Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million [Archive] - Page 7

Niall_Quinn

11-09-2011, 07:35 PM

So we should have kept him and have a player who does not want to play for us. Why did no other club bid for him because they knew he wanted to go one place.

No, we should have stuck to our asking price which Barcelona would have paid. I've never seen a club so desperate to sign a player. A two year pursuit with every rotten trick in the book thrown in. The icing on their cake was to see if they could make us look like lame bitch cunts in the process, and of course we fell on our backs and obliged. Typical us. They took the player and then took the piss, I suppose you saw them laughing in the media? Let's not rush around trying to explain away the Barca was here tatoo on our arse, eh? People are already laughing at us, let's not make it worse.

Cripps_orig

11-09-2011, 08:20 PM

look at the Tevez situation and the fee City demanded, now look at us and Cesc....you are right mate we were fucked thanks to Wenger

If Barca did not pay the right value then Cesc should have been forced to stay like TEVEZ

Yes but we have Wenger and they have Mancini.

Pretty much says it all

-Xs-

11-09-2011, 08:30 PM

The money was irrelevant

It was never going to be re-invested back in the team, so why you all moaning?

We didn't get fucked by the price, the board did, should all be happy

Xhaka Can’t

11-09-2011, 08:36 PM

Yes but we have Wenger and they have Mancini and hundreds of millions of pounds that he can and has pissed away without any consequence.

Pretty much says it all

Pretty much.

Olivier's xmas twist

11-09-2011, 10:52 PM

Yes but we have Wenger and they have Mancini.

Pretty much says it all

They have billions of pounds we don't. But yeah we have Wenger so fair point i suppose

Japan Shaking All Over

12-09-2011, 10:45 AM

fakeyank

16-09-2011, 06:18 PM

BBC/Caughtoffside has Citeh planning 35 mil swoop for Busquets

Citeh :hail: . . . .the only club that can fuck with Barca the same way they fucked with us. . . .not that thwy are going to come knicking on our door any time soon

sorry copy and paste is a bitch on the phone so no link

Biscuit is an important player for barca but definitely not irreplaceable.. Barca will bite their hands off for that money. Its going to be for the greater good as well.. I'd love to see Biscuit rolling and crying against the GHEL's.. he will realize his play acting from Spain wont work here

Niall_Quinn

19-09-2011, 08:25 PM

Third best player on the planet shines for Barca as his predictably lethal partnership with Messi moves Barca on a notch.

CESC FABREGAS starred in an eight-goal Barcelona super show to remind Arsene Wenger exactly what he is missing.
Just hours after Arsenal's disaster at Blackburn, Fabregas teamed up with Lionel Messi to inspire an 8-0 rout of Osasuna in La Liga.

Fabregas and Messi have quickly struck up a fantastic understanding since the Spanish midfielder quit the Gunners for the European champs.

That was perfectly illustrated when Fabregas scored Barca's second at the Nou Camp.

He chested the ball to Messi and raced into the box, picking up a return lob and volleying home.

Messi grabbed a hat-trick and David Villa got two.

Fabregas tweeted: "Good match today, very happy with the result."

The £30mill we got for him is possibly the worst piece of business in the history of football barring Bosman losses. Certainly can't think of a more lopsided deal.

Olivier's xmas twist

19-09-2011, 08:29 PM

Third best player on the planet shines for Barca as his predictably lethal partnership with Messi moves Barca on a notch.

The £30mill we got for him is possibly the worst piece of business in the history of football barring Bosman losses. Certainly can't think of a more lopsided deal.

Meh its happend get over it and move on no more you can do. Its not hard to For cesc to shine in a barca team is it.

Niall_Quinn

19-09-2011, 08:31 PM

Meh its happend get over it and move on no more you can do. Its not hard to For cesc to shine in a barca team is it.

True. The board gets £30mill, the team loses its star player and no replacement comes in then gets rogered 8-2 at OT and the fans pay the highest prices in the universe. Time to accept this and move on.

