The Emirates FA Cup 2015/2016

[Kano]

Chelsea score ffs.

Not sure if Dostoy is happy or not about this.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Interesting dive from Pedro. Dive but don't appeal, changing it up a bit.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're on track for a 9-9, mega punch up, 16 reds and a meteor strike. Could it happen?

[Niall_Quinn]

Interesting dive from Pedro. Dive but don't appeal, changing it up a bit.

He's practising.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-1 Cahill.

Kompany. :lol:

Quadruple is just a matter of time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Limp from Willy.

[Master Splinter]

Citeh :lol:.

Get Kompany on to sort out their defence!

[Marc Overmars]

Who the hell are half of these City players? Way to hand Chelsea a bye.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

It would have been very embarrassing for them to do anything but beat this City side.

[dostoy]

Chelsea score ffs.

Not sure if Dostoy is happy or not about this.

I'm not happy really.

Its easy to understand really but never mind.

Man City are out now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pellegrini should field this team in every remaining game. What's it to him if they get beaten every match?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shite shot from Cesc.

[Letters]

Are the BBC going to stop sucking Fabregas' cock at some point? :rolleyes:

[Niall_Quinn]

Are the BBC going to stop sucking Fabregas' cock at some point? :rolleyes:

Don't know. Is there a post-match special feature on Rooney today or is that tomorrow and the day after?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-1, Hazard freekick

Citeh. :lol:

[Letters]

4-1.

Good Fk tbh.
Fabregas :bow:

[Kano]

Hazard scores to win the Balloon Door.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willy thought he was going wall side? :haha:

What a clown.

[Master Splinter]

Willy is absolutely terrible.

[Niall_Quinn]

azzzaahhhhh is BACK!

Better than Messi? Well, I'll leave that up to you to confirm.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Diego Costa and Pedro hauled off, Oscar and Traore on.

[Master Splinter]

Still no goals from open play or in the league for Azaar.

But he's back!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty.

Demichelis :haha:

[Kano]

City :haha:

What a shambles

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Fabregas has been the Fab of old today to be fair.

The City CB, the Fresh Prince looking one has the worst distribution of any CB I ever seen play in the prem.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willy saves it!

Oscar. :haha:

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea get a pel for that.

We can't get one for undressing, full-on assault or catching the ball in the box.

[Niall_Quinn]

When you look at the 4 pens we've had waved away recently it's pretty incredible what some refs will give.

Missed anyway. Good. Diving bastards.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Traore pubs it on to the post.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think Pellegrini does deserve a draw for choosing that line-up.

Was thinking exactly the same myself, although same time I'm glad they've got hammered it was totally disrespectful of the FA cup.

[Marc Overmars]

I suppose Chavs probably have to rank as favourites for the cup, given it's their only hope of adding some sort of grace to their pathetic season.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

5-1 Traore. :lol:

[Kano]

Willy :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea 5-1 Man City, FT.

Pelllegrini. :haha:

Satan is back. Although given who they play in the league, we might need it.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I suppose Chavs probably have to rank as favourites for the cup, given it's their only hope of adding some sort of grace to their pathetic season.

They might as well rest players in league for the cup!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How didn't the Spuds score? :wacko:

[Munchies]

United are playing today, Thursday and against us on Sunday

We're only playing against Barca

Must beat them at OT

[Niall_Quinn]

Shrewsbury have opted to go with the wide open defence.

[Niall_Quinn]

No upset on the cards here. Shrewsbury have fuck all really.

[Niall_Quinn]

Smalling pubs one in. 0-1

[Niall_Quinn]

0-2 Mata, offside but stands.

All over. Now way is this Shrewsbury team getting two goals.

HT. That was painful stuff. Two terrible teams.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's a classic :sleep:

[Niall_Quinn]

0-3 Lingard

[Xhaka Can’t]

Thanks for the updates NQ.

Riveting stuff.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Reading v Palace is on at the moment.

A bit shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hennessey. :haha:

Clown.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bolasie shoots, Al-Habsi saves, Ledley clears away the danger.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zaha and Gunter. :lol:

Dear me.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How is that a foul on Hennessey? :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Poor from Bolasie.

