The Wish They Were All Dead Tory Cunt Thread

[Globalgunner]

Deranged is the new normal. The Russian collusion and Assad chemical diet of bullshit is the very definition of insanity. But that's what you see playing out in the mainstream media and our houses of parliament. It's not Alex Jones firing missiles into cities. It wouldn't be so bad had the whole plot line not been played out before in Iraq.

Being called insane by anyone who buys one piece of this hogwash and criminality is high praise indeed.

The system requires widespread stupidity. in fact its essential.

"Military grade" toxin that allows victims to drive around a bit, shop a bit, dine a bit, before not actually killing them?

Attack by the Syrian regime , that is followed within hours by Israeli retaliation on key military targets elsewhere?. How convenient

Retaliation by "Allies" on chemical factories that produce no toxic cloud at the said locations and no 3rd party collateral?Hmmm?

The system is designed to leave you so mortgaged and indebted to your eyeballs that you are not in any frame of mind to do anything else but nod complacently.

Ignorance is truly bliss

[Niall_Quinn]

The system requires widespread stupidity. in fact its essential.

"Military grade" toxin that allows victims to drive around a bit, shop a bit, dine a bit, before not actually killing them?

Attack by the Syrian regime , that is followed within hours by Israeli retaliation on key military targets elsewhere?. How convenient

Retaliation by "Allies" on chemical factories that produce no toxic cloud at the said locations and no 3rd party collateral?Hmmm?

The system is designed to leave you so mortgaged and indebted to your eyeballs that you are not in any frame of mind to do anything else but nod complacently.

Ignorance is truly bliss

We have maybe a couple of years left before computer techniques will allow every falsehood to become true, in real time. We're headed to a very bad place, fast. And the invasion of privacy thing, where you have nothing to hide so nothing to fear - that will ensure anyone stupid enough to believe in anti-establishment "conspiracy theories" can be identified and handled with maximum efficiency. Maybe they'll have a game show where compliant citizens can vote on sanctions for the unbelievers?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Deranged is the new normal. The Russian collusion and Assad chemical diet of bullshit is the very definition of insanity. But that's what you see playing out in the mainstream media and our houses of parliament. It's not Alex Jones firing missiles into cities. It wouldn't be so bad had the whole plot line not been played out before in Iraq.

Being called insane by anyone who buys one piece of this hogwash and criminality is high praise indeed.

Oh.

Maybe you would like to take the time to back up your assertion of me mentioning I’ve bought in to the so called ‘Allied’ attack on Syria?

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh.

Maybe you would like to take the time to back up your assertion of me mentioning I’ve bought in to the so called ‘Allied’ attack on Syria?

That's not the assertion.

Your silly fallback to a tired old tactic is the complaint.

Anyone who highlights the now blatant lies of the establishment becomes an Alex Jones fanboy by default. Before that it was David Icke, but he seems to have gone out of fashion.

But okay, you're right. You never did mention what (or if) you think.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Hang on pal. You said I bought in to it.

That’s an assertion.

So put up or shut the fuck up.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hang on pal. You said I bought in to it.

That’s an assertion.

So put up or shut the fuck up.

Nope.

I said "by anyone". But go ahead and include yourself if you want to.

A response to the "derangement" you brought up is what I "put up", so take that as me selecting your option 1 rather than option 2. In fact take it for granted I won't be shutting up.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-yba3R6IBY

[Xhaka Can’t]

You’re completely doing what you accuse others of doing by pretty much parroting Infowars.

And if you don’t think your style is on the Alex Jones scale, you should think again.

I know full well that what passes as “News” is in fact an editorial and that we are being fed what the owner of that editorial demands we believe.

Reading between the lines, Assad has his war won and is very close to achieving his endgame.

Consequently it makes no sense for him to use chemical weapons at this stage. Nor does it make sense for Putin to sanction the use of chemical weapons. Assad would definitely have had to get authorisation from Russia to launch such an attack.

He is Putin’s puppet now because without his support, Assad would have been alive and kicking today as much as Gadaffi.

As for the strikes themselves, the UK branch of the so-called “Allies” (who according to Boris Johnson, represent “the World “ despite being comprised of only 3 countries) could have hit Assad and the Syrians far harder and in a more meaningful way if they went after the Syrian investment bankers trading in London, two of whom are the fucking sons of the Syrian government’s chemical weapons chief! And while at that the UK government could also go after Assad’s father in law who is a cardiologist in Harley Street!

Hitting the powerful where it hurt would have been far more meaningful and effective than strikes compounding the misery of those who already have suffered and have nothing.

But they will never do that. If you’re rich, powerful and good at playing the game, it doesn’t matter if you’re Syrian, American, Russian, British or from Bumfucktu, they’re all in it together.

[Niall_Quinn]

You’re completely doing what you accuse others of doing by pretty much parroting Infowars.

And if you don’t think your style is on the Alex Jones scale, you should think again.

I know full well that what passes as “News” is in fact an editorial and that we are being fed what the owner of that editorial demands we believe.

Reading between the lines, Assad has his war won and is very close to achieving his endgame.

Consequently it makes no sense for him to use chemical weapons at this stage. Nor does it make sense for Putin to sanction the use of chemical weapons. Assad would definitely have had to get authorisation from Russia to launch such an attack.

He is Putin’s puppet now because without his support, Assad would have been alive and kicking today as much as Gadaffi.

As for the strikes themselves, the UK branch of the so-called “Allies” (who according to Boris Johnson, represent “the World “ despite being comprised of only 3 countries) could have hit Assad and the Syrians far harder and in a more meaningful way if they went after the Syrian investment bankers trading in London, two of whom are the fucking sons of the Syrian government’s chemical weapons chief! And while at that the UK government could also go after Assad’s father in law who is a cardiologist in Harley Street!

Hitting the powerful where it hurt would have been far more meaningful and effective than strikes compounding the misery of those who already have suffered and have nothing.

But they will never do that. If you’re rich, powerful and good at playing the game, it doesn’t matter if you’re Syrian, American, Russian, British or from Bumfucktu, they’re all in it together.

Okay. So we're both parroting infowars then, apparently, because most of what you said there is the same as what I've said.

Seriously though, what the hell does any of this have to do with Alex Jones?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Nope, I’ve scanned Infowars briefly and noticed a massive correlation (if ~100% can be classed as correlation) between what you say and what I saw there at that complete travesty of a ‘news’ source.

I had a lot of time on a 9 hour flight to think about and read between the lines on what is officially being put out by the respective governments and their go to press lackeys.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Seriously though, what the hell does any of this have to do with Alex Jones?

For some reason, I can’t put my finger on it, but I envisage you like this whenever you post on Arsenal related news.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mGw9mBVNUc

[Niall_Quinn]

For some reason, I can’t put my finger on it, but I envisage you like this whenever you post on Arsenal related news.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mGw9mBVNUc

:haha:

WTF are you on about? That's great. He's 100% right there. What bit don't you agree with? Didn't realise he'd gone x-rated but I approve wholeheartedly.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nope, I’ve scanned Infowars briefly and noticed a massive correlation (if ~100% can be classed as correlation) between what you say and what I saw there at that complete travesty of a ‘news’ source.

I had a lot of time on a 9 hour flight to think about and read between the lines on what is officially being put out by the respective governments and their go to press lackeys.

Off you go then. 100% is your target.

[Xhaka Can’t]

:haha:

WTF are you on about? That's great. He's 100% right there. What bit don't you agree with? Didn't realise he'd gone x-rated but I approve wholeheartedly.

It’s just how I envisage you when posting. Nothing more to it.

[Niall_Quinn]

It’s just how I envisage you when posting. Nothing more to it.

