Formula 1 2013

[GP]

New season is almost here.

Teams will line up as follows:

Infiniti Red Bull Racing
S. Vettel
M. Webber

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
J. Button
S. Perez

Scuderia Ferrari
F. Alonso
F. Massa

Lotus Renault F1
K. Raikkonen
R. Grosjean

Mercedes AMG F1
L. Hamilton
N. Rosberg

Sauber F1
N. Hukkenberg
E. Gutierrez

Sahara Force India
P. di Resta
A. Sutil

Williams-Renault
P. Maldonado
V. Bottas

Scuderia Toro Rosso
J-E. Vergne
D. Ricciardo

Caterham F1
C. Pic
G. van der Garde

Marussia F1
M. Chilton
J. Bianchi

[GP]

Australian Grand Prix

Melbourne, 15-17 March

http://judgesports.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/australia-starting-grid.jpg

[GP]

Lotus E21

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00378/120796630_lotus_378499c.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought they were getting rid of those horrible stepped noses?

[GP]

No.

[Niall_Quinn]

I take it from that answer they won't be getting rid of the stepped nose? Or did you mean, "Noooooooooooo! Look at that fucking horrible stepped nose!"?

[GP]

They aren't getting rid of the stepped nose, obviously.

McLaren's launch is today at 10.30am streamed live on heir website.

I expect a stepped nose there too.

[Niall_Quinn]

When will Red Bull be launching their illegal car?

[GP]

http://www.mclaren.com/_includes/images/slir/w767-h432/_includes/uploads/6727.jpg

No visable step on the McLaren, but it's a much higher chassis so it'll be hidden under a panel.

[Niall_Quinn]

Much better.

[GP]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ferrari-f138-2013-886x459.jpg

[GP]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/842835_497686890269848_192127333_o.jpg

[GP]

4 cars launched so far, only one with a stepped nose.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ferrari-f138-2013-886x459.jpg

Thing of beauty. Just look at it. In fact don't even drive it (because it will be too slow). But it looks great.

[Niall_Quinn]

4 cars launched so far, one one with a stepped nose.

Lotus :haha:

[GP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23E1m8ZxFmU&feature=player_embedded

:bow:
What a man.

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCGFprlCIAA9XAF.jpg

[GP]

http://e0.365dm.com/13/02/660x350/Red-Bull-RB9-Youtube-grab-2_2894983.jpg

Red Bull bring another ugly nose.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://e0.365dm.com/13/02/660x350/Red-Bull-RB9-Youtube-grab-2_2894983.jpg

Red Bull bring another ugly nose.

Does it have the new oil slick and smoke screen package? Is Lucky Bastard v2.0 installed or are they sticking with the "Any Other Car Would Have Been Hit and Out of the Race" Jammy Dodger unit?

[GP]

Does it have the new oil slick and smoke screen package? Is Lucky Bastard v2.0 installed or are they sticking with the "Any Other Car Would Have Been Hit and Out of the Race" Jammy Dodger unit?

Only in the German unit. The Aussie units don't have those devices. Or an engine.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ah, Master Race set-up.

[GP]

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/216122.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

Hamilton's going to look weird in that after so many years at McLaren.

[GP]

Hamilton's going to look slow in that after so many years at McLaren.

True

[GP]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCU0DFzCIAEkK-2.jpg

[GP]

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/216166.jpg

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/6PZax8l.jpg

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think that's a bit more underhanded than any Red Bull design.

[GP]

It's one way of warming the tyres, I guess.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Schumacher's revenge. :bow:

[GP]

Jenson Button was fastest at the end of day 1.

Not that it means anything.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jenson Button was fastest at the end of day 1.

Not that it means anything.

Day 1 of what?

[GP]

Day 1 of what?

Tryouts for American Gladiators.

[Niall_Quinn]

Tryouts for American Gladiators.

Not that it means anything.

[Injury Time]

Jenson Button was fastest at the end of day 1.

Not that it means anything.

Fastest to book his gay wedding, I'm sure it means a lot to him!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hamilton crashed today.

[GP]

Hamilton crashed today.

Yeah, brake failure put him in the tyres

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Schumacher's reign of terror continues.