Terrible shot from Ade.

[adzzzbatch]

penalty!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Palace, bit soft.

Cooper sent off.

[adzzzbatch]

reading 0-1 Palace!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Reading 0-1 Palace, Kebab.

Piss poor from Al-Habsi.

[adzzzbatch]

reading 0-2 Palace!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Reading 0-2 Palace, Campbell!

DREAM GOAL!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Reading 0-2 Palace, FT!

[Letters]

Sounds like I missed a treat.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Glad I went out drinking.

Now I'm in drinking.

Drinking. :bow:

[adzzzbatch]

I'm having a month sober :(

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm having a month sober :(

You should stick a shot of whiskey in that.

[fakeyank]

I'm having a month sober :(

Is everything alright?

[adzzzbatch]

Yeah man :good:, it's just something I wanted to do.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton: Robles, Coleman, Funes Mori, Jagielka (c), Baines, Cleverley, Barry, Lennon, McCarthy, Barkley, Lukaku.
Subs: Howard, Stones, Niasse, Besic, Osman, Deulofeu, Kone

Chelsea: Courtois; Azpilicueta, Cahill, Ivanovic, Kenedy; Mikel, Matic; Willian, Fabregas, Pedro; Diego Costa.
Subs: Begovic, Baba Rahman, Terry, Loftus-Cheek, Oscar, Traore, Remy.

Come on Neverton!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This is on BBC1.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Send him off!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Diego Costa booked.

[Niall_Quinn]

All he's done is throw his full weight at a player and try to elbow him in the face. It's not like he flicked out with his leg and brushed the opponent.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lennon. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Someone dies on the pitch..

Keown: Nah, there's nothing in that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Costas a fucking joke. Somebody needs to kick the cunt in the balls and give him something real to cry about.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How hasn't Kenedy been booked?

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shite from Cleverly.

[Niall_Quinn]

This is plain cheating. 2 clear yellows so he should be off. No way are these decisions just mistakes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ivanovic. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Kennedy should now have 3 yellows, the third for cheating.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Solid defending from Pedro.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pedro very un-chavlike there. Decides not to dive.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Two mid-table teams tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chavs playing Wengerball.

Badly.

[Niall_Quinn]

Half of these guys can't pass. Not even the simple stuff.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jagielka booked. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Joel tips it over from Willian's freekick.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cleverley shoots, Courtois saves one going wide.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT.

Costa at it again.

Utter shite.

Promise for things to come? Unlikely.

[Globalgunner]

Costa what a muppet. Always playing the hard man, but just give him the slightest tap and he spend the next 20 mins lamenting to the ref.

[Niall_Quinn]

HT 0-0

Pure pub.

Ref is an absolute disgrace. This is a huge problem in football now, not just the inconsistencies between the refs but the inconsistency in the same ref in the space of a week. Fucking joke and it's cheating plain and simple. He's done everything he can to keep Kennedy and Costa on the pitch, but for other players off they go for doing half as much or nothing at all. These aren't mistakes, they are calculated decisions.

Costa is a fucking horrible player. What an utter shit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Costa's "quite a character", reckons Lineker. "Quite a personality", he says.

Coquelin though? Gabriel? These players are stupid, they let their clubs down. Vieira was quite a character too but the refs never seemed to have a problem getting their cards out for him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Le Saux is snorting coke I think.

Also, looks like Diego Costa spat near the ref's feet. Guess he thought he was just trying to clean his boots.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

WTF Crouch?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aw Andy Carroll getting a victory lap.

[Niall_Quinn]

WTF Crouch?

I still would.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kill it with fire?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Funes Mori heads over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Offside from a freekick, shocking.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Big Man close-up there. Why?

[Niall_Quinn]

They've found an exceptional new scrote with that Kennedy cunt.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why do Chelsea sign so many Brazilian players?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Diego Costa goes right across goal.

Everton. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Costa has never been sent off while at chavland? :blink:

How can that be?