Olivier's xmas twist

19-09-2011, 08:34 PM

True. The board gets £30mill, the team loses its star player and no replacement comes in then gets rogered 8-2 at OT and the fans pay the highest prices in the universe. Time to accept this and move on.

what else can we do, demand the deal be void now, its happend Fabregas is a barca player, we got screwed not much we can really do on that issue is it.

Niall_Quinn

19-09-2011, 08:37 PM

what else can we do, demand the deal be void now, its happend Fabregas is a barca player, we got screwed not much we can really do on that issue is it.

We could hold the club executives down and shit in their mouths. Then they could call themselves real fans.

Olivier's xmas twist

19-09-2011, 08:52 PM

We could hold the club executives down and shit in their mouths. Then they could call themselves real fans.

i think they have enough shit coming out of their mouths tbh

Niall_Quinn

19-09-2011, 09:37 PM

i think they have enough shit coming out of their mouths tbh

Don't think they are forced to eat enough of it and they certainly don't die enough.

Power n Glory

20-09-2011, 06:00 AM

True. The board gets £30mill, the team loses its star player and no replacement comes in then gets rogered 8-2 at OT and the fans pay the highest prices in the universe. Time to accept this and move on. Wenger convinced the board to accept Barca's offer. It's his own fault.

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 10:03 AM

Wenger convinced the board to accept Barca's offer. It's his own fault.

i hold no blame to wenger over this transfer. barca fucked around, they didnt bid, but instead spouted bollocks in the press about how we holding him hostage etc. arsenal wanted forty barca were bidding around 25 etc i think wenger just had enough and rather then have a player held when he wanted to go just said accept 30 and be done with it. you cannot blame wenger for that imo, barca fucked around, if htey had just bid sensibly it would have been over by july

Coney

20-09-2011, 11:31 AM

i hold no blame to wenger over this transfer. barca fucked around, they didnt bid, but instead spouted bollocks in the press about how we holding him hostage etc. arsenal wanted forty barca were bidding around 25 etc i think wenger just had enough and rather then have a player held when he wanted to go just said accept 30 and be done with it. you cannot blame wenger for that imo, barca fucked around, if htey had just bid sensibly it would have been over by july

I think this is right and I don't blame Wenger for either the Cesc or Nasri fiascos. Nasri was going and given the player was going at the end of the year anyway, the money we got was a good deal. (Selling to a PL rival like Citeh was not important as, if they could not have had him, they would have just spent whatever it took to buy a player of a similar or better standard, which would make no difference to us in our PL pretentions). The Cesc thing has been flogged to death and we know it was a question of what we could screw out of Barca which was limited by the fact that no other club was in for buying him, nor ever would be.

However....

What I do blame Wenger/TheBoard/ThePowersThatBeAtTheArsenal for is not securing the defensive players that we needed at an earlier stage. While we might have still left it late to buy Arteta and Benny until we confirmed Cesc/Nasri were going this window and not the next, we knew from the outset that we needed a striker, CB and LB and we should have got that done and dusted in the first few weeks, so that the defence would have a month and more of training together with the new defensive coach that we should also have bought. This would have made our start of season a damn sight better and we would likely have been half a dozen points better off. Certainly we would not be losing to shit like Blackburn and the manu result would have been less embarrassing - we might even have picked up a point or 3.

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 11:33 AM

I think this is right and I don't blame Wenger for either the Cesc or Nasri fiascos. Nasri was going and given the player was going at the end of the year anyway, the money we got was a good deal. (Selling to a PL rival like Citeh was not important as, if they could not have had him, they would have just spent whatever it took to buy a player of a similar or better standard, which would make no difference to us in our PL pretentions). The Cesc thing has been flogged to death and we know it was a question of what we could screw out of Barca which was limited by the fact that no other club was in for buying him, nor ever would be.

However....

