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Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:31 AM
Anyone doing anything? having a party? a night out?

Or are we all too scared of being called Nazi's and racists

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 11:32 AM
When is it?

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:35 AM
When is it?

Today

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 11:36 AM
When is it?

Today, come on lad sort it out

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 11:37 AM
Shows how much i care about it :lol:

Sooner we take over this country and get rid of Pub Team days like this, the better

GP
23-04-2012, 11:38 AM
St. Georges :bow:

Arguably more important that those other pointless hallmark holidays like pancake day, valentines day or ramadan.

LDG
23-04-2012, 11:39 AM
:haha:

Joker
23-04-2012, 11:39 AM
I wanted to celebrate it but those pesky Islamofascist left wing homosexual communists next door said they'd be offended.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:39 AM
St. Georges :bow:

Arguably more important that those other pointless hallmark holidays like pancake day, valentines day or ramadan.

:lol:

GP
23-04-2012, 11:40 AM
I wanted to celebrate it but those pesky Islamofascist left wing homosexual communists next door said they'd be offended.

I bet they were black. The ****s.

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 11:40 AM
Isnt this George dude the guy that we saw in the opening ceremony of Euro 96?

And they created a day for him?

Impressive

Do Americans have a Diana Ross day?

LDG
23-04-2012, 11:40 AM
I wish we could have some pride it in....but as you say, Falvs, we just get labled Facist and Racist.

They are two of my favourite "Ists" though, tbf.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:40 AM
I wanted to celebrate it but those pesky Islamofascist left wing homosexual communists next door said they'd be offended.

Well it's all about tolerance mate

Joker
23-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Who would label us fascist or racist for celebrating it?

GP
23-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Who would label us fascist or racist for celebrating it?

The muslamic infidel.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Isnt this George dude the guy that we saw in the opening ceremony of Euro 96?

And they created a day for him?

Impressive

Do Americans have a Diana Ross day?

Well no, the one we are on about was Turkish and told folk he had killed a dragon

Joker
23-04-2012, 11:42 AM
The muslamic infidel.

:lol:

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:42 AM
Well it's all about tolerance mate

Must be - an Islamofascist homosexual? That's serious tolerance. :unsure:

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:42 AM
Who would label us fascist or racist for celebrating it?

No-one of course but people are too scared they might.

Awful country this really

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 11:43 AM
Who would label us fascist or racist for celebrating it?How would the English go about celebrating St Georges?

Getting drunk, drink driving, raping young women/men/dogs, pissing on war heroes graves etc etc?

How is that different to any other day?

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:43 AM
No-one of course but people are too scared they might.

Awful country this really

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:44 AM
How would the English go about celebrating St Georges?

Getting drunk, drink driving, raping young women/men/dogs, pissing on war heroes graves etc etc?

How is that different to any other day?

Well maybe the drinking bit, they will leave the rest to the great nations of Islam :good:

LDG
23-04-2012, 11:44 AM
Some brownie might burn my flag if I start waving it :(

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:45 AM
I'm not celebrating St George. April 23rd to me signifies the death of that **** Shakespeare who has made schoolboy's lives a misery. Shakespeare lovers can just fuck off. Tudor brown-nosing twat.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:45 AM
Some brownie might burn my flag if I start waving it :(

See a cub scout would never do that

GP
23-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Shakespeare was an illiterate shithead.

He can go fuck thineself.

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 11:46 AM
I'm not celebrating St George. April 23rd to me signifies the death of that **** Shakespeare who has made schoolboy's lives a misery. Shakespeare lovers can just fuck off. Tudor brown-nosing twat.Did he touch schoolboys in a special place?

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Tudor brown-nosing twat.

sounds like a period drama porno tbf

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Shakespeare was an illiterate shithead.

He can go fuck thineself.

:haha:

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:47 AM
Now is the winter of our discontent made worse by that **** Shakespeare.

Shall I compare thee to a ****? Thou art more ****ish than 1000 ****s.

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:48 AM
sounds like a period drama porno tbf

No - that's red-nosing.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:49 AM
Now is the winter of our discontent made worse by that **** Shakespeare.

Shall I compare thee to a ****? Thou art more ****ish than 1000 ****s.

He was a great Brit, you should be proud

Coney
23-04-2012, 11:50 AM
He was a great shit, you should be proud

I'm a Newton man, myself. :good:

Flavs
23-04-2012, 11:55 AM
Jeesh it's not like Old Bill shagged your mum is it


or is it? :unsure:

Syn
23-04-2012, 12:02 PM
I keyed a Volkswagen. Come on England!

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:04 PM
Seriously though why is nationalism seen as hand in hand with fascism in this country? Why does the image of a St Georges cross bring to mind a skinhead in a green bomber jacket stomping on a black/Asian/other with his Doc Martens?

The fact St Patricks day is celebrated more than Georges sums it up really.