I think Max Chilton crashed also but in a Marussia, that's bound to happen.

[GP]

Yeah, Max 'son of a major shareholder' Chilton put it in the tyres too.

He's so talented.

[GP]

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/216734.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

Schumacher's reign of terror continues.

I think Max Chilton crashed also but in a Marussia, that's bound to happen.

So this Max Chilton guy is real? I thought he was the first computer generated virtual driver used to pad the grid and haul expensive advertising around the track. I'd assumed they picked the name for the future film franchise. Now he turns out to be real?

Is nothing sacred?

[PGFC]

I wonder if his brother's jealous of his F1 drive.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

DC's sister has been found dead in her home. :(

[GP]

Aye, very sad.

[Dennis Bendtner]

David Coulthard? He was on Saturday Kitchen yesterday (it was on in the background...). That's sad.

[GP]

Georgie Thompson has left Sky's F1 coverage team.

[GP]

http://www.williamsf1.com/Global/Images/Resizable/Resized/FW35_Angle-gallerywide.JPG

[Niall_Quinn]

Georgie Thompson has left Sky's F1 coverage team.

Looking at her arse was one of the key attractions. Now we just get to see boring karts buzzing around concrete lap after lap.

[GP]

Looking at her arse was one of the key attractions. Now we just get to see boring karts buzzing around concrete lap after lap.

It's ok, she has been replaced with Claire Balding*. ##



*not really

[GP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAm1be_tPUY

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:lol:

I'm glad he answered it like that.

Pointless and vacuous question.

[GP]

You expect nothing less from Sky Sports.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAm1be_tPUY

Everything Kimi does is quality. For top, top quality though he should have punched him in the face.

[GP]

Sounds like Force India have finally decided on their 2nd driver, and it's the return of Adrian Sutil!

That is if they are still in business by the start of the season.

[GP]

Jules Bianch has replaced Luis Razia at Marussia

[GP]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21655985

McLaren-Honda :bow:

http://flipacars.com/pics/McLaren/mclaren-mp44-04.jpg

:loveblush:

[GP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8_7N67CO84

[GP]

Just over 5 hours until FP1 :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just watching the qualifying now:

Hamilton spun out in Q1. Horrible conditions.

Van Der Garde had big damage to his front wing too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Actually it looked like everyone went off. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pic nailed his car!

Massive crash for Gutierrez, nice spins. He hit where Massa hit too apparently.

Rain. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just saw Maldonado going off roading.

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Qualifying was abandoned. Q2 and Q3 on tomorrow morning.

[GP]

Midnight, in fact.

I remember when they used to run in the rain.

[Injury Time]

Qualifying was abandoned. Q2 and Q3 on tomorrow morning.
:handbags:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The tone for the season was started when Sky had a technical problem about ten seconds in to the start of their programme - took ten minutes to fix it. :lol:

And then it happened again. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wow, just wow. Unbelievable. All of a sudden this water just started falling out of the sky, rain they called it. Never seen the like. Obviously everything was abandoned. Rain! Or...

WTF? Get on with it FFS! What's the point of the full wet tyres if the whole show gets called of when it rains? This cissy arsed bullshit queer stuff is killing life as we know it. Fucking rain is when we get a mixed grid and an exciting race. Take that out and the German just wins it all.

[GP]

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Impressionen-Formel-1-GP-Australien-14-Maerz-2013-19-fotoshowImageNew-83435667-669258.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

You're thinking possibly a bus lane and car pooling as the next big advance in F1?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Impressionen-Formel-1-GP-Australien-14-Maerz-2013-19-fotoshowImageNew-83435667-669258.jpg

Why does Grosjean get his own banner?

[GP]

He doesn't.

It's for Maldonado as well.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Qualifying is still wet. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Perez. :haha:

Oh dear.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

McLaren scuppering the newbie's challenge. :bow:

He goes out of Q2.

Hulkenberg, Sutil, Vergne, Ricciardo, Perez, Maldonado and Bottas were the ones to drop out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Q3 results:

Vettel on pole! Congrats to him. Webber second, then Hamilton. After that, Massa, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Grosjean, Di Resta :blink:, Button.