[Niall_Quinn]

Why do Chelsea sign so many Brazilian players?

Ladyboys

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry lumps it out of play.

[Niall_Quinn]

Barry doing his donkey routine.

[Niall_Quinn]

Willian with his latest dive. So obvious but the ref laps it up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cesc booked. No red? Crazy.

[Niall_Quinn]

Certain red for Fabregash. Ref steps in to do his bit.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAshM3B6A1o

One standard for us, some sort of other thing for the chavs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nothing has happened in this game without there being miscontrol at some point.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry stoutly defending for Chelsea. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Barkley Barkleys it over.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nothing has happened in this game without there being miscontrol at some point.

Unbelievable how much these guys are getting paid for not being able to play football.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Michael Oliver having a fantastic game apparently. :doh:

[Master Splinter]

It took just a few months for Oliver to go from promising and honest to perhaps the biggest and most blatant cheat in all refdom.

He's a joke.

[Master Splinter]

Barkley Barkleys it over.

Build all of sport around him!

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea's latest money-laundering mannequin, Pato, spotted in the crowd.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chelsea's latest money-laundering mannequin, Pato, spotted in the crowd.

Looks like he's down to about 20 stone.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lukaku was in but couldn't control it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea's latest money-laundering mannequin, Pato, spotted in the crowd.

We signed Kallstrom when he was injured!

:haha:

Willian off, Oscar on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Lukaku was in but couldn't control it.

A lot to ask for from a £50mill playa tbf

[Niall_Quinn]

Oscar :haha:

Like for like diving scumbag fluke cheat switch.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Matic. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Coleman just gets it away.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton 1-0 Chelsea, LUKAKU!!!!

What a goal!

[Master Splinter]

LUKAKU!!!!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

WTF Lennon :doh:

A simple cross - beyond him, and a mile beyond everyone else.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well worth £50mill if you ask me.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cahill. :haha:

What a clown.

[Niall_Quinn]

And to rub it in, they're bringing on a diver to rival Costa :haha:

Here comes Delofaux.

Kompany would have prevented that goal.

[Niall_Quinn]

Delayed action death by Cisc.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Matic off, Remy on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton 2-0 Chelsea, LUKAKU!!!!

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

WHO?

[Kano]

Sign him up Wenger.

Chelsea's season :rose:

[Niall_Quinn]

LOL 2-0

Chav billions :haha:

They need a decent keeper tbf

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fight fight fight!

[Kano]

Big Man coming on :haha:

Costa off :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

DIEGO COSTA SENT OFF!!!!!

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Munchies]

YES!!!

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He went in for a lovebite I am sure.

[Niall_Quinn]

Costa off :haha:

Not even Oliver could find a way to keep him on.

[Letters]

Chelsea :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Big Man on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry sent off! :haha:

Misses our game.

[hobson's choice]

He try to bite Barry's neck


Fuckery

[Niall_Quinn]

Well done Cisc. Fabulous dive and the screaming afterwards? Brilliant. What a pro.

[adzzzbatch]

chelski :haha: :haha:


Although I'm sure we'd lose to them in the semis if we'd drawn them (if we get that far)

[Globalgunner]

He try to bite Barry's neck


Fuckery

Vampire!!!!. He managed to turn Barry within 2 mins. Must be some sort of record.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton 2-0 Chelsea, FT!!!

Chelsea OUT. :haha:

Cunts.

Diego Costa. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Chavs need more playa. 200 million billion spent and 950 playa on loan not enough.

[Marc Overmars]

Now that's a fucking result.

3 in a row could be on if we're not careless. :scarf:

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea :haha:.

Mourinho :haha:.

Hiddink :haha:.

Abramovich :haha:.

Diego Cunta :haha:.

Cisc Cuntregas :haha:.

Big Man :haha:.

Pat Nevin :haha:.

Satan :haha:.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

City, manure and the chavs this year have basically abandoned the serious competition ship. How miserable will it be if we don't take full advantage in at least one tournament!