Jones business model is to trawl the alternative web for news, roll it into a show and sell vitamins. It's an act, a stage persona. But it doesn't detract in any way from the sources he digs up. Same with a whole bunch of the aggregator sites. Absolutely nothing wrong with it and the only reason he gets grief is because he's doing a much better job than the mainstream.

A mainstream which, trawls the newswires and "unnamed sources" (establishment propaganda mouthpieces), aggregates it and then tries to sell Mercedes Benz or Hollywood.

So if you claim infowars is a "travesty" then sure. But show me something that isn't.

There are a few guys standing up right now. I gave you one. Carlson. To stand in the face of the media crowd when the war drums are beating and the missiles flying, that's what a journalist is supposed to do. So how disgraceful is it when an opinion piece like Carslon has to do their job for them?

The real news comes from 2 sources.

What the politicians say, compared to what they do.

What the legal mob says, compares to what it does.

That's where you'll find the news.

All of it is spun. But all of it contains information that can be used to construct the facts. Or some of them. If you have a memory and an attention span.

More and more people are figuring this out and that's why we see Jones becoming prominent. His act corresponds to reality far more closely than the legacy media. That's how he makes his money. The legacy media could do it too if they weren't so hopelessly compromised.

And anyway, I don't watch Jones. Try David Knight. One of the best hosts out there.

[Letters]

What do you make of what's happening?

Honestly not sure what to make of it all but it's looking like quite the shitshow.

[Niall_Quinn]

I can't tell what's real and what's parody any more.

Literally, the mayor they interview is called Nutter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIoaZTq5jY

[GP]

Amber Rudd has resigned. :doh:

May needs to go.

And by 'go' I mean 'die'

[Cripps]

Labour 35674 - Tories 0

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Amber Rudd Greenlights exit.

[Cripps]

NQ :console:

[Niall_Quinn]

Amber Rudd has resigned. :doh:

May needs to go.

And by 'go' I mean 'die'

I keep telling you, resigned is not the same as dead.

This thread is about them being dead.

No more false alarms please.

[Letters]

Does this make the government Rudd-erless?


:cool:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's election night!

[Letters]

Tbh I'd completely forgotten about that.
Meh. May Out!

[Niall_Quinn]

It's election night!

Council elections?

Brown envelopes being counted. The property developers have spoken.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Labour have stormed in to a 5-3 lead.

It’s all over now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Labour are winning 1,390 - 836.

[Niall_Quinn]

That means at least 2226 saps have fallen for the voting thing. AGAIN! :doh:

Jesus! How dumb can you get?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Me. :bow:

Dumb and a proper bastard.

[Letters]

Labour are winning 1,390 - 836.

Sounds like a Liverpool vs Arsenal game


Also. Trump :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Sounds like a Liverpool vs Arsenal game


Also. Trump :doh:

Trump what? Or is it just a spasm by this stage?

[Xhaka Can’t]

The deal with Iran has a lot of faults and I can see why the US has pulled out. That said, it may have been better to have worked towards negotiating an improvement.

[Goonermerree]

The deal with Iran has a lot of faults and I can see why the US has pulled out. That said, it may have been better to have worked towards negotiating an improvement.

Now there's a touch of deja vu

[Niall_Quinn]

Unfortunately Trump has followed down that tired old route of Israel First. There was a moment there where it looked like he might put America first. But it passed.

[Globalgunner]

A constant state of war is whats best for the shareholders unfortunately. The Israel lobby have their hands up each president`s ass and work the lips from there

[Letters]

Trump pulls out of the Korea thingy. Looking forward to the ensuing flame war on Twitter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44242558

[GP]

Trump pulls out of the Korea thingy. Looking forward to the ensuing flame war on Twitter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44242558

Really earning that peace prize he demanded.

[Letters]

One could argue that had he sorted out the Korea think he'd have earned one.
Now...not so much.

[Niall_Quinn]

We've already seen what happened in Syria. You might think the loony left would place some value on peace with North Korea, but they have more pressing priorities. It's quite pathetic.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Robinson case is scarcely believable. The brazenness of it. The authoritarians imagine they are now so in control and we are all so utterly defeated they can practise their Soviet and Nazi style policies in broad daylight. And I think they are right.

[Niall_Quinn]

Rotherham and Gomorrah. Just how widespread is pedophilia in this country? If the government has its way, you'll never know.

Only the most determined refuse to notice the longstanding propensity for kiddy fiddling by the British establishment classes. All of that seems untouchable. But now we have an epidemic of Muslim gangs molesting kids. Would it be okay to do something about that?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The Robinson case is scarcely believable. The brazenness of it. The authoritarians imagine they are now so in control and we are all so utterly defeated they can practise their Soviet and Nazi style policies in broad daylight. And I think they are right.

Fuck him.

[Letters]

Fuck him.

NQ probably would

http://newsthump.com/2018/05/27/if-you-dont-like-obeying-our-laws-then-you-should-get-out-of-our-country-tommy-robinson-told/

[Niall_Quinn]

Fuck him.

Missing the point. But it won't miss you.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We won't miss him.

[Niall_Quinn]

We won't miss him.

How about your legal system and the protections you allegedly have? Will you miss that? Or the media's right to report news? By focusing on the person involved you are completely missing the point and the threat.

[GP]

Tommy Robinson (if that is his real name) ((it isn't)) is a cunt.

Hope he rots.

[Letters]

First they came for the cunts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a cunt.
Fin.

[Niall_Quinn]

“And like blots upon the landscape rose the cupolas above the ways to the Underworld. I understood now what all the beauty of the Upperworld people covered. Very pleasant was their day, as pleasant as the day of the cattle in the eld. Like the cattle, they knew of no enemies and provided against no needs. And their end was the same.”
― H.G. Wells, The Time Machine

[Letters]

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nick-clegg-the-brexiteers-are-right-to-panic/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

Brexit :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

The weasel Clegg. Amazing some people still allow him an ounce of credibility. Politician's worst maggot, still sliming his way across news pages. He, like so many, showed his true colours when democracy actually arrived in this country. The ever fearful and infant minded dependant types who crave to be directed and dictated to can be forgiven, to some degree, for their fear and their self loathing, but nobody can be forgiven for giving credence to Nick Clegg. How much more vividly would he have to display his nature before it became too embarrassing for the anti-democrats to reject him as a spokesmaggot?

[GP]

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nick-clegg-the-brexiteers-are-right-to-panic/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

Brexit :lol:

It's so depressing.

They just need to cancel it.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's meant to be depressing. Painting imaginary doom and gloom scenarios hot on the heels of disasters that never happened is all the quislings in the pocket of the Eurocrats have left. They can't address the real issues because the vast majority of English (if not British) people are directly opposed. Sovereignty and immigration. And when you consider the whole weight of the establishment mercilessly propagandised for submersion into a super state, it really was a landslide defeat for these fifth columnists. But, as you see, it makes no difference to them. The people speaking is the thing that irritates and inconveniences them most of all. How dare they interrupt their master's voice.

[GP]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/gavin-williamson-cut-off-on-live-gmb-performance-after-angry-row-with-richard-madeley-a3849896.html

:lol:

[Letters]

He is getting more and more Alan Partridge :lol:
But I'm on his side on this one.

Did you threaten to over-rule him...just answer the question you ****, it's a yes or no question!

[Cripps]

Tommy Robinson:haha:

NQ :haha: :haha:

[Goonermerree]

It's meant to be depressing. Painting imaginary doom and gloom scenarios hot on the heels of disasters that never happened is all the quislings in the pocket of the Eurocrats have left. They can't address the real issues because the vast majority of English (if not British) people are directly opposed. Sovereignty and immigration. And when you consider the whole weight of the establishment mercilessly propagandised for submersion into a super state, it really was a landslide defeat for these fifth columnists. But, as you see, it makes no difference to them. The people speaking is the thing that irritates and inconveniences them most of all. How dare they interrupt their master's voice.

