Pep the Muppet and Other Citeh Shit

[The Wengerbabies]

Kolo Toure has been given a 6 month drug ban backdated to March so he can play again in September bit of a mockery tbh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1391269/Manchester-City-defender-Kolo-Toure-hit-month-ban-failed-drug-test.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah it's a bit of a nothing punishment.

I'm still not quite sure how Rio was banned for 9 months for just missing a test.

The FA. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wasn't he just taking something for a cold? Or am I being hopelessly naive?

[The Wengerbabies]

Wasn't he just taking something for a cold? Or am I being hopelessly naive?
He took one of his wife's diet pills :lol:

Prolly why its such a light punishment.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Man City = diseased cunts.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=220796&start=80 GB :bow:

[Kaiser]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/wayne-rooney-man-city-fan-tattooo.jpg (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/man_utd/49864/wayne-rooney-tattoo-fail-dumb-man-city-fan-blows-500-on-rooney-ink.html/attachment/wayne-rooney-man-city-fan-tattooo)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/06/article-0-0351A2E9000005DC-374_306x356.jpg

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/C_71_article_1132137_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg

:bow:

[GP]

Man City = diseased cunts.

Like a blue waffle?

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/C_71_article_1132137_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg



Stephen Ireland :pal:

[The Wengerbabies]

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=220796&start=80 GB :bow:
Inter-forum mention

New GW :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

:lol:

I see the new advertisement is going well

Also one of the posts on there, the long ass one which was so full of BS. Nothing before Wenger? Have they forgotten Grahams years? We probably won more with that one manager than City have in their miserable existence.

The stupidity of Mancs coming to the fore yet again :bow:

[Sirjackofwilshere]

:d:(http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206931&view=next

[Cripps_orig]

Board wars :popcorn:

Although they will need a lot more material tbh.

All we have to say is Arsenal 13 titles, Man City fuck knows

Game, set and match Arsenal id say

[The Wengerbabies]

They've (Blue Moon) made it impossible for non fans to sign up.

Their spambot filter question is
Who scored City's equaliser in the 1999 Play Off final?:Who the fuck is gonna know that.

[Cripps_orig]

I managed to sign up there a few months ago.

I didnt have a question :shrug:

[The Wengerbabies]

I managed to sign up there a few months ago.

I didnt have a question :shrug:
Must've added it.

Anyway I googled it (Paul Dickov, if anyone's interested).

How long did you have to wait before they let you post?

[Marc Overmars]

All forums are the same, you can cherry pick outrageous comments and laugh to your heart's content. Had plenty of laughs from Bluemoon, RAWK, Redcafe etc... and I'm sure we're no different on the face of it to the outside.

The Internet. :bow:

[The Wengerbabies]

All forums are the same, you can cherry pick outrageous comments and laugh to your heart's content. Had plenty of laughs from Bluemoon, RAWK, Redcafe etc... and I'm sure we're no different on the face of it to the outside.

The Internet. :bow:
Pretty much.

[Cripps_orig]

Must've added it.

Anyway I googled it (Paul Dickov, if anyone's interested).

How long did you have to wait before they let you post?

Pretty much straight away.

They didnt like it when i had no idea who got sent off for them v us when we kicked their butts 3-0 at their shitehole. I believe i said something like "he was a shit player anyway so doubt he'd have made much a difference had he stayed on anyway"

[Sirjackofwilshere]

Citeh fans have become insufferable, arrogant twunts since the the oil money came gushing into their club. Can't stand them.

[The Wengerbabies]

Pretty much straight away.

They didnt like it when i had no idea who got sent off for them v us when we kicked their butts 3-0 at their shitehole. I believe i said something like "he was a shit player anyway so doubt he'd have made much a difference had he stayed on anyway"
Yeah just read your first post :lol:

Pretty fair assessment imo.

I can post replies, just not start a thread.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

what was his moniker? :popcorn:

[The Wengerbabies]

what was his moniker? :popcorn:
Ach

[Boss]

Flavs :pal:

Harsh but fair, tbh.

[Marc Overmars]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13704323.stm

:lol:

[Injury Time]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13704323.stm

:lol:
:haha:

[Master Splinter]

Manchester City are in no rush to meet striker Carlos Tevez's demand to leave Eastlands and are likely to ask in excess of £40m to consider selling.

BBC Sport understands Tevez's latest request to leave City has left chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak "sanguine" about developments.

The club believe they are in a position of strength over any potential Tevez transfer and are in no mood to plead with the striker to stay.

Tevez is contracted at City until 2014.

A spokesman said: "Carlos is a contracted player to Manchester City for another three years and we have had no offers for him."

Tevez, 27, asked City for a transfer in December and while it now seems inevitable he will eventually move on, City are relaxed about the latest twist and are determined he will only leave when the time and price is right for them.

City boss Roberto Mancini insisted recently that Tevez would stay after a proposed swap deal with Inter Milan for striker Samuel Eto'o fell through - but there is still no great shock inside Eastlands after Tevez made his desire to leave public once again.

The Argentina international wants to be reunited with his family - with Milan believed to be a favoured destination - but there is unlikely to be a swift resolution with City determined not to be railroaded into a deal by the player and his advisors.

City's stance on Tevez is hardened by the fact that he is on a contract reportedly worth in excess of £200,000-a-week, while there is no pressing need for cash to flow into Eastlands given the vast wealth of the club's Abu Dhabi owners.

The cost of any Tevez transfer will limit the market, with Inter Milan sporting director Marco Branca recently insisting the Serie A club would not make a move because they were unable to afford the wage packet he was receiving at City.

Branca told BBC Sport: "Tevez is a great player, a great character, but absolutely no. His salary means it is out of the question. The market is crazy at the moment and it is hard to compete."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14029622.stm

Thought this would make most sense in here.

Citeh won't do anything without Tevez. He's been 90% of their team.

Can't think of a better or more consistent striker anywhere. I can see him going to Real Madrid.

[Master Splinter]

Just found this too:




Manchester City are in no rush to grant Carlos Tevez his wish to leave (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14024006.stm) - and the statistics show just how crucial the striker has become to the Eastlands club.
The 27-year-old swapped the red side of Manchester for the blue in 2009, quickly becoming City's talisman, helping them to FA Cup success and Champions League qualification last season. He has scored 43 Premier League goals in his two seasons with the club - the highest total of any player in the top division.
Those goals from the Argentine have come at a rate of one every 125.6 minutes, a ratio that, when compared with players who have scored at least 15 goals during that time, is only bettered by Arsenal's Dutch international Robin van Persie (112.0).

Top Premier League scorers 2009/10 and 2010/11 [/URL]

Carlos Tevez (Manchester City) - 43
Darren Bent (Sunderland/Aston Villa) - 41
Didier Drogba (Chelsea) - 40
Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - 37
Frank Lampard (Chelsea) - 32
Dimitar Berbatov (Manchester United - 32
Robin van Persie (Arsenal) - 27


Tevez has also shown more than any other striker that one goal can lead to another, having scored an impressive 10 braces in his 66 league appearances for City, three more than his nearest rivals Darren Bent and Didier Drogba. Tevez has also set up 13 goals in that time, showing that there is more to his game than just finding the back of the net.
City also do better with Tevez in the team than they do without him. They have won 34 of the 66 matches he has played in - a ratio of 52% and a slight improvement on the 50% success rate City have enjoyed in the 10 games he has missed.
City have gained an average of 1.83 points per match with Tevez in the team (1.70 without him) and have scored 1.76 goals per game with him (1.70 without him). They have also conceded slightly fewer goals when Tevez plays.
Individually, none of Tevez's City colleagues can come close to his scoring record.
Last season he managed 23 goals in total - 20 of which were in the league - making him the only City player to reach double figures in the top flight. Next on the list was Yaya Toure with 11, seven coming in the Premier League, while Mario Balotelli was the only other player to reach double figures, six of his 10 goals coming in the league.
Fellow frontmen Edin Dzeko and Emmanuel Adebayor managed just 11 between them in their half-season spells with the club.
It is also worth comparing Tevez to former Manchester United team-mate Wayne Rooney, who is United's key figure, much as Tevez is City's. The impact they have had on their teams is noticeable.

Tevez v Rooney in the Premier League 2009-2011

[URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14030256.stm#skip_feature_02"] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14030256.stm#skip_feature_02)



Tevez
Rooney

66

Games

60



43

Goals

37



13

Assists

14



125.6

Minutes per goal

133.8



22.99%

Shots to goals

18.23%



82.26%

Pass completion

75.18%



1.83

Team points per game

2.20





In the same two-year period, Rooney has scored 37 goals and claimed 14 assists. With four braces to his name, his goals are spread out over more matches.
Tevez's goals have come from 187 chances - a conversion rate of 22.99% - while Rooney's goals have come from 203 shots at a success rate of 18.23%.
Tevez also has a superior passing rate, completing an impressive 82.26% of his 2,215 passes, compared to Rooney's completion rate of 75.18% from 2,466.
However, Rooney does have the upper hand when it comes to his value to the team. Without Rooney in the past two seasons, United have won 56% of their league fixtures and scored 1.75 goals per game. With him, they have upped their win ratio to 68% and their goals-scored ratio to 2.27 per game.

United, though, lost only one of those 16 games without Rooney, while City have been defeated in three of the 10 games when Tevez has been absent.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14030256.stm

Tevez :bow:

Also, Joker :pal:

[Özim]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13704323.stm

:lol:
Yeah that's funny, also funny is the fact he's being interviewed by a tranny :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Tevez, over the past 2 seasons has been as good as it gets. (That's for normal players btw, not freaks like Messi and Ronnie)

It's great news that he wants out. I'm sure they will spunk 30m on someone to fill the void but as we've seen with Dzeko it's not a sure fire thing for someone to hit the ground running in this league.

[GP]

They still have Adebayor, remember.

[Master Splinter]

They still have Adebayor, remember.