What I do blame Wenger/TheBoard/ThePowersThatBeAtTheArsenal is not securing the defensive players that we needed at an earlier stage. While we might have still left it late to but Arteta and Benny until we confirmed Cesc/Nasri were going this window and not the next, we knew from the outset that we needed a striker, CB and LB and we should have got that done and dusted in teh first few weeks, so that the defence would have a month and more of training together with the new defensive coach that we should also have bought. This would have made our start of season a damn site better and we would likely have been half a dozen points better off. Certainly we would not be losing to shit like Blackburn and the manu result would have been less embarrassing - we might even have picked up a point or 3.

top bit is spot on and the second part is too. wenger to blame for late signings etc but nasri and cesc, he is exempt from blame

Cripps_orig

20-09-2011, 11:34 AM

Wenger convinced the board to accept Barca's offer. It's his own fault.

This

The only thing we can blame the board for here is how easy they bend over for Wenger almost as easily as Wenger bends over for Barca.

But majority of the blame for the piss poor price for Cesc is down to Wenger

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 11:38 AM

This

The only thing we can blame the board for here is how easy they bend over for Wenger almost as easily as Wenger bends over for Barca.

But majority of the blame for the piss poor price for Cesc is down to Wenger

but nothing to with barca only offering a packet of crisps and whatever change is behind the sofa? you really do talk shit at times :rolleyes:

Cripps_orig

20-09-2011, 11:39 AM

but nothing to with barca only offering a packet of crisps and whatever change is behind the sofa? you really do talk shit at times :rolleyes:

We didnt have to accept it though did we? :doh:

Seriously, you really should engage your brain before you type

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 11:42 AM

We didnt have to accept it though did we? :doh:

Seriously, you really should engage your brain before you type

tbh we did, cesc wanted to go, he was shit last year, you could tell his heart was not here. why hold out for 40 million knowing we wont get it and have a disgruntled captain for another year. you kept telling cesc to fuck off, so it was right to sell him.

Cripps_orig

20-09-2011, 11:45 AM

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 11:47 AM

We would have got £40m. Barca would have paid eventually had Wenger not been a spineless cunt and bent over but then thats what the cunt does best.

Oh well

We got rid of the Poster Boy of Failure and now to get rid of the Cancer of Success in Wenger and then finally we can have our Arsenal back

no they wouldnt have paid it. one they couldnt afford it apparently and two there was no one else to drive the price up. as soon as they started fucking around we knew they wouldnt pay much for him. wenger did the right thing and cannot be blamed for it

Boss

20-09-2011, 01:31 PM

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 01:33 PM

Wenger didn't do the right thing.

We were always going to get fucked over on the price, sure that can be accepted.

However waiting until after the season had already started to sell him and STILL getting ass fucked on the price was shocking management. Not to mention waiting till the last day of the season to replace him (with Arteta).

i have said that he fucked up after selling cesc by not replacing etc, that is his fault. but if barca didnt put in a sensible bid in till august waht can wenger do?

Niall_Quinn

20-09-2011, 01:34 PM

no they wouldnt have paid it. one they couldnt afford it apparently and two there was no one else to drive the price up. as soon as they started fucking around we knew they wouldnt pay much for him. wenger did the right thing and cannot be blamed for it

Of course they would have paid and of course they had the money. Everything that was "true" about this deal has predictably turned out to be bullshit. The "bench player" crap, why are you going to leave one of the best players in the world on the bench? The "didn't really want him" crap, like they didn't chase him relentlessly and employ the whole team to tap him up. I've never seen a team more desperate to sign a player. They framed the who transfer from an early stage and executed perfectly, our lot were eaten like a light snack. How do we know this for sure? Because Barca have admitted to all of it in public, they're laughing at us. No doubt they feel a sense of payback for what they consider was our theft of him in the first place. Bottom line, Barcelona 100 Arsenal 0. Only we could engineer the sale of our prize asset for half what he's worth. We are so incompetent in so many areas it's frightening.