I have to agree with you, democracy is great as long as the unelected egotistical maniacs are getting what they want, reverse that and they show their true colours. Austria and Italy are both going against the EU, I wonder how that will go down?

[Niall_Quinn]

I have to agree with you, democracy is great as long as the unelected egotistical maniacs are getting what they want, reverse that and they show their true colours. Austria and Italy are both going against the EU, I wonder how that will go down?

The EU is finished but it won't go quietly. The bureaucrats reach exceeded their grasp and they invited the Eastern Europeans into the fold. Unfortunately for the dictators, Eastern Europeans are fresh out from under the weight of the last great failure of communism, the Soviet Union. Hungarians and Poles can easily understand what the European Union is all about. They have seen it before. They have lived it before. These are the citizens on the frontline, ironically now fighting for the liberty of the Dutch, Italian, Irish, German and the UK noisy minority that has little clue or concern about the EU beyond what it means for holiday exchange rates or the ability to nip across the Channel for cheap booze. However painful it is to admit for the pro-Europeans (who can't state a single convincing reason in favour of further centralisation - just ask them and they'll call you a racist and run away), the sentiments from the east are emerging in Western European populations. I mean, didn't our ancestors fight a world war to prevent a German led super state from imposing its authoritarian agenda? The more things change the more they stay the same. As always, the bureaucrats will subvert and bypass every effort made by people to direct their own lives and futures. Lost elections will be re-run. Where re-runs are not available, more subtle methods will be used, as with the dilution of Brexit. These are the hallmarks of the arrogant, smug and superior elites who genuinely believe they have the right to dictate what's best for everyone else. But their time is running out. They know it, which is why their mask has slipped and they can be seen more clearly for what they are. Nasty little authoritarians cut from the same cloth as power tripped goose-steppers from past European history.

[GP]

I have to agree with you, democracy is great as long as the unelected egotistical maniacs are getting what they want, reverse that and they show their true colours. Austria and Italy are both going against the EU, I wonder how that will go down?

Oh dear :doh:

[Letters]

The trouble with democracy is people are bloody idiots.
There should be a test before you can vote.
If you're going to vote for Brexit because of the "bloody Frogs" then you're an idiot, you don't get a vote.
And, for balance, if you're going to vote to Remain because you think the sky will fall in if we leave then you don't either.

As for the "dilution" of Brexit. There was nothing to dilute. What did Leave say Brexit meant? Apart from lies like an extra £350m a week for the NHS.
No-one knew what Brexit actually meant, it was a vote against something, not for anything. There wasn't anything on the table from either side to vote for.

[Cripps]

Brexit :haha:

[Syn]

Talked to many esteemed researchers far more knowledgable than myself and with no political bias; all state Brexit was a stupid decision. If it were up to me, organisations like the IFS would be running the country. Enough brain power there to nail every major policy decision.

Tommy Robinson? lol. His supporters are in awe of him because he can string a few sentences together. The lad's thick as shit and so are his supporters.

[Goonermerree]

The trouble with democracy is people are bloody idiots.
There should be a test before you can vote.
If you're going to vote for Brexit because of the "bloody Frogs" then you're an idiot, you don't get a vote.
And, for balance, if you're going to vote to Remain because you think the sky will fall in if we leave then you don't either.

As for the "dilution" of Brexit. There was nothing to dilute. What did Leave say Brexit meant? Apart from lies like an extra £350m a week for the NHS.
No-one knew what Brexit actually meant, it was a vote against something, not for anything. There wasn't anything on the table from either side to vote for.

Let's all live under a dictator then, we won't have to worry about voting.

[Niall_Quinn]

The trouble with democracy is people are bloody idiots.
There should be a test before you can vote.
If you're going to vote for Brexit because of the "bloody Frogs" then you're an idiot, you don't get a vote.
And, for balance, if you're going to vote to Remain because you think the sky will fall in if we leave then you don't either.

As for the "dilution" of Brexit. There was nothing to dilute. What did Leave say Brexit meant? Apart from lies like an extra £350m a week for the NHS.
No-one knew what Brexit actually meant, it was a vote against something, not for anything. There wasn't anything on the table from either side to vote for.

The deceit. Or self delusion.

Brexit was about sovereignty. That's why it was raised, that's why it ever made it to the referendum stage. Not because the British people demanded it (although many did), but because the politicos were squeezed into a corner on issues they couldn't possibly answer so decided to rig a referendum instead. Even then, they lost.

The Remain lot had zero argument. Absolutely nothing (correct me if I'm wrong). All they did was equate nationalism to racism. And if some people did vote for independence because they "hate the frogs", so what? Serious question. What makes you sanctimonious Remainers so bloody confident of your second hand arguments, considering the shit state every one of your policies has led to. A real debate has you running to the propaganda pile for the latest government statistics. The Gospel according to the Gullible.

Plenty also voted for the foreign power because they got cheaper holidays. But most Remainers voted as they did because they couldn't be arsed to dig into the fundamental issues and instead gorged themselves with the propaganda. The utterly failed Euro super state project, transformed into a string of euphemisms and sold in the most Orwelian terms. Peace as war. Prosperity as servitude. Liberty as a litany of centralised directives.

So sure, if there's a test before you can vote I guess question #1 ought to ask if you'll defend your nation over the interests of a foreign power. Wasn't so long ago every British citizen has to answer that question in one way or another. And if the answer is no, then at least don't agitate for the foreign power.

Supremacy of the laws set down by a foreign power over the laws of the nation is the definition of dilution and the remedy being sought by fifth columnists at this very moment to subvert the democratic process. The twisting and turning in the debate will do anything to avoid this basic issue. The issue that underpinned Brexit. The nerve of these cunts, trying to dictate the terms under which we can tell them to fuck off. Their Fourth Reich falls when the UK leaves and they know it. So the UK will be allowed to leave in name only.

[Niall_Quinn]

Talked to many esteemed researchers far more knowledgable than myself and with no political bias; all state Brexit was a stupid decision. If it were up to me, organisations like the IFS would be running the country. Enough brain power there to nail every major policy decision.

Tommy Robinson? lol. His supporters are in awe of him because he can string a few sentences together. The lad's thick as shit and so are his supporters.

There are people out protesting who know fuck all about Robinson and don't care to know, because they realise he's not the central issue. It's what happened after his arrest that should have people worried.

[Niall_Quinn]

Talked to many esteemed researchers far more knowledgable than myself and with no political bias; all state Brexit was a stupid decision. If it were up to me, organisations like the IFS would be running the country. Enough brain power there to nail every major policy decision.

Tommy Robinson? lol. His supporters are in awe of him because he can string a few sentences together. The lad's thick as shit and so are his supporters.

Did they ever speak about how stupid it was to get tied up in it in the first place? As Arsenal fans we of all people know that sometimes you have to step back to regain the ability to go forwards. Corporate beneficiaries rigging the economy so the masses suffer pain if they don't play along is not a reasonable excuse for relinquishing sovereignty, cultural identity and ultimately liberty. Get yourself out of the mess, then deal with the riders on the gravy train later.

[Niall_Quinn]

Let's all live under a dictator then, we won't have to worry about voting.

Well plainly nobody has to worry too much about voting. As a form of theatre, a change in pace and mild entertainment once every 5 years or once in a blue moon should a referendum crop up, sure. It's a bit of fun. But don't expect to influence anything. Just hope the will of the people happens to coincide with the demands of the establishment. That way we can at least enjoy the illusion. And many do.

[Letters]

Let's all live under a dictator then, we won't have to worry about voting.