And Jo.

Jo :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3680579/Motor-is-ultimate-Manchester-City-tribute.html

:doh:

[dazthegooner]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3680579/Motor-is-ultimate-Manchester-City-tribute.html

:doh:

They have no class whasoever just like there Salford neighbours :)

[Darth Vela]

Well, at least it'll be easier to remove than a tattoo, they're slowly learning.

[Coney]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01340/manmain_1340333a.jpg

Should be safe enough in Manchester with that car, but they'd better not take it to Surrey or it would get torched.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Manchester City strike deal to rename Eastlands
E-mail this to a friendPrintable version City moved from Maine Road after the 2002 Commonwealth Games Manchester City have confirmed the City of Manchester Stadium will be renamed the Etihad Stadium after signing a 10-year deal with the airline.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14080388.stm

in the same boat as us.......gotta hope that the sponsors/owners stay the same from here to enternity.......... bit pricey to buy the rights back come bail out day

[GP]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14080388.stm

in the same boat as us.......gotta hope that the sponsors/owners stay the same from here to enternity.......... bit pricey to buy the rights back come bail out day

You realise that Etihad and Man City are both owned by the same people?

They are effectively sponsoring themselves.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

yes, I do that's why I used the / - in our case sponsors in theirs both

but an owner can bail out too so they would lose both and still be stuck with the name of the stadium - not a attractive proposal for any new owner! considering how much they would have to pay to be rid of the name

I men how many divorcees keep the name of their ex - especially one that works out with a potential 100 million pound bill on the table

[fakeyank]

yes, I do that's why I used the / - in our case sponsors in theirs both

but an owner can bail out too so they would lose both and still be stuck with the name of the stadium - not a attractive proposal for any new owner! considering how much they would have to pay to be rid of the name

I men how many divorcees keep the name of their ex - especially one that works out with a potential 100 million pound bill on the table

New owner? That club aint getting sold in the next 10 years!

[Boss]

Lols.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/News-Manchester-City-accused-of-renaming-Etihad-Stadium-United-after-Arabic-experts-divided-on-meaning-article762716.html

[Özim]

Corinthians have offered 39 million for Tevez apparently,wtf where do they get their money from?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14173261.stm

Seems like everyone has money except for us these days.

[fari]

Corinthians have offered 39 million for Tevez apparently,wtf where do they get their money from?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14173261.stm

Seems like everyone has money except for us these days.


brazil's economy is on the rise (it is one of the BRICs after all) so there is silly money flowing in that country. witness all the brazilians going back home to play. i also think that there are many investors etc backing the big clubs over there. fifa should be looking into all this money flowing into football but that is another story for another day and another thread :)

[Marc Overmars]

Brazil have the next World Cup of course and also the 2016 Olympics. A country definitely on the rise.

[Master Splinter]

Brazil have the next World Cup of course and also the 2016 Olympics. A country definitely on the rise.

Not forgetting prodigal son Denilson returning :good:.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00782/denilson128_782206c.jpg

[fari]

Not forgetting prodigal son Denilson returning :good:.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00782/denilson128_782206c.jpg

careful, there might be riots in the streets

[Özim]

Corinthians withdraw offer for Tevez saying there's not enough time to complete the deal before the Brazilian transfer deadline.

Good news, as the bid for Aguero now looks less likely and I'd rather they kept Tevez and didn't get Aguero who is younger and potentially one of the best players in the world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14213165.stm

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Couldn't Corinthians take him on loan if they can't give that first up front payment? Then again it could be that they did and Citeh wouldn't budge I suppose.

[Darth Vela]

Corinthians withdraw offer for Tevez saying there's not enough time to complete the deal before the Brazilian transfer deadline.

Good news, as the bid for Aguero now looks less likely and I'd rather they kept Tevez and didn't get Aguero who is younger and potentially one of the best players in the world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14213165.stm

Aguero doesn't have his work ethic, drive or strength though, they'd be trading a little more talent for losing a hell of a lot more in graft, that's not a good thing imo.

[Özim]

Aguero doesn't have his work ethic, drive or strength though, they'd be trading a little more talent for losing a hell of a lot more in graft, that's not a good thing imo.
Personally would prefer Aguero, much more Henry like in his play, explosive and can beat players and score goals.

Tevez is also older (27 as opposed to Aguero who is 23). Seems the Aguero deal is still on, really not good news for us.

[Darth Vela]

Aguero is all those things, explosive, quick and skillful but so is Tevez with the addition of being strong and hardworking, it doesn't matter how magical Aguero seems at times until he can do it consistently and fit into City's formation (he wouldn't work as a 1 in their 4-5-1) he simply isn't as effective as Tevez, I know you don't like to look at things like efficiency and just go with what you see but Tevez improves City more than Aguero would do.

A front-line of both of them could be fricking scary though, best hope Aguero gets a good look at what Manchester is like and decides against it.

[Master Splinter]

Tevez is probably the best striker in the world.

Him leaving City would be brilliant news, no matter who replaces him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Corinthians withdraw offer for Tevez saying there's not enough time to complete the deal before the Brazilian transfer deadline.

Good news, as the bid for Aguero now looks less likely and I'd rather they kept Tevez and didn't get Aguero who is younger and potentially one of the best players in the world.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14213165.stm

Tevez is much better tbh Aguero will struggle in this league big time and he knows is thats why he will go to madrid where he can look class

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aguero is very strong. And fairly awesome.

[Marc Overmars]

Graham Hunter was on SSN earlier, can't remember what he said exactly but apparently Aguero favours a move to the Prem.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Aguero is very strong. And fairly awesome.
Im sure he is but i still think he struggle in this leage


Graham Hunter was on SSN earlier, can't remember what he said exactly but apparently Aguero favours a move to the Prem.

Thats what they all say till Barca or Madrid turn their heads then it will be how he always wated to play for one of the big 2 in spain

even if its true makes no diffrence to us

[Marc Overmars]

Aguero is signing next week according to Sky Sources.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Good player but may take a while to fit in

Tevez had put in some time before his move to Citeh

still if Carlos leaves and Aguro comes......very much replacing quality with quality

how that train of thought doesn't seep down to us in the case of Denilson and Bendtner and replace them with shit

[Cripps_orig]

Why arent we after Aguero?

[Master Splinter]

Why arent we after Aguero?

Is this question another gateway to abusing Wenger?

I think yes.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

are you new around here?

[Cripps_orig]

Genuine question in fact

We need a striker. Aguero is available. We have the money.

Im not saying we'll get him but why arent we competing for his signing? Have we already admitted defeat to Man City cos they have so much money?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Genuine question in fact

We need a striker. Aguero is available. We have the money.

Im not saying we'll get him but why arent we competing for his signing? Have we already admitted defeat to Man City cos they have so much money?

oh yeah we bid £40 mill then city bid £50 mill do you think we will top them, we have no chance while the likes of madrid and barca and city want him.

tbh do we really need him and he ain't a striker he is an attacking midfilder.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Aguero is signing next week according to Sky Sources.

Interesting, don't think he will go there though

[Cripps_orig]

So we should never go for quality players ever again then?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think it's simply the case that whilst we might have that amount of money available, it's probably not going to be for one player. It could be that we already know he wants to go to Citeh (no way of knowing that though).

[Master Splinter]

Adebayor dealt further City humiliation

Want-away striker Emmanuel Adebayor was further humiliated at Eastlands after being forced to train with Manchester City's youth team.

According to reports in the Daily Mail, the ex-Arsenal forward, who has been left out of the Citizen's tour in North America, had to training with the club's U-18 side at Carrington on Thursday.

He is hoping for a permanent move to Real Madrid after having spent the second half of last season on loan with the La Liga giants.

However, manager Jose Mourinho has not made any significant moves to sign the player, and, in a transfer that could possibly rock North London, Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp has revealed his interest in snapping up the Togo striker on a loan deal.

http://www.espnstar.com/servlet/file/558226_33_preview.jpg?ITEM_ENT_ID=558226&ITEM_VERSION=1&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=10&FILE_SERVICE_CONF_ID=33


http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item645242/Adebayor-dealt-further-City-humiliation/

:haha:

Adebayor :pal:

[Darth Vela]

Genuine question in fact

We need a striker. Aguero is available. We have the money.

Im not saying we'll get him but why arent we competing for his signing? Have we already admitted defeat to Man City cos they have so much money?

If all it takes is sending a few e-mails inquiring about it and maybe a tentative bid, sure I reckon we should give it a bash, you don't know until you ask but if it involved extensive negotiating then I'd rather we spend the time getting Samba or some other giant to stand in our box and repel aerial assaults rather than a bit of a pie in the sky signing.

Edited for a quick: Adebayor :pal:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So we should never go for quality players ever again then?

Obvioulsly we should but only if we get their 1s/ Do you think he is going to city for anything other then a fat pay cheque. He wants wages we can't afford

[Young Guns 11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9VwVeCgcRs&feature=player_embedded

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

:lol:

He just doesn't give a fuck about anything.

[Boss]

Legend tbh, if that went in you'd get a lot of jizz.

That said, thank fuck we were never in with any kind of chance at all of signing him. :lol:

[KESSLER]

That was the most retarded shit i have ever seen :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Aguero having a medical at City ahead of a 40m move.

:banghead:

[Özim]

Yeah really bad news, a top quality player....so gutted to see him going to another English club.

[Darth Vela]

Oh. Dear.

A frontline with Tevez always performing and an interchangable partner of Balotelli/Dzeko/Aguero performing when they feel like it could be rather effective.

Hopefully Tevez finally buggers off.

[Cripps_orig]

Jenkinson will deal with him :(

We're fucked

[Darth Vela]

Given he'd play centrally, it'd be Vermaelens job.

I'm not worried about Aguero against us as he's under 6ft so we'll have him under control but he'll rip the lower teams apart imo.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah really bad news, a top quality player....so gutted to see him going to another English club.