[Niall_Quinn]

More controversy surrounding Red Bull, critics have claimed the new paint they are using on Vettel's car looks suspiciously like a pair of wings and four jet engines.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Formation lap underway. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hulkenberg was pulled out of the race for safety reasons.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Webber once again has a terrible start! Lost so many places.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Raikkonen ahead of Hamilton!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Button gets rid of the soft tyres very early on. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Crap pitstop for Webber.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel pits. Down there with Maldonado in 11th now.

Raikkonen is nailing it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Massa pits, doesn't gain anything from staying out longer on the soft tyre. Alonso went another lap on it. Risky.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maldonado goes off-road again!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I can't understand why some of the cars are still out on the softest tyres. Sitting ducks.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Webber down in 11th. :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brilliant from Alonso, he is ahead of Vettel and Sutil!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brilliantly done by Vettel to overtake Sutil.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rain expected in a few minutes. :popcorn:

Maldonado goes off road one too many times. He's out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rosberg is out!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ricciardo out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Raikkonen wins! :bow: Congrats to him. Alonso second, Vettel third.

Then Massa, Hamilton, Webber, Sutil, Ri Resta, Button and Grosjean.

[GP]

Malaysian Grand Prix

Sepang, 22-24 March

http://www.whtimes.co.uk/polopoly_fs/02f1gpmalaysia_4613_1_1329321!image/2889769814.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/2889769814.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

10 minutes left of Q2.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rain is starting to come down.

:popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Di Resta goes off wide!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wisely nobody is bothering to go out for the last two minutes of it.

Rosberg, Webber, Hamilton, Raikkonen, Sutil, Massa, Alonso, Button, Vettel and Perez through.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Q3 under way. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel on pole! Congrats to him. Massa in second, Alonso in third. Alonso. :lol: Then Hamilton, Webber, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Button, Sutil and Perez.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Raikkonen sitting down for an interview with the BBC:

"We better do this quickly or I go inside"

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kimi is great.

Alonso's front wing basically exploded! It was a great start by Webber, up to second now. Alonso touched the back of Vettel's car early on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rosberg ahead of Button!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What do McLaren do in the off season? Another dog of a car it looks like.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel pits early on, as does Massa.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Terrible pitstop by Force India for Sutil.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hamilton went to the McLaren pitbox!

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Googly eyes. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Scherzinger is pissing herself. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maldonado has lost his front wing, off roading again.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Raikkonen ahead of Perez!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

McLaren: "Feel free to pop in and say "hi" any time, @LewisHamilton!"

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Force India just can't get the pitstops working today. Di Resta has been there for ages now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel comes out of the pits behind Webber!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Force India are doing it with Sutil now. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Di Resta retires. Little bit angry I think.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel tells the garage Webber is too slow and needs to get out of the way. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sutil retires too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel comes out of the pits behind Hamilton!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Button is stranded in the pit lane!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel passes Hamilton!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Webber and Vettel going at it. Hamilton and Rosberg going at it!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brilliant racing between Vettel and Webber! Vettel now leads.

Shit your pants time for Horner.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maldonado is out of the race again. He has colourful tyres now though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Part of Raikkonen's front wing goes flying!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rosberg was asking Ross Brawn to let him through, due to being faster than Hamilton. Brawn says negative. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brawn telling Rosberg to STFU again. :lol:

This is great, punch-ups later on. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Button retired from the race, as did Ricciardo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vettel wins! Congrats to him. Webber second, Hamilton third. Then Rosberg, Massa, Grosjean, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg and Perez.

[GP]

The least happy podium I've ever seen. Ridiculous.

Vettel is a dick. I hope Webber punches him in the face and balls.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

:lol: Vettel is such a ****.


I feel for Webber but unless he's prepared to walk away mid season there's nowt much he can do about. The team are obviously going to me more supportive and understanding of Vettel who's younger and faster.

[Munchies]

Vettel is a fucking nob

[GP]

That seems to be the consensus.

He said he 'didn't do it on purpose'

:doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Deliberate by Vettel on the first lap? He virtually parked the car on the corner. Inevitable outcome given the wet conditions.