Yeah. Or, you could respond to what I actually said rather than straw manning the shit out of it.
Why are the only two options "everyone gets a vote" or "live under a dictator"? This is exactly the sort of black and white unable to think in any shades of grey bullshit which makes Arsenal debate so crappy.
The principle of democracy sounds great. One man (or woman, I suppose), one vote. And in an election...who really knows who is going to best represent us, to an extent one option is as good (or bad) as another. But in a referendum on a complicated topic, it would be nice to think that people have actually thought about the issues at hand.
If you need medical advice what do you do, start a poll on Facebook and see what your mates think or talk to some doctors?

Brexit is a complicated issue. If we did get to the right decision then it will be because a load of people believed a bus, not wise analysis of all the issues from a discerning British public.
Your mates might get the medical treatment right, given 2 options, but if they did it would be dumb luck, not because they know what they're talking about,

[Goonermerree]

Yeah. Or, you could respond to what I actually said rather than straw manning the shit out of it.
Why are the only two options "everyone gets a vote" or "live under a dictator"? This is exactly the sort of black and white unable to think in any shades of grey bullshit which makes Arsenal debate so crappy.
The principle of democracy sounds great. One man (or woman, I suppose), one vote. And in an election...who really knows who is going to best represent us, to an extent one option is as good (or bad) as another. But in a referendum on a complicated topic, it would be nice to think that people have actually thought about the issues at hand.
If you need medical advice what do you do, start a poll on Facebook and see what your mates think or talk to some doctors?

Brexit is a complicated issue. If we did get to the right decision then it will be because a load of people believed a bus, not wise analysis of all the issues from a discerning British public.
Your mates might get the medical treatment right, given 2 options, but if they did it would be dumb luck, not because they know what they're talking about,

I don't think people did vote because of a bus, they voted for sovereignty mostly. They'd already thought about the issues and knew what they wanted.

[Letters]

Brexit was about sovereignty.

That was one part of the argument and I actually bought the sovereignty argument, for a while.
Then I realised that we were already sovereign, that's why to leave the EU we only had to write a letter, not go to war.

To say there is zero argument to remain is as stupid and simplistic as saying there was zero argument to leave. The EU is a club, one we chose to join. There is a certain cost of joining and certain drawbacks, there are certain benefits. Whether the benefits are worth the drawbacks and cost are what the debate was about - or should have been. Instead it was about how much more money we'd have to spend on the NHS when we leave (lie) and how we'd be able to control immigration (probable lie) and how the sky would fall in if we leave (lie).
There was no intelligent debate going on.


And if some people did vote for independence because they "hate the frogs", so what?
So that's a stupid reason to make a decision about a complicated topic. And if they voted Remain because they thought the economy would completely collapse if we left that that was a stupid reason too.

Why do you keep pretending that complicated arguments are simple?

[Letters]

I don't think people did vote because of a bus, they voted for sovereignty mostly. They'd already thought about the issues and knew what they wanted.
I think you're giving people too much credit.
And as I said to NQ, we are sovereign. Any power delegated to the EU was given voluntarily and can be taken back.
If we weren't sovereign we'd have had to go to war to get out, not have a referendum.

[Goonermerree]

I think you're giving people too much credit.
And as I said to NQ, we are sovereign. Any power delegated to the EU was given voluntarily and can be taken back.
If we weren't sovereign we'd have had to go to war to get out, not have a referendum.

I'm not sure we could following the Lisbon treaty.

[Coney]

I'm not sure we could following the Lisbon treaty.

Yes, we could at any time. There is NO way the EU can force or would force a country to stay. They will not make it easy, of course - they would be mad to make it easy - but they cannot stop it.

[GP]

I don't think people did vote because of a bus

Of course they did. I know people that did. People still think the NHS is going to get more money.

[Letters]

I also know of people who voted to leave as a "protest", not really thinking leave would win.
People are fucking idiots.

[Niall_Quinn]

That was one part of the argument and I actually bought the sovereignty argument, for a while.
Then I realised that we were already sovereign, that's why to leave the EU we only had to write a letter, not go to war.

To say there is zero argument to remain is as stupid and simplistic as saying there was zero argument to leave. The EU is a club, one we chose to join. There is a certain cost of joining and certain drawbacks, there are certain benefits. Whether the benefits are worth the drawbacks and cost are what the debate was about - or should have been. Instead it was about how much more money we'd have to spend on the NHS when we leave (lie) and how we'd be able to control immigration (probable lie) and how the sky would fall in if we leave (lie).
There was no intelligent debate going on.


So that's a stupid reason to make a decision about a complicated topic. And if they voted Remain because they thought the economy would completely collapse if we left that that was a stupid reason too.

Why do you keep pretending that complicated arguments are simple?

Yes, the public voted to leave. So let's do that then. It would prove your point, wouldn't it? Which is precisely why the politicians, corporateers and establishment non-elects are bypassing the public vote and making plans to re-commit to the supremacy of European law on some of the most important issues, even though we'll allegedly be outside the EU. The "leaving" is cosmetic.

The sovereignty issue isn't just about the EU either. Multinationals with their preferable treaties that prioritise profits and socialise costs, that subvert the law by applying supra-national and non-negotiable treaties is another sovereignty issue that has to be fought and won. This fuck up of a government committed the nation to horrendous treaties that are entirely designed to benefit a few elitists at the expense of the British public.

All of this shit has to go.

You can't have liberty when power is concentrated into fewer hands. That's a very easy concept to understand. There are no benefits (imagined or otherwise) to centralising power over 400 million people into a politburo.

As for the extreme arrogance of deciding who may or may not participate in a democracy, this is very indicative of the Eurocentric attitude. A ladder of elitism with the next rung up more worthy than the one below and all context, circumstance and extenuation boiled down into the simple black and white you profess to disdain.

If people want to vote because they "hate frogs" then that is a perfectly legitimate vote. You may not agree with the sentiment but you cannot say they don't have an opinion. Their opinion is no less worthy than a fool who would throw away liberty for cheap foreign currency and ease of consumption.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, we could at any time. There is NO way the EU can force or would force a country to stay. They will not make it easy, of course - they would be mad to make it easy - but they cannot stop it.

The EU is not some adversary in this matter, in terms of the vermin that constitutes it. We have Europhiles in the UK "negotiating" with Europhiles in Brussels. It's not about leaving or staying. And all of this is second hand, with lobbyists and corporations feeding through the talking points. It's about manufacturing the appearance of a departure. If they are successful then they'd better hope the vast majority of people are stupid.

[Niall_Quinn]

I also know of people who voted to leave as a "protest", not really thinking leave would win.
People are fucking idiots.

You underestimate the reality of this in the hope of picking up a few stray sorries from people you think are stupid anyway, so why pay attention if they change their stupid minds? Do they become clever once they agree with you?

The entire establishment in Britain and in Europe have poured an avalanche of propaganda and lies on their captive audiences for decades. The media has been dutifully pulled by the nose through every obscene step to superstate. As was calculated before the referendum was ever sanctioned - Leave had no chance whatsoever. Every factor was stacked high against them. David versus Goliath. A sure bet. Only then, after years of rejection, did they feel confident enough to ask the people what they felt about this foregone conclusion.

Of course, politicians being stupid, ignorant, corrupt and arrogant cunts, they consider "the people" to be talking heads in think (sic) tanks or old buffers in boardrooms. Pollsters and pundits. Media whores and loud mouthed celebrities. And so David knocked Goliath the fuck out. It was never supposed to happen but it happened nonetheless. And now you have Remainers running around demanding we count again until we get the right answer. Or adding up the views of a couple of guys down the pub who were made feel guilty by Goliath's press machine.