Meh Rather he wen't City Rather then Chelsea Can't see him doing anything good there tbh, without tevez they will be useless if he leave but if he stays they could be a force.

Chelsea fans must be really pissed lol more then you. Im suprised UTD never went in for him tbh

[Marc Overmars]

It's wishful thinking to suggest Aguero might flop.

[Cripps_orig]

Never really rated Aguero tbh

Still, City needed someone and went out and got him.

Whereas we need someone, we are waiting for him to be born and then get him 16 years later.

In short, we're fucked

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's wishful thinking to suggest Aguero might flop.

Never said he sould, i said id Rather he was at city, Because they won't be as stong as UTD or the chavs. Had this guy gone to oen of those too teams id be worried. he may do well only time will tell but i don't think he will tear up this league as people think tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Never really rated Aguero tbhStill, City needed someone and went out and got him.

Whereas we need someone, we are waiting for him to be born and then get him 16 years later.

In short, we're fucked

You Weren't saying that last week lol going on about how we should have goen in for him etc but i do agree with your posts.

[Cripps_orig]

You Weren't saying that last week lol going on about how we should have goen in for him etc but i do agree with your posts.

It was more the "why arent we going after whos available?" rather than "Why arent we going after Aguero?"

[Marc Overmars]

I think he's pretty good. Consistently manages to score 20+ for a team that doesn't set the world alight. Better record than Torres in Spain I think as well.

Not saying he's going to reach Ronaldo and Henry esque stardom, but City have got themselves a quality player none the less.

[Cripps_orig]

I think he's pretty good. Consistently manages to score 20+ for a team that doesn't set the world alight. Better record than Torres in Spain I think as well.

Harsh on Torres tbh. Back when he was at Atletico, they were arguably the Blackburn/Bolton/Stoke etc of Spain. Rarely attacked and only played one up front so Torres only ever got 10-15 a season which for a team like that is pretty good.

Its only since he left and they used the money they got for him to get better offensive players and expand their play.

As for Aguero, yeah he scores goals but my anti Argentine biasedness says hes overated so he must be. Saying that, prefer him over the "best player in the world" over at Cuntlona

[Özim]

Meh Rather he wen't City Rather then Chelsea Can't see him doing anything good there tbh, without tevez they will be useless if he leave but if he stays they could be a force.

Chelsea fans must be really pissed lol more then you. Im suprised UTD never went in for him tbh
Why would Chelsea be gutted they spent 50 million on Torres in January and have Drogba and Anelka as well, clearly that's not a priority for them.

[Özim]

Never said he sould, i said id Rather he was at city, Because they won't be as stong as UTD or the chavs. Had this guy gone to oen of those too teams id be worried. he may do well only time will tell but i don't think he will tear up this league as people think tbh.
Why would you be worried if he'd ended up at Chelsea or Man U, they're already stronger than us and are a banker to end up above us.

Man City strengthening means they're more likely to be above us as well.

Don't understand your point of view at all here, because we won't be competing with the two teams you mentioned.....even after being pretty average all season last season they both still ended up above us.

I'd rather he'd have stayed in Spain.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Why would Chelsea be gutted they spent 50 million on Torres in January and have Drogba and Anelka as well, clearly that's not a priority for them.

Well they were after him tbh and alot of my chav mate friends are gutted they never got him.


Why would you be worried if he'd ended up at Chelsea or Man U, they're already stronger than us and are a banker to end up above us.

Man City strengthening means they're more likely to be above us as well.

Don't understand your point of view at all here, because we won't be competing with the two teams you mentioned.....even after being pretty average all season last season they both still ended up above us.

I'd rather he'd have stayed in Spain.

Did i say that Chelsea or UTD were not stonger then us. and i don't believe he will make City stonger 1 bit if tevez goes tbh. though he is a good replacement.

but good luck to the lad not sad about him going there tbh. hope he gets the 200K a week he wants there nad has a good career there tbh.

end of the day i could not see anyone but the Mancs winning the league tbh and him going to city does nothingto change that. and its not as if they re going to go win the CL now is it.

Not worried about City at all tbh.

[Master Splinter]

Not worried about City at all tbh.

:gp:

As long as Tevez goes.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Argentine star Sergio Aguero has revealed his delight at joining Manchester City from Atletico Madrid.

The Argentine starlet put the finishing touches to his move on Wednesday, after he arrived in England to undergo his medical.

The 23-year-old arrived at the Ettihad Stadium later in the day and soon after departing the stadium he revealed that his transfer had been completed.

"Now I am a City player," Aguero said on his Twitter feed.

"Happy to be at this club and in this city, thank you to everyone for the welcome and the reception."Manchester City are yet to confirm the near £35million deal has been finalised.

.

And i bet that 200K a week is helping to lol. He is probs expecting to see Rooney and co when he walks into training lol

[Toronto Gooner]

And now Man City will have to put up with the circus that is Diego Maradona.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

And now Man City will have to put up with the circus that is Diego Maradona.

Yep, especially when he tells the lad to move to real in a year LMAO

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mancini thinks Citeh need more players. 35 clearly isn't enough.

[Marc Overmars]

I guess he wants to ship out the deadwood he didn't sign like Bellamy and Adebayor.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They can only do that on loan deals though, realistically.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I guess he wants to ship out the deadwood he didn't sign like Bellamy and Adebayor.

Well he is going to have a harder job then Wenger, i mean who is want to leave all those big wages behind to get less.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Diego Forlan believes former Atletico Madrid team-mate Sergio Aguero should have joined Chelsea rather than Manchester City.

Argentina ace Aguero left the Vicente Calderon for City earlier this week in a £38million deal after being linked with a string of Europe's leading clubs.

Forlan wishes the 23-year-old well but believes he would have been better off holding out for a move to Andre Villas Boas' Blues instead.

"It was no real surprise to see him leave, but I thought it would have been to a different club," the former Manchester United forward told The People.


"Chelsea's game and squad are more suited to his style.

"And of course I am a Manchester United fan, so his decision to move to City is also painful for me."

Forlan also offers a note of caution for Aguero, having struggled to make an impact himself at United before hitting form in Spain with Villarreal and then Atletico.

Killer
The Uruguay ace added: "I know City are now one of the big clubs in England, so I wish Sergio luck.

"But I know from my own time in England that the Premier League is not like La Liga.

"The key for him will be how he adapts to the style of the game and also the country.

"He can be a success because he is a star... he can be a king at any club.

"The best asset of Aguero is the number of goals he scores, and when he scores them. He is a killer and could also destroy many defenders with his dribbles.

"Personally, it is bad news to me because I will now miss a big companion in attack at Atletico.

"He is not the tallest, but that is not a problem, and neither is the hardness of the English defenders.

"I do not know if (Carlos) Tevez will stay at City, but a Tevez-Aguero pairing could be sensational for City. For La Liga, this is all bad news, but for the Premier League, it's a success to have such a player."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_7074034,00.html


:bow: Folan

[Xhaka Can’t]

Tottenham have just bid for Carlos Tevez, they've offered 200 plasma TV's, 6 carpet rolls and 72 pairs of Reebok classics.

[Coney]

:lol:

[milla]

Tottenham have just bid for Carlos Tevez, they've offered 200 plasma TV's, 6 carpet rolls and 72 pairs of Reebok classics.

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Gary Cook :doh:

That is all

[Marc Overmars]

An email was sent from his iPad taking the piss out of Nedum Onuoha's mum who is suffering from cancer.

Wouldn't surprise me if that odious cunt did send it anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

On the other hand this woman is claiming reading the email was the worst thing that has happened in her life, even worse than being diagnosed. So that's a bunch of bullshit right there. She also wants to know what the authorities are going to do about it. What are they supposed to do? Do they legislate on insensitive emails now? This woman and her new found friends at the Sun are just as big a part of the problem. Sounds like an attempt at grabbing some cash to make the whole thing go away.

[Xhaka Can’t]

http://i56.tinypic.com/2r4oa45.jpg

[Maestro]

http://i56.tinypic.com/2r4oa45.jpg

For this alone, I love Mario ...will never forget the image. Pretty convinced he could have taken all of them on, and decked 'em.

[Marc Overmars]

Aye, he's a mad bastard and I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of him.

[Master Splinter]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14828585

:haha:

Quality nutter tbh.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

there was once a time I thought we should have signed this guy. . . .but not sure now, not because he is shit but the guy would send Wenger to either an early grave or to the loony bin

[isv]

:wave::wave: Garry, bet u dont think its funny now..... G

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Garry Cook. :lol:

Citeh just became a lot less destestable.

[Master Splinter]

Citeh just became a lot less destestable.

Until Max Clifford replaces him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fair point. I'll make the most of it. I'll be nice to Barry.

[Maestro]

there was once a time I thought we should have signed this guy. . . .but not sure now, not because he is shit but the guy would send Wenger to either an early grave or to the loony bin

...and for that reason surely we should sign

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just saw Brian Marwood's interview on SSN, you'd think Garry Cook was dead the way he was talking.

And Mancini was saying they're lacking at the moment because they don't have enough players (for whatever reason). :violin:

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah I heard that. :lol:

Worst excuse ever.

[Master Splinter]

Mancini's a spoilt little bitch, isn't he?

Clubs like Chelsea and City never have the right to complain.

It's like Tony Stark complaining his nine billion-dollar Iron Man suit was dented before going on Robot Wars to compete against a 2ft Transformers action figure.

[Cripps_orig]

Tevez has been suspended by Man City

[Niall_Quinn]

Tevez has been suspended by Man City

Wow, that'll learn him. What needs to happen is for the authorities to suspend him from all football for a year. Then we'd see who wants to refuse to play.

[Injury Time]

Tevez has been suspended by Man City
Sounds painful but not like they can mess up his face any more...can they :unsure:

[Marc Overmars]

I'm sure Tevez is gutted.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He has been suspended for two weeks.

