've taken lightly. Apparently the secret behind Van Persie's injury-free run is going on this GPS system which tracks his energy levels and workrate. Not long ago Wenger said he needed to rest him and since Van Persie hasn't exactly been great on the pitch either.

We'll be ok in this. 2-0.

[GP]

You bitches be trippin'

3-0

Walcott, Arteta, van Persie.

Yep.

[Niall_Quinn]

6-0 to us. RvP with 4, Theo x 1, TV x 1, plus 16 off the post, 12 denied pens and a partridge in a pear tree. Arshavin to come on and run more than 100 yards (though I won't commit to this, might be fanciful). Chamakh to pass the ball forwards more than once (my dark horse bet).

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh and Happy Christmas to all the bastard faces on GW!

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think this record would hold much sentimental value for him. Nobody really cares about 'calender' records - season tallys are more important IMO.

If he breaks the record for 2011 then it's a very important record. If he doesn't then it's meaningless.

[Syn]

If he breaks the record for 2011 then it's a very important record. If he doesn't then it's meaningless.

Agreed.

And season's greetings 2u2.

[Syn]

RVP starts tomorrow. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-ll-assess-robin-after-qpr-game

Think we'll be at full strength (well...as much as available).

-----Shjvsdlkfjdfy-----

JD---Kos---Mert---Verm

---MA--Song--AR-----

Theo----RVP---Genilson

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Ransey brought out doghouse, Beni didnt taje his chance. . .wheres Rosicky?

[Cripps_orig]

Looking forward to this match tomorrow but cba going all the way there

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Hoping this match has around 7 hours time added on (pitch gets invaded by plague of strippers). . . .so we can bring Henry on at 1 minute past midnight

[Master Splinter]

I hope Shaun Derry scores.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Hoping this match has around 7 hours time added on (pitch gets invaded by plague of strippers). . . .so we can bring Henry on at 1 minute past midnight

Are the strippers female?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Are the strippers female?

Preferably. . . .because even the introduction of TH14 would help me regain my appetite for the match after watching a plague of males run around with their willies hanging out :vomit:

[Marc Overmars]

RVP starts tomorrow. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-ll-assess-robin-after-qpr-game

Think we'll be at full strength (well...as much as available).

-----Shjvsdlkfjdfy-----

JD---Kos---Mert---Verm

---MA--Song--AR-----

Theo----RVP---Genilson

So we'll bring in the pub teamers for Fulham then.

[Joker]

It would make more sense to rest some of the first teamers today, and hope the pub teamers muddle through at home, while playing our best team against Fulham in what has historically always been a difficult game. However, listening to Wenger it seems RVP will play today and rested at Fulham, which doesn't make much sense tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So we'll bring in the pub teamers for Fulham then.

Or Leeds.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Let's kick their backdoors in!!! 5-0 to the Arsenal.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Szczesny, Djourou, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Song, Arteta, Ramsey, Walcott, Van Persie, Arshavin.

Subs - Almunia, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho, Chamakh, Benayoun, Coquelin.

Come on Arshavin. Do something good.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Poor old Oxocube.

[Marc Overmars]

No excuse for Arshavin here.

Starting with the first 11, time for the fat fuck to step up.

Park not involved again? :rolleyes:

Marketing signings. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Why oh why is that cunt Chamakh on the bench again? What does Wenger think this waster provides? Wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give Oxo a run-out? Don't understand it at all. It's fucked up.

[GP]

Any of you bitches got a stream?

[Syn]

On the train to London so relying on gw (maccy) for updates. You have to question what the hell arsene is thinking starting the fat russian. The joke has gone far enough now. Oxlade deserves a chance. A bad game from arshavin will not be well received.

[Marc Overmars]

Come on you Gunners!!

[Master Splinter]

Bothroyd with a decent shot.

One of these ex-Arsenal legends will score today.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nothing to report on at the moment. We have Paul Walsh on Soccer Saturday so if we do anything worthy of praise, it's not going to be said.

