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McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 07:06 AM
Come on Arsenal. :bow:

Kos is out, I thought Kolasinac might be too but I think I saw a photo of his slicked back hair in training, though you couldn't identify his face.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 10:01 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLC0xj4XcAE7xg4.jpg

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 10:41 AM
Ozil's slight injury seems to be getting worse then?

You can always rely on Wenger to lie about what's actually happening at the club.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 10:59 AM
https://vk.com/video416461015_456239019

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:02 AM
21 years of Wenger, to the day. 10 would have done me. 15 was excessive. 21 is uncalled for.

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 11:02 AM
Lacazette almost scores. Thunders it off the post from 30 yards.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:03 AM
Jesus, this bloke Lacazette!

That's what we want to see!

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:04 AM
Brighton: Ryan, Saltor, Duffy, Dunk, Bong, March, Stephens, Propper, Izquierdo, Gross, Brown.
Subs: Krul, Knockaert, Murray, Goldson, Schelotto, Suttner, Molumby.

Izzy Brown. :bow:

Bong. :haha:

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:04 AM
Such a shame that didn't go in.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:05 AM
Xhaka kills us. Backwards when we had the advantage going forward.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:07 AM
Just a matter of time before we score surely? Brighton are wide open at the back.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:08 AM
Alexis shoots, easily saved.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 11:11 AM
Right idea from Xhaka but awful execution with that ball over the top to Kolasinac. Just float it over the top if you can't time it properly.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:13 AM
Bad miss by Iwobi.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:13 AM
Iwobi shoots, Ryan saves.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:14 AM
Iwobi is even worse in front of goal than Welbeck, really needs to work in that area of his game.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:15 AM
Why do commentators repeat the same facts they gave earlier on?

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:16 AM
Bong. :lol:

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 11:16 AM
Monreal!

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:17 AM
About 4 bites at it but eventually Monreal scores it.

1-0

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 11:17 AM
MONREAL!!!

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:17 AM
MONREAL!!!!

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:19 AM
Brighton are tragic defensively. We need to rack up a decent haul here.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:19 AM
Brilliant volleyed cross from Bellerin, he's been getting much better again in recent weeks which is great to see

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:20 AM
How is that not a yellow for the deliberate foul on Cech?

Penguin
01-10-2017, 11:22 AM
Stupid Foul by Kolasinac

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 11:23 AM
Brighton smack the post. Nice strike.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:24 AM
What a strike from March!

Dunk. :haha:

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Almost let them back in there. Nobody fancied closing down the shooter.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 11:26 AM
There's still too big of a gap between our defenders the midfielders.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:27 AM
Never a corner. And the Lino was standing right there.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:27 AM
Wake up Bellerin.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:27 AM
Bong. :haha:

What's he been smoking?

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:28 AM
There's still too big of a gap between our defenders the midfielders.

What defenders? Cech is doing it all on his own right now.

We were controlling this, got cocky with the flicks and the tricks, let Brighton off the hook.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:29 AM
Great run by Iwobi, but he ruined it with the non-finish.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:29 AM
Why Iwobi, why?

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:30 AM
Dunk is a donut.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:32 AM
What an arsehole that ref is.

And why is Xhaka ever allowed within 100 yards of a set piece?

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:32 AM
Good freekick lads.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:33 AM
Really poor by Ramsey.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
01-10-2017, 11:33 AM
Iwobi doing his best Chamberlain impression.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
01-10-2017, 11:33 AM
Lacazette too..

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:33 AM
Ramsey rubberlegs.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:34 AM
Even worse from Ramsey. Why doesn't he just control the ball there rather that going for the Hollywood moment.

And now Lacazette has fluffed a gift.

We should be away and clear here but we've been sloppy again.

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 11:34 AM
Lacashite.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:35 AM
Lacashite.

We need to let his contract run down.

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 11:35 AM
Lacazette fluffs it. shoulda been 2-0

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:36 AM
Oh Iwobi.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:36 AM
Should have slipped in Sanchez then.