True, the deal is done and there's no way it will be undone. But we've also paved the way for any club to come in a pick up our top players for pennies even when they are on long contracts. This means clubs will see the value in trying to unsettle our players, tap them up, destabilise us. We've sent the message it works whereas we should have categorically slammed the door in Barca's face until they paid up. Not just because we had a contract with Fabregas but because we've got some lean times ahead and if we want to avoid being second rate on a permanent basis we need to know we can hang on to our better players. The whole Cesc saga proves we can't, we're weak and we're stupid in the transfer market. But who didn't know that already? Of course we suddenly find our strength when it comes to spending money - no way would we ever contemplate paying the going rate. Trouble is, we're no Barca either on or off the pitch so all our tough talk when negotiating to bring players in just means we miss out on the player. Maybe we should get a proper team in to deal with these matters?

Power n Glory

20-09-2011, 01:35 PM

i have said that he fucked up after selling cesc by not replacing etc, that is his fault. but if barca didnt put in a sensible bid in till august waht can wenger do?

Not sell.

Boss

20-09-2011, 01:35 PM

i have said that he fucked up after selling cesc by not replacing etc, that is his fault. but if barca didnt put in a sensible bid in till august waht can wenger do?

Say pay before X date or GTFO.

He was on a four year contract.

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 01:37 PM

Not sell.

he did that last year, it didnt work. pretty much all of us wanted cesc to go, he didnt look like he cared and his heart was not in it as it was before barca came knocking.

Xhaka Can’t

20-09-2011, 01:44 PM

True, the deal is done and there's no way it will be undone. But we've also paved the way for any club to come in a pick up our top players for pennies even when they are on long contracts.

Soon, that is pretty much all they'll be worth.

Power n Glory

20-09-2011, 01:45 PM

he did that last year, it didnt work. pretty much all of us wanted cesc to go, he didnt look like he cared and his heart was not in it as it was before barca came knocking.

So what’s the excuse for the rest of the team? RVP doesn’t look up to it this season, Song looks off, Arshavin, Theo looks pissed off every game…..

Like every other player on the team, he was frustrated with the results and the constant mistakes. His heart wasn’t in it because we were playing crap football. If we’d have kept him and bought some players and shown we’re trying to correct our mistakes he’d have been up for the challenge.

Selling off Cesc has really smashed the teams confidence and it’s done us serious damage. Take a look at the players in the squad and the body language. When they start looking like Cesc in his final days it has nothing to do with being tapped up by Barca. It’s just pure frustration taking its toll.

Niall_Quinn

20-09-2011, 01:49 PM

So what’s the excuse for the rest of the team? RVP doesn’t look up to it this season, Song looks off, Arshavin, Theo looks pissed off every game…..

Like every other player on the team, he was frustrated with the results and the constant mistakes. His heart wasn’t in it because we were playing crap football. If we’d have kept him and bought some players and shown we’re trying to correct our mistakes he’d have been up for the challenge.

Selling off Cesc has really smashed the teams confidence and it’s done us serious damage. Take a look at the players in the squad and the body language. When they start looking like Cesc in his final days it has nothing to do with being tapped up by Barca. It’s just pure frustration taking its toll.

Not only that but when the players left behind see Cesc and Nasri moving on and up and making the headlines it's a double disaster. The only fucking double we'll be doing in a long time.

Ollie the Optimist

20-09-2011, 01:57 PM

So what’s the excuse for the rest of the team? RVP doesn’t look up to it this season, Song looks off, Arshavin, Theo looks pissed off every game…..

Like every other player on the team, he was frustrated with the results and the constant mistakes. His heart wasn’t in it because we were playing crap football. If we’d have kept him and bought some players and shown we’re trying to correct our mistakes he’d have been up for the challenge.