It's an international break after this weekend. :doh:

[Syn]

Tevez is such an idiot. He wants to be the big fish (don't get me wrong - he certainly has the gills for it) but keeps joining teams that out grow him.

He should join a club in decline who'll always start him. :whistle:

[Coney]

Tevez is such an idiot. He wants to be the big fish.

http://messingaboutinboats.typepad.com/sailing/images/2008/01/07/ugly_fish.jpghttp://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Sep/Week4/16078568.jpg

[Syn]

Uncanny

[IBK]

QA response to Phil Mcnulty's blog on the BBC that I found interesting...


9.At 08:18 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre wrote:
i wondered when the main man would pen his piece on last nights events concerning both clubs in manchester.

Interestingly, no waxing lyrical about man u who in the easiest group blew the result, and for weeks we have been hearing they are ready to take on Barca ( laughs )

as for Tevez, i am actually behind the guy 100% !

it was not long ago Mr McNulty and many on bios blogs were slaughtering Wenger and Arsenal for trying to keep a player at the club who's " heart " was clearly not in it.
Negotiations went on and on and on and the Media decided they would all take the moral high ground by saying Arsenal should sell him.

tevez makes its VERY!! clear he wants to MOVE! but the powers that be at City decided, because they are not strapped for cash, to keep the player AGAINST HIS WILL.

Arsene ? if your reading this, get the cheque book out and bring Tevez to LONDON!



Seriously - for me its only a question of degree really. In essence is there so much of a difference between Fabregas and Tevez? Only difference is that we bent over backwards to give him what he wanted while Money are rich enough to refuse to do so, even though the transfer money is utterly unimportant to them.

Besides - wasn't Tevez warming up 1st half? Funny how everyone has taken Mancini's word as gospel and not considered whether there might have been some kind of cock up? Because if it went to the wire - do you really think Tevez would have been seen by the whole world as refusing to come on the pitch once the substitute sign had been shown.

Just sayin' is all.

Anyways - any bad karma that Money get is fine by me...Horrible club who deserve everything they get. IMO.

[Coney]

It also might illustrate where Moronio succeeded. (Still don't like him,btw). He seemed able to handle the prima donnas probably because he is equally up his own arse. If you buy all the expensive top players so that your squad has players warming the bench a lot when in a 'normal' team they would be first choice, then you are going to have a lot of grumbling if you can't handle them right. That is a different skill from managing a 'normal' side. I think that is going to haunt Citeh for a while - OK Tevez might have gone over the top but I suspect there is other grumbling in the camp. Maybe also at chavs. We can but hope.

[Ollie the Optimist]

basically tevez is on a two week paid holiday. he doesnt have to go to work yet still gets half a million for it. yeah he going to be so upset :lol:

[Master Splinter]

I'd believe Tevez over Mancini.

Tevez always puts in 100% effot when he plays. Citeh fans seem to have forgotten he's the one who's got them where they are. I don't think he's got the brains to be deceptive. And that's why he always puts in 100%.

Mancini appears to believe he's one of the greats already; just like their players, staff, fanbase and their agenda-pushing mates in the media. Mancini's poor record in the CL could put an early end to his bluster.

Funnily enough, the people who've pumped money into Citeh seem more likeable and respectable than the people whose arrogance and entitlement that money has fuelled.

[Cripps_orig]

2 weeks are up

Tevez is due back for training tomorrow and he will face disciplinary action

SSN breaking news

Getting pretty boring this

[Marc Overmars]

City drop the charges of him refusing to come on however they've now charged him with refusing to warm up. :blink:

Mancini. :haha:

Tevez. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mancini. :wave:

[IBK]

The more I think about this, the more it looks to me like Mancini looking for a scapegoat having been humbled by Bayern. Thouroughly classles to let whatever is going on between manager and player out into the public domain like this. Funny how unheard of riches makes clubs behave like cunts.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

The more I think about this, the more it looks to me like Mancini looking for a scapegoat having been humbled by Bayern. Thouroughly classles to let whatever is going on between manager and player out into the public domain like this. Funny how unheard of riches makes clubs behave like cunts.

Whereas in our case we didnt need the riches as an excuse. . . .(solely directed at the boart btw)

[Ollie the Optimist]

the mad bastard mario set off fireworks in his house last night at 1am and had to have fire engines called as he had caused a large fire. :haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

days after burning his house down after setting fireworks off in the bathroom, mario b is now the face of this years fireworks safety campaign. :haha:

[Master Splinter]

Tevez to sue Mancini now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15455362.stm

Mancini :haha:.

[IBK]

Tevez to sue Mancini now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15455362.stm

Mancini :haha:.

I reckon he has a half decent case...So do you reckon he'll be getting many starts this season?

[Master Splinter]

I reckon he has a half decent case...So do you reckon he'll be getting many starts this season?

Maybe when Mancini's sacked?

[Cripps_orig]

Apparently Tevez is going to sue Souness :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Tevez doesn't have any character, so he's onto a loser here.

[Marc Overmars]

Tevez. :bow:

Mad bastard.

[Niall_Quinn]

Manchester City and Chelsea are locking horns in the battle to sign one of Europe's top young talents Christian Eriksen.
Chelsea have fired an opening salvo, testing Ajax's resolve to hang on to the 19-year-old midfielder with a £22million offer, but City are ready to step in with a bid of about £30m.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2058094/Manchester-City-Chelsea-chase-Ajax-30m-rated-midfielder-Christian-Eriksen.html

This is why clubs like Chelsea and City are little more than a joke, albeit an unfunny one. They want ALL the best players, even though there's no way they can play them all. Some say they can't buy ALL the best players, there will always be enough to go around. But you have to admit, between them these clubs are sure making a concerted effort to buy everything of value that moves. Chelsea maybe to a lesser degree, but City is just a ridiculous situation now. Add the ludicrous Barcelona and Madrid into the mix (two sides who literally rob their fellow competitors) along with bogus cash stuffed non-entities like PSG and that Russian side who are so obscure and have such little history that nobody can remember their name from one game to the next and you can see where this is heading.

Injuries and suspensions mean nothing to City. The rules allow them to buy who they want so that's the reality, but should they also be allowed to spend so much they end up subverting the rules themselves? What does a suspension to a key player, or two players or even ten players mean to them? Nothing. Mancini makes no secret of wanting to build THREE world class sides with money no object. They have already found ways to make a mockery of the fair play rules (which in themselves are a mockery begging to be mocked).

If this is how it is to be then why do we not assign them all the trophies at the start of the season and grant them the year off? That way the unfair advantages they have brazenly purchased wouldn't have such a bearing on the rest of the clubs.

I hope the news about Jack wanting to stay at Arsenal for his career turns out to be true. I hope he goes on to be the best player the world has ever seen. I hope there comes a time when we can turn around to City and tell them to keep their stolen money. This will be their ultimate defeat. Showing them that for all their money there are some people and some things that cannot be bought. Hopefully the shock will kill them.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

This is why clubs like Chelsea and City are little more than a joke, albeit an unfunny one. They want ALL the best players, even though there's no way they can play them all. Some say they can't buy ALL the best players, there will always be enough to go around. But you have to admit, between them these clubs are sure making a concerted effort to buy everything of value that moves. Chelsea maybe to a lesser degree, but City is just a ridiculous situation now. Add the ludicrous Barcelona and Madrid into the mix (two sides who literally rob their fellow competitors) along with bogus cash stuffed non-entities like PSG and that Russian side who are so obscure and have such little history that nobody can remember their name from one game to the next and you can see where this is heading.

Injuries and suspensions mean nothing to City. The rules allow them to buy who they want so that's the reality, but should they also be allowed to spend so much they end up subverting the rules themselves? What does a suspension to a key player, or two players or even ten players mean to them? Nothing. Mancini makes no secret of wanting to build THREE world class sides with money no object. They have already found ways to make a mockery of the fair play rules (which in themselves are a mockery begging to be mocked).

If this is how it is to be then why do we not assign them all the trophies at the start of the season and grant them the year off? That way the unfair advantages they have brazenly purchased wouldn't have such a bearing on the rest of the clubs.

I hope the news about Jack wanting to stay at Arsenal for his career turns out to be true. I hope he goes on to be the best player the world has ever seen. I hope there comes a time when we can turn around to City and tell them to keep their stolen money. This will be their ultimate defeat. Showing them that for all their money there are some people and some things that cannot be bought. Hopefully the shock will kill them.

The can want them don't mean players are silly to go to those clubs.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3920440/Manchester-City-news-Yaya-Toure-wants-City-to-be-the-Invincibles-Mk-II.html

It's good that cunt face is already planning an unbeaten season only 11 games in. They are already a bunch of arrogant twats, made all the worse by the fact they have nothing worthy of crowing about beyond the fact they have spent ten times more than anyone else. For the amount that have spent, if they don't win the majority of their games it will be one of the biggest failures in football history. Does this knob end think anyone would take it seriously if his gang of cocksuckers bought an unbeaten season? Maybe the manc gypos in the stands would be fooled, but nobody else. Even so, it's better they are bigging themselves up rather than being humble, it will make it sweeter when they eventually do lose. Chelsea were going unbeaten too, so were Utd. Didn't happen. Won't happen this time either.

[Marc Overmars]

If they bought their way to an unbeaten season, I'd stop watching this shite ass sport.

[Cripps_orig]

More worried about Newcastle doing it.

[Coney]

More worried about Newcastle doing it.

If it were possible it would be worrying. However, despite their start, there is no chance of that happening.

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure has called for his team to match the Arsenal Invincible's unbeaten season of 2003/2004. "It will be very difficult, but we hope we'll continue unbeaten," said Toure this week. The Gunners are the only top flight club to have gone a 38-game season unbeaten, but City are now 11 games without loss so far this campaign, with a five point lead at the top of the table from 10 wins and one draw.