We really lack ruthlessness as a team.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:38 AM
Oh, and now the ball's NOT out. WTF? It was almost in the stands.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:38 AM
This ref is absolute dogshite

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:39 AM
Duffy booked. Scrote.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:39 AM
Duffy booked for being drunk.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 11:40 AM
Ramsey's playing as a striker again I see. Showing us all the things he learned from the Chelsea game.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 11:42 AM
Xhaka don't dive in like that you idiot.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:42 AM
Great counter.

Until it arrived at Ramsey.

Should be 3 or 4 by now.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:42 AM
FFS Ramsey.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:42 AM
Xhaka goes for glory.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:42 AM
Nice counter attack. Ramsey fluffs it at the end, not for the first time.

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 11:43 AM
how did we not score?

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:44 AM
Brighton are more involved with tractors than BATE.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:45 AM
I fucking hate the sideways and backwards bullshit. And we always give the ball away in the end, so why not be more ambitious in the first place?

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:45 AM
13 attempts - 1 goal.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
01-10-2017, 11:45 AM
Ramsey should be on his way to 10 already this season.

Özim
01-10-2017, 11:46 AM
To be 1-0 up against Brighton approaching half time is bang average, they are an average team. Not impressed.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:46 AM
HT - we're leading 1-0 in a 3-0 game.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:46 AM
13 attempts - 1 goal.

Wish we were more ambitious.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 11:47 AM
1-0 HT.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 11:48 AM
Ramsey really is the poster boy for the last 10 years under Wenger. Bang average.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:49 AM
Hard to know what to make of Xhaka. Sometimes he seems in control, other times he looks like it's his first attempt at playing the game. Too much sloppy and negative play from him that stalls the momentum of the team. And the defence needs to cut out that pointless sideways passing around, just get the thing forward.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 11:52 AM
Wish we were more ambitious.

So do I. There were 26 attempts up for grabs in that half. Maybe 39. Gulf between these teams.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:01 PM
And the defence needs to cut out that pointless sideways passing around, just get the thing forward.

They do but to be fair sometimes it's hard to get the ball forward when Ramsey switches to his striker role (otherwise known as the idiot mode). The only midfielder they can pass to is Xhaka with a man on him, and you can't blame anyone for having second thoughts before going for that option.

If only we had a midfield.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:04 PM
Really need to put this to bed.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:04 PM
Come on Arsenal. :bow:

Globalgunner
01-10-2017, 12:04 PM
They do but to be fair sometimes it's hard to get the ball forward when Ramsey switches to his striker role (otherwise known as the idiot mode). The only midfielder they can pass to is Xhaka with a man on him, and you can't blame anyone for having second thoughts before going for that option.

If only we had a manager.

If only

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:06 PM
Lacazette shot blocked.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:06 PM
Lacazette hammered it.

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 12:07 PM
Alexis is playing well for Brighton.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:08 PM
Did you know we lost to Liverpool?

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:08 PM
Ramsey?????

Really?

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:09 PM
Ramsey trying a Scholes and failing :doh:

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 12:09 PM
Ramsey :haha:.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:09 PM
Ramsey, why? Fucking idiot.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:09 PM
Wilshere & Giroud bantering on the bench. :bow:

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:10 PM
Took us 100 passes to achieve nothing.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:11 PM
Ramsey not finishing it off again.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
At least Dunk is playing well for us.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
Dunk shoots from way out, Cech saves.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
Alexis is a bit of a God really.

2-0 Iwobi

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
IWOBIT!!!!

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
What a goal! Sanchez :bow:

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 12:12 PM
IWOBI!!!

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:13 PM
IWOBI!!!!

Brilliant from Alexis. :bow:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:13 PM
Alexis :bow::bow:


We all know who the real star player in this team is :bow:

Power n Glory
01-10-2017, 12:13 PM
Cracking finish from Iwobi.

GP
01-10-2017, 12:13 PM
Alexis :bow::bow:


We all know who the real star player in this team is :bow:

Holdini :bow:

Master Splinter
01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
IWOBIT!!!!

Alex Iwobit :bow:.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
Alexis :bow:

Some seriously good stuff from him now, and we should have scored that too.

Power n Glory
01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
Iwobi has been waiting to do that celebration. :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
IWOBIT!!!!

Iwobit. :haha:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
By the way was anyone else worried for a second that Iwobi was going to blaze it over? :unsure:


Such is the confidence I have in our finishing Lacazette aside.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:15 PM
FFS Ramsay!! What the fuck was that?