Selling off Cesc has really smashed the teams confidence and it’s done us serious damage. Take a look at the players in the squad and the body language. When they start looking like Cesc in his final days it has nothing to do with being tapped up by Barca. It’s just pure frustration taking its toll.

i take that point and on a side point arsahvin can fuck off but before february we were challenging for all four trophies, beaten barca at home and were serious title contenders at that time and had a final to play. at that point all hte players were up for it bar him, i didnt think he really was in it 100% like the others, yes perhaps a big load of signings might have helped him stay this year but imo last season he wasnt really with us even when we were winning

Power n Glory

20-09-2011, 01:59 PM

i take that point and on a side point arsahvin can fuck off but before february we were challenging for all four trophies, beaten barca at home and were serious title contenders at that time and had a final to play. at that point all hte players were up for it bar him, i didnt think he really was in it 100% like the others, yes perhaps a big load of signings might have helped him stay this year but imo last season he wasnt really with us even when we were winning

He was playing with an injury. He was never 100%.

Olivier's xmas twist

20-09-2011, 06:53 PM

Wenger didn't do the right thing.

We were always going to get fucked over on the price, sure that can be accepted.

However waiting until after the season had already started to sell him and STILL getting ass fucked on the price was shocking management. Not to mention waiting till the last day of the season to replace him (with Arteta).

This, Wenger should have made a deadline with 3 weeks to go so he could build from there, he did not. He left the team o rot while focusing on cesc and nasri

Olivier's xmas twist

20-09-2011, 06:55 PM

Boss

22-09-2011, 02:13 AM

Scored against last night.

Best midfielder in the world imo.

fakeyank

22-09-2011, 02:57 AM

This, Wenger should have made a deadline with 3 weeks to go so he could build from there, he did not. He left the team o rot while focusing on cesc and nasri

AW is a cunt

selassie

22-09-2011, 08:04 AM

Scored against last night.

Best midfielder in the world imo.

Yeah he's a world class midfielder playing in a world class team.

Sad that we give away our star assets and try and replace them with bargain basement buys or crocked players.

server too busy!

22-09-2011, 09:49 AM

FFS guys he's gone, let it go. We made god knows how much profit on him anyway and we all agreed it was time for him to go. Move on!

Mods, close the thread

Niall_Quinn

22-09-2011, 10:37 AM

FFS guys he's gone, let it go. We made god knows how much profit on him anyway and we all agreed it was time for him to go. Move on!

Mods, close the thread

GTFO - this is the, "We're a bitch seller club and we like it hard up the arse while onlookers watch and laugh", thread, a central theme around which our club is currently operated. Why do you want the thread closed? If you find a gold bar in your attic, do you sell it for £1 and celebrate making 100% profit?

server too busy!

22-09-2011, 10:56 AM

GTFO - this is the, "We're a bitch seller club and we like it hard up the arse while onlookers watch and laugh", thread, a central theme around which our club is currently operated. Why do you want the thread closed? If you find a gold bar in your attic, do you sell it for £1 and celebrate making 100% profit?

No but I'd celebrate if I'd bought something for £100k and sold it for £35m.

Xhaka Can’t

22-09-2011, 11:05 AM

No but I'd celebrate if I'd bought something for £100k and sold it for £35m.

Would you still celebrate if you found out you still needed what you sold and you were unable to replace it for under £50m?

Niall_Quinn

22-09-2011, 11:06 AM

No but I'd celebrate if I'd bought something for £100k and sold it for £35m.

The £35mill is a myth and includes future payments we don't have to make to Fabregas (nothing to do with Barca) plus a hefty performance related sum, which granted we'll probably get because we just gave away one of the few genuine marquee players. I'f we're factoring in wages we haven't paid him then let's factor in the other wages too. The profit is not so handsome after all.

Selling our best players and not replacing them will cost us our spot in the CL too, so factor that in.

The point with this deal is if the fans don't kick up a right fuss about it RvP and Jack will go on the cheap too. That's the message we are sending out as a club and it's a fucked up message which needs to be corrected. The old, "nobody does well when they leave" mantra can be binned too.

If Wenger personally intervened to let Cesc go for half price then that needs to be remembered come the end of this season and set aside all the other things so a proper decision can be made.