[Niall_Quinn]

Any of you bitches got a stream?

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/100302/1/watch-arsenal-vs-queens-park-rangers.html

[GP]

Chesney saves from Phillips.

[Dennis Bendtner]

SWP played in, good save from Szcz.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shzneegy makes a save. :bow:

[GP]

Scores when he wants, he scores when he wants!

[GP]

Kos wins a corner :lol:

[milla]

ZZzzZZZzzz... :sleep:

[GP]

Ohh, BSR twists his way into the box :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Twisting and turning from RVP but a harmless shot in the end.

[GP]

Phillips offside.

[fakeyank]

Arshavin is crap

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How hasn't that been seen? Arshavin just got elbowed in the face.

[GP]

Taraabt should be off. Elbowed Arshavin in the face.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Taarabt elbowed Arshavin, I think.

[Niall_Quinn]

Red card offence ignored by the ref and the so called "assistant" refs. 4th official doesn't see it either. In other words, the officials have changed the rules again.

[Master Splinter]

Close from RVP!

Headed wide on the stretch.

[GP]

BSR goes close. Good technique.

[GP]

BSR so close :o

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RVP clears one. Good skill though.

[Master Splinter]

RVP :doh:. Should score.

Djourou :bow:.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Djouroudona. :bow:

What play.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

DJ :bow:

[GP]

Barton goes right through Arteta :rolleyes:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Barton cock

[Master Splinter]

Barton cunting it up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barton booked, very late challenge on Arteta.

[GP]

Actually that's even worse than I thought. Studs straight into his ankle.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FFS Theo.

[GP]

Feo clears one :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Walcott - WTF?

[Master Splinter]

Should be 2-0 now.

We're going to regret these missed chances again.

[Master Splinter]

Ramsey missed anyway :lol:.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Arshavin offside, he missed anyway.

oh was it Ramsey? oops

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RVP = Heskey.

:rose:

[Dennis Bendtner]

Volleyed just over. damn

[GP]

BSR puts it over :doh:

[Master Splinter]

RVP :doh:.

Bring Henry on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Is this record thing killing RvP? How many misses before we pay the price?

[fakeyank]

Fucking assholes going to regret the misses!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's terrible from Theo.

[Niall_Quinn]

Walcott is shite. Bring on Oxo FFS!

[Dennis Bendtner]

LOLcott :haha:

What was that?

[GP]

Theo :doh:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Walcott looks still sick? ?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And that was terrible from Arteta.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kos and JD > Arshavin and Walcott on the flanks. Scandalous really.

[WilshereourGHEL]

Chamackh has done some african voodoo on rvp today switched technical abilities around the cunt

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Awwwwe come on

[Master Splinter]

RPQ wonder goal or deflection special coming up?

[GP]

ffs Theo. How shit do you have to be to lose out to Traore?

[GP]

That was off his hand

[Niall_Quinn]

Arms up, stops the shot, 100% pen.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Fucking Arshavin Walcott playong on same flank!
Ramsey had no one to pass to!

[Dennis Bendtner]

Atkinson is a cretin. Books Vermaelen :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vermaelen booked. :haha: It was Koscielny you twat.

[Niall_Quinn]

Stupid twat of a ref books TV for nothing.

[Master Splinter]

Atkinson books Vermaelen for Koscielny's tackle.

:haha:

Atkinson :doh:.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kos got the ball anyway, it wasn't even a foul. Will the stupid cunt of a ref send TV off for his next foul now?

[fakeyank]

Atkinson books Vermaelen for Koscielny's tackle.

:haha:

Atkinson :doh:.

:lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Atikinson having a mare

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Djourou fouls. Song had better watch out.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Djourou booked for taking out Barton. Half expecting him to book Song.

[Niall_Quinn]

Horrible dive by Barton, JD never touched him. Surprised TV didn't get a red.

[fakeyank]

We look clueless

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref books Eduardo.

[GP]

Another handball???

wtf is going on?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great effort from Ramsey, sorted his legs out for once.