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Ramsey needs to calm down and then we could take total control of this game. Ramsey's antics are breaking up the play.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
That is just abysmal from Ramsey.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Alex Iwobit :bow:.


Iwobit. :haha:


Don't know what happened there. :wacko:

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
By the way was anyone else worried for a second that Iwobi was going to blaze it over? :unsure:


Such is the confidence I have in our finishing Lacazette aside.

I think we all thought that, considering how bad our finishing has been today. :lol:

Globalgunner
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Ramsey!!!. A really poor man`s Alexis Sanchez.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Nearly brilliant between Ramsay & Saed.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:16 PM
By the way was anyone else worried for a second that Iwobi was going to blaze it over? :unsure:


Such is the confidence I have in our finishing Lacazette aside.

As soon as I saw it wasn't Ramsey I had hope.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
01-10-2017, 12:17 PM
Ramsey trying to take Iwobi's head off for some reason.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
Fuck off Friend :doh:

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
Oooooh, Alexis. Dunk got in the way by accident.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
Alexis sooo close!

Cleared of the line essentially!

Globalgunner
01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
Save of the season???

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
OFF THE LINE AGAIN!

SAED!

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Off the line from Kola's header. Should a scored that really.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Kolasinac header cleared off the line.

GP
01-10-2017, 12:19 PM
It's no exaggeration to say we should be winning 88-0

Thierrymon
01-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Sanchez and kola have shots blocked on the line.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Ramsey!!!. A really poor, blind, deaf and dumb man's Alexis Sanchez.
:gp:

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:21 PM
Ramsey running offside. :rolleyes:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:21 PM
The thing about Ramsey is that he would focus on what he's good at: industry, energy and tenacious instead of trying to be the next Messi or Ronaldo with his silly flicks & tricks in the box, he'd be a beast of a player who'd we all would rate highly.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:22 PM
Need to score three more goals to go above Chelsea.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:23 PM
Mustafi's sweeping :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Darke's 398848374384th mention of our defeat against Liverpool of the match.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Lacazette nearly!

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Lacazette clearly being pulled back there?

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:25 PM
blargh ... Iwobi ruined a possible counter.

Theo & Giroud getting ready.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:26 PM
No defender voted player of the year since the 80's says Darke.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4478329.stm

Globalgunner
01-10-2017, 12:26 PM
Safe to say Welbeck would have filled his boots in this game........with misses

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:26 PM
Wenger bringing Bif and Wally on, for some incredibly stupid reason.

The guy only cares about red zones and energy levels, he couldn't give a shit what's happening in terms of the football.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Looks like Brighton are quite content with the 2-0 loss.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:28 PM
Lacazette & Iwobi off for Theo & Giroud.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:28 PM
Lacazette and Iwobi off, Bif and Walcott on.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:29 PM
Wenger is desperately trying to destroy Lacazette's morale.

Iwobi was getting a bit of confidence from that performance too, so good idea to reward him by subbing him off.

Wenger is a fucking curse. Obviously the stupid cunt thinks professional players aren't capable of playing 90 minutes.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:32 PM
One of Brighton's barflys criticising Alexis for being on the end of his latest foul.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:32 PM
Alexis. :bow:

Citeh. :haha:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:33 PM
Alexis blazes over.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:33 PM
Alexis over the top with the FK.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:33 PM
Over from Alexis.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:35 PM
Have we created anything since Giroud and Theo came on?

It was raining chances before the subs.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:36 PM
Have we created anything since Giroud and Theo came on?

It was raining chances before the subs.

No. Looks like we took the foot off.

A shame as we really could do with boosting our GD especially after the Liverpool debacle (sorry Mac).

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:38 PM
Have we created anything since Giroud and Theo came on?

It was raining chances before the subs.

No. Wenger has done a good job of shutting things down.

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:38 PM
Theo :doh:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:38 PM
Theo you imbecile! :doh:

Would have been magical.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:39 PM
Holding dude ..... got to be stronger & tougher there.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:39 PM
Elneny. :haha:

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:39 PM
Elneny on for Xhaka

Sorry Jack but you've got to sign a contract before you get PL minutes.

hobson's choice
01-10-2017, 12:40 PM
Xhaka is stealing a paycheck.

