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WMUG
22-08-2013, 04:06 PM
35 years. Fuck.

GP
22-08-2013, 04:20 PM
Bradley?

Letters
22-08-2013, 04:39 PM
"I am Chelsea Manning," Pte First Class Manning, 25, said in a statement to NBC's Today programme. "I am a female."

:lol:

No. No you're not.

WMUG
22-08-2013, 04:43 PM
People can choose their names. Anyway, not what this thread's about.

McNamara That Ghost...
22-08-2013, 04:44 PM
He might want to think about changing his surname then.

Letters
22-08-2013, 04:50 PM
He might want to think about changing his surname then.

:haha:

Letters
22-08-2013, 04:51 PM
People can choose their names. Anyway, not what this thread's about.
They can't choose their gender though.
You'll be saying people choose their sexuality next.
Homophobe
:sulk:

GP
22-08-2013, 04:55 PM
They can't choose their gender though.
You'll be saying people choose their sexuality next.
Homophobe
:sulk:

:goodpost:

Born a man, die a man. The end.

WMUG
22-08-2013, 04:56 PM
"I am Chelsea Manning," Pte First Class Manning, 25, said in a statement to NBC's Today programme. "I am a female."

:lol:

No. No you're not.He/she/gender non-specific pronoun has also been sentenced to 35 years in prison for exposing the killing of civilians and first responders by the US military. (Sorry to sound so middle-class student-outragey, but I tried to put it in as dry terms as possible).

I'd rather discuss that, tbh.

Letters
22-08-2013, 05:15 PM
He/she/gender non-specific pronoun has also been sentenced to 35 years in prison for exposing the killing of civilians and first responders by the US military. (Sorry to sound so middle-class student-outragey, but I tried to put it in as dry terms as possible).

I'd rather discuss that, tbh.
Are you new here?

GP
22-08-2013, 05:18 PM
No chance of that I'm afraid.

35 years for being a tranny sounds fair.

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 07:01 PM
Thought it was about Big Man at Chelsea, this thread

Shaqiri Is Boss
22-08-2013, 07:22 PM
Thought it was about Big Man at Chelsea, this thread

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become Coney.

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 07:25 PM
Coney is my hero

Shaqiri Is Boss
22-08-2013, 07:26 PM
And a boyhood Liverpool fan.

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 07:53 PM
And a boyhood Liverpool fan.

I chose the wrong team back in 1990

Master Splinter
22-08-2013, 08:00 PM
I chose the wrong team back in 1990

Agreed.

I would have liked to see you on RAWK.

"Lucas is pointless".

Banned.

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 08:01 PM
Agreed.

I would have liked to see you on RAWK.

"Lucas is pointless".

Banned.
Can't be as bad as AHFC.

Fat one in girls aloud is fat.

Banned

Master Splinter
22-08-2013, 08:09 PM
AHFC?

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 08:17 PM
After Hours football club

Whenever 606 closed for the night at 10pm, that's where most went hence after hours.

After 606 died, some became permanent there. I found GW and thus has become the best forum in the world at what it does

Niall_Quinn
22-08-2013, 08:19 PM
The fascist scum wanted 60 years as an example to truth tellers everywhere.

But I thought about this another way. What percentage of people actually want to know the truth about their government? A small percentage I would think, probably very small. So if a whistleblower feels the urge to inform the public he should also think about the fact that most don't give a fuck anyway. These government pigs only exist because complacent people tolerate them. You could say the majority has expressed overwhelming apathy and therefore the government agenda is valid, even when criminal. It's a sad state of affairs. Most consign this sort of stuff to the conspiracy theory bin despite the fact US Presidents, Kennedy and Eisenhower being key examples, have issued open warnings. It's right under people's noses and the fact they don't react is as good as endorsement. Manning is outvoted and so goes to jail.

Master Splinter
22-08-2013, 09:01 PM
After Hours football club

Whenever 606 closed for the night at 10pm, that's where most went hence after hours.

After 606 died, some became permanent there. I found GW and thus has become the best forum in the world at what it does

Who's the fat on in Girls Aloud? The Irish one?

And was it GB who banned you?

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 09:05 PM
Kimberley

No, GB only started to have a problem with me for some reason on here

Xhaka Can’t
22-08-2013, 09:08 PM
It was not.

It was however me who put the case for wiping the slate clean when we moved to the new site.

GP
22-08-2013, 10:16 PM
It was not.

It was however me who put the case for wiping the slate clean when we moved to the new site.

What a mistake-a to make-a

Xhaka Can’t
22-08-2013, 10:40 PM
Nobodies prefect.

V-Pig
22-08-2013, 11:14 PM
The fascist scum wanted 60 years as an example to truth tellers everywhere.

But I thought about this another way. What percentage of people actually want to know the truth about their government? A small percentage I would think, probably very small. So if a whistleblower feels the urge to inform the public he should also think about the fact that most don't give a fuck anyway. These government pigs only exist because complacent people tolerate them. You could say the majority has expressed overwhelming apathy and therefore the government agenda is valid, even when criminal. It's a sad state of affairs. Most consign this sort of stuff to the conspiracy theory bin despite the fact US Presidents, Kennedy and Eisenhower being key examples, have issued open warnings. It's right under people's noses and the fact they don't react is as good as endorsement. Manning is outvoted and so goes to jail.

Pretty much. Apathy rules.

Fair play to Chelsea though. Especially considering the transphobic cruelty of the USA.

