Match reaction - goblins

[Cripps]

Burnley :haha:

Great win cause if Burnley won they would have gone above Chelsea :doh:

Letters :haha:

"They'll lose at Burnley next week" :haha:

Top 4 :bow:

Wenger :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger OUT!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Its happened again...

[Master Splinter]

Lee Mason :bow:.

Burnley cavemen on the pitch :haha:.

Burnley scum in the crowd :haha:.

Wenger :bow:.

Ramsey :bow:.

Alexis Crapsez :bow:.

[Niall_Quinn]

Spuds - mind the gap!

[Cripps]

Their fans :haha:

[Cripps]

Lee mason with security around him :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Just goes to show - you need to dive if you want the pen. Defender pushes him in the back with both hands, Ramsey goes down (he felt the touch, there was contact, etc, etc, etc,) and the ref blows. A very routine pen in the PL so where's the fuss?

[Cripps]

Just goes to show - you need to dive if you want the pen. Defender pushes him in the back with both hands, Ramsey goes down (he felt the touch, there was contact, etc, etc, etc,) and the ref blows. A very routine pen in the PL so where's the fuss?

I'm glad he dived.

It makes the win even sweeter.

Spurs and Liverpool fans will be extra fuming.

[hobson's choice]

Yeah we won

Top 4:scarf:

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm glad he dived.

It makes the win even sweeter.

Spurs and Liverpool fans will be extra fuming.

He was being professional, for a change.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Didn't recognise it as a dive myself but whatever....

[Xhaka Can’t]

When asked if it was a make up call for the non penalty award earlier in the match, Craig Forrest reckoned that wasn't a penalty either.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Didn't recognise it as a dive myself but whatever....

The only question is how many games the FA give Ramsey for the dive.

[Niall_Quinn]

Didn't recognise it as a dive myself but whatever....

It wasn't a dive, by PL standards. It was an overreaction to a push - which, as the likes of Shearer will tell you, is professional. But it's a bonus if the pit fiends from Burnley have convinced themselves it was a dive. They are raging Mason only gave them 98% of the decisions and then let them down on the big one.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jofnn was at the game (supporting Burnley) so I think we should await his match report. :popcorn:

[Marc Overmars]

Burnley. :lol:

They must hate us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jofnn was at the game (supporting Burnley) so I think we should await his match report. :popcorn:

Well and truly outed.

[Niall_Quinn]

Burnley. :lol:

They must hate us.

They hate everyone up there who's not undead.

[Letters]

Wenger :bow:

[Cripps]

It wasn't a dive, by PL standards. It was an overreaction to a push - which, as the likes of Shearer will tell you, is professional. But it's a bonus if the pit fiends from Burnley have convinced themselves it was a dive. They are raging Mason only gave them 98% of the decisions and then let them down on the big one.

MOTD:pal:

Have to begrudgingly analyse arsenal winning 2 weeks in a row:pal:

[Marc Overmars]

They hate everyone up there who's not undead.

Maccy is undead?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maccy is undead?

Look at my username tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maccy is undead?

How long have you been posting here?

[Letters]

Awful manager :bow:
Average squad :bow:

[Cripps]

They hate everyone up there who's not undead.

Burnley rivalry to be the new stoke :popcorn:

[Niall_Quinn]

Burnley rivalry to be the new stoke :popcorn:

Nah. I used to watch Preston when I was living up there. But I got better.

[Letters]

Nah. I used to watch Preston when I was living up there. But I got better.

MK Dons :bow:

[Cripps]

Nah. I used to watch Preston when I was living up there. But I got better.

Burnley are a lot more likeable than stoke

Their fans seem to admit it was a pen and vent frustration at their player for making a silly decision

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23052&start=150

[Niall_Quinn]

4th division battles against Crewe on a wet Wednesday night? I was there, propped up against the standing barriers.

[dostoy]

I am really surprised because with the incentive of going above the Spuds and Liverpool, I thought there was no way that Arsenal would win this game.

I saw bit of it and Burnley were very physical and Ramsey needed a bit of treatment after a body check he got.

Arsenal are in 4th now and that is the ceiling of their ambition, but can they hold on to 4th place ?