After Toure's comment, talkSPORT decided to compare the two sides and work out which team, man-for-man, is better - the Arsenal Invincibles or Man City's team of all talents?


GOALKEEPER

JENS LEHMANN V Joe Hart
The German goalkeeper would struggle to get in a team ahead of England international Hart. Known for his moments of madness, Lehmann played both hero and villain at Arsenal, but during the 2003/2004 Invincibles season he kept 15 clean sheets; Hart has four already this season in 11 games and last year the 23-year-old keeper managed an impressive 18 clean sheets all season, claiming the Golden Gloves award.



Arsenal 0-1 Man City - Hart is younger, more reliable and has kept more clean sheets than the German stopper.



RIGHT-BACK

LAUREN V Micah Richards
Arsenal's reliable right-back was a stalwart in the Invincibles defence, playing 32 league games and creating two goals to boot. A versatile player, Lauren could fill in at left-back or in midfield if necessary. Micah Richards has been receiving plaudits for his strength going forward and has already created four goals this season - more than double that of any other defender in the Premier League. With a tackle success rate of 83 per cent, the 23-year-old puts Lauren in the shade (even if Fabio Capello might not agree).



Arsenal 0-2 Man City - Richards has been impressive this season and was inspirational in City's 6-1 demolition of rivals United.


CENTRE-BACKS

SOL CAMPBELL V Joleon Lescott
Former England centre-back Campbell was resolute at the back for Arsenal, a player who made up for his lack of pace and skill on the ball, with impeccable timing, leadership and strength. Lescott battles for his place in the City back four with Stefan Savic and former Gunner Kolo Toure, and though he has looked confident and safe this season, he lacks the same commanding presence that Campbell provided for the Gunners.



Arsenal 1-2 Man City - Arsenal pull one back, at the peak of his career Campbell would have been good enough for any team in the world.



KOLO TOURE V Vincent Kompany
Now struggling at City, Toure was imposing for the Gunners during the unbeaten season, playing 36 games and scoring once. The Ivorian was decent going forward - he excited Arsenal fans with his runs forward, long-range shots and the occasional free-kick. On top of that his defending was top-notch, which is why City paid £16million for him in 2009. His now team-mate, Belgian defender Kompany has proved himself to be one of the best in Europe this season. The City captain not only holds the team together, but his decisive tackling and skill on the ball adds a further dimension to the back-line. Missing because of a ban at the weekend, City conceded two goals against QPR and it could have been more.


Arsenal 1-3 Man City - A close one, but Kompany's reliability and leadership skills just edge him ahead of Toure.


LEFT-BACK

Ashley Cole V GAEL CLICHY
Both former Arsenal players have been lauded for their skills on the left-side, but Gael Clichy is no match for Cole. Clichy was the last player from the Invincibles squad to leave Arsenal when he moved to Manchester City last summer and has since been quietly ticking along, though faces competition from Kolorov for his position in the first team. Ashley Cole has been Chelsea and England's fail-safe left back for years, having earned his respect with the Gunners, he was fantastic down the left all season in 03/04.



Arsenal 2-3 Man City - Cole has the been the most reliable left-back in England for a decade now, whilst Clichy has yet to truly emerge from his former team-mate's shadow.


RIGHT- MIDFIELD

FREDDIE LJUNGBERG V David Silva
As interesting as his haircuts, pants modeling and brilliant FA Cup final goals were, all-action Swedish midfielder Ljungberg is no match for silky Spanish playmaker Silva. The Man City midfielder has already beaten Ljungberg's four goals of 2003/04 by hitting six this season and has equalled his tally of seven assists. After 18 months in England, Silva has settled in nicely and is the top contender for Premier League player of the season right now.



Arsenal 2-4 Man City - Silva's vision, goals and assist rate make him the clear winner.



CENTRE- MIDFIELD
PATRICK VIEIRA V Gareth Barry
Barry's hardworking ethos and measured distribution can't rival the talents of Patrick Vieira. The Frenchman, who is now working at the Etihad Stadium, captained the Arsenal side through the unbeaten season, scoring three and chipping in with four assists in 29 games after suffering from a hamstring problem early in the season. An Arsenal legend, the inspirational midfielder's brilliant ability to read the game, terrific spreading of the play, fearsome aggression and tough tackling were invaluable to the Gunners. Barry would need to step up several levels to even be compared with one of the Premier League's finest players.



Arsenal 3-4 Man City -The Arsenal captain beats England midfielder Barry hands-down.



GILBERTO SILVA V YAYA TOURE
Kolo's younger brother has come on leaps and bounds since leaving Barcelona in 2010, where he was struggling to get a place in the team as a primarily defensive midfielder. The imposing Toure scored seven in the league last season and was influential in City's FA Cup win and has carried that great form into this season. Gilberto was always one of the more underrated players in the Invincibles side and his departure in 2008 left a noticeable dent in the Gunners midfield, but his four goals and one assist in 2003/04 are no competition for Toure's all-round displays in the Premier League, where he bosses the centre of the park and still manages to score a few screamers.



Arsenal 3-5 Man City - Gilberto's talents might have gone under the radar, but Toure's certainly do not and the Ivorian would be picked ahead of the Brazilian.



LEFT-MIDFIELD

ROBERT PIRES V James Milner
Milner might have produced some cracking performances of late, but there's no competition between the England player and Robert Pires. The French midfielder was pure class in 2003/04, scoring 14 goals and creating ten in 33 matches, whilst also combining beautifully with Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp in a dynamic attacking line-up.



Arsenal 4-5 Man City - Pires wins this round, for the amazing record of scoring or creating 24 goals in 33 games.



FORWARDS

THIERRY HENRY V Edin Dzeko
Henry was special, but Dzeko's stats this season are actually a match for the great French striker at this stage of the season. With the Bosnian hitting 10 goals in nine games, Dzeko is well on track to equal Henry's 30 goals and nine assists in 37 appearances in 2003/04, but let's not kid ourselves he's fit to lace the great Frenchman's boots.



Arsenal 5-5 Man City - Dzeko's made an impact so far this season, but Henry was virtually unplayable in 2003/04.


DENNIS BERGKAMP V SERGIO AGUERO
Ignoring the fact they are different types of players, this head-to-head is one of the toughest to call. The Iceman is one of the greatest players to grace English football, yet Argentine Aguero has hit the ground running in spectacular style this season. While few could match Bergkamp for skill and vision, Aguero has nine goals already in his first season in the Premier League, along with three assists. Bergkamp, by contrast, only scored four all season, but did create nine in 21 games.


Arsenal 5-6 Man CIty - Painful to do it, but we're pinning this one on stats rather than skills and Aguero's don't lie.



SUBSTITUTES
JOSE ANTONIO REYES, CESC FABREGAS, KANU, SYLVAIN WILTORD, MARTIN KEOWN, GAEL CLICHY, RAY PARLOUR.
V
Samir Nasri, Mario Balotelli, Pablo Zabaleta, Adam Johnson, ALEKSANDAR KOLOROV, CARLOS TEVEZ, Nigel De Jong.

The Arsenal bench looks pretty tasty at first glance, but on closer inspection you will see the flaws; Cesc Fabregas was only a nipper and didn't make a Premier League appearance all season, Reyes was inconsistent after joining in the January transfer window, whilst Parlour and Keown played their role, they were both past their prime. The City bench is a cup-winning squad in itself; Nasri, Johnson and Balotelli would make it into any top side and then there's Carlos Tevez, the mercurial striker who doesn't even make the squad these days!



Arsenal 5-7 Man City - The Blues squad depth is something every team in the world would be jealous of, with a second string perfectly capable of winning trophies in their own right.



RESULT
When you spend hundreds of millions, you get a team as strong as Manchester City's. After 11 games of the 2003/04 season, Arsenal had drawn two more games than City have at their corresponding stage, scored 25 goals to City's whopping 39, while both teams let in ten apiece. Man-for-man, City are stronger than the Arsenal Invincibles, but whether they have the same quality and spirit as a team is open to debate. The Gunners proved their class as a collective and have the unbeaten season as a testament to their ability, but will City be able to emulate Highbury's finest? We shall see!


http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/2011-11-08/proof-manchester-citys-team-better-arsenals-unbeaten-invincibles

:haha:

[Master Splinter]

That is just plain embarrassing.

Hart better than Jens? :haha:

Aguero better than Bergkamp? :haha:

The positional comparisons are obviously absurd too.

Most of City's squad aren't even half-season wonders yet, but talkSPORT apparently think they're already better than seasoned world-class performers and multiple world-beaters.

It can be seen as a WUM attempt (which is 99% of their material), but I'm pretty sure the brain-dead morons at that pisshole believe this to be true.

[Cripps_orig]

The keeper and Bergkamp v Aguero one made me laugh as well.

And they should have compared Vieira to Yaya and Gilberto to Barry as thats a direct comparison but Arsenal would win both easily so wouldnt be controversial enough

[Marc Overmars]

Aye, bullshit article.

Go and achieve something first before talking about the Invincibles.

Besides, no matter what City do, they will never command the respect we did because they're frauds.

[Xhaka Can’t]

The writer of that article v anyone else.

0-11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 1111111111111111111111116

[GP]

Funny article. I had it at 11-0 to the Arsenal

[Xhaka Can’t]

Funny article. I had it at 11-0 to the Arsenal

Writer of that article v GP

0-1

[Master Splinter]

Writer of that article v GP

0-1

Boring boring GP.

[Marc Overmars]

Disgusting how GP has been treated on here recently.

[Niall_Quinn]

Whoever wrote that article is a cunt.

[Syn]

Disgusting how cunts have been treated on here recently.

[Niall_Quinn]

Disgusting how cunts have been treated on here recently.

The only flaw in your logic being GP did not write the article.

[Marc Overmars]

Tevez has fucked off to Argentina without permission. :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

:lol:

[GP]

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Adebayor-Tevez-Barry.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tevez has fucked off to Argentina without permission. :lol:

Tevez. :bow:

Doing his best to bring Citeh down from the inside.