Another game where he's just there.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:40 PM
Xhaka is stealing a paycheck.

Another game where he's just there.

Even as a Xhaka fan I've got to say he's been a bit shit lately.

Needs to step it up.


FFS Murray just wide!

Penguin
01-10-2017, 12:41 PM
Mustafi didn't jump for that cross. As usual. Why is he THAT bad at dealing with crosses?

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:42 PM
Clown car defending from us there.

FK against Bif now.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:42 PM
For once we needed that arse Wenger to sit on his arse and leave things alone. So he does the opposite.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:44 PM
FFS Mustafi nearly headed that in.


All brighton right now.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Mustafi close with the OG effort.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:46 PM
tbf as shit as we all think Xhaka has been we've basically had zero control of the match as soon as he went off.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 12:47 PM
One of the top 4 teams would have put Brighton to the sword today.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:48 PM
Home crowd leaving early to beat the rush. Besides, Brighton fans were a bit noisy, very distracting.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:50 PM
tbf as shit as we all think Xhaka has been we've basically had zero control of the match as soon as he went off.

He makes mistakes but he knows how to play the role. Elneny fancies himself as a bit of a Ramsey.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 12:51 PM
2-0 FT.

Another thrashing.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 12:51 PM
2 - 0 to the Arsenal the new 1 - 0 to the Arsenal.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Bit depressing having to accept we're so far behind City, Utd, Chelski and even the spuds.

Liverpool have a better attack than us but their defence is woeful so overall I'd have us on a par with them.

5th or 6th is the best we can hope for this season.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 12:53 PM
FT 2-0

Should have been 22-0

That crackpot shit cunt Wenger spotted a bit of entertainment and stamped on it. But until the stupid cunt intervened, it was watchable, if not a bit frustrating in places.

Some great stuff in spurts from Alexis.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-10-2017, 01:02 PM
Bit depressing having to accept we're so far behind City, Utd, Chelski and even the spuds.

Liverpool have a better attack than us but their defence is woeful so overall I'd have us on a par with them.

5th or 6th is the best we can hope for this season.

City look amazing.

So do United but they haven't played a top six yet ..... they've really had a rather easy run so far so I don't get the OTT hysterical reaction to their performances from the media.

Spuds are playing some neat stuff but they're so reliant on a handful of quality players (Kane, Erkiesen etc) that I can easily see it falling away for them in usual Spurs style once fatigue & injuries hit.

We're certainly not good enough to challenge this year but I think we've good enough to get top four which tbh, I'd take at this stage. It's important we don't do a Liverpool and turn a year outside of CL football into a decade.

Gooner23
01-10-2017, 01:37 PM
I have no doubt other teams will have their wobbles but I just see too many flaws in our current set up to have any real cause for optimism.

Would love to be proved wrong but I can't see us getting back into CL next season.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 01:53 PM
Very odd situation, years and years of top 4. Fail to make it once, no chance of getting back in. :unsure:

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 03:06 PM
Very odd situation, years and years of top 4. Fail to make it once, no chance of getting back in. :unsure:

That's not the situation though. Situation is a manager getting worse every year, taking a great team and dropping it out of title contention, then slowly degrading things further until he drops it out of the CL. And he's getting worse still, as we see with his crackpot selections and subs and his ever growing hatred of consistency and momentum. So the direction is clear enough, down. There's no going back up under this self absorbed clown. I just wish he'd fuck off, but I bet the old cunt hangs on until he passes Ferguson's record of time at the club. Who knows where we'll be once the incompetent shit has worked his unique magic over that amount of time.

McNamara That Ghost...
01-10-2017, 09:19 PM
Suddenly Wenger achieving Top 4 isn't all he strives for?

It strikes me here that there is an over exaggeration that only seeks to undermine your otherwise reasonable position.

Niall_Quinn
01-10-2017, 10:56 PM
Suddenly Wenger achieving Top 4 isn't all he strives for?

It strikes me here that there is an over exaggeration that only seeks to undermine your otherwise reasonable position.