Can't blame him for wanting to win the race against Webber though. Why are we getting team orders in race #2 of a long season? Let them race FFS! What does Horner mean when he says it's a team sport? He ultimately means sponsorship money. But there's none of that anyway if the crowd gets bored and pisses off.

Webber came out looking the bigger arsehole to be honest, complaining because he wasn't gifted the win from an off-track decision. He should have just put his foot down and let his driving do the talking. And he was a dick to moan about it on the podium. If he wants the support of the team (who had already secured him the lead by pitting Vettel first and feeding back the tyre info) then he's going about it the wrong way.

[GP]

Nope.

[Munchies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jbb3tYcyRvw

lol

[Marc Overmars]

Never really got the team aspect to F1, if you're directly competing with someone then it should be every man for himself.

[GP]

Never really got the team aspect to F1, if you're directly competing with someone then it should be every man for himself.

Fine, let him build the car himself then.

[IBK]

Deliberate by Vettel on the first lap? He virtually parked the car on the corner. Inevitable outcome given the wet conditions.

Can't blame him for wanting to win the race against Webber though. Why are we getting team orders in race #2 of a long season? Let them race FFS! What does Horner mean when he says it's a team sport? He ultimately means sponsorship money. But there's none of that anyway if the crowd gets bored and pisses off.

Webber came out looking the bigger arsehole to be honest, complaining because he wasn't gifted the win from an off-track decision. He should have just put his foot down and let his driving do the talking. And he was a dick to moan about it on the podium. If he wants the support of the team (who had already secured him the lead by pitting Vettel first and feeding back the tyre info) then he's going about it the wrong way.

I agree. I feel sorry for him, but clearly Vettel's a better driver (and a bigger c unt of course), and Webber looks whiny.

[GP]

I agree. I feel sorry for him, but clearly Vettel's a better driver (and a bigger c unt of course), and Webber looks whiny.

Vettel was at no point faster in the race. Only when both drivers were told to turn the engine down and hold position. Webber did, because he's a team player and respectful of his team. Vettel didn't because he's a cunt.

[IBK]

Vettel was at no point faster in the race. Only when both drivers were told to turn the engine down and hold position. Webber did, because he's a team player and respectful of his team. Vettel didn't because he's a cunt.

Makes Webber look a schmuk though. Noone remembers the fair play league. Webber looks like his lucrative contract with Red Bull is most important and like it or not everyone knows he's slower than Vettel.

[GP]

Makes Webber look a schmuk though. Noone remembers the fair play league. Webber looks like his lucrative contract with Red Bull is most important and like it or not everyone knows he's slower than Vettel.

Eh? The only person who looks like a schmuck today is Vettel.

Literally everyone is disgusted by his actions.

[IBK]

Eh? The only person who looks like a schmuck today is Vettel.

Literally everyone is disgusted by his actions.

What difference will it make though? He's towed the line with his false apology and he's a better driver. Noone remembers that Schumacker was a big c unt.

[GP]

I have no idea what you're talking about now. Defending Vettel for his actions today is pointless as even his own team has slapped him down for it.

IBS and his classic going off on a tangent.

[Niall_Quinn]

Vettel IS Red Bull. They made that rod for their own backs. He's an arrogant, utterly selfish, unscrupulous son of a bitch.

That's why he wins. Good guys lose at the sharp end of anything that's ultra competitive. You think Hamilton, Alonso, Schumacher are nice guys with an instinct for fair play? None of them are, but they are winners.

Footballers dive and roll around the ground clutching their faces. This is many, many times worse than anything Vettel does and they do it every week. Scumbags but it's accepted as part of the game (which is shameful and scandalous). Compared to that Vettel the racing driver is being condemned for racing and trying to win. It was the most exciting moment in the whole race when he went wheel to wheel with Webber. This is what we want isn't it? Fuck the teams who want a procession at then expense of entertainment.

I don't like Vettel one little bit, but if I had to put money on someone to win come what may and by doing whatever is required I'd bet on him every time. I think the first lap incident was entirely deliberate, btw. Don't think he was after Alonso as such but he must have known what was going to happen when he parked it.