[Master Splinter]

Tevez. :bow:

Doing his best to bring Citeh down from the inside.

It's not really working though.......

We need Balotelli to go full-on mental again tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

LOL - Can you help?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3931077/Carlos-Tevez-AWOL-Help-find-missing-Manchester-City-star.html

[Xhaka Can’t]

Its you that needs help if you're reduced to reading that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Its you that needs help if you're reduced to reading that.

You wouldn't know top quality journalism if it smacked you in the face. This is like caviare cast in front of swine. I'm guessing your tantrum is because you couldn't find Wally?

[Master Splinter]

NQ :rose:.

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ :rose:.

The ignoramus is dissing the sun.

[Letters]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15795584


Manchester City has reported an annual loss of £194.9m for 2010-11, the biggest in English football history.

But the loss does not include the club's huge sponsorship deal with Etihad Airlines, worth a reported £35m a year, or revenues from this season's Champions League campaign.

Uefa's Financial Fair Play rules, which come into force in 2013-14, say clubs must break even over three years.

But the latest figures fall outside the accounting window for that.

In brief, they can do what the hell they like :rolleyes:

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea have been doing it for years.

:shrug:

It would be nice if genuine issues like this were focused on rather than fake outrage at poppy-haters and stupid old men.

[Letters]

Chelsea have been doing it for years.

Aye, true.

And before them Leeds did...but they forgot to get the billionaire sugar daddy in first and damn near went bust.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15795584



In brief, they can do what the hell they like :rolleyes:

Who could have known it would be like this?

[Flavs]

Aye, true.

And before them Leeds did...but they forgot to get the billionaire sugar daddy in first and damn near went bust.

That's not what happened at Leeds though.

[Letters]

That's not what happened at Leeds though.

Well it sort of is. They spent big assuming they'd get into the CL and the money would pay for it. But they didn't qualify.
So the next season they went double or quits, spent beyond their means again hoping the CL money would pay for it and they failed to qualify again.

[Flavs]

Well it sort of is. They spent big assuming they'd get into the CL and the money would pay for it. But they didn't qualify.
So the next season they went double or quits, spent beyond their means again hoping the CL money would pay for it and they failed to qualify again.

but everyone at Citeh knows what they are doing and how they are doing it at Leeds Risdale was telling everyone they were quids in and had X amount of money that could be spent when in fact none of it was true.

[Ollie the Optimist]

its beyond a joke that a football club can be paying players 20million more then they turnover. how is something not being done to them?

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently they're on course to break even in time for FFP as well, due to the bogus stadium sponsorship and expected CL income.

Football. :haha:

Awful sport.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They'll probably catch up with the stadium sponsorship the way they are going. It won't be long before Mansour makes it to £1 billion spent. :wacko:

[Marc Overmars]

Ivan Gazidis and Christian Purslow will be on SSN this Monday to discuss the financial state of the game.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gazidis will just say we're committed to a self-sustaining model.

[Marc Overmars]

Pretty much.

[LDG]

City :lol:

Awful club.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Money Shitty.

[Joker]

Nothing City are doing is against the rules. Some people will claim they are being "greedy" and money oriented, but that applies to all football clubs. Football has become a business, and rather than focus on individual clubs we should blame the system itself.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Nothing City are doing is against the rules. Some people will claim they are being "greedy" and money oriented, but that applies to all football clubs. Football has become a business, and rather than focus on individual clubs we should blame the system itself.

I can and will hate the cunts for it and anyone who takes any satisfaction from their 'success' is a fucking mong.

[GP]

I can and will hate the cunts for it and anyone who takes any satisfaction from their 'success' is a fucking mong.

Good post.

[Letters]

Nothing City are doing is against the rules. Some people will claim they are being "greedy" and money oriented, but that applies to all football clubs. Football has become a business, and rather than focus on individual clubs we should blame the system itself.

Yes, the system is wrong. But so are the clubs exploiting it. Any success they achieve is meaningless and empty and if Arsenal go down that route then I'd take no pleasure in any of our 'achievements' which resulted from it. Some of the glory hunters on here would, no doubt, but I'm sure at some level I'm sure they'd know how it was achieved.

[Marc Overmars]

Nothing City are doing is against the rules. Some people will claim they are being "greedy" and money oriented, but that applies to all football clubs. Football has become a business, and rather than focus on individual clubs we should blame the system itself.

All football clubs don't have the luxury of being able to buy 25m players for fun, realising they're a bit shit (Adebayor, Santa Cruz, Robinho etc), then moving them on without a care in the world for the loss being made because there is zero consequence. That's exactly what City have done, thrown enough shit at the wall until something inevitably stuck.

They deserve no respect and when/if they win the league, the entire footballing world should follow suit.

[Master Splinter]

Letters, time to bring your 'buying a degree' analogy back.

NQ's 'gyppo wins the lottery' is quite apt too.

[Letters]

I rather enjoyed NQ's "getting a helicopter to drop you off at the top of Everest and then thumbing your nose at the 'losers' below you who haven't made it to the top".

[Master Splinter]

To back up MO's point, it's frankly ridiculous that this is what passes for sport. It's like an athlete doping himself with every substance known to man, but not being punished for it in any way.

Yes, we've been over this a million times and other clubs have spent big in the past, but the level to which Chelsea, Citeh, etc. have taken it is beyond ridiculous.

Sleazebags like Platini purport to want to put a stop to it, but if anyone cared about the integrity of fair sport and competition, we would not be seeing this distortion in the first place. It's more important for that runt to get his revenge on Wenger.

We're idiots for still watching football really.

I suppose it's my only vice though, and I've never paid Sky anything.

[Joker]

But City are not the only impediment to fair sport and competition. The Premier League effectively bullied the Championship Clubs to vote through a rule that makes it easier for top clubs to buy young Championship players and pay negligible compensation. Moreover, if you really want to see what started the rot in terms of less competition, look to the formation of the Premier League and Sky's monopoly on broadcasting Premiership games. Everything that has happened to football can be traced back to the agreement struck between the then division 1 clubs to break free from the Football League and set up the Premiership, a decision taken on the basis of greed alone. We can't blame City for that.

[Xhaka Can’t]

But City are not the only impediment to fair sport and competition. The Premier League effectively bullied the Championship Clubs to vote through a rule that makes it easier for top clubs to buy young Championship players and pay negligible compensation. Moreover, if you really want to see what started the rot in terms of less competition, look to the formation of the Premier League and the Sky's monopoly on broadcasting Premiership games. Everything that has happened to football can be traced back to the agreement struck between the then division 1 clubs to break free from the Football League and set up the Premiership, and decision taken on the basis of greed alone. We can't blame City for that.

Your post makes no sense at all as it is completely out of context.

[GP]

Your post makes no sense at all as it is completely out of context.

Good post

[Joker]

All I'm saying is that pinning all the blame on City makes no sense. Football in this country has been driven purely by financial considerations ever since the EPL was formed, and what's happened with City cannot be looked at in isolation.

I mentioned the change in ruling allowing Premiership clubs to effectively "poach" young players from the lower leagues because it shows that every day, you get examples of football in this country getting less and less competitive because of greed and the rules being tilted in favour of the top sides. City are only one part of that.

Then there are those who criticise Citeh because they're not obeying "market forces" and should be run as a sustainable business like us. Would that really be better for fans? We've seen how our owners treat us like "consumers" and raise ticket prices, knowing that most fans will continue attending games. They've done that precisely because they see us solely as a private business.

[Master Splinter]

Joker, no-one is saying City are solely to blame.

Why do you feel the need to constantly defend poor little City from us nasties?

People on GW have decried all aspects of football in various threads. It's just that what City are doing is taking it past 11 and up to 110.

[Marc Overmars]

Whilst it's certainly true the game is geared towards greed, that is a seperate issue. The problem here is that this club is now untouchable, through no merit of their own. That's not sport, is it?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not even sure bringing in other examples of where greed can be found in football is even slightly relevant. What Sheikh Mansour has been doing is clearly not motivated by greed (not financially at least).

Why we have to preface criticising Citeh with making sure you need to be aware of that there is money elsewhere in football is anybody's guess.

[Syn]

I don’t really blame Man City. To be honest, I don’t know why others do. Unless they go ‘round behaving like a bunch of cunts (like Barca), simply a spending a fuckload of money that they haven’t deserved is not a crime. I’m not saying I’d like that circus to happen to Arsenal, but I don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. The key distinction is that what they’re being allowed to do is blatantly wrong. Syn’s mantra #3: “Don’t blame the players, blame the game”. It’s not Man City’s fault that the rules are stupid. And the rules are very stupid.

That said, it’s obvious that whatever Man City achieve in terms of on-field success is meaningless to the rational observer. Nothing they do on the pitch will be worthy of praise.

What Joker is saying is that the sport is always (or at least, 90s onwards) been skewed in terms of inequality and it has never been a level playing field. As a left-wing pansy, he drew the line of ‘this is unfair’ well before even Chelsea became a Russian billionnaire’s penis extension. As a fellow left-wing pansy, I would like to see the league(s) as competitive as possible in the sense that clubs should have a better chance of moving up based on sound financial and on-pitch management. I think there have been many examples of this. We are one. But I don’t know how anyone could seriously take a look at top flight football post-Chelski and seriously claim that the sport isn’t just about which owners have the deepest pockets.

[Letters]

I don’t really blame Man City. To be honest, I don’t know why others do.

I don't think anyone does.

What City are doing is reprehensible but so was what Chelsea did, so are loads of things in the sport which is now set up entirely to make the gaps between the haves and have nots ever wider and make it harder for any team to move between levels unless they get a sugar daddy on board.

It's sad and it's not much fun any more because it's not a sport any more, it's a business. Sport is fun. Business isn't fun.