[GP]

Good effort Arteta

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Come on Arsenal

[fakeyank]

Do somethimg from corners. Fucking waste!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Cash in on Arshavin before its too late, he looks damaged goods already

[Master Splinter]

Koscielny :bow:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 half time. Just shite really.

[fakeyank]

RVP :rose:

[Marc Overmars]

Run out of gas.

Wenger out.

[fakeyank]

Cash in on Arshavin before its too late, he looks damaged goods already

Oxo still wont get on though...

[Master Splinter]

Should be 3-0 up.

At least we haven't conceded a stupid goal though.

We have to watch out for Atkinson, he's quite dangerous. A real threat.

Gervinho and OAC on please.

[milla]

LOL QPR should win this, Arsenal is playing without wingers and missing one midfielder LOL. :coffee:

[fakeyank]

Should be 3-0 up.

At least we haven't conceded a stupid goal though.

We have to watch out for Atkinson, he's quite dangerous. A real threat.

Gervinho and OAC on please.

Gerv will come on around 70 mins. Oxo wont play as long as he looks like a solid player.. On the bright side, chamakh will definitely be on!

[Niall_Quinn]

Atkinson dreadful, so are his poxy assistants. Clear red card they just ignored. Blatant penalty, ignored. Then he books the wrong guy for a non-foul. Dire.

QPR here for a 0-0 and we might give it to them with our carelessness. Arshavin and Walcott hopeless, as could easily have been predicted before the game kicked off. All that remains is to bring Chamakh on I suppose. Defence looks solid again, although they aren't up against much. Ramsey has been involved but he's slowing the game down too. maybe because the wide guys are giving him absolutely nothing and RvP is his only option up front. Song quiet, need more from him in the second half. We should win this one with just a bit more care an attention.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

bring gervinho on for walcott. he's been pish. Atkinson has been QPR's best player so far. It's only a matter of time till that bawbag barton gets a red. If TV5 gets booked again it'll be the biggest fuck up of the season so far (unless the 4th official sorts it out). RVP for a 2nd half hat trick. He should have had 2 with the pen decisions aganst us tho.

[Joker]

Shit half, need to improve otherwise we're going to drop points again. RVP looks shit today, he's gone back to how he was before this season, hiding when we need him to score important goals.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Need something like a coconut to drop from the sky and kill Atkinson if we're going to get anything out of this game:frown:

[Niall_Quinn]

Shit half, need to improve otherwise we're going to drop points again. RVP looks shit today, he's gone back to how he was before this season, hiding when we need him to score important goals.

Yeah, RvP has been involved in all the most dangerous play and is the only effective player we have up top today. He should definitely be singled out for criticism. We should also write off all the goals he's scored so far. Sell him in January, he's shit.

[bignev]

Shit half, need to improve otherwise we're going to drop points again. RVP looks shit today, he's gone back to how he was before this season, hiding when we need him to score important goals.

It's unlikely RVP will score in EVERY game. Some people are such idiots.

This is the problem with being reliant on one player to score, when they don't you struggle.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Shit half, need to improve otherwise we're going to drop points again. RVP looks shit today, he's gone back to how he was before this season, hiding when we need him to score important goals.

S'ppose we should sell him?

Oi everyone Twat's back! . . . .you are a true mug Joker!

[fakeyank]

Lets not put all our blame on the ref. Our players have been garbage and that is why we are tied at HT... Theo and arshavin are liabilities... Getting owned by traore says it all really!

[Niall_Quinn]

So it sounds like the TV card has not been resolved at HT? Why? How hard can it be?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Lets not put all our blame on the ref. Our players have been garbage and that is why we are tied at HT... Theo and arshavin are liabilities... Getting owned by traore says it all really!

And people hate Gervs. . .get Arshavin off and Gervs on!

[Niall_Quinn]

Mackey boots the ball into the net after the whistle. No card. Refs make up the rules as they go.