I'm still angry the bloke decided to stay on. And twice as angry he ran to Kroenke and bypassed his alleged boss. A thrice angry that absolutely nothing seems to have been learned or changed since the last thoroughly unremarkable season that was only unpredictable because we didn't scrape the hallowed top 4 spot. After so many attempts and so many depressingly familiar outcomes, this guy definitely knows he's past it and is dragging on the club like an anchor. He always said he'd leave under such circumstances so he's a liar. Selfish, devious, disrespectful of the club hierarchy and a liar. And that's before we get to his antics in terms of the team and match days. Why the hell does he refuse to play Lacazette for 90 minutes? Why does he play everyone in the wrong positions? Why is he playing Nelson in defence FFS! What was all that pre-season nonsense with Elneny about What the hell was he up to before and during that Liverpool hiding? Why is he claiming the contract situations with Alexis and Ozil are ideal? What the hell was all that dragging of feet over a realistic bid for Lemar, followed by the ridiculous 92 million bid when the player was about to head onto the pitch in a World Cup qualifier? How does he not have a settled starting eleven yet?

We can't be having this bloke around the club. It's totally ridiculous. What the fucking hell is going on? I'm starting to hate his guts. Doubt I'm the only one.

It's not just the football any more. If it was just the football then really, who cares? It's more. I see him as an all too depressing example of the corporate shit heap that has deluged every aspect of life. Wenger, for me, is becoming the poster goat for everything that is wrong with sport and society in general. And, here's the best bit, he plays the role of champion for the beautiful and pure game, for fair play and even handed finances. Yet he's the exact opposite when it comes to his own situation. Hypocrite extraordinaire.

Power n Glory
02-10-2017, 08:54 AM
Suddenly Wenger achieving Top 4 isn't all he strives for?

It strikes me here that there is an over exaggeration that only seeks to undermine your otherwise reasonable position.

As said some years back, Wenger never faced a situation where there were 4 other teams with squads better or on par with ours that could knock us out of the top 4. Now it's a real dog fight for that spot. If any of our rivals fail to make top 4, it will be regarded as a disappointing season and result in possible job losses. Except Arsenal of course. ;)

McNamara That Ghost...
02-10-2017, 09:45 AM
That's entering more in to subjectivity, I think we will be Top 4 for what it's worth though.

We could always win the Europa League I guess.

Niall_Quinn
02-10-2017, 10:00 AM
That's entering more in to subjectivity, I think we will be Top 4 for what it's worth though.

We could always win the Europa League I guess.

We'll need several of the genuine contenders to go total FUBAR for us to float above them in the final reckoning. It's not up to us where we finish, it's up to other clubs. We don't have enough consistency, organisation or stability to take things into our own hands and we are always one teetering step away from total collapse and a million miles away from genuine control.

Bloody dreadful manager in charge here, and an owner who couldn't give a rat's arse. What do we expect, I suppose?

You really would think we'd have a crack at the Europa. Arsenal FC FFS! Of course we should be looking at winning that. But we won't. Wenger will find a way to fuck it up.

McNamara That Ghost...
02-10-2017, 10:18 AM
If we were talking about the title I could understand your first paragraph.

Niall_Quinn
02-10-2017, 10:33 AM
If we were talking about the title I could understand your first paragraph.

Do we even bother to talk about the title any more? That's literally become silly talk at this club, and that's the true measure of the damage done by the wankers in charge.

Power n Glory
02-10-2017, 11:13 AM
I'm still angry the bloke decided to stay on. And twice as angry he ran to Kroenke and bypassed his alleged boss. A thrice angry that absolutely nothing seems to have been learned or changed since the last thoroughly unremarkable season that was only unpredictable because we didn't scrape the hallowed top 4 spot. After so many attempts and so many depressingly familiar outcomes, this guy definitely knows he's past it and is dragging on the club like an anchor. He always said he'd leave under such circumstances so he's a liar. Selfish, devious, disrespectful of the club hierarchy and a liar. And that's before we get to his antics in terms of the team and match days. Why the hell does he refuse to play Lacazette for 90 minutes? Why does he play everyone in the wrong positions? Why is he playing Nelson in defence FFS! What was all that pre-season nonsense with Elneny about What the hell was he up to before and during that Liverpool hiding? Why is he claiming the contract situations with Alexis and Ozil are ideal? What the hell was all that dragging of feet over a realistic bid for Lemar, followed by the ridiculous 92 million bid when the player was about to head onto the pitch in a World Cup qualifier? How does he not have a settled starting eleven yet?