[Marc Overmars]

City, manure and the chavs this year have basically abandoned the serious competition ship. How miserable will it be if we don't take full advantage in at least one tournament!

Rashford with the winner in the final against us?

[fakeyank]

Rashford with the winner in the final against us?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDLDvBSBFQ

[adzzzbatch]

Come on west ham FFS.

[Kano]

0-0 at Old Trafford.

Another glorious 45 minutes of FA Cup football served up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 0-1 'Ammers, Payet freekick again. :lol:

[Kano]

Payet dives to try and win a penalty.

Then scores an absolute belter of a free kick for 1-0!

[Marc Overmars]

Excellent.

Anyone but United equalling our 12.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 Martial pubs it in.

[Kano]

Martial ruins football.

[adzzzbatch]

Oh FFS!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Varela off injured, Darmian on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 FT.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Crystal Palace v Watford
Everton v Man Utd or West Ham

That is the Semi-final draw.

Us. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

So we could have had the most favourable semi final draw again. :lol:

*sigh*

[Niall_Quinn]

We never deal in half measures when it comes to blowing opportunity.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We never deal in half measures when it comes to blowing opportunity.

Oh yeah.

We blow.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh yeah.

We blow.

And suck.

Full service.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Can't wait for the season to be over already now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

'Ammers 0-0 Man Utd currently, Lingard should have just scored.

[Marc Overmars]

Come on West Ham.

Only thing that would make this season even more putrid is if United equalled our 12.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

West Ham: Randolph, Antonio, Tomkins, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Kouyate, Noble, Valencia, Lanzini, Payet, Carroll.

Man Utd: De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Lingard, Herrera, Martial, Rashford.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Carrick on the volley, wide it drifts.

[GP]

FA Cup :lol:

No one cares about this 2nd rate competition.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

'Ammers 0-1 Man Utd, Rashford. :doh:

[Marc Overmars]

:rolleyes:

[Power n Glory]

Good finish.

[Marc Overmars]

That was a great strike in fairness.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Payet dives, no pelanty.

[adzzzbatch]

This fucking season...

[Power n Glory]

That was a great strike in fairness.

Sorted his feet out quickly and made space for himself.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That was so much like Ian Wright. :sick:

They're already talking Rashford for England though so that'll be another young career ruined.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

'Ammers 0-2 Man Utd, Fellaini well and truly pubs it in.

[Marc Overmars]

Game over.

[Power n Glory]

That was so much like Ian Wright. :sick:

They're already talking Rashford for England though so that'll be another young career ruined.

Very much. I think this next generation of English players will be fine and won't experience the same hype and pressure.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:haha:

Noble carries Herrera off the pitch.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a save from De Gea to deny Antonio..

'Ammers 1-2 Man Utd, Tomkins! Big Andy involved.

[Marc Overmars]

:pray:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Very much. I think this next generation of English players will be fine and won't experience the same hype and pressure.

Is it the hype and pressure that ruins their career or just the fact they aren't very good??

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Carroll heads over. Of course.

[Power n Glory]

Fuck

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Kouyate!

De Gea has to fuck off this summer.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

De Gea is like a brick wall.

Coyote :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rashford off, Wazza on. MotM is Wazza.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Four added minutes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Freekick to the 'Ammers. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deflected over from Payet.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Noble. :haha:

WTF was that?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Why isn't Noble in the England squad?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-2 FT. Man Utd through. :sick:

[Power n Glory]

Entertaining game.

[Marc Overmars]

This season takes another horrific turn.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This season takes another horrific turn.

http://ste.india.com/sites/default/files/2014/10/25/285532-arsene-wenger-waves700.jpg

[adzzzbatch]

:ilt:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton: Joel, Baines, Gibson, Stones, Jagielka, Lennon, Cleverley, McCarthy, Besic, Barkley, Lukaku.

Man Utd: De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney, Martial, Rashford.

Relying on Neverton. :haha:

This can't end well.

[Master Splinter]

Neverton always let you down.