[GP]

Nice play from Arsh and Rams there

[fakeyank]

And people hate Gervs. . .get Arshavin off and Gervs on!

He is being rested by AW for ACON..

[Niall_Quinn]

Song's got to do better than that!

[Niall_Quinn]

He is being rested by AW for ACON..

Can't wait for ACON this time. Chamakh confirmed as going.

[GP]

Coq au Vin coming on.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Coquelin is coming on.

[fakeyank]

Why is coq coming on?

[Niall_Quinn]

TV injured. We're cursed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Luke Young booked.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Young takes out Walcott 10 yards off the pitch...

[Master Splinter]

Vermaelen out for the season.

Koscielny to break his left ear next.

[Niall_Quinn]

Young gets a yellow, should be his second following his deliberate handball. But the ref ignored that.

[fakeyank]

TV out :lol:

[GP]

Vermaelen out for the season.

Koscielny to break his left ear next.

Aye Carumba!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FFS Theo.

[Niall_Quinn]

Enough now - get Walcott off.

[Master Splinter]

Theo :doh:.

Oh dear.

[GP]

Holy fuck on a stick

[Dennis Bendtner]

Oh my god. That is dreadful. Great play by the bloke who passed to him.

[fakeyank]

Execute theo... End of!

[WilshereourGHEL]

Henry woulda scored that

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Now tell me you dont want Henry!

[Master Splinter]

Ramsey's had a good game today.

Shame no-one can finish in our team.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bothroyd has spent the whole game trying to get FKs out of Kos. Kos quite rightly treating him as his bitch.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Arshavin rubbish
Theo no confidence

Your shopping list for January is getting longer Mr Wenger

[fakeyank]

England will win the WC with players like theo :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RVP!!!!!

[Master Splinter]

RVP!!!!!!!!

[GP]

BSR!!!!

About time too!

[Dennis Bendtner]

That is how it's done.

[AKBapologist]

1-0

Joker :pal:

[mkkreuk]

FUCKING HAVE IT!

[Niall_Quinn]

RvP shows how it should be done. Nice pass by Arshavin.

[GP]

Awesome assist from the arshavin

[Niall_Quinn]

How anyone can call us a one man team is beyond me.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

FFS RvP stop hiding!

Joker you listening to yourself you nut! Or does that not count?

[fakeyank]

Theo you fucking cunt, learn a thing or two on finishing. Leave football for people with brains.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's the Arshavin I want to see more of. Clueless for most of the game but does something constructive during it - not the completely clueless one we have seen most of the season.

[Marc Overmars]

RVP. :bow:

What a god.

2 more. :popcorn:

[bignev]

Shit half, need to improve otherwise we're going to drop points again. RVP looks shit today, he's gone back to how he was before this season, hiding when we need him to score important goals.

Welcome to Loserville. Population YOU!!!!!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arshavin saw his Barcelona moment there.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Coquelin can really play. Rather not have him at left-back though :unsure:

[GP]

Bothroyd :wave:

Fuck off and don't come back.

[Arsenal Royal]

Ramsey is awesome today! He made some great passes :scarf:!

[mkkreuk]

I'll admit that van persie does look tired. Still looking dangerous, but he needs a rest. Can we afford to give him one is the questions.

[Marc Overmars]

I'll admit that van persie does look tired. Still looking dangerous, but he needs a rest. Can we afford to give him one is the questions.

Nope, he's the only reliable source of goals in the team.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Taarabt brings a save out of Szgzhaneny.

[fakeyank]

I'll admit that van persie does look tired. Still looking dangerous, but he needs a rest. Can we afford to give him one is the questions.

Ofcourse we can! We have a world class striker called chamakh waiting to score goals by the bucketload

[AKBapologist]

Coch has been good since coming on.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

That's the Arshavin I want to see more of. Clueless for most of the game but does something constructive during it - not the completely clueless one we have seen most of the season.

I agree. . .workrate can come secondary if you have flashes of genius. . .Berbatov is the same 5 goals in 2 games aint bad for simeone that little apart. . .