Wenger GTFO as always and forever.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think Wenger could legislate for a last minute penalty. Otherwise he was on course to pass up the opportunity as usual. He just got unlucky at the very end.

[Master Splinter]

I wonder if they'll show replays of Burnley getting a free-kick for Ramsey being smashed in the face.

Or Brady taking out Bellerin in the box.

Or Barnes diving all over the place.

MOTD highlights will consist of a few Burnley shots, their crowd hissing with their tongues out, Alexis scoring and Dyche crying for ten minutes.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I don't like Dyche. I almost want him to become Everton manager so I have more reason not to like him,

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder if they'll show replays of Burnley getting a free-kick for Ramsey being smashed in the face.

Or Brady taking out Bellerin in the box.

Or Barnes diving all over the place.

MOTD highlights will consist of a few Burnley shots, their crowd hissing with their tongues out, Alexis scoring and Dyche crying for ten minutes.

They might just edit in the Pires dive. After last week's "highlights" I wouldn't put anything past them.

[Master Splinter]

I don't like Dyche. I almost want him to become Everton manager so I have more reason not to like him,

All these Little Englanders are a hateful bunch with a victim mentality far beyond their limited ability.

The gravel-voiced turd just admitted it was a pelanty but then suggested it was all a conspiracy a second later. The small-minded football culture in this country just feeds their pathetic egos.

[Cripps]

They might just edit in the Pires dive. After last week's "highlights" I wouldn't put anything past them.

:lol:

[Master Splinter]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42042017

Funny to see Dyche 'raging' but the scummy interviewer is trying to turn it into the controversy of the decade. I think it's Guy Mowbray, who is a slimy little fuck.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42042017

Funny to see Dyche 'raging' but the scummy interviewer is trying to turn it into the controversy of the decade. I think it's Guy Mowbray, who is a slimy little fuck.

Helps the filth get clicks to their exposed and dying nonsense fake news sites.

[AFC Leveller]

The BBC are a bunch of cunts, the lot of em. They never report what actually goes on, they have an agenda and will always be hated.

If anybody watched their highlights of our win last week they'd think Spurs were unlucky. Stupid cunts.

[Niall_Quinn]

The BBC are a bunch of cunts, the lot of em. They never report what actually goes on, they have an agenda and will always be hated.

If anybody watched their highlights of our win last week they'd think Spurs were unlucky. Stupid cunts.

Lots of sad fucks think the BBC is real.

[Niall_Quinn]

Can we throw queers and the media into a burning pit

I'll help add the fuel.

Leave the queers alone. They have enough trouble with the liberals who keep piping up on their behalf.

The media? Yes, I'll get the petrol. Let's chuck the liberals in too, for their own good.

[Cripps]

Lots of sad fucks think the BBC is real.

About as real as Firminho's teeth.

[Master Splinter]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPbYooyXkAE5OGq.jpg

https://twitter.com/FTurfMoor/status/934172255549980672


:haha:

Also, WTF is 14:00PM?

[Özim]

Awful manager :bow:
Average squad :bow:

This......just might be....your best post yet. :bow:

[Özim]

Another scraped in, on we go, lucky Wenger survives another day!

[Letters]

Another scraped in, on we go, lucky Wenger survives another day!

Cheer up!
We might lose the next one
:hug:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Cheer up!
We might lose the next one
:hug:

Seeing as IÂ’ll be there, itÂ’s a possibility.

I’m only going to see Huddersfield Town in the Premier League.

[Özim]

Cheer up!
We might lose the next one
:hug:

Don't worry Wenger probably has a a few years left in him yet :console:

[Cripps]

Don't worry Wenger probably has a a few years left in him yet :console:

:lol:

Zim takes another one

That makes it Zim 45369788888 - 0 Letters.

Letters :pal:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not this shit again.

Can't we just laugh at House Stark?

[Letters]

Seeing as IÂ’ll be there, itÂ’s a possibility.

I’m only going to see Huddersfield Town in the Premier League.

Think FY is globetrotting again so should be ok.

[Letters]

Not this shit again.

Can't we just laugh at House Stark?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUTH7TDqp48

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

About as real as Firminho's teeth.