The vast majority of people aren't idiots. They may be prejudiced, they may be uneducated, they may be brainwashed, misdirected, they may suffer environmental problems that cloud their judgement. It's the politicians who are idiots. Constantly lying to people and then demanding they make informed choices. People know how to live their own lives and they know what suits them. Politicians have no fucking idea what real life is.

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/05/29/roseanne-barr-appointed-white-house-press-officer/

:lol:

[GP]

Freeze peach

[Niall_Quinn]

Props to local newspapers who challenged the tinpot regime and forced them to back down over the Robinson gagging order. Of course the media "big boys" obliged without question when their right to report was removed under the outrageous pretence of national security.

Now the judge needs to be arrested and put on trial for the most egregious abuse of power since anything the royals have ever done. The fucker even admitted he hadn't reviewed the evidence and that his summary judgement had nothing to do with Robinson's suspended sentence. Who the fuck does this guy (in a wig and fancy dress) think he is?

Another shameful chapter for the mainstream media (fake news) that submitted like a paid bitch when so ordered. Not surprising really, given mainstream media is a paid bitch.

[Cripps]

Who does the guy in the wig think he is? Someone that can spot a right wing, racist thug and jails him :good:

[Niall_Quinn]

Who does the guy in the wig think he is? Someone that can spot a right wing, racist thug and jails him :good:

And yet it took a "right wing, racist thug" to help the guy in the wig spot a bunch of Islamic rapist pedophiles. So pros and cons, yes?

[Cripps]

:doh:

Reporting on the case would have jeopardised the trial because it would have prejudiced the jury. He reported on it. He is in jail :shrug:

[Niall_Quinn]

:doh:

Reporting on the case would have jeopardised the trial because it would have prejudiced the jury. He reported on it. He is in jail :shrug:

The trial only came about because Robinson, and others before and after him, exposed the scale of the Muslim grooming and rape gangs. Prior to that the whole issue was brushed under the carpet. And still, even as naysayers and apologists like Jeremy Paxman and the BBC are being proven catastrophically wrong, the establishment goes to extreme lengths to try to downplay the scandal. You can watch Robinson being interviewed by Paxman in 2011, pathetically pleading, "But whites do this too, but whites do this too."

Robinson is off the streets because what he has to say has substance and plenty of support from communities that are fed up with certain sections of the Islamic community and their barbaric practices and beliefs. He may not be the most palatable figure in terms of his wider views (which have of course been conflated by the biased fake news mainstream media). He may attract certain types that we can all agree are as unsavoury as they come. But his views on hardline Islamists and their criminal and inhuman practices are supported by evidence and, thanks in part to Robinson, are now being tackled in courts like the one he was arrested OUTSIDE. Naturally he couldn't have prejudiced the jury. But he does pose a threat to the establishment and exposure of the disaster caused by their policies. Which is why he's now in jail.

And anyone supporting the government and it's authoritarian bullshit simply because they don't like Robinson, or can't be bothered to find out any of the details, could best be described as a self harming fool. Or a useful idiot to the establishment and the Muslim crime gangs.

[Cripps]

The Jay Report reported about the 1,400 children in Rotherham and since then more have been unearthed and people jailed. So I don't know why you seem to hold Tommy Robinson as some sort of messiah in terms of unearthing scandals when the Jay Report was the catalyst. If anything Thuggy Robinson is harming investigations and potentially jeopardising convictions, but your little right wing brain can't get your head around that :console:

Secondly, regarding your point 'but his views on hardline Islamists and their criminal and inhuman practices are supported by evidence', you make it sound as if Thuggy Robinson focuses purely on extremists and terrorists. If he did that people would not disagree with him, but since he left the EDL he has gone all out attack on muslims. That's completely different.

Thirdly, 'Robinson is off the streets because what he has to say has substance and plenty of support from communities'. Wrong. He is in jail because he's a convicted criminal thug that broke the law again whilst being on a suspended sentence :good:

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah. October 2013 was when the Jay Inquiry was commissioned. So a little more homework beyond the fake news media might help you out on timings.

Robinson speaks out against Muslims who follow the 7th century teachings of the Koran and those who want to install Sharia "law" in civilised nations.

And every political prisoner broke the law. Didn't they? These laws are allowed to exist because good men do nothing. Bad men and fools do nothing either, except maybe cheer their own demise.

Easy Meat by Peter McLoughlin will help you extend your "facts" beyond Rotherham and into the wider epidemic that would still be concealed to this day were it not for many groups and individuals, including Robinson, standing up and objecting to the more detestable aspects of Islam and Sharia "law", a system that was ruled to be incompatible with democracy and human rights by the European Court of Human Rights, as I'm sure you recall.

[Cripps]

A guy that detests the EU using the EU in his argument :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

A guy that detests the EU using the EU in his argument :lol:

Precisely. Even your alien court can't abide Sharia.

I assume we've completely changed the subject now?

[Cripps]

Yeah you went into some tangent philosophical rant like you usually do when you lose an argument :shrug:

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah you went into some tangent philosophical rant like you usually do when you lose an argument :shrug:

And back to the WUM. How dull.

[Cripps]

Don't turn all Letters on me :lol:

[Letters]

:blink:

[Xhaka Can’t]

The EU is not some adversary in this matter, in terms of the vermin that constitutes it. We have Europhiles in the UK "negotiating" with Europhiles in Brussels. It's not about leaving or staying. And all of this is second hand, with lobbyists and corporations feeding through the talking points. It's about manufacturing the appearance of a departure. If they are successful then they'd better hope the vast majority of people are stupid.

Well they’re in luck!

[Letters]

What do we make of all this Trum/Kim Jong Un stuff then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44435035

Have to say, Trump might have pulled off quite a coup here.

[GP]

Remains to be seen.

They finished their nuclear testing program, and their test site literally collapsed in on itself, so promising no more tests isn't much of a concession.

[GP]

"They have great beaches," President Trump said during a news conference after his meeting with Kim Jong-un. "You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said boy look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?"

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44450739

Have to say if he's done what he's claiming (which is never something one should take for granted) then credit where it's due.
I'm quite impressed :blink:
It's like Welbeck just scored a hat trick against Germany, impressed with a side-dish of wtf just happened? :blink:

[GP]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44450739

Have to say if he's done what he's claiming (which is never something one should take for granted) then credit where it's due.
I'm quite impressed :blink:
It's like Welbeck just scored a hat trick against Germany, impressed with a side-dish of wtf just happened? :blink:

It's more like Welbeck saying he's going to score a hattrick.

[Letters]

:lol: Maybe.

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKE9IEGXUAERgHO.jpg

That's actually quite good.

[Letters]

:lol: That IS quite good!
He is objectively funny, just not sure that's a great qualification for the job he's in.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44504656

Political correctness gone mad :sulk:

You won't be able to put hidden cameras in girls school changing rooms next <_<

[GP]

Over my dead body

[GP]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/22/airbus-plans-uk-cuts-amid-fears-of-hard-brexit-impact

:doh:

[Letters]

No downside to Brexit :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/22/airbus-plans-uk-cuts-amid-fears-of-hard-brexit-impact

:doh:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/philadelphia-phillies-baseball-fan-shot-12758347

Brexit :doh:



You fucking remoaner know nothing wankers just don't give up, do you?

Your little Hitler heroes just progressed another little fascist bill to take away your ability to pick your own nose without a licence. But boo, hoo, hoo, I understand fucking nothing but somebody told me we need to be aligned with these tinpot tossers - and I believe them!

How about a cup of shut the fuck up? And then grow a pair and realise it is actually possible to live your life without being handheld by a bunch of pedo fascists.

JHC. What a wanker.

[Niall_Quinn]

No downside to Brexit :bow:

Fucking performing seal. GP throws a fish and you honk.

Twat.