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arshavin off, Rosicky on.

[GP]

Shaun Phillips is awful.

[mkkreuk]

Coquelin is pretty smart at reading the play. Couple of times he's seen sloppy play from QPR and jumped in.

[Niall_Quinn]

That'll teach Arshavin for playing a good ball. He's off, Rosicky on, Theo still on. Strange indeed.

[GP]

the fuck? Barton swings at Arteta

[Dennis Bendtner]

That's a dive

[Master Splinter]

Officials trying their best to even it up.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Another dive to try and win a pen :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Gervinho ready to come on, probably for RvP or Chesney.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Strange how you can suddenly think Atkinson is a great ref. . .

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey hits one over.

[Master Splinter]

Gary Neville on for RPQ.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mackie off, Smith on.

Theo hauled off, Gervinho on.

[fakeyank]

Finally the cunt is off!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Gervs yeeeeeeeah!

One man Gerv fan club

[mkkreuk]

gerv replaces walcott

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo off, Gerv on. Theo useless again today. Maybe next year he will be a worldbeater.

[mkkreuk]

Gervs yeeeeeeeah!

One man Gerv fan club

Im a paid up member!

[Master Splinter]

Gervinho does more than Arshavin and Theo in ten seconds.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gervinho nutmegged Barton in his first involvment. :haha:

[GP]

Lovely nutmeg on Barton :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Gerv greedy, wrong decision, should have played RvP in for 2-0 (especially as he's the only player who can score a goal)

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Gerv nutmegs Cunton. . .dhould have given him a slap

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Oh Gervinho. :(

[Master Splinter]

Gervinho :doh:.

:haha:

[Dennis Bendtner]

Gervais has had two chances since coming on. Should've scored there.

[Niall_Quinn]

Terrible miss by Gervinho. He should have played it back to RvP to try from an impossible angle - would have had more chance of a goal.

[fakeyank]

how terrible are walcott and gervinho??

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Even I can say thay was bad

[gunnerrrrr]

fcuk a 40 year old Henry would be better than Gerbil and Theo

[Marc Overmars]

Please for the love of god buy a striker.

[fakeyank]

fcuk a 40 year old donkey would be better than Gerbil and Theo

:gp:

[Niall_Quinn]

We need better players wide. Gervinho and Walcott are busy players, but they aren't good players.

[Master Splinter]

RVP :doh:.

Ball was for Gervinho.

[mkkreuk]

van persie should have left it gervinho was in behind

[fakeyank]

van persie should have left it gervinho was in behind

Whats the point? He would have missed anyway :rolleyes:

[Newguy]

How many back heels has Ramsey tried and failed with???? He's gotta learn to keep it simple

[Dennis Bendtner]

Rosicky not scored a PL goal for nearly two years :faint:

[Dennis Bendtner]

For god's sake Gervais :rolleyes:

[mkkreuk]

Gervinho should have buried that. So wasteful

[Niall_Quinn]

It's starting to look like Gerv is shite. There's a lot of evidence in now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 FT!

That will do!

[mkkreuk]

1-0 to the arsenal, 1-0 to the arsenal!!!!!!!! 4th place is ours. Now to march on for 3rd

[gunnerrrrr]

It's starting to look like Gerv is shite. There's a lot of evidence in now.
you're being kind.....

[Niall_Quinn]

Poor. Thank fuck for RvP. 35 goals in 2011, top scorer in the PL. He's shit. Sell him.

[Coney]

3 points.

Into the top 4 before the end of the year despite a pile of toss during August. :scarf:

[Marc Overmars]

Ve Vin!

[Edinburgh Gooner]

top 4 in the new year. Who would have thought it after the debacle at OT?? Bring on the mancs!!!

[fakeyank]

Either we change formation and play two up front or we replace gervinho wally n arshavin. They are useless in a 4-3-3... Not that they will be any good in any other but at least RVP will have another person to play ball with.