BOBN

22-09-2011, 11:47 AM

Scored against last night.

Best midfielder in the world imo.
just sloppy defending.

outplayed by a 36 year old albeda yesterday. found out. 10 man valencia dominated.

Cripps_orig

22-09-2011, 11:49 AM

He hardly plays in midfield either.

Plays in a far more advanced role

BOBN

22-09-2011, 11:53 AM

He hardly plays in midfield either.

Plays in a far more advanced role
correct. practically a centre-forward. a position he could never get away with in a good league.

server too busy!

22-09-2011, 12:11 PM

Would you still celebrate if you found out you still needed what you sold and you were unable to replace it for under £50m?

If keeping it meant I would never be able to use it anymore as it was 'not mentally there' and there was the chance that I already had a replacement that was very loyal...yes.

server too busy!

22-09-2011, 12:14 PM

The £35mill is a myth and includes future payments we don't have to make to Fabregas (nothing to do with Barca) plus a hefty performance related sum, which granted we'll probably get because we just gave away one of the few genuine marquee players. I'f we're factoring in wages we haven't paid him then let's factor in the other wages too. The profit is not so handsome after all.

Selling our best players and not replacing them will cost us our spot in the CL too, so factor that in.

The point with this deal is if the fans don't kick up a right fuss about it RvP and Jack will go on the cheap too. That's the message we are sending out as a club and it's a fucked up message which needs to be corrected. The old, "nobody does well when they leave" mantra can be binned too.

If Wenger personally intervened to let Cesc go for half price then that needs to be remembered come the end of this season and set aside all the other things so a proper decision can be made.

It was a special circumstance about 1 player wanting only to go to 1 club. That won't happen again. Who even said Wenger intervened, wheres the proof?

Of course he was going to do well when he left, same as Nasri...difference is they forced our hand.

If we really wanted to make a stand about a fee, organise a march or something but moaning on a message board isn't really going to bother the board that much.

Cripps_orig

22-09-2011, 12:21 PM

I guess Cesc himself saying Wenger went to the board to convince them to lower the asking fee is proof

BOBN

22-09-2011, 12:22 PM

Would you still celebrate if you found out you still needed what you sold and you were unable to replace it for under £50m?
we had our chance over the years to replace him with equal or superior players in ozil, david silva and so on for a fraction but we blew it.

server too busy!

22-09-2011, 12:32 PM

I guess Cesc himself saying Wenger went to the board to convince them to lower the asking fee is proof

Wheres this quote then?

So what do we do about it then, whine on a messageboard. Speak about it endlessly everytime he scores a goal. Give up, move on. Show your disgust at the stadiun

Cripps_orig

22-09-2011, 12:41 PM

"Without him I would not be a Barca player now, he convinced the owners of Arsenal, who would not sell under any circumstances, to lower the price."

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/109571.html

I dont give a fuck about Cesc or him going. I do give a fuck about Arsenal and we came out the losers getting such a shit price

Ollie the Optimist

22-09-2011, 12:43 PM

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/109571.html

I dont give a fuck about Cesc or him going. I do give a fuck about Arsenal and we came out the losers getting such a shit price

would you rather have a captain who doesnt give a shit and cant be arsed to play or 5m pound less in the bank but no disruptive influence from him. i know what i want

Cripps_orig

22-09-2011, 12:45 PM

would you rather have a captain who doesnt give a shit and cant be arsed to play or 5m pound less in the bank but no disruptive influence from him. i know what i want

Id rather have £40m+ which clubs would have paid.

As soon as Cesc stated his desire to leave then he should have been put on the market. We shouldnt have given a toss about where he wanted to go. We should have looked after ourselves and got the best price possible. Barca would have paid £40m. Of that there is no doubt but Wenger is an awful manager these days

McNamara That Ghost...

22-09-2011, 12:46 PM

correct. practically a centre-forward. a position he could never get away with in a good league.