I don't blame City for any of it, but I'm quite happy to hate them for jumping on the billionaire bandwaggon and for thinking that anything they achieve is meaningfull.

[Syn]

I don't think anyone does.

What City are doing is reprehensible but so was what Chelsea did, so are loads of things in the sport which is now set up entirely to make the gaps between the haves and have nots ever wider and make it harder for any team to move between levels unless they get a sugar daddy on board.

It's sad and it's not much fun any more because it's not a sport any more, it's a business. Sport is fun. Business isn't fun.

I don't blame City for any of it, but I'm quite happy to hate them for jumping on the billionaire bandwaggon and for thinking that anything they achieve is meaningfull.

That's exactly what I think. I just got confused when you said: "Yes, the system is wrong. But so are the clubs exploiting it" and maybe I misunderstood 'hating Man City' for 'blaming Man City'. I don't think the clubs are wrong for exploiting the shitty rules....but it just means that their 'success' becomes almost inevitable and meaningless.

They're going to win this league by a mile this season. Wouldn't mind them winning the CL because it'd mean Barca lose out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don’t really blame Man City. To be honest, I don’t know why others do. Unless they go ‘round behaving like a bunch of cunts (like Barca), simply a spending a fuckload of money that they haven’t deserved is not a crime. I’m not saying I’d like that circus to happen to Arsenal, but I don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. The key distinction is that what they’re being allowed to do is blatantly wrong. Syn’s mantra #3: “Don’t blame the players, blame the game”. It’s not Man City’s fault that the rules are stupid. And the rules are very stupid.

That said, it’s obvious that whatever Man City achieve in terms of on-field success is meaningless to the rational observer. Nothing they do on the pitch will be worthy of praise.

What Joker is saying is that the sport is always (or at least, 90s onwards) been skewed in terms of inequality and it has never been a level playing field. As a left-wing pansy, he drew the line of ‘this is unfair’ well before even Chelsea became a Russian billionnaire’s penis extension. As a fellow left-wing pansy, I would like to see the league(s) as competitive as possible in the sense that clubs should have a better chance of moving up based on sound financial and on-pitch management. I think there have been many examples of this. We are one. But I don’t know how anyone could seriously take a look at top flight football post-Chelski and seriously claim that the sport isn’t just about which owners have the deepest pockets.

I think effectively waving huge amounts of money under any player they can get to smell it, is pretty indicative of 'go 'round behaving like a bunch of cunts'. I mean, the suggestion is that Nasri was all but about to go to Man Utd and then in come Citeh.

Anyway, why does it have to be one or the other? I can quite easily criticise Manchester City and then criticise FIFA/UEFA/FA too.

Joker might be saying that but it makes no difference to the fact Manchester City would go out of business in any other circumstance and that is my biggest gripe with the whole thing. And highlighting that other clubs might have done the same thing doesn't really change my antipathy for Citeh.

[Syn]

I think effectively waving huge amounts of money under any player they can get to smell it, is pretty indicative of 'go 'round behaving like a bunch of cunts'. I mean, the suggestion is that Nasri was all but about to go to Man Utd and then in come Citeh.

If they've 'tapped players up' or whatever the homoerotic expression is, then that's wrong and illegal. I don't know if that happened with Nasri or Tevez or other players they've previously signed. It might've - I genuinely don't know. But from my point of view, if they're just offering mass amounts of money to clubs and players, I don't think that's poor conduct. If they're going behind clubs' backs and offering money to the player first, that's wrong and obviously deserving of criticism/punishment.


Anyway, why does it have to be one or the other? I can quite easily criticise Manchester City and then criticise FIFA/UEFA/FA too.

You can criticise whoever you want. Whether it makes sense depends on what grounds you're criticising them. It's quite simple in my book: FIFA/UEFA/FA are to blame regardless because even without Arab takeover, the rules were still stupid. But if Man City are playing within the rules, I don't see how they could be criticised. Offering huge sums of money in itself is not a crime. Again - I'm not saying they haven't done anything wrong, but just that I haven't heard of it...I don't tend to follow the drawn-out transfer stories outside Arsenal so I might've missed something. I've yet to read anyone give evidence or a convincing argument that says they have.


Joker might be saying that but it makes no difference to the fact Manchester City would go out of business in any other circumstance and that is my biggest gripe with the whole thing.

Of course. That was my point also.

[Niall_Quinn]

They're going to win this league by a mile this season.

We'll see. Massive meltdown coming at that club. They have absolutely no values and this means they're all just a pack of blood-suckers who are bound to turn on each other at some point. Even if they hold it together for this season, once they've "been there, bought that, done the T-shirt", they'll collapse. At least Chelsea poured the money on to a team that was already in place (if not that great), the "gents" at City have basically chucked everything out and bought a whole new club from scratch. I don't like Barca for many reasons but they aren't in the same league as City for being crass, vulgar, devoid of character, essentially meaningless. If the Munich crash happened to City they'd just buy replacements the next day, wouldn't they? For all their money they are the cheapest thing the game has ever witnessed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Syn -The second paragraph is odd. You say I can criticise whoever I want so long as it makes sense but nobody is actually suggesting Manchester City are breaking the rules. That doesn't preclude from saying what they're doing is (and I want to use a word less righteous but can't think of one) more morally wrong.

You chose to mention Barca so I will indulge here: Were Barca's players actually breaking rules by clamouring for Cesc to return through the media? I don't believe they were but that doesn't preclude you (nor me) from explcitly criticising them for it.

I'm not entirely sure I get this idea of 'not blaming them'. As if this was some kind of well conceived plan and they are achieving this through clever use of loopholes. They were just bought by an extremely wealthy person from an even more extremely wealthy family and proceded to spend the money they have. Or maybe that's why they can't be 'blamed', they're at the behest of a man who wants to spend what he wants and they at Manchester City can't exactly say no.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

We'll see. Massive meltdown coming at that club. They have absolutely no values and this means they're all just a pack of blood-suckers who are bound to turn on each other at some point. Even if they hold it together for this season, once they've "been there, bought that, done the T-shirt", they'll collapse. At least Chelsea poured the money on to a team that was already in place (if not that great), the "gents" at City have basically chucked everything out and bought a whole new club from scratch. I don't like Barca for many reasons but they aren't in the same league as City for being crass, vulgar, devoid of character, essentially meaningless. If the Munich crash happened to City they'd just buy replacements the next day, wouldn't they? For all their money they are the cheapest thing the game has ever witnessed.

Best poster tbh

[Syn]

Syn -The second paragraph is odd. You say I can criticise whoever I want so long as it makes sense but nobody is actually suggesting Manchester City are breaking the rules. That doesn't preclude from saying what they're doing is (and I want to use a word less righteous but can't think of one) more morally wrong.

You chose to mention Barca so I will indulge here: Were Barca's players actually breaking rules by clamouring for Cesc to return through the media? I don't believe they were but that doesn't preclude you (nor me) from explcitly criticising them for it.

I'm not entirely sure I get this idea of 'not blaming them'. As if this was some kind of well conceived plan and they are achieving this through clever use of loopholes. They were just bought by an extremely wealthy person from an even more extremely wealthy family and proceded to spend the money they have. Or maybe that's why they can't be 'blamed', they're at the behest of a man who wants to spend what he wants and they at Manchester City can't exactly say no.

Right, I think I've got a clearer picture now. It was the Barca point you made that helped. You're saying that, overall, what's going on at Man City is wrong (morally) and that nobody's holding a gun to their heads; Man City are participating in something that is wrong and so are deserving of criticism/blame.

Barca haven't been punished for what they did and so evidently they didn't break the rulebook either - my objection to their behaviour can only be moral one too.

So in the same way I'm blaming Barca, I guess blaming Man City is fair game.

My question is now this: If Man City were more subtle about it - perhaps more like Mourinho and Chelsea were - with less big-name signings and a much lower level of spending would they be less deserving of criticism? i.e. When your budget is £800m, and you spend £20m of it...does it make it 'right' to spend £50m instead of £700m of it? Because IMO, I'd have to go for the £700m. Aren't you eventually converging to the same outcome - that Man City keep climbing the table (at a much slower rate) - until they are no.1?

[Syn]

We'll see. Massive meltdown coming at that club. They have absolutely no values and this means they're all just a pack of blood-suckers who are bound to turn on each other at some point. Even if they hold it together for this season, once they've "been there, bought that, done the T-shirt", they'll collapse. At least Chelsea poured the money on to a team that was already in place (if not that great), the "gents" at City have basically chucked everything out and bought a whole new club from scratch. I don't like Barca for many reasons but they aren't in the same league as City for being crass, vulgar, devoid of character, essentially meaningless. If the Munich crash happened to City they'd just buy replacements the next day, wouldn't they? For all their money they are the cheapest thing the game has ever witnessed.

I dunno...that's a lot of description without much substance, for me. Chelsea don't win any extra points for requiring less of a push. Whether you buy your way from 4th to 1st or whether you buy you way from 20th to 1st, you're still buying shit. I think that's part of Joker's argument before - that people have some sort of preconceived notion of what teams 'should' be challenging for the title and what teams shouldn't. Even though we have been challenging for the title in recent years and are generally seen as a top team (yes, this is still the case...) it wouldn't make it any better if we did it than if Norwich did it. Sure, we'd hold on to more players than they would...we might keep Wilshere, Van Persie and a few others instead of buying a totally new team like Norwich would have to - but does that make us morally superior? (What am I saying - we are the champions of that trophy). For all the colourful words to describe a 'tasteless' Man City, they all stem from the fact that they (undeservingly) spend too much for your liking.