[GP]

This is where you're wrong. 'going wheel to wheel' with Webber implies they raced flat out and Vettel won but that's not the case.

It was nothing more than stabbing his own team mate in the back.

[Niall_Quinn]

This is where you're wrong. 'going wheel to wheel' with Webber implies they raced flat out and Vettel won but that's not the case.

It was nothing more than stabbing his own team mate in the back.

Come on, he hardly moved over did he? That's why the team was so panicked. Anyway, only an idiot doesn't expect to be stabbed in the back when Vettel is behind him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66581000/jpg/_66581069_webber_vettel_pressconf_getty320.jpg

:lol:

[Injury Time]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66581000/jpg/_66581069_webber_vettel_pressconf_getty320.jpg

:lol:
"someone's sleeping on the sofa tonight darling, and it's NOT going to be me <_<"

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/14099315

I had forgotten about that. :lol:

[GP]

He did stay behind, though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He did but Vettel was able to fend him off - Webber says himself that he didn't let up.


"Of course I ignored the team and I was battling to the end[...]"

It was a dick move by Vettel but this is what you get with racing drivers. Damon Hill said it there on that link, asking a driver not to race is only going to piss them off. Hard for Webber to take being on the receiving end I am sure but the opportunity will come where he can get the advantage and he's bound to take it.

[GP]

Chinese Grand Prix

Shanghai, 12-14 April

http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/00/88/91/23_big.jpg

[GP]

Hamilton on pole. He is great.

Kimi 2nd.
Alonso 3rd

Webber 'ran out of fuel' in q2 so he'll start way down :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well done to Hamilton.

Webber did a Webber.

Q1 didn't have a time set until after 8 minutes in. Q3 was sillier, no time set until the time had elapsed. :lol:

Vettel didn't bother setting a time in Q3.

[IBK]

I have no idea what you're talking about now. Defending Vettel for his actions today is pointless as even his own team has slapped him down for it.

IBS and his classic going off on a tangent.

I'm not 'defending' him. I'm saying that at the end of the day, the sport will support drivers who want to race, and winners. Not some 'noble' teammate who needs team orders to win. Or am I missing something?

[GP]

am I missing something?

Yes.

[IBK]

Yes.


I'm not sure. I understand the principle point. I understand also that a successful team can fail when both drivers don't get treated fairly. But team orders are part of the hard-nosed, money-driven part of the sport. Traditional racing fans, while criticising the spirit in which he behaved, surely have at least a sneaking regard for a faster driver who would not be shackled? Everyone knows Vettel is the better driver. Does Webber need charity to give him a win?

[GP]

I'm not sure. I understand the principle point. I understand also that a successful team can fail when both drivers don't get treated fairly. But team orders are part of the hard-nosed, money-driven part of the sport. Traditional racing fans, while criticising the spirit in which he behaved, surely have at least a sneaking regard for a faster driver who would not be shackled? Everyone knows Vettel is the better driver. Does Webber need charity to give him a win?

Again, you're demonstrating that you don't know what you're talking about.

The team order was given to BOTH drivers.

One obeyed the order, one didn't. It had nothing to do with the speed of either.

[IBK]

Again, you're demonstrating that you don't know what you're talking about.

The team order was given to BOTH drivers.

One obeyed the order, one didn't. It had nothing to do with the speed of either.

OK - so you are saying that Webber just accepted getting fucked in the arse. For me the same point applies. Also - everyone heard the race radio from Vettel saying he was faster.

[GP]

Also - everyone heard the race radio from Vettel saying he was faster.

So? None of the timing suggested that he was. In fact, Webber was extending the gap in the subsequent laps.

After the final pit stop, BOTH drivers were instructed to turn down the engine revs and hold position. Webber obeyed his TEAM, and Vettel stabbed him in the back.

Simple.

[IBK]

So? None of the timing suggested that he was. In fact, Webber was extending the gap in the subsequent laps.

After the final pit stop, BOTH drivers were instructed to turn down the engine revs and hold position. Webber obeyed his TEAM, and Vettel stabbed him in the back.

Simple.