He's not really getting away with it at Barcelona; it's not exactly what Guardiola wants. I wouldn't say he is playing as a centre-forward but he is popping up everywhere hence why he has been called 'anarchic'.

Ollie the Optimist

22-09-2011, 12:47 PM

Id rather have £40m+ which clubs would have paid.

As soon as Cesc stated his desire to leave then he should have been put on the market. We shouldnt have given a toss about where he wanted to go. We should have looked after ourselves and got the best price possible. Barca would have paid £40m. Of that there is no doubt but Wenger is an awful manager these days

your right we shouldnt have given a toss where he wanted to go but that would never have worked. he even said he spoke to madrid but never wanted to go. yes someone like juvenetus could have come in and offered him millions and paid us 100m but he wouldnt accept it. he only wanted to go to barca so we had no one to bid against cos the whole fucking world knew he would only play for us and barca

Cripps_orig

22-09-2011, 12:50 PM

He would have still gone to Barca because like i said, once we put him on the market and other clubs made £40m+ bids then Barca would have done the same.

Fist of Lehmann

22-09-2011, 12:51 PM

Ollie the Optimist

22-09-2011, 12:53 PM

He would have still gone to Barca because like i said, once we put him on the market and other clubs made £40m+ bids then Barca would have done the same.

no they wouldnt, other clubs could bid what they like and we could accept but cesc wouldnt agree terms making it void, barca knew this hence why they wouldnt bid upwards

Fist of Lehmann

22-09-2011, 01:02 PM

He's not really getting away with it at Barcelona; it's not exactly what Guardiola wants. I wouldn't say he is playing as a centre-forward but he is popping up everywhere hence why he has been called 'anarchic'.Watched some of the first half and for the first time in a while I saw Barcelona not really functioning. Maybe Cesc slows their play down too much. :lol:

He was absolutely busting a gut though.

McNamara That Ghost...

22-09-2011, 01:09 PM

Watched some of the first half and for the first time in a while I saw Barcelona not really functioning. Maybe Cesc slows their play down too much. :lol:

He was absolutely busting a gut though.

I dunno, I thought they played ok. Defensively they were as bad I have seen them though (in the first half). I guess it helps that is Messi going apeshit on providing assists.

Fist of Lehmann

22-09-2011, 01:22 PM

I dunno, I thought they played ok. Defensively they were as bad I have seen them though (in the first half). I guess it helps that is Messi going apeshit on providing assists.I hear they improved in the second half though I couldn't really comment on that. From what I could see, by their own high standards I think they struggled to get their triangles going.

Valencia closed down really well though, and they have some very good players, ripped Barcelona open down the left, and I think we've been linked with that Benega fella before. Albelda was a rock, I think we 'almost' signed him as well, back in the day.

Dog Toffee

22-09-2011, 02:10 PM

Maybe we can put an offer in next summer for him back?

Marc Overmars

22-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Why is this shite ass saga still being discussed? Is it going to be bumped everytime he scores?

He's gone, the money hasn't been spent anyway so I can't see what another 10m would have done.

On we go.

Dog Toffee

22-09-2011, 02:15 PM

Your discussing it now.

Marc Overmars

22-09-2011, 02:17 PM

You're.

fakeyank

22-09-2011, 03:12 PM

He's gone, the money hasn't been spent anyway so I can't see what another 10m would have done.

On we go.

:gp:

It hurts thinking about what we couldve done with the money and what we actually did.. :(

Xhaka Can’t

22-09-2011, 03:19 PM

Mo :lol:

Master Splinter

22-09-2011, 04:23 PM

You're.

:lol:

Pwned tbh.

Niall_Quinn

22-09-2011, 04:35 PM

Id rather have £40m+ which clubs would have paid.

As soon as Cesc stated his desire to leave then he should have been put on the market. We shouldnt have given a toss about where he wanted to go. We should have looked after ourselves and got the best price possible. Barca would have paid £40m. Of that there is no doubt but Wenger is an awful manager these days

Absolutely correct, though the fee should have been £55-60mill. £40mill was an insane bargain, and we couldn't even get that. All this crap about Fabregas not "being mentally here", so what? Do people think he was really going to fuck his career because he didn't fancy it come match day?