[Letters]

Grimey :bow:

:lol:

[Goonermerree]

We're going to end up with exactly what we have now being a member of the EU, but with no representative around the EU table. We have more bargaining power than scare mongers are saying, European countries would lose a lot not trading with the UK, Ireland does a lot of business with the UK.

Much as I don't like May or this Government, the majority voted to leave the Eu, and she is trying to make this happen. The unelected rulers of the EU know that they have all the bargaining chips here as Tory MP's, most Labour MP's and the SNP will vote against anything May proposes unless it's basically staying in the EU. They're just sitting back licking their lips.

[Cripps]

Brexit :haha:

[GP]

We're going to end up with exactly what we have now being a member of the EU, but with no representative around the EU table. We have more bargaining power than scare mongers are saying, European countries would lose a lot not trading with the UK, Ireland does a lot of business with the UK.

Much as I don't like May or this Government, the majority voted to leave the Eu, and she is trying to make this happen. The unelected rulers of the EU know that they have all the bargaining chips here as Tory MP's, most Labour MP's and the SNP will vote against anything May proposes unless it's basically staying in the EU. They're just sitting back licking their lips.

Lots of UKIP-style sound bytes there, very little meaning.

[Letters]

We're going to end up with exactly what we have now being a member of the EU, but with no representative around the EU table.
You say that like it's a good thing.

I actually think you might be right, or close to. This is pretty much what I expect actually, a mess of a deal which leaves people who wanted to Remain unhappy because we are no longer part of the EU and have no seat at the table and people who wanted to Leave unhappy because they didn't get what they thought they were going to get.

[Goonermerree]

You say that like it's a good thing.

I actually think you might be right, or close to. This is pretty much what I expect actually, a mess of a deal which leaves people who wanted to Remain unhappy because we are no longer part of the EU and have no seat at the table and people who wanted to Leave unhappy because they didn't get what they thought they were going to get.

I don't think it's a good thing at all. It's a right old mess.

[GP]

It is a mess and there's only one way to fix it.

[Coney]

We're going to end up with exactly what we have now being a member of the EU, but with no representative around the EU table. We have more bargaining power than scare mongers are saying, European countries would lose a lot not trading with the UK, Ireland does a lot of business with the UK.

Much as I don't like May or this Government, the majority voted to leave the Eu, and she is trying to make this happen. The unelected rulers of the EU know that they have all the bargaining chips here as Tory MP's, most Labour MP's and the SNP will vote against anything May proposes unless it's basically staying in the EU. They're just sitting back licking their lips.

"The unelected rulers of the EU"

No - they were elected either as representatives of the governments or by the council of ministers.

They're just sitting back licking their lips
No - they are waiting for us to propose something acceptable to them. You can't expect them to le any country to just leave and end up with the membership privileges without any cost. They are fighting their corner as best the can which is what they would be expected to do.

A brexit split will also cost the EU and their negotiating team have a responsibility to minimise that cost FOR THEM, not for us. I don't understand why so many brexiteers don't understand this, unless they are still living under the delusion that we still have an empire of over a quarter of the planet. Mind you, given the attitude and comments made by brexiteers, they do seem to have a large contingent of knuckle-scraping racists and xenophobes.

[Coney]

It is a mess and there's only one way to fix it.

Invade Poland?

[GP]

Invade Poland?

That comes later.

[Letters]

A brexit split will also cost the EU and their negotiating team have a responsibility to minimise that cost FOR THEM, not for us. I don't understand why so many brexiteers don't understand this, unless they are still living under the delusion that we still have an empire of over a quarter of the planet.
Honestly don't understand this attitude - a friend of a friend on FB does it a lot: "Nasty old EU, not bending over and giving us everything we want".
Why should they? It's a negotiation, one which we initiated. We want what's best for us, they want what's best for them, there is bound to be some tension there.
It's like divorcing your wife and then whining she wants half the house.

[Goonermerree]

Honestly don't understand this attitude - a friend of a friend on FB does it a lot: "Nasty old EU, not bending over and giving us everything we want".
Why should they? It's a negotiation, one which we initiated. We want what's best for us, they want what's best for them, there is bound to be some tension there.
It's like divorcing your wife and then whining she wants half the house.

Of course Europe do want the best for them, but we are making it easy for them. No deal is better than a bad deal. Once the 'no deal' is on the table, then the real negotiations can begin. Until then, the UK get s nothing.

[Coney]

Honestly don't understand this attitude - a friend of a friend on FB does it a lot: "Nasty old EU, not bending over and giving us everything we want".
Why should they? It's a negotiation, one which we initiated. We want what's best for us, they want what's best for them, there is bound to be some tension there.
It's like divorcing your wife and then whining she wants half the house.
... or people wanting British laws run by the British justice system, then calling 3 judges 'traitors' for saying British law must be followed (and Parliament have the say).

Of course, it might be because the press are owned by people like an Australian living in America wanting the people to get the country out of the EU so they can get laws put into place to exploit ordinary people to their own gain.

What I find troubling is how they brexiteers played the racial game and then wash their hands when, after winning the vote, racist idiots in the country assume that means they now have the right to harass and even murder foreigners and non-white Brits. You see what the campaign used to get its way. And STILL people think that foreigners are taking jobs and somehow simultaneously not working and living off the state - how thick can people possibly be?

[Coney]

Of course Europe do want the best for them, but we are making it easy for them. No deal is better than a bad deal. Once the 'no deal' is on the table, then the real negotiations can begin. Until then, the UK get s nothing.

No, no no! No deal IS a bad deal. End of story.

[Letters]

Of course Europe do want the best for them, but we are making it easy for them. No deal is better than a bad deal. Once the 'no deal' is on the table, then the real negotiations can begin. Until then, the UK get s nothing.

We're making a complete mess of it but is anyone really surprised about that?

[GP]

No deal is better than a bad deal..

Explain what 'no deal' means for the Automotive sector, aviation, energy, food, travel, customs and the Irish border. In your own time.

[Letters]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaEBmpu-4o

Pie :bow:

[GP]

His schtick is wearing a bit thin for me.

And he's wrong, all leave voters most definitely are thick.

[Letters]

I like his schtick. He says himself that it’s a character and he personally doesn’t agree with everything the character says.
I think the video makes a good point. I think people on both sides of this were poorly informed. I count myself in that.
It’s simplistic to say that all Leavers were thick/ignorant/racist.
The reality is a bit more complicated.

(I do think most racists voted Leave though, they’re in for a rude awakening when they realise that them foreigners aren’t going to stop coming over here simultaneously leeching off our benefits system and stealing their jobs)

[Cripps]

It's pretty clear

All leavers are thick and racist.

[Coney]

It's pretty clear

All leavers are thick and racist.

Well, maybe not all but most of them, I think.

[GP]

Well, maybe not all but most of them, I think.

Especially the ones who'll parrot meaningless slogans like'No deal is better than a bad deal' as if that actually means anything.

[GP]

What do we make of all this Trum/Kim Jong Un stuff then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44435035

Have to say, Trump might have pulled off quite a coup here.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/394326-satellite-images-show-north-korea-upgrading-nuclear-research-facility

Quite the coup indeed :lol:

[Coney]

Especially the ones who'll parrot meaningless slogans like'No deal is better than a bad deal' as if that actually means anything.

Oh - it does mean something. It means they are idiots.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Especially the ones who'll parrot meaningless slogans like'No deal is better than a bad deal' as if that actually means anything.

Where’s the beef?