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 11:19 PM
No idea who he/she/it is. Don't care. What a freak wants to do is up to them

Read the freak has something to do with Wikipedia.

Wikipedia :bow:

WMUG
22-08-2013, 11:24 PM
The fascist scum wanted 60 years as an example to truth tellers everywhere.

But I thought about this another way. What percentage of people actually want to know the truth about their government? A small percentage I would think, probably very small. So if a whistleblower feels the urge to inform the public he should also think about the fact that most don't give a fuck anyway. These government pigs only exist because complacent people tolerate them. You could say the majority has expressed overwhelming apathy and therefore the government agenda is valid, even when criminal. It's a sad state of affairs. Most consign this sort of stuff to the conspiracy theory bin despite the fact US Presidents, Kennedy and Eisenhower being key examples, have issued open warnings. It's right under people's noses and the fact they don't react is as good as endorsement. Manning is outvoted and so goes to jail.

:gp:

I do think people are slowly becoming more aware, though that just may be my skewed perspective. I doubt Manning will actually serve the full 35, probably be released for good behaviour, but the trend is set. Comply or be crushed.

And to think that people think Snowden should return for a fair trial :lol:

WMUG
22-08-2013, 11:26 PM
No idea who he/she/it is. Don't care. What a freak wants to do is up to them

Read the freak has something to do with Wikipedia.

Wikipedia :bow:

Keeping up a front to appear more ignorant than you are in the hope that strangers on the internet will pay attention to you :bow:

Cripps_orig
22-08-2013, 11:28 PM
Not sure if that is you defending freaks or not.

Or a pop at me for not knowing who this person is which I don't.

Niall_Quinn
22-08-2013, 11:42 PM
Not sure if that is you defending freaks or not.

Or a pop at me for not knowing who this person is which I don't.

Hopefully you are Bradley Manning, because if you aren't it means you are potentially/ eventually the other guy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UFFkcCh-pCc

WMUG
22-08-2013, 11:44 PM
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_little_from_column_A,_a_little_from_column_B

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-08-2013, 09:40 AM
Do you not think he/she will be released and/or pardoned pretty soon though?

And yes it's pretty fucked up that someone exposing wrongdoing is punished whereas those who committed and carried out this wrongdoing walk free. Only the hard line government-can-do-no-wrong, not-illegal-if-the-president-does-it types will disagree with that. And internet WUMs looking for a reaction.

What's also quite shocking is how two low-level people, and in Manning's case someone with obvious emotional issues, can get their hands on this so-called secret data in the first place.

Marc Overmars
23-08-2013, 10:07 AM
Could someone summarise what this is about?

Xhaka Can’t
23-08-2013, 10:14 AM
We need our governments to stop the war on whistleblowers and take it to those who lie, torture and kill in our name. This will never happen though because the most corrupt and morally vacuous in our society have absolute power over us.

LDG
23-08-2013, 10:15 AM
Could someone summarise what this is about?

Some soldier bloke sold secrets to wikileaks, decided to become a he/she and now he/she has been put in a girly prison for 35 years.

Cripps_orig
23-08-2013, 10:18 AM
For becoming a she?

Finally some justice in the world

Letters
23-08-2013, 10:22 AM
Keeping up a front to appear more ignorant than you are in the hope that strangers on the internet will pay attention to you :bow:

I think he actually is that ignorant :shrug:

Marc Overmars
23-08-2013, 10:26 AM
For becoming a she?

Finally some justice in the world

Pretty much.

Sick fuck.

Letters
23-08-2013, 10:26 AM
If you're going to spend that long in jail it might as well be at a woman's one.
Excellent tactics tbh.

LDG
23-08-2013, 10:28 AM
If you're going to spend that long in jail it might as well be at a woman's one.
Excellent tactics tbh.

Hadn't thought of it like that.

I guess N_Q had it right all along. Girls changing rooms at the gym etc. :bow:

:laurenharries:

Letters
23-08-2013, 10:37 AM
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/celebrity-big-brother-2013-lauren-5767588

Prolly would, tbh.

Niall_Quinn
23-08-2013, 11:16 AM
We need our governments to stop the war on whistleblowers and take it to those who lie, torture and kill in our name. This will never happen though because the most corrupt and morally vacuous in our society have absolute power over us.

They don't have any power over us at all by default. We give it to them. It's a simple thing to take it back because we outnumber them and all their armies and thug coppers by an overwhelming ratio. It's the same thing with our football club. We could easily fuck them up and turf them out if we could get organised and didn't let their bullshit divide us. Fans fighting on the terraces - they love to see it because when we are fighting each other we aren't stepping on them. Same with the filthy, vile government, they love racism for example.

bignev
23-08-2013, 01:10 PM
They don't have any power over us at all by default. We give it to them. It's a simple thing to take it back because we outnumber them and all their armies and thug coppers by an overwhelming ratio. It's the same thing with our football club. We could easily fuck them up and turf them out if we could get organised and didn't let their bullshit divide us. Fans fighting on the terraces - they love to see it because when we are fighting each other we aren't stepping on them. Same with the filthy, vile government, they love racism for example.

Out of interest do you actually believe any of the stuff you post?

Niall_Quinn
23-08-2013, 03:28 PM
Out of interest do you actually believe any of the stuff you post?

It would be easy to take the bait on a question like that, but I won't. Only followers "believe in" or believe things.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 03:36 AM
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/bradleymanningposter_zpsbfb3d7b4.jpg