Joker
23-04-2012, 12:11 PM
If you look at the Nationalist parties in the UK apart from England, they all are broadly left wing progressives (SNP in Scotland, Plaid Cymru in Wales and Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland). They are able to produce an inclusive sort of nationalism that appears beyond us in England. Billy Bragg was actually attempting to "reclaim" the St George's flag away from the far right racists in the BNP and National Front, but I don't know how successful that's been. I think one reason for it may be our Imperialist past, which is why a lot of people are (rightly or wrongly) uncomfortable waving the flag, which means the only ones doing it are facists and racists.

Syn
23-04-2012, 12:13 PM
Well it's because the only time you tend to see the union jack, or in this case, st george's cross being waved are in nationalist protests. They'll be out for the Euros and Olympics though. Seems to be socially acceptable then.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:17 PM
Well it's because the only time you tend to see the union jack, or in this case, st george's cross being waved are in nationalist protests. They'll be out for the Euros and Olympics though. Seems to be socially acceptable then.

It seems to be sociably acceptable to wave a flag in support of the country when they are playing sport but any other time and its racist?

Jeesh what a fucked up country

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 12:17 PM
Shows how much i care about it :lol:

Sooner we take over this country and get rid of Pub Team days like this, the better

Don't worry West ham Ghel's will be pumped up and want to do well on St Geroges day.

Take over this country you got no chance.

Coney
23-04-2012, 12:19 PM
Seriously though why is nationalism seen as hand in hand with fascism in this country? Why does the image of a St Georges cross bring to mind a skinhead in a green bomber jacket stomping on a black/Asian/other with his Doc Martens?

The fact St Patricks day is celebrated more than Georges sums it up really.

The reason is simple. The National Front used the union jack to claim that only those supporting white indigenous people and forced repatriation of anyone with a different skin colour were true Brits. They changed their name to the BNP/EDL to pretend they had changed but they still maintain that basic policy. Since no-one else in the country (apart from the Tories at play or the odd olympic games) used the flag, it came to symbolise the worst excesses of nationalism, racisim, xenophobia and intollerance of people who were in any way 'different'. The NF/BNP/EDL have applied the same attachment to the English St George's Cross and smeared it in the same way.

In order to win it back, those of us who do not go for the fascist crap need to use it appropriately. When the England team is being supported (yeah, I know) and all over the country you could see the English flag, it lost it's fascist imagery. Basically, we need to have more events where people do that to clear the air of the old image.

In countries like Scotland, Ireland and Wales which are or have been English colonies, the nationalism it represents is about an identity, not a suppression of minorities or the English (though I am comfortable with, and accept the latter) and so it is a more positive statement on national identity.

We need to find a way of undermining the racist, fascist and xenophobic scum who taint the flag.

Joker
23-04-2012, 12:20 PM
It's only considered racist because the people doing the waving recently have been the far right. That doesn't seem to be case in Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc. Maybe if more "non fascist" people did enjoy St George's day, waved the flag etc then you could reclaim it from the far right.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:22 PM
We need to find a way of undermining the racist, fascist and xenophobic scum who taint the flag.

They could put a picture of Lenny Henry on it?

LDG
23-04-2012, 12:22 PM
It's all a bit shit tbh. I think the English should be proud of their country, and should celebrate a national day.

I don't regard myself as British, purely because Scottish, Welsh and Irish people (in the most part) disassociate themselves with Britain, so they can fuck off tbf.

But I don't drink on Tuesdays, so I'll raise a glass to England on Friday :good:

Coney
23-04-2012, 12:23 PM
It's only considered racist because the people doing the waving recently have been the far right. That doesn't seem to be case in Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc. Maybe if more "non fascist" people did enjoy St George's day, waved the flag etc then you could reclaim it from the far right.

Or just repatriate all the non-whites and then the BNP will have nothing to complain about.

Letters
23-04-2012, 12:23 PM
No-one of course but people are too scared they might.

Are they? I just don't think people care about it. I don't care about it.
Meh :shrug:

Letters
23-04-2012, 12:23 PM
I'm not celebrating St George. April 23rd to me signifies the death of that **** Shakespeare who has made schoolboy's lives a misery. Shakespeare lovers can just fuck off. Tudor brown-nosing twat.He bully you at school?

LDG
23-04-2012, 12:24 PM
BTW. It's not Tuesday.

My head is fucked up.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:25 PM
Are they? I just don't think people care about it. I don't care about it.
Meh :shrug:

I think the nonchalance has come from the fear to be honest

Hump
23-04-2012, 12:25 PM
In Hump Towers will be celebrating the Holy day of the Patron Saint of Syphillis with large deep intra-muscular shots of pencillin.

Letters
23-04-2012, 12:26 PM
I think the nonchalance has come from the fear to be honest
Did people care about it before all the darkies came over? I don't think it's ever really been celebrated has it?

LDG
23-04-2012, 12:26 PM
In Hump Towers will be celebrating the Holy day of the Patron Saint of Syphillis with large deep intra-muscular shots of pencillin.