[Xhaka Can’t]

#secondcivilwarletters

[Letters]

I'll warm up the ban-hammer... :cool:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561

:popcorn:

I demand a rematch :sulk:

[GP]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561

:popcorn:

I demand a rematch :sulk:

Yeah, but..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-44689824/theresa-may-brexit-means-brexit-does-mean-brexit

We've got the worst fucking politicians in this country. Honestly, they are incompetent, the lot of them. Two fucking years after a rigged referendum, the cabinet are still arguing amongst themselves about what it is they want. That should have been decided before any notification was given. For fucks sake, I wouldn't be able to start a project without completing an impact assessment, but this Government can take a decision to pull us out of the EU without one? Bollocks. Blow them all up.

[Cripps]

Brexit :haha:

[Letters]

Basically though, yeah. Cameron is a ****, basically. He offered the referendum to appease "the right" but complacently assumed that when push comes to shove people would vote to Remain.
I did too actually. So they never thought to make a plan for what leaving actually meant or what it looked like. 2 years later and they still don't seem to know. The twats.

:doh:

[Power n Glory]

Now that NQ has been banned, it's not fair to mention him to WUM. It looks bad on your part as well.

[GP]

Basically though, yeah. Cameron is a ****, basically. He offered the referendum to appease "the right" but complacently assumed that when push comes to shove people would vote to Remain.
I did too actually. So they never thought to make a plan for what leaving actually meant or what it looked like. 2 years later and they still don't seem to know. The twats.

:doh:

People voted leave for a lot of reasons, but there's now no time for the government to ratify a withdrawal agreement, so we leave with no deal. Did anyone vote for that? What does that mean for jobs, for aviation, for haulage, for our border, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, AU nationals living here, UK nationals living in the EU... it goes on and on.

Whatever the outcome of the referendum, the government has no mandate for what they are doing.

[Letters]

Now that NQ has been banned, it's not fair to mention him to WUM. It looks bad on your part as well.

Fine. Edited my post and the reply to it which quoted it.
Was intended as a lighthearted remark on his...temperament, not to wind anyone up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561

:popcorn:

I demand a rematch :sulk:

Remain woz robbed!

Guess all they can do is punish those involved in the election campaign? The result will still be held sacrosanct, sadly.

[GP]

Remain woz robbed!

Guess all they can do is punish those involved in the election campaign? The result will still be held sacrosanct, sadly.

It's the Will of the People.

Russian people, mostly.

[Letters]

Remain woz robbed!

Guess all they can do is punish those involved in the election campaign? The result will still be held sacrosanct, sadly.

We need VAR tbh...

[Letters]

It's the Will of the People.

Russian people, mostly.

I don't think we should dismiss the fact that a lot of people wanted to leave.
But...I don't think that will end up looking like what they thought it would look like.

[GP]

I don't think we should dismiss the fact that a lot of people wanted to leave.
But...I don't think that will end up looking like what they thought it would look like.

Of course, many thought we should leave because the NHS would get a load of extra money. That wasn't true.

Many thought we should leave because the EU is un-democratic. Well, can you honestly look at what's going on in the Conservative party and say that's better?

Many people thought we should leave to get rid of brown people.

No matter how you voted, I don't see anyone being happy at how this was handled.

[Globalgunner]

The greatest failing was that of the Commons. It was a non binding vote by a slim majority. The MPs then mostly went ahead as if they had no choice.

[Letters]

The greatest failing was that of the Commons. It was a non binding vote by a slim majority. The MPs then mostly went ahead as if they had no choice.

My then MP voted to leave in the vote. His constituents voted to remain.
So he can sod right off, and I'm glad he lost his seat in the ensuing general election.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We had one of the highest remain votes in the country. Our cunt of an MP is a raving Brexiteer and voted leave.

She is an utter cunt of a twat.

[GP]

We had one of the highest remain votes in the country. Our cunt of an MP is a raving Brexiteer and voted leave.

She is an utter cunt of a twat.

Hoey?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Oh, she is an utter cunt of a twat too.

Villiers

[GP]

Fuck sakes, Villiers is an absolute moron.

Look at this shit.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-theresa-villiers-dup-deal/

edit: James O'Brien is fucking brilliant.

[Letters]

Mine was David Burrowes who I've met a few times and actually seems like a decent chap.
He's a Gooner and everything.
But after he voted leave when his constituents voted remain... :threaten:

I believe "cunt of a twat" was the original line in LoTR before they changed it to "fool of a Took" to get a lower age rating.

[Letters]

NQ sent a message via the user feedback form which said in part:


Please update the few members who aren't fast asleep (there are two).

The EU Article 11 and 13 diktats have been temporarily defeated, thanks to the efforts of over a million people who have a passing clue about what's happening in their world. Obviously this doesn't include the members of GW, apart from the 2 I mentioned. But just in case they aren't keeping up, good news. Please let them know.

There's a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndi8KWlZjNA

After years of trying to convince you people to engage with your world, and having failed comprehensively, perhaps the two with awareness can succeed.

Anyway, he asked me to post it - or that's what I think he meant me to do - so there it is. No idea who "the 2" are.

And, for the record, he is welcome to come back any time if he'd post like he used to, he was one of the best members on here.
He's made it pretty clear that won't happen which is a shame, but the offer is always there...

[GP]

Seriously??

He sent you a message to post some propaganda on his behalf??

What a loony :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

David Davis resigns!

:haha:

[GP]

Honestly, we are months away from leaving, just weeks left to negotiate a deal, and the guy in charge swans off, putting his trotters up with dodgy Dave.

Cunts, the lot of them.

What an absolute shambles this government is. Shameful.

[Letters]

David Davis resigns!

:haha:

:haha:

Wow. What a shambles! :doh:

[GP]

The awful Steve Baker and the idiot Suella Braverman also gone.

What a bunch of twats.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Honestly, we are months away from leaving, just weeks left to negotiate a deal, and the guy in charge swans off, putting his trotters up with dodgy Dave.

Cunts, the lot of them.

What an absolute shambles this government is. Shameful.

As a great man once said: "TWAT!".

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/07/09/brexiters-and-remainers-united-in-belief-that-theresa-mays-new-brexit-plan-is-bullshit/

:d

[Cripps]

Brexit :haha:

[GP]

Sounds like Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson is jumping ship as well.

Has anything of value ever come out of Eton?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This is a coup d'etat surely?

That meeting at Chequers must've been interesting.

Theresa May: We're doing soft Brexit

BJ and DD: Sure, agreed. Bye!

[Goonermerree]

Boris resigns, May cannot survive this. What a bloody shambles!

[Goonermerree]

Brexit means Brexit - in name only.

[GP]

Brexit means bullshit.

[Letters]

Has anything of value ever come out of Eton?
Was going to say "Eton Mess", but I don't really like meringue, so no, no it hasn't.

[Letters]

Boris resigns, May cannot survive this. What a bloody shambles!

Mate of mine works in Downing Street. He must be having a crap day

Him :rose:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mate of mine works in Downing Street. He must be having a crap day

Him :rose:

Philip Hammond. :haha:

[Cripps]

Tories :rose:

[Goonermerree]

I don't care, I'm making plans to go and live in Europe!

[Letters]

I don't care, I'm making plans to go and live in Europe!

Your mind is going to be blown when I tell you which continent England is in...

[Letters]

Brexit is going brilliantly. Let's stop all this Project Fear nonsense...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJh6EQ5gv7g

[Goonermerree]

Your mind is going to be blown when I tell you which continent England is in...

Do shut up, bloody racist! We won't be in Europe soon, physical continent yes, but not in the political sense. Well, we will be with no representative around the table.

[Cripps]

First Wenger now Boris

May next :pray:

[GP]

Come back Ed Milliband, all is forgiven.

[Goonermerree]

May addressing the Commons, not having a good time of it, wonder why?

[Cripps]

If this government was in charge of the cave rescue they'd be adding more boys.