I get you - I really do. And personally I sympathise with Webber. But we live in a shallow world, and I guarantee you that if Vettel succeeds this season - noone will give a monkeys about what's gone before.

[GP]

I get you - I really do. And personally I sympathise with Webber. But we live in a shallow world, and I guarantee you that if Vettel succeeds this season - noone will give a monkeys about what's gone before.

Well, He won't give a monkeys, because he's a disrespectful little shit.

But anyone with half a brain will find if difficult to respect him for his so-called achievements.

[IBK]

Well, He won't give a monkeys, because he's a disrespectful little shit.

But anyone with half a brain should find if difficult to respect him for his so-called achievements.

Didn't happen with Schumacker.

[GP]

Didn't happen with Schumacker.

Yeah, he's universally loved...

:rolleyes:

[IBK]

Yeah, he's universally loved...

:rolleyes:

Nope - but he's also universally acclaimed as one of best ever. Like Woods; or Zidane; or Best - or even Tyson.

You're not getting my point, bro.

[GP]

Nope - but he's also universally acclaimed as one of best ever. Like Woods; or Zidane; or Best - or even Tyson.

You're not getting my point, bro.

Because you don't really have one.

[IBK]

Because you don't really have one.

Ok - if you say so. Nice debate though. :cheers:

[Ollie the Optimist]

i see red bull came up with a genius idea of how to avoid team order issues in this grand prix. just dont put fuel in webbers car and get him to start at the back so he wont be near vettel

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Avram Grant is there. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Webber is starting from the pit lane, in 22nd.

Formation lap under way.

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Alonso and Massa both ahead of Raikkonen!

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Sutil pushes Di Resta out wide! :haha:

Webber pits to get rid of the soft tyre. :lol:

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Now Di Resta and Perez nearly hit.

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Alonso and Massa ahead of Hamilton!

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Hamilto and Rosberg both pit.

Wow, Sutil had huge damage to his car. Fire in the pit lane!

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Massive crash from Gutierrez.

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Massa. :haha:

Decided to stay out on the soft tyres, ends up behind Webber.

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Massa goes ahead of Webber!

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Hulkenberg and Vettel pit at the same time.

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Vettel pits and gets out ahead fo Hulk easily.

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Webber damages his front wing by hitting Vergne!

:haha:

FFS Mark.

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Raikkonen hits Perez!

Is everyone drunk?

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Webber's car sounds fucked.

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Webber's tyre came off, nearly in to Vettel's path! :haha:

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Button is making those tyres last, 23 laps, still hasn't pitted once.

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Rosberg retires!

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Button finally does pit, he's still right on Alonso.

Vettel leads.

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Alonso up to second ahead of Hulkenberg.

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Alonso will soon pass Vettel, though I don't think there will be much resistance.

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David Coulthard, BBC F1 co-commentator

"Jenson Button has slipped off his driving gloves and put on his boxing gloves at the request of his team. He's ready to fight."

Overtaken within the next lap.

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Great move by Vettel on Massa, after pitting.

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Vettel and Button will soon be going on to the shit soft tyres.

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Button gets ahead of Massa!

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Alonso wins! Congrats to him. Raikkonen second, Hamilton third. Vettel right on Hamilton's arse at the end. Then Button, Massa, Ricciardo, Di Resta, Grosjean and Hulkenberg

[GP]

DRS made overtaking way too easy here.

[GP]

Also, Pirelli tyres are shit.

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They are.

Also, Vettel and Massa under investigation for using DRS on yellow flags, not sure if anyone else is.

[GP]

Vettel should be disqualified from the race, championship and life.

[GP]

i see red bull came up with a genius idea of how to avoid team order issues in this grand prix. just dont put fuel in webbers car and get him to start at the back so he wont be near vettel

He made his way up quite nicely, but the team sorted that by only putting 3 wheels on him.

[GP]

5 place grid pelanty for Steve.

[GP]

Mark Webber has signed a 5 year contract to drive for Porsche LMP1.

Good luck to him.

[GP]

Bahrain Grand Prix

Sakhir, 19-21 April

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Mark Webber has signed a 5 year contract to drive for Porsche LMP1.