LOL

[Cripps]

Ramsey :haha: :bow:

That was soft. He done a proper Tom Daley dive:bow:

Same again next week please.

[Niall_Quinn]

Shit. Burnley beat us on MOTD2 :doh:

Do we get to keep the 3 points?

And the BBC are doing expected goals on the post game stats :doh:

BBC :haha:

#fakeNews

[Cripps]

Wagner :lol:
Awful Klopp.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Burnley 'outfootballed' us in the first half according to Mowbray. I must have been watching the wrong stream.

[Letters]

Think FY is globetrotting again so should be ok.

:lol: He is. He's gone to Bali

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42132912

FY :pal:

[selassie]

That result was worth the uproar in the media alone. The manner in which we snatched victory from the claws of a draw, lovely stuff.

Top 4 is going to be a real battle this season, I'm still not convinced we will make it but it's fun all the same.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That result was worth the uproar in the media alone. The manner in which we snatched victory from the claws of a draw, lovely stuff.

Top 4 is going to be a real battle this season, I'm still not convinced we will make it but it's fun all the same.

Fun? If you say so

[Letters]

Yes, it's not going to be fun and it is going to be a real scrap but as we have the Luckiest Manager in Football we should be OK.

[selassie]

Fun? If you say so

Like a rollercoaster ;)

I'm a glass half full man, I don't think we will make it, our away form is way too patchy to bail us out IMO.

Moreover I still maintain that we are the 6th best team in the league so any place higher than 6th will be higher than I expect us to finish.

[Cripps]

Spurs fan in the office:

"Did you enjoy our 1-1 draw against 17th placed west brom?"

:haha:

[selassie]

Yes, it's not going to be fun and it is going to be a real scrap but as we have the Luckiest Manager in Football we should be OK.

The fun part is more the media reaction to us actually being involved in the race. Wenger is lucky but he has real competition now, he will do well to get us into the top 4 this season given the competition and is lack of tactical nous etc.

[Marc Overmars]

Like a rollercoaster ;)

I'm a glass half full man, I don't think we will make it, our away form is way too patchy to bail us out IMO.

Moreover I still maintain that we are the 6th best team in the league so any place higher than 6th will be higher than I expect us to finish.

I don’t see why we can’t finish 4th, we’re flaky as hell but when all is said and done we’ll be in the mix. We missed out last season by a point, which was bound to happen at some point given how close we tend to sail to the margins.

Under normal circumstances I don’t give a fuck about the 4th place trophy but given the likelihood of losing Alexis and Ozil, we’re going to need CL football to help with the rebuilding process.

[selassie]

I don’t see why we can’t finish 4th, we’re flaky as hell but when all is said and done we’ll be in the mix. We missed out last season by a point, which was bound to happen at some point given how close we tend to sail to the margins.

Under normal circumstances I don’t give a fuck about the 4th place trophy but given the likelihood of losing Alexis and Ozil, we’re going to need CL football to help with the rebuilding process.

4th is most definitely a possibility so I won't completely rule us out. I don't think we can afford our annual collapse though because we have already lost 4 games so our annual collapse really needs to be avoided this season.

Me too re: 4th, if we finish outside the top 4 again this season then we'll be right in the shit with the rebuilding process which is going to be a big job anyway.

[Letters]

The fun part is more the media reaction to us actually being involved in the race. Wenger is lucky but he has real competition now, he will do well to get us into the top 4 this season given the competition and is lack of tactical nous etc.

Wenger is lucky only in that he is working at a club where he is held to account in the same way he would be at other clubs.
In terms of results, he is no luckier than any other manager. We can cherry pick games where he's been lucky and ones where he hasn't, overall though I've no idea by what magic fairy dust anyone thinks he has been particularly lucky.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Who cares though. The only achievement is a title challenge

[Letters]

Who cares though. The only achievement is a title challenge

We're well ahead in terms of expected trophies though.

Wenger :bow:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Purely on personnel I actually put us at 3rd or 4th so I never saw 4th as some impossiblity but there's a lot to do yet. I'd rather us win the FA cup and or Europa league.....though admittedly top 4 is important for the rebuilding.

[Letters]

City are looking in a world of their own but after that I don't think there's a lot in it. We could finish anywhere between 2nd and 6th, very hard to call IMO.

[Cripps]

Finish 6th
Spurs finish 4th
We win Europa
Spurs don't get CL

Wenger masterstroke incoming :bow:

[Özim]

Yes, it's not going to be fun and it is going to be a real scrap but as we have the Luckiest Manager in Football we should be OK.

Hallelujah at last you're seeing the light, common sense prevails!

We're kinda lucky he is so lucky, because he's an awful manager.

[Letters]

We're kinda lucky he is so lucky, because he's an awful manager.
Don't forget with an average squad.
But we're in the top 4 right now, purely by luck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyt4KFyVQQ8

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Finish 6th
Spurs finish 4th
We win Europa
Spurs don't get CL

Wenger masterstroke incoming :bow:
Spurs would still make the Champions League wouldn't they? Or have I missed a rule change? If one of the three above them won it however...

[Cripps]

Spurs would still make the Champions League wouldn't they? Or have I missed a rule change? If one of the three above them won it however...

:doh: I got the Europa league mixed up with champions league and the year chelsea won it

Vieira :pal:

Is there under any circumstances spurs would drop out? I would love that.

[Letters]

Spurs would still make the Champions League wouldn't they? Or have I missed a rule change? If one of the three above them won it however...

:lol:

Maccy takes another one

That makes it Maccy 45369788888 - 0 Vieira.

Vieira :pal:



:coffee:

[Cripps]

Hallelujah at last you're seeing the light, common sense prevails!

We're kinda lucky he is so lucky, because he's an awful manager.

:lol: you've really got to stop doing this. Zim schools again. Letters needs to start calling you Sir Zim :lol:

Zim once again proving he's the best poster on here :bow:

[Cripps]

:lol: timing :bow:

[Letters]

3/10. Tops.

[Cripps]

3/10. Tops.

:trophy:

[Globalgunner]

Cech says we have turned a corner again.

We keep turning corners. Dont they know that after turning 3 corners, you are facing the same direction as in the beginning.

[Özim]

Cech says we have turned a corner again.

We keep turning corners. Dont they know that after turning 3 corners, you are facing the same direction as in the beginning.

There's a lot of corners at this club, won't be long before we turn the corner and are 2% away from domination again, especially with all that spirit and togetherness and mental strength.

[Cripps]

Have we had our annual team meeting yet where the team decide to respond with strength and unity and give themselves a kick up the back side? :lol:

[Özim]

Like a rollercoaster ;)

I'm a glass half full man, I don't think we will make it, our away form is way too patchy to bail us out IMO.

Moreover I still maintain that we are the 6th best team in the league so any place higher than 6th will be higher than I expect us to finish.

At the end of the day we have no CL which everyone always hails as an advantage and yet we're laggin well behind, frankly it's a very poor show, most of this season has been a poor show, scraping wins, average performances, nothing about us is convincing, but 4th place is nothing to ride home about, it's only in football where 4th place is hailed as some sort of success, in most other sports it's failure.

Money talks as they say. I hope we don't get 4th, there's no point with Wenger in charge, it just means another humiliation in the CL. I really only want us to be in the CL when we can compete and with this guy in charge there's no hope, 20 years of failure at that level proves that.

[Marc Overmars]

Have we had our annual team meeting yet where the team decide to respond with strength and unity and give themselves a kick up the back side? :lol:

No that usually happens in the second half of the season when we've completely bombed.

[Cripps]

At the end of the day we have no CL which everyone always hails as an advantage and yet we're laggin well behind, frankly it's a very poor show, most of this season has been a poor show, scraping wins, average performances, nothing about us is convincing, but 4th place is nothing to ride home about, it's only in football where 4th place is hailed as some sort of success, in most other sports it's failure.

Money talks as they say. I hope we don't get 4th, there's no point with Wenger in charge, it just means another humiliation in the CL. I really only want us to be in the CL when we can compete and with this guy in charge there's no hope, 20 years of failure at that level proves that.

I agree I prefer the last minute winners in the EL even if they're against a bunch of farmers compared to a thumping against bayern.

Completely had enough of CL and having 4000 goes at it and getting nowhere. Feels good to be recognised as top dogs in a european competition.

I get the reason for needing CL as ozil and Sanchez are leaving but we managed to attract Lacuntzette without CL. Money talks.

[Özim]

I agree I prefer the last minute winners in the EL even if they're against a bunch of farmers compared to a thumping against bayern.

Completely had enough of CL and having 4000 goes at it and getting nowhere. Feels good to be recognised as top dogs in a european competition.

I get the reason for needing CL as ozil and Sanchez are leaving but we managed to attract Lacuntzette without CL. Money talks.

Me too, the predictability of our CL performance made it so boring, we knew from the day we were in it we wouldn't get anywhere and there's no pleasure in that. At least with the Europa league we're not sure where it will end, we may not win it but at least we won't be going out in the last 16 whilst getting humbled by a decent team in the last 16 every season.

Only any point in being in the CL if you're going to give it a go and have an ambition of winning it, our attitude stinks we only ever just made up the numbers (certainly in the last 10 years anyway).

I agree money talks, the bigger issue is Wenger, noone is going to believe this guy is going to win us anything or has any ambition, if you were a footballer would you rather sign for an ambitious young manager with ambitions some sort of plan to be successful, or some old dinosaur who thinks 4th place is what it's all about? With him in charge it's probably even more difficult to attract decent players.

[Özim]

Don't forget with an average squad.
But we're in the top 4 right now, purely by luck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyt4KFyVQQ8

I'm liking the new Letters, talking sense at last after years of nonsense.

Keep up the good work :good:

[Cripps]

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:doh: I got the Europa league mixed up with champions league and the year chelsea won it

Vieira :pal:

Is there under any circumstances spurs would drop out? I would love that.

I think it would happen if a Top 3 team were to win the Champions League also with Tottenham finishing fourth.

And if we won the Europa League then we'd qualify and Spurs wouldn't. In fact technically you could say the Spuds would lose out on that place to us.

[Cripps]

Come on city :bow:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I was under the impression they allow 5 English teams in those peculiar circumstances now....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah that might be right. Maybe it's only if Champions League and Europa League winners finish outside of the top four.

It's all a bit more confusing this year on what might happen as the Top 4 automatically qualify for the Champions League.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wenger is lucky only in that he is working at a club where he is held to account in the same way he would be at other clubs.
In terms of results, he is no luckier than any other manager. We can cherry pick games where he's been lucky and ones where he hasn't, overall though I've no idea by what magic fairy dust anyone thinks he has been particularly lucky.

He wasn’t lucky in the 50th game at OT. That still fucking pisses me off.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don’t think he’s lucky with individual results. I don’t think we deserved to beat Burnley on Sunday but if one of their players pushes one of ours in the box it’s not unreasonable to expect a penalty should be given.

I think he’s been lucky in the sense that other teams around us in the race for 4th have totally capitulated

2006 - spurs and the lasagne shits
2009 - Aston Villa completely pooing themselves from end of February
2012 - spurs drawing at Villa on the penultimate weekend of the season, allowing us to get third so we weren’t affected by Chelsea’s champions league win
2014 - Everton having a bum explosion when they could have pipped us to 4th by losing at home to palace and away at Southampton
2016 - Spurs 5-1 defeat away at already relegated Newcastle

[Letters]

There is something in that.
2006, to an extent although I don't think the lasagna thing affected them as much as they make out, they pretty much had a full strength team out. There is always a touch of fortune about relying on another result to go our way though.
I checked 2009 and although Villa did indeed poo themselves they were never that far ahead of us. 5 points at the end of Feb and we finished miles ahead of them and Everton, We won 8 of our last 11, that isn't luck.
2012...suppose so although we were 5 points clear of Spurs before we had a late season wobble so it was us who nearly threw it away on that occasion.
2014. We were 4th with 5 games to go but Everton were only a point behind us and had a game in hand. We won our last 5 games so while we did finish further above Everton than we might have I'd say we earned that one.
2016, we were lucky to finish 2nd but there's very little real difference between 2nd and 3rd, Spurs lost interest when they knew they wouldn't be Champions.

There have been some occasions where we have scraped into the top 4 or had to rely on other results, there are often fine lines in football. Overall though I don't think he has been especially lucky.