We can't be having this bloke around the club. It's totally ridiculous. What the fucking hell is going on? I'm starting to hate his guts. Doubt I'm the only one.

It's not just the football any more. If it was just the football then really, who cares? It's more. I see him as an all too depressing example of the corporate shit heap that has deluged every aspect of life. Wenger, for me, is becoming the poster goat for everything that is wrong with sport and society in general. And, here's the best bit, he plays the role of champion for the beautiful and pure game, for fair play and even handed finances. Yet he's the exact opposite when it comes to his own situation. Hypocrite extraordinaire.

Nope. You're not alone.

Niall_Quinn
02-10-2017, 11:37 AM
Nope. You're not alone.

Any man can try to do a job and do it badly, even if he makes the best effort. He can want to succeed, he can strive to succeed and he can fail. There's nothing wrong in that. The problem comes when he turns around and starts blaming everyone bar himself for the failures. That's where the vitriol comes from. Everyone was prepared to say you tried, you failed, thanks for all the times you succeeded and we wish you luck in your future endeavours. That was thrown back in our faces as betrayal and disloyalty. We became the reason the team failed, in his eyes. Along with chav money, transfer inflation, fixture schedules, the wrong kind of leaves on the track, anything he could conjure up. There comes a point where goodwill runs out and that time has come and gone. And to get a pay rise for taking us out of the CL, that bare minimum he covets as the trophy of all trophies. He has no problem taking advantage of inflated salaries himself, I notice. He could have faced the stone cold facts of his record over the last 10 years, accepted there was widespread discontent with his performance and resolved to compensate for his shameful acceptance of a new contract by trying something new. But he's pushing on with the same tired old shit, utterly unrepentant. A figure like that can't be liked and can't be respected. He's brought it all on himself. Not that he seems to care. The ultimate man in a bubble.

Power n Glory
02-10-2017, 02:39 PM
Any man can try to do a job and do it badly, even if he makes the best effort. He can want to succeed, he can strive to succeed and he can fail. There's nothing wrong in that. The problem comes when he turns around and starts blaming everyone bar himself for the failures. That's where the vitriol comes from. Everyone was prepared to say you tried, you failed, thanks for all the times you succeeded and we wish you luck in your future endeavours. That was thrown back in our faces as betrayal and disloyalty. We became the reason the team failed, in his eyes. Along with chav money, transfer inflation, fixture schedules, the wrong kind of leaves on the track, anything he could conjure up. There comes a point where goodwill runs out and that time has come and gone. And to get a pay rise for taking us out of the CL, that bare minimum he covets as the trophy of all trophies. He has no problem taking advantage of inflated salaries himself, I notice. He could have faced the stone cold facts of his record over the last 10 years, accepted there was widespread discontent with his performance and resolved to compensate for his shameful acceptance of a new contract by trying something new. But he's pushing on with the same tired old shit, utterly unrepentant. A figure like that can't be liked and can't be respected. He's brought it all on himself. Not that he seems to care. The ultimate man in a bubble.

I despise him because of the way he’s used his position of power and misled the fans. If he’s able to bypass the usual pecking order to speak directly to Stan Kroenke about renewing his contract, why hasn’t he been able to convince Stan to invest more money into this club if indeed that’s what’s holding us back? If he has the owners respect and trust, why is he not taking the concerns of the fans to the owner?

I won’t forget the way he has backed the club to raise ticket prices on fans or how he’s back not lowering ticket prices since the new TV money has come through. He’s able to get the club to greenlight projects for a new Youth Academy training ground, a new stadium and all, a socialist wage structure but I’m supposed to believe he couldn’t have squeezed more out of them when it comes to transfers and buying the right player? The guy is out for himself and has been allowed to indulge in how own vanity projects. He sits with the fans week in week and hears the concerns from grounds and even from his own players but he doesn’t give a shit. Any appeal to do things differently gets disregarded. How happened this summer is enough evidence.