Unrelated to your post but to the thread in general:

This isn't about Fabregas, it's about a board and a manager that are fucking our club over. Both the board and the manager are still here, still fucking our club over. For those who don't like "*******s" on the Internet - turn your fucking computer off, you're the one with the problem not the people coming here to discuss issues connected to our club.

Niall_Quinn

22-09-2011, 04:38 PM

If it's a matter of not spending £35m vs not spending £50m I'm not sure the difference isn't academic.

Even if they had been willing to go that high, would the extra millions have made been spent or pocketed?

And if the latter, how does that help us?

Pocketed, and that's why they can take a price cut because there's no intention of reinvesting and it's all profit. That's the point, everything this board does works in their favour. Coincidence?

Ollie the Optimist

22-09-2011, 04:42 PM

Absolutely correct, though the fee should have been £55-60mill. £40mill was an insane bargain, and we couldn't even get that. All this crap about Fabregas not "being mentally here", so what? Do people think he was really going to fuck his career because he didn't fancy it come match day?

Unrelated to your post but to the thread in general:

This isn't about Fabregas, it's about a board and a manager that are fucking our club over. Both the board and the manager are still here, still fucking our club over. For those who don't like "*******s" on the Internet - turn your fucking computer off, you're the one with the problem not the people coming here to discuss issues connected to our club.

i agree he is worth much more, but every time arsenal said no or we want forty etc barca just then spent every moment of the next week making sure everyone connected with barca said how unfair it was and all that bullshit and just unsettled him even further. and a major fan complaint last year was cesc wasnt interested and we wanted rid. yes we didnt get his true value but we never were going to

Coney

22-09-2011, 04:46 PM

:lol:

Pwned tbh.

That's 'Owned'. Just because some ignorant texters and posters use that abomination, it does not excuse you sonny.

Niall_Quinn

22-09-2011, 04:56 PM

i agree he is worth much more, but every time arsenal said no or we want forty etc barca just then spent every moment of the next week making sure everyone connected with barca said how unfair it was and all that bullshit and just unsettled him even further. and a major fan complaint last year was cesc wasnt interested and we wanted rid. yes we didnt get his true value but we never were going to

We're worried Cesc won't be "mentally here" and yet when the club is required to be mentally on the ball in the transfer market the response is, "We'll never get that, we must sell him, he wants to leave, we have no choice...", and every other excuse under the sun. Losing is so deeply ingrained at this club now, in everything it does.

Also the reason why we're still talking about this is the RvP and Wilshere transfers are just around the corner, probably Walcott and Vermaelen too and maybe even Chesney. Within 2 years any half decent player will want to be out of here. If they are on contracts and we don't wish to completely implode, what do we do? Admit it is inevitable they will leave and implode anyway?

Coney

22-09-2011, 05:32 PM

http://news.arseblog.com/2011/09/arseblog-news-flagellates-itself-after-cesc-wins-damages/

Arseblog News flagellates itself after Cesc wins damages

Cesc Fabregas has revealed that he will receive damages from Sport Magazine after the London-based publication printed an interview last week which has since been deemed a fabrication.

The Spanish international had been quoted as saying he left Arsenal because he felt the club could no longer challenge for honours, while admitting that there was in existence a contract clause which would see the Gunners afforded first refusal on re-signing him.

While little of what the midfielder purportedly said was particularly out of the ordinary, or different to what many supporters had indeed aired themselves, that the quotes are not directly attributable to him is very important to make clear.

Writing on Twitter this morning, the former Arsenal captain confirmed:

“Got the apology and retraction from that magazine that made up an interview about me. Can’t believe some journalists.

“I will also get damages that I will give to charity. Hope it teaches them a lesson. I would NEVER say a bad word about Arsenal Football Club.”