[GP]

https://i.imgur.com/CpEE96e.gif

[Goonermerree]

May cannot survive this. She has no comeback for anything Corbyn says.

[GP]

BREAKING: The Conservative Party

[Goonermerree]

She's fighting back.

[Goonermerree]

Wonder how many more Tories will resign before the end of the day?

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/07/09/popcorn-sales-spike-across-europe/

:haha:

[I am invisible]

My god, we're going to end up with a choice between Bojo the Clown and/or Gove vs Corbyn and Abbott at the next election, aren't we?

[Globalgunner]

1922 committee meeting as we speak.

Goonermeree for PM!

[Letters]

My god, we're going to end up with a choice between Bojo the Clown and/or Gove vs Corbyn and Abbott at the next election, aren't we?

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/reesmogg-s-eccentric-side-hides-a-far-more-sinister-political-animal-a3879171.html

:ilt:

[Goonermerree]

1922 committee meeting as we speak.

Goonermeree for PM!

I'd kick some butt!!!!

[Goonermerree]

My god, we're going to end up with a choice between Bojo the Clown and/or Gove vs Corbyn and Abbott at the next election, aren't we?

Corbyn and Abbot won't get much done swooning all over each other.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Come back Ed Milliband, all is forgiven.

Remember that time he made a funny face?

Simpler times.

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUGZg1IXkAY4s3G.jpg
TWAT!

[GP]

No Boris is better than a bad Boris.

[GP]

Jeremy Hunt is Foreign Sec.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Jeremy Hunt is Foreign Sec.

No he is a cunt.

[Letters]

No he is a cunt.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
If anything it qualifies him for the job.

:ilt:

[Xhaka Can’t]

I just wanted to make it clear that he is a cunt.

[Letters]

So noted.

[GP]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-caller-eu-conspiracy-theories/

N_Q :doh:

[I am invisible]

Comment of the day - "It's difficult to see how Theresa May can replace the knowledge she's lost with Boris Johnson and David Davis, unless by some chance Tesco have two pineapples for sale."

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44807561

Does this reveal what Brexit would be from our perspective?

I think not.

[GP]

The White Paper is a best case scenario. Even then it's utterly ruinous.

If we end up leaving with no deal, best to stockpile tinned food and bottled water.

I'm not joking.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/724982/The_future_relationship_between_the_United_Kingdom _and_the_European_Union_WEB_VERSION.pdf

Here's the whole thing. It even has a foreword from May. :lol:

I imagine the EU won't have to buy toilet roll for a while.

[GP]

What a fucking mess.

I've never been so furious about a political situation in my life.

[GP]

http://politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/12/if-this-is-all-the-government-has-for-its-brexit-white-paper

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Claire Perry MP on Theresa May (from Question Time last night)


I have to say that I see that woman every day working her socks off, one of the most hardworking and diligent Prime Minister's I think I have ever seen, she in fact reminds me of a certain waistcoated gentleman who has done such a brilliant thing with the British Lions.

British Lions. :haha:

[I am invisible]

Claire Perry MP on Theresa May (from Question Time last night)



British Lions. :haha:

Did anyone else even correct her? Bunch of politics nerds.

[GP]

Michael Fabricant MP yesterday tweeted a picture of a pig fucking Sadiq Kahn.

How can this be acceptable behaviour for an elected official?

[Letters]

Got into the office expecting pandemonium - lots of Trump protests planned today. Nothing yet, maybe it's more down Whitehall or maybe it hasn't started yet :popcorn:

Will pop out at lunch and have another look.

[GP]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

:doh:

Cancel the whole thing.

[Letters]

This amused me

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44853464

Shall we go on holiday?
Let's vote on it.
All in favour?

:lol: Wonder how that will go?!

[GP]

This amused me

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44853464

Shall we go on holiday?
Let's vote on it.
All in favour?

:lol: Wonder how that will go?!

Not fit for purpose.

Blow the lot up.

[Letters]

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/wetherspoon-unveils-brexit-chaos-breakfast-20180717175395#.W03X6c_wWx8.facebook

:lol:


EDIT: Credit to Gary who put this on FB.

[GP]

This amused me

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44853464

Shall we go on holiday?
Let's vote on it.
All in favour?

:lol: Wonder how that will go?!

Disgraced Former Defense Secretary Liam Fox just said on Sky News that they want an early recess because there's only "light business" to deal with.

None of them are fit for office.

[Letters]

UKIP :bow:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-44861508

[GP]

Typical Kipper

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/07/17/lance-armstrongs-tour-de-france-wins-reinstated-after-brexit-revelation-that-cheating-is-fine/

:lol:

[GP]

It's funny because it's true.

Except it's not funny. It's utterly depressing.

[GP]

President Trump and President Putin were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me.

[Letters]

It's funny because it's true.

Except it's not funny. It's utterly depressing.

We all lost, get over it.

:dance:

:ilt:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This Labour anti-Semitism thing is getting a bit overblown now isn't it?

[GP]

It's just a distraction.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44895384

:lol:

http://newsthump.com/2018/07/20/trump-invites-putin-to-live-with-him/

:d

[Letters]

Oh thank goodness! Now everything will be OK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44941792

:dance:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

As they say in Ebonics, we be fucked!

[Letters]

Had to Google "Ebonics" tbh.

Although it just said "Ebonics means Ebonics"

[GP]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1022782569673355265


:doh:

[Xhaka Can’t]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1022782569673355265


:doh:

Well I’m convinced!

[GP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek9_GQa1lgc

[Letters]

Not a big fan of Stewart Lee’s standup but parts of that made me lol

[WMUG]

Had to Google "Ebonics" tbh.

Although it just said "Ebonics means Ebonics"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English

It's what they speak in The Wire.

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlTIn_CXgAE4XM8.jpg

[Letters]

Blue passports :bow:
Bendy bananas :bow:
Things written on the sides of a bus :bow:

[Coney]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek9_GQa1lgc

I'm nicking that! :lol::clap:

[Coney]

Blue passports :bow:
Bendy bananas :bow:
Things written on the sides of a bus :bow:

I don't understand why they want blue passports 'back' - I got my first passport way back before the EU ones came out and I still have it. And it is black. Never saw a blue passport ever.

And the further irony about not wanting a maroon passport is that it was NOT chosen by the EU. We needed to follow the format of the EU logo for an EU passport but the colour was the choice of each country. We could have blue, black, shitty purple or sky blue pink if we had wanted. Like the bananas, it was all horseshit.

[Letters]

Theresa May dancing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45329910/theresa-may-dons-her-dancing-shoes-in-sa

No need to thank me.

[GP]

What a fucking bitch.

That Guy Fawkes had some good ideas...

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/08/28/theresa-mays-dancing-replaces-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-as-the-worst-thing-ever-filmed/

:lol:

[GP]

https://soundcloud.com/bbcradiokent/nodealbrexit-heated-debate

:doh:

Can we just stop this nonsense now?

[Letters]

Sounds like we are pretty much screwed.

Democracy :bow:

[GP]

Boris Johnson should be killed.

[Letters]

That's our next Prime Minister you're talking about :sulk:

[GP]

He should be literally shot in the face.

[Globalgunner]

He should be literally shot in the face.

It would be impossible to miss i guess

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45400994

:lol:

:ilt:

[GP]

This is the next step.

Now that it's all gone wrong, those who advocated for it are blaming those who said repeatedly that it would be a disaster.

Cunts.

[Coney]

This is the next step.

Now that it's all gone wrong, those who advocated for it are blaming those who said repeatedly that it would be a disaster.

Cunts.

They won the vote, then walked away leaving others to try and deal with the mess. The trick is that when Brexit goes tits up, they can blame everyone else because they hid in the corner. Total c***s.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45446254

I guess they now have 2 years to finalise the deal?