[Niall_Quinn]

I dunno...that's a lot of description without much substance, for me. Chelsea don't win any extra points for requiring less of a push. Whether you buy your way from 4th to 1st or whether you buy you way from 20th to 1st, you're still buying shit. I think that's part of Joker's argument before - that people have some sort of preconceived notion of what teams 'should' be challenging for the title and what teams shouldn't. Even though we have been challenging for the title in recent years and are generally seen as a top team (yes, this is still the case...) it wouldn't make it any better if we did it than if Norwich did it. Sure, we'd hold on to more players than they would...we might keep Wilshere, Van Persie and a few others instead of buying a totally new team like Norwich would have to - but does that make us morally superior? (What am I saying - we are the champions of that trophy). For all the colourful words to describe a 'tasteless' Man City, they all stem from the fact that they (undeservingly) spend too much for your liking.

No, that's not it. In every competitive sport there's a certain amount of tolerance for variations in competitiveness. You get good boxers, mediocre boxers, but if a super-heavyweight was allowed to go and fight in the featherweight division the so what if he ends up being the world champ? Big deal. It's not sport, is it? It's contrived with an inevitable outcome. Same with football. Yes there are certain inequalities that seem to be built into the game these days, the big clubs who always seem to be the big clubs, the minnows. But the possibility for sport still exists and among the tops guys it's not a foregone conclusion who will win. It is now though, simply because one club has got more money than every other team in the country combined. It's just a nonsense, even if City lost 2 entire teams to injury and suspension they'd still have another world class team in reserve. So they're not subject to the normal conditions of the sport. Added to that, even if they could be challenged they can simply buy the players from their closest rivals. When money is no object you have no sport, the sport is gone. Chelsea started the rot, City have finished it off. You might say there can be 3 or 4 more Citys to come and then there will be competition at the top again. But that doesn't work either because the gap to everyone else will be immense and the money will have effectively created a separate league. In fact that's what they want to do isn't it? Abandon the league and gang up with the other moneybags clubs so they can say, this is it, this is football now and we own the lot. It's not that they spend too much money, it's that the money they spend will end up destroying a game that's lasted for over a century.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

My question is now this: If Man City were more subtle about it - perhaps more like Mourinho and Chelsea were - with less big-name signings and a much lower level of spending would they be less deserving of criticism? i.e. When your budget is £800m, and you spend £20m of it...does it make it 'right' to spend £50m instead of £700m of it? Because IMO, I'd have to go for the £700m. Aren't you eventually converging to the same outcome - that Man City keep climbing the table (at a much slower rate) - until they are no.1?

The amount of money you mention I think is somewhere around the figure the FFP rules are supposed to allow owners to invest.

It wouldn't bother me if it was that amount of investment because at least then they were acting with some sort of business sense. Obviously their turnover will be more than the money invested from somewhere else in that case and thus they wouldn't be spending at a rate that would otherwise see them collapse (and you've already admitted you agree with this). I am not against owners investing per se; it's their club. The way Sheikh Mansour is doing it hollows their achievement, not just because the amount of money they are spending but the way they have done it shows it could've been any other club. By doing it the way you suggested they would've been in a much stronger position financially (I mean through their own means).

Spending at the rate you suggest also means they wouldn't have gone a long way to raising the prices and wages of players for every other club. Man City are in no way alone in doing that but they have spent huge amounts of money on players who aren't particularly great whereas say Real Madrid have spent most of their money on the very top players but of course, I don't have much time for Real Madrid either and they do earn a huge amount.

[Marc Overmars]

I read in the paper this morning that Tevez has won a golf tournament in Argentina while he's been AWOL.

:haha:

[Master Splinter]

Tevez :bow:.

[Cripps_orig]

Milan are after him

We should get him

Wont stay for more than 2 years but he'll score quite a lot during those 2 years. We only signed Park for 2 years after all and hes shit so why not do the same with Tevez whos quality?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Milan are after him

We should get him

Wont stay for more than 2 years but he'll score quite a lot during those 2 years. We only signed Park for 2 years after all and hes shit so why not do the same with Tevez whos quality?

Yeah just what we need since we seem to have divested ourselves of morale sapping self-centred *******s.

[Niall_Quinn]

Milan are after him

We should get him

Wont stay for more than 2 years but he'll score quite a lot during those 2 years. We only signed Park for 2 years after all and hes shit so why not do the same with Tevez whos quality?

Yeah because we could do with a cunt who'd rather play golf than honour his contract. The guy must really love football, yes?

[Cripps_orig]

Mancini has said he will never play for City again

Whats he supposed to do?

[Niall_Quinn]

Mancini has said he will never play for City again

Whats he supposed to do?

Who cares what he does, provided he doesn't end up anywhere near our club.

[Cripps_orig]

Quality player. We can do with as many of them as we can.

Must Get

[Niall_Quinn]

Quality player. We can do with as many of them as we can.

Must Get

I suppose he'd want around a quarter of a mill a week and the transfer fee would be in the £30mill region. Yeah, he's definitely coming here.

[Cripps_orig]

I suppose he'd want around a quarter of a mill a week and the transfer fee would be in the £30mill region. Yeah, he's definitely coming here.I said i want him here.

I didnt say he was coming here :rolleyes:

And wasnt the whole point of moving to the Emirates so we can compete with the big clubs? If we arent going to shell out for Tevez or another big name player cos Wenger is too tight then lets move back to Highbury

[Niall_Quinn]

I said i want him here.

I didnt say he was coming here :rolleyes:

And wasnt the whole point of moving to the Emirates so we can compete with the big clubs? If we arent going to shell out for Tevez or another big name player cos Wenger is too tight then lets move back to Highbury

I'd definitely buy one of those flats if we moved back to Highbury. That would be cool.

[Letters]

Good piece here

http://spurs-suchsmallportions.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-poznan-is-wholly-appropriate.html

(yeah, it's from a Spurs site, sent to me by a Spurs fan, but I agree with all of it)

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So if Man City have made a £200m loss this season alone and they got £400m sposorship over 10 years...doesn't that mean they'll be fucked by the time the fair play thing comes in anyway because they can't keep getting sponsored £400m every year.

[Letters]

They can if their owner, say, says he'll be their shirt sponsor for £400m a year :shrug:

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But hasn't he just sposored them for £400m for 10 years for exactly that?

[Marc Overmars]

Tevez might be off to Milan. His crook advisor is in talks with them.

[WMUG]

Yup. :ilt:

[Master Splinter]

We'll definitely get Milan now.

[Xhaka Can’t]

So if Man City have made a £200m loss this season alone and they got £400m sposorship over 10 years...doesn't that mean they'll be fucked by the time the fair play thing comes in anyway because they can't keep getting sponsored £400m every year.

The £400m is amortised over the 10 year period of the deal.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We'll definitely get Milan now.

isnt he cup tied anyway? think he played in hte first game. could be wrong though

[Master Splinter]

isnt he cup tied anyway? think he played in hte first game. could be wrong though

City look like they are going out though.

So he can play for Milan (I think).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lots of Santa's at the Etihad Stadium today apparently. They'll buy anyone.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Balotelli and Micah Richards had a bust-up in training.

:haha:

[BOBN]

seems like theyve realised nasri is a fraudulent coward of a player
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=243617

loooolz

[Cripps_orig]

Things could be worse.

They could have Gervinho

[BOBN]

gervinho is twice the player for half the price.

comparable to the anelka to henry deal.

[Cripps_orig]

Not from what ive seen this season

And Nasris hardly played but scored 3 and fuckload of assists

[Master Splinter]

Nasri is the Berbatov of assists this season.

BOBN is spot-on with this assessment.

Nasri has regressed into a fat Hleb.

He's a walking Pointless Rosicky Turn.

A luxury player who who has no guts, so his talent is wasted.

[Marc Overmars]

In hindsight would he have even stepped up for us this year without Cesc? He doesn't have the character, in a team full of stars he's been shown up.

[Master Splinter]

He was rubbish in midfield.

He can be devastating on the wings if he wants to be. But his application and work-rate is exposed when compared to top players and even average ones like Milner.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's an ugly lesbian cunt face too, don't forget.

[Cripps_orig]

He needs to be played in the middle like he was when he was excellent for us and he'll come good.

That link BOBN posted pretty much has everyone saying that and more posters are having a go at Johnson

[-Xs-]

Of course his application may have dropped; he's got himself the pay rise he was after. Now he doesn't really need to apply himself, he still gets paid after all.

[Kaiser]

Nah, he was generally average in the middle. He played to a high level when on the right wing for three months, until Cesc returned, which somehow led to Nasri's fall in form. He's too much of a coward to dominate a game. And he takes too long to make passes from a central position. Silva is miles better obviously in this and every other regard. Doesn't matter for Citeh fans though, they'll just go out and sign another playmaker who can perform when needed. And it'll be down to another £300m sponsorship deal from some Abu Dhabi Corporation offshoot.

[BOBN]

In hindsight would he have even stepped up for us this year without Cesc? He doesn't have the character, in a team full of stars he's been shown up.
its was a crazy idea. no character, no balls and no real vision or passing ability. even the french NT has started to get that (been playing others in his 'favoured' position, dropping him etc)

honestly I was horrified when I heard wenger was fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of him. he should know the above more than anybody. its things like that that makes even the most pro-wenger like myself question the man.

[Kaiser]

Yeah, Marvin Martin has taken his place in the French NT (in the central role), no? Heard we were in for him in the summer, but to no avail.

[BOBN]

Not from what ive seen this season

And Nasris hardly played but scored 3 and fuckload of assistspeople said that re henry (vs anelka) in the first 6 months as well.

nasri did dikk-all in the first 6 months and hes doing dikk-all now. as far as im concerned anyone who rates him struggles to tell the difference between sound technique and a proper player.

if it was all about technique we would have won 5 of the last 7 championships

[BOBN]

Yeah, Marvin Martin has taken his place in the French NT (in the central role), no? Heard we were in for him in the summer, but to no avail.
he has and I heard we were after him too but not sure what came of that.

such an important position that you cannot afford to carry some airy-fairy player if you want to do things. wouldnt have minded, not all players are central playmakers, but he doesnt have the desire, balls or pace to continually attack his full back to be a serious wide player. the definition of a nothing player.