Come on you morans.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good dribble from Martial.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How the fuck hasn't Lukaku scored?!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That has absolutely nothing to do with power and strength but let's just throw it in for cliché watch anyway.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rojo header, wide it goes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barkley goes for goal, easy for De Gea.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rashford pulled it back, no idea why.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Joel saves from Lingard!

[adzzzbatch]

We should've been at Wembley this weekend :(

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lukaku in again, same result.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martial send it sky high.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rashford on the volley, Joel saves.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Fellaini. Oh dear.

[adzzzbatch]

FFS!

[Letters]

Neverton :doh:

[Özim]

Got to say I don't rate Lukaku very highly, reminds me a bit of Heskey, very hit and miss, misses a decent amount of easy chances and lacks the finesse of a top striker.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Prime Neverton.

[Letters]

Oh for goodness sake...

[Letters]

OG :bow:

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stunning finish from Smalling.

[Letters]

By the way (discussing Rooney's new position in midfield and whether it's working)

Shearer: "I think he could play anywhere"


Oh sod off... :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If only Lukaku had a bit more life about him.

[Letters]

Got to say I don't rate Lukaku very highly, reminds me a bit of Heskey, very hit and miss, misses a decent amount of easy chances and lacks the finesse of a top striker.

He's certainly having a mare today.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FFS Neverton!

[Munchies]

ffs comon u bottlers

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Danny Murphy "Whichever side goes through both will rue some of the chances missed"

The side that goes through won't

I'm paying his wage.....

[Letters]

Oh piss off.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Good finish from Martial

[Globalgunner]

Very English defending there.

[Marc Overmars]

This season is just horrible. Mancs will equal our 12. :sick:

[adzzzbatch]

Our record ia going to stand alone for long :(

[adzzzbatch]

This season is just horrible. Mancs will equal our 12. :sick:

:sick: :ilt:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neverton. :banghead:

[Letters]

This season is to Arsenal what this year is to beloved celebs.

:ilt:

[Munchies]

That's our cup FFS

[AFC Leveller]

Martial will be one of the best in the world in a few years. He is such an explosive player and the way he goes past players as if they ain't there is very impressive. He is aggressive in his running and penetration and scores Henryesque goals.

It shows what spending only can do to a team. He has dragged Man ure over the line so many times this season. Wenger said "I didn't know he was for sale"....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace 1-0 Watford, Bolasie.

[AFC Leveller]

Reports suggest Martinez will be sacked later today.

Even Everton of all clubs cant accept underachievement. I wish we had a board who had the balls to fire Wenger, enough is enough.

[Marc Overmars]

Reports suggest Martinez will be sacked later today.

Even Everton of all clubs cant accept underachievement. I wish we had a board who had the balls to fire Wenger, enough is enough.

Every club in the world doesn't accept underachievement and when it happens, there are consequences.

Every club in the world except for us of course.

[Niall_Quinn]

Everton may be a dark horse next season. They have our ex-guy in there now and he's already spending. I reckon Martinez was on the hit list regardless. They'll be stepping this up there next season and so will Liverpool and maybe clubs like West Ham. Leicester will still be a threat. Next season could be the toughest 4th place challenge yet.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I doubt it, they'll probably lose some of their best players and Barkley willl still be there too.

[Niall_Quinn]

I doubt it, they'll probably lose some of their best players and Barkley willl still be there too.

I forgot about Barkley. New manager have to unbuild the team from around him.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

People keep saying it's the best team/squad Everton have had in years. But is it really that good?

Robles is average, Jagielka is 903 and it shows, England's great white hope Stones is dodgy to say the least, Baines' ankles are done, their best centre mid is Gareth fucking Barry, Barkley is brainless, Delulewhatever only plays well when he wants, Lukaku will be gone and their squad isn't that great either with the likes of Oveido, Cleverley, Kone, Niasse (£13 million pounds :lol:)

On a good day they have a good team. But those days are behind a number of these players, they don't happen anywhere near enough for others and even if they do have a bit of money now... so does everyone else.

tl;dr they're finishing 4th next season.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace 2-1 Watford now. Deeney equalised, Wickham has just retaken the lead.