Good luck to him.

It'll be sad to see him go, hope he publically punches Vettel in the face and makes him cry before he leaves.

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Yeah, he's one of the good guys. He should definitely punch Vettel in the face and balls.

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Q2 is under way, Alonso fastest in Q1.

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Vettel fatest in Q2.

Grosjean, Perez, Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, Bottas and Vergne drop out.

Button squeaks in to Q3 in 10th.

What do McLaren spend all their money on in the off season?

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Q3 under way.

:popcorn:

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Apparently the wind tunnel tyres (60% of full size) that were given to McLaren don't behave the same way as the race tyres, which affects the front suspension which is throwing the whole aero package out of wack.

Massive upgrade is coming for Barcelona, but I fear it's too little too late.

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Rosberg on pole! Congrats to him. Vettel second, Alonso third. Then Hamilton (though he drops five places for the race), Webber (who has his own pelanty), Massa, Di Resta, Sutil, Raikkonen and Button, who couldn't be arsed setting a time although it's understandable with that dog of a car.

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Apparently the wind tunnel tyres (60% of full size) that were given to McLaren don't behave the same way as the race tyres, which affects the front suspension which is throwing the whole aero package out of wack.

Massive upgrade is coming for Barcelona, but I fear it's too little too late.

One way or another, that's either poor planning or poor checking. Might be too little too late to get ahead of Red Bull/Ferrari/Mercedes but they can probably salvage fourth in the constructors.

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Track is 46 degrees. :blink:

Pitstops galore coming up then presumably.

[GP]

mostly 3 stops, I would think

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Happy 200th Webber. Surprised Vettel wasn't invited. Or rather, just took the knife off of Mark from behind. :ninja:

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Formation lap underway.

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Bit of a brave move from Rosberg to cut off Vettel there, Alonso ahead of Vettel now!

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Vettel takes second back! What a move.

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Rosberg, Vettel and Alonso. :lol:

So close between them.

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Vettel now leads! Great driving, he'll have to defend against DRS now though.

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Alonso ahead of Rosberg now.

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Button and Perez are up to 7th and 8th respectively.

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Di Resta up to third. :blink:

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Alonso has his DRS open going in to a corner. :haha:

That can't be good.

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It has gone again, even after pitting, he's going to have to not use DRS throughout the whole race, unless they decide it is unsafe.

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Alonso has had to pit again in fact. That has completely knackered his race.

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Pic annihilated Vergne's car. :lol:

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Di Resta in second. :bow:

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Button ahead of Rosberg!

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Rosberg, Button and Massa having a tear-up.

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Vettel now passes Raikkonen! Having a bit of a stormer. Raikkonen still has to pit.

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Massa has to pit to try and fix his tyres.

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Button ahead of Rosberg again, this time for third.

Button is having a great race.

Finally found the right thread this time.

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Perez, Button and Rosberg going for the same position. :lol:

So many times today there have been three cars in bunches.

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Vettel pits from the lead and comes back out in the lead.

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Metallica are there in the pit lane apparently. :haha:

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Button and Perez. :bow:

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Very close from Perez, lost a bit of his front wing.

:doh:

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Button and Perez are still going at it!

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Raikkonen up to second ahead of Di Resta.

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Oh look, Button and Perez scrapping again. Alonso gets in ahead of Button though!

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And now Alonso is ahead of Perez.

Four stops for certain drivers, like Button.

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Hamilton passes Webber!

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Webber takes it back though. :lol:

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Alonso nearly off the track fighting with Perez!

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Hamilton back ahead of Webber! Great driving for numerous laps between those two.

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Vettel wins! Congrats to him. Raikkonen second, Grosjean third. Di Resta, Hamilton, Webber, Perez, Alonso, Rosberg and Button.

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Perez in fact finished ahead of Webber.

Great race from him.

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Did he? :lol:

Well done to him.

In general it was a good race, the winner was decided by the third lap but the rest of the field was interesting.

[GP]

Metallica are there in the pit lane apparently. :haha:

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Lars is looking old :lol:

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None of them are looking particularly spritely. :lol:

Lars does look the worst though. And he's younger than Kirk I think.