Scotland :bow:

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 12:27 PM
Or just repatriate all the non-whites and then the BNP will have nothing to complain about.

Its Not all Non whites who complain i don't think the Majority give to shits tbh, If the PC Twats Who say this shit to cause more racial tensions. These are the real Racists.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:30 PM
Did people care about it before all the darkies came over? I don't think it's ever really been celebrated has it?

Yes i think they did although less of a shit is given about such things anymore i do think they were more celebrated before all these foriegn twats started coming here.

I blame middle class white folks tbh, they fuck all this shit up

Joker
23-04-2012, 12:33 PM
Its Not all Non whites who complain i don't think the Majority give to shits tbh, If the PC Twats Who say this shit to cause more racial tensions. These are the real Racists.

No the real racists are the far right scumbags who use the St George's Flag and the Union Jack as a symbol of their own obnoxious views about "race".

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 12:39 PM
No the real racists are the far right scumbags who use the St George's Flag and the Union Jack as a symbol of their own obnoxious views about "race".

Those guys are Ignorant muppets who still think England should be like the 50/60/70s No dogs, No Blacks and no Irish (in the pubs)

They won't fully support the england footie team cause it not all white.

When i say real Racist i mean like Iago. Who will pretend they are not but sneakly are and will use the PC thing to help their Agenda.

Letters
23-04-2012, 12:40 PM
I blame middle class white folks tbh, they fuck all this shit up
I apologise on behalf of my socio-economic group :(


I am only lower middle class though.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:44 PM
Those guys are Ignorant muppets who still think England should be like the 40/50s/ No dogs

.

:wacko:

Joker
23-04-2012, 12:46 PM
:wacko:

That's true about the far right though isn't it?

LDG
23-04-2012, 12:46 PM
:lol:

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Anyone doing anything? having a party? a night out?

Or are we all too scared of being called Nazi's and racists

If no one called you Racist when you waved yor flag during the World cup i doubt they would now.

You don't call the Irish Racist on St Patricks day or the Scots on St Andrews day or the Welsh on St David's day.

I just think people in this country are not passionate about the day as they should be.

People only seem to get excited when the royals get Married etc then we decided we should throw street party's etc.

Also i think had it been on a weekend there may have been more celebarations.

Olivier's xmas twist
23-04-2012, 12:51 PM
:wacko:

Well in those days, these were the signs outside the pubs or aim i wrong.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 12:53 PM
Well in those days, these were the signs outside the pubs or aim i wrong.

No, you are right mate outside any good nationalist pub in the 50's there was a sign saying

"No nigga's, paki's or dogs"

Xhaka Can’t
23-04-2012, 01:02 PM
Jeesh what a fucked up country

Exactly.

So why celebrate it?

Japan Shaking All Over
23-04-2012, 01:12 PM
Those guys are Ignorant muppets who still think England should be like the 50/60/70s No dogs, No Blacks and no Irish (in the pubs)

They won't fully support the england footie team cause it not all white.

When i say real Racist i mean like Iago. Who will pretend they are not but sneakly are and will use the PC thing to help their Agenda.

Shit I dont why they made dogs, blacks and Irish the fucking centre of attention. . ,I always thought the day was meant to be a bit of a downer for anyone who is a dragon

Flavs
23-04-2012, 01:12 PM
Exactly.

So why celebrate it?

Ok let me "adapt" they slightly.

The country and 99.9% of the people who live here are fantastic it is for the most part a truly beautiful nation steeped in history and glory with some true legends that most countries around the world can only be jealous of.

So be proud of it and celebrate it for what it is, don't let the few brainless morons spoil it

Xhaka Can’t
23-04-2012, 01:16 PM
Ok let me "adapt" they slightly.

The country and 99.9% of the people who live here are fantastic it is for the most part a truly beautiful nation steeped in history and glory with some true legends that most countries around the world can only be jealous of.

So be proud of it and celebrate it for what it is, don't let the few brainless morons spoil it

Your entire modern culture is a celebration of the fact that a few brainless morons pretty much have licence to spoil everything.

Flavs
23-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Your entire modern culture is a celebration of the fact that a few brainless morons pretty much have licence to spoil everything.

What mine personally?

Coney
23-04-2012, 04:48 PM
Your entire modern culture is a celebration of the fact that a few brainless morons pretty much have licence to spoil everything.

Yeah - they are called mods.

Marc Overmars
23-04-2012, 05:10 PM
England. :lol:

Awful nation.

Master Splinter
23-04-2012, 07:23 PM
That bird in Aladdin was racist?

Also, did Billy Shakers successfully woo Ann Hathaway from the clutches of Kony? Could explain the disdain.

Cripps_orig
23-04-2012, 07:26 PM
That bird in Aladdin was racist?
Twas the parrot

Marc Overmars
23-04-2012, 08:19 PM
Jasmine. :bow: