Match Reaction v Everton (away).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Another defeat. :bow:

In for a relegation fight if something doesn't change. Already are I suppose really, although fight is a bit presumptuous at this stage.

Another goal I suppose, which is almost like a win these days.

[Niall_Quinn]

If we keep doing the same thing, maybe we'll get a different result.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sorry N_Q, merged the threads, mine must have just been before by a second or so.

[Niall_Quinn]

My title was better because you've added undue credibility.

[Marc Overmars]

I don’t know about anyone else but I’m really surprised that heroic point at home to Southampton hasn’t proven to be a turning point.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No way we’re getting relegated. There is too much talent, fight and managerial nous for that to happen.

[Mac76]

credit where it's due we had a go in the second half and if Auba had been on the pitch we might have got something

Martinelli should definitely start the next game

[Niall_Quinn]

I don’t know about anyone else but I’m really surprised that heroic point at home to Southampton hasn’t proven to be a turning point.

What we need now is a meeting of the players to clear the air.

I just hope Arteta doesn't let off another massive fart.

[Bumble]

i suppose at least we didnt get thrashed and we did force a good save at the end. but not sure what to say... central midfield is just woeful.

Chelsea next which wont be fun. Then we have some real six pointers with Brighton, Palace, Newcastle. These are must win games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

My title was better because you've added undue credibility.

You've won the title. When will we hear that said about us? :lol:

Premier League that is, not Championship.

[Niall_Quinn]

You've won the title. When will we hear that said about us? :lol:

Premier League that is, not Championship.

Moral victory.

[Niall_Quinn]

2 shots on target the whole game. Progress.

[Marc Overmars]

credit where it's due we had a go in the second half and if Auba had been on the pitch we might have got something

Martinelli should definitely start the next game

There is no credit due. We always have a go, the problem is that we’re just fucking shit and coached by a cone man.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well at least we should pick up points against City :doh:

[rodders]

This side will be relegated

[Niall_Quinn]

This side will be relegated

Nah, we're a big club.

[Globalgunner]

I finished a whole pack of Opal fruits or Starburst i guess they call them now, while watching this match. It was good. Maybe by Monday this rookie experiment will be over.

[Bumble]

i dont want to me negative.... but i think we wont make Champions League places this season. i know we deserve to be there because as NQ says we are a big club. But i just have a feeling we will fall short.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No shots on target in the second half when we need to chase the game. :haha:

[Bumble]

I finished a whole pack of Opal fruits or Starburst i guess they call them now, while watching this match. It was good. Maybe by Monday this rookie experiment will be over.

yeah i read somewhere they might be changing the name back to Opal fruits.

[Bumble]

No shots on target in the second half when we need to chase the game. :haha:

there was one Saka in about 5th min of injury time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

there was one Saka in about 5th min of injury time.

Oh.

[selassie]

This game was a write off for me so not surprised about the outcome. Chelsea game is a write off too, though I think they will thrash us.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I think we can all now agree that Ozil was the problem.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We created enough chances not to lose the game apparently. :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Noth worth anyone's time to list everything that is wrong.

But once again, all the positive stuff came from the younger players. AMN, Saka, Tierney and Willock were the only ones attempting something different. Even Martinelli showed more in a few one-twos and his movement than the senior attackers have shown in years.

That players like Willian, Ceballos, Pepe, Xhaka and Lacazette have continually been picked over younger guys with more talent, energy, nous and basic professionalism is the biggest indictment of Arteta. These experienced turds have showed time and time again during their Arsenal career that they offer almost nothing positive.

"Just play the kids" is a cliche when things are going badly, but the marked difference in performance between the younger and senior players is now so obvious that it's self-harm to not even give them a chance while nothing changes on the pitch. We've been saying this for a while now under different managers, but at this point, there really is nothing to lose so why continue to inflict dross like Willian upon everyone?

You could see a scenario where a team feautring Martinelli, Nelson, Smith Rowe, Willock, AMN and a few others beats Citeh in the League Cup and Arteta then reverts to the same old shit in the League. It would just underline his descent into incomprehensible madness.

[Letters]

i suppose at least we didnt get thrashed.

:lol:

This is what we are reduced to :ilt:

[Xhaka Can’t]

We responded well.

Dominated.

Spirit. Fight.

Generating enough chances to score goals.

Difficult playing a team that only defends.

The boys are fighting. They are together. You can see that on the pitch.

Fuck off.

[Letters]

i dont want to me negative.... but i think we wont make Champions League places this season.

I'll judge that at the end of the season :sulk:

[Gooner23]

4 points off the relegation zone.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta told Sky Sports: "Without conceding much we lost the game on two key moments.

"We reacted really well. We dominated the game. We created enough chances at least to not lose. We hit the bar. We don’t have the luck.

"We are in a big fight. We lost against Burnley without them having a shot on target, and now we lose because of a couple of chances.

"It’s really difficult when you play a team who are defending low and wasting time. We make it difficult for ourselves conceding the first goal.

"I think we had 15 shots but only two on target. We need to improve our rate, that’s the reality.

"We need to generate more to win football matches. When it comes to small details, the other team wants it more.

"The boys are absolutely still fighting. They’re hurt right now."

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

The Chelsea match doesn’t matter. It is Brighton and West Brom after which is shaping up to be huge.

Only Sheffield United have lost more games than us. This is the worst Arsenal team in decades and they haven’t shown anything this season that suggests they’re too good to go down.

[Bumble]

:lol:

oh no, he is starting to blame luck.

[Bumble]

The Chelsea match doesn’t matter. It is Brighton and West Brom after which is shaping up to be huge.

Only Sheffield United have lost more games than us. This is the worst Arsenal team in decades and they haven’t shown anything this season that suggests they’re too good to go down.

how quickly the FUlham game has been forgotten.... what a performance.

[Marc Overmars]

oh no, he is starting to blame luck.

When the delusion kicks in you know it’s game over.

[Gooner23]

His position has got to be untenable now surely? The players have given up.

[Marc Overmars]

In terms of results it is untenable but I don’t believe the club have the balls to sack him. They’ve doubled down on him and are now simply hoping for some miracle turnaround when it is painfully obvious to everyone watching how far gone this team is. Scoring a goal from open play, not getting spanked, having a few more shots, these are all apparently signs of progress now which shows how low they’re falling and continue to fall.

[Ralpheroo72]

I think it’s time for Pardew

[Niall_Quinn]

We responded well.

Dominated.

Spirit. Fight.

Generating enough chances to score goals.

Difficult playing a team that only defends.

The boys are fighting. They are together. You can see that on the pitch.

Fuck off.

Did he tell us to fuck off? Cheeky sod! Joke's on him. We already fucked off.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Did he tell us to fuck off? Cheeky sod! Joke's on him. We already fucked off.

The last part may have been me.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Well we didn’t get a red card.

Small steps forward at least

[Letters]

:lol:

And we scored a goal. We are BACK!

[Marc Overmars]

We’ve scored 2 goals from open play in 10 games. :haha:

[Bumble]

We’ve scored 2 goals from open play in 10 games. :haha:

we have 5 points from 10 games. Arteta is lucky there is no crowd.

[Letters]

we have 5 points from 10 games. Arteta is lucky there is no crowd.

Wow. That actually is relegation form.
Us :pal:

[Bumble]

Wow. That actually is relegation form.
Us :pal:

yeah that is shocking. i dont expect anything from Chelsea but after that Brighton, West Brom, Palace and Newcastle. teams all around us. If we dont win 3 of them then no point Arteta having long term plans... he wont be here long term.

[Mac76]

we have 5 points from 10 games. Arteta is lucky there is no crowd.

i think that's a big factor in his being able to make such a mess unchecked - a full crowd would be giving him and some of those useless players a ton of sh*t by now

[Globalgunner]

i think that's a big factor in his being able to make such a mess unchecked - a full crowd would be giving him and some of those useless players a ton of sh*t by now

True. Kroenke only took action against Wenger when the crowds started to thin at the Emirates. Possibly he wont take action now u till relegation is a near certainty. The club is managed by morons

[Ollie the Optimist]

i think that's a big factor in his being able to make such a mess unchecked - a full crowd would be giving him and some of those useless players a ton of sh*t by now

Xhaka wouldn’t have made it off the pitch alive after his red card against Burnley if the emirates was full

[selassie]

The Chelsea match doesn’t matter. It is Brighton and West Brom after which is shaping up to be huge.

Only Sheffield United have lost more games than us. This is the worst Arsenal team in decades and they haven’t shown anything this season that suggests they’re too good to go down.

How confident are you of us beating either Brighton or West Brom?

[Marc Overmars]

How confident are you of us beating either Brighton or West Brom?

I’m not.

[Letters]

I'm not confident of us beating anyone right now although I don't think the team are either and this is the problem.
You can get into a mentality where you just go into games thinking you'll lose and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
That's where we are right now.
We just need a goal to go in off someone's arse and win a game and I think things will improve.
We are pretty bad but not relegation bad.

[Mac76]

I'm not confident of us beating anyone right now although I don't think the team are either and this is the problem.
You can get into a mentality where you just go into games thinking you'll lose and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
That's where we are right now.
We just need a goal to go in off someone's arse and win a game and I think things will improve.
We are pretty bad but not relegation bad.

I'm not so sure, say what you like about teams like WBA and Sheffield Utd, they will put up a fight - Wilder will get the sack soon and Allardyce is a specialist at staying up

I'm concerned we don't have the players who can fight a relegation battle, and I'm sure our fancy-pants 'manager' doesn't have a clue -he needs to go now or we really could go down

[Marc Overmars]

I'm not confident of us beating anyone right now although I don't think the team are either and this is the problem.
You can get into a mentality where you just go into games thinking you'll lose and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
That's where we are right now.
We just need a goal to go in off someone's arse and win a game and I think things will improve.
We are pretty bad but not relegation bad.

The trouble is we’re conceding the first goal in practically every game at the moment. It’s a big ask for a team with no confidence to come back every time.

If we beat Brighton and West Brom, which we absolutely must do, then maybe we can start to look upwards. However so much damage has already been done any rescue mission is only going to take us to the 10th-7th region we were bumbling about for all of last year. We lost 10 games last year but we’ve already lost 8 now. It’s a write off.

[selassie]

I’m not.

Same as me, I think the Brighton game is very tricky, they have beaten us a couple of times already since being back in PL. West Brom will be difficult because of Big Sam.

[Chippy]

Same as me, I think the Brighton game is very tricky, they have beaten us a couple of times already since being back in PL. West Brom will be difficult because of Big Sam.

It is shocking how far we have fallen.

This is the sort of conversation you should be reading on the West Ham, Brighton or Fulham's chat room :ilt:

This is what you get if you employ a rookie Manager and buy crap like Willian who are on their last legs and will offer nothing.

I used to enjoy football, now it is just an irritation.

[Mac76]

It is shocking how far we have fallen.

This is the sort of conversation you should be reading on the West Ham, Brighton or Fulham's chat room :ilt:

This is what you get if you employ a rookie Manager and buy crap like Willian who are on their last legs and will offer nothing.

I used to enjoy football, now it is just an irritation.

I just can't believe how badly run this club is

The only thing that keeps me going is the belief that we do actually at least have some good players and if we could get a good manager we could still be a decent team - but i have very little faith they'll get rid of Arteta until it's too late and we're basically down.

[selassie]

It is shocking how far we have fallen.

This is the sort of conversation you should be reading on the West Ham, Brighton or Fulham's chat room :ilt:

This is what you get if you employ a rookie Manager and buy crap like Willian who are on their last legs and will offer nothing.

I used to enjoy football, now it is just an irritation.

Same brother, same.

[Xhaka Can’t]

How confident are you of us beating either Brighton or West Brom?

We need to take 4 points from those fixtures.

We’ve taken 5 points from our last 10 matches.

Confidence has left the building.