Carabao Cup 2023/2024

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham 1-0 Spuds currently. :lol:

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Van de Ven OG for Fulham's goal, whoever the fuck that is.

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Fulham 1-1 Spuds, Richarlison.

Tete was off the pitch changing his boot. :doh:

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Gone to pelanties. :lol:

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Sanchez has his saved! :lol:

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Tete scores and puts Fulham through!!

Spuds. :haha:

[Letters]

Alas, their dream of the treble is dead


:pal:

[Marc Overmars]

Looking like a very short season for Spurs. :lol:

[Letters]

Looking like a very short season for Spurs. :lol:

They did have a 40 game season one year. Would be hilarious if they match that :d

[Marc Overmars]

Will probably help their league performance given that’s all they’re playing for right now but always funny to see a shot at a trophy gone so soon for them.

[dostoy]

They can now concentrate on the league even more. The Carabao cup means nothing. It is not good news they are out of it. They will be fresh every week for their league match.

[Letters]

I'm not sure it makes that much difference. Most first team players don't play in these games anyway.

[WMUG]

Wimbledon 1-0 up at the bridge :d

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea. :haha:

[WMUG]

1-1 now :(

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vinnie Jones. :haha:

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Doncaster 1-0 Everton currently.

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Wait I've just realised Stuart Broad is covering the Forest game for Sky on Soccer Special.

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Harrogate 0-7 Blackburn. Wow.

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2-1 Chelsea lead, Enzo.

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Harrogate 0-8 Blackburn. :wacko:

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Doncaster 1-1 Everton!

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Forest 0-1 Burnley, Amdouni!

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Doncaster 1-2 Everton!

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Third Round Draw:

Ipswich Town vs Wolverhampton Wanderers
Exeter City vs Luton Town
Aston Villa vs Everton
Manchester United vs Crystal Palace
Port Vale vs Sutton United
Bradford City vs Middlesbrough
Bournemouth vs Stoke City
Lincoln City vs West Ham
Brentford vs Arsenal
Chelsea vs Brighton
Salford City vs Burnley
Fulham vs Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers vs Cardiff City
Liverpool vs Leicester City
Newcastle United vs Manchester City
Mansfield Town vs Peterborough United

[Marc Overmars]

Tricky draw.

[Mac76]

Tricky draw.

Agree, the media will be sharpening their pens, it has 'plucky underdogs Brentford beat title challengers Arsenal' written all over it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool: Kelleher; Gomez, Quansah, Van Dijk, Tsimikas; Endo, Szoboszlai, Jones; Elliott, Nunez, Gakpo.
Subs: Adrian, Konate, Diaz, Salah, Clark, Gordon, McConnell, Alexander-Arnold, Bradley.

West Ham: Areola; Coufal, Ogbonna, Mavropanos, Johnson; Alvarez, Soucek; Fornals, Kudus, Benrahma; Bowen.
Subs: Fabianski, Cresswell, Zouma, Ward-Prowse, Paqueta, Ings, Kehrer, Emerson, Mubama.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on 'Ammers :bow:

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Liverpool 1-0 West Ham, Szoboszlai.

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2-0 Jones.

Moyes. :lol:

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3-0 Gakpo.

So many shots from distance.

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3-1 Bowen, lovely goal.

The comeback is on!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nunez hits the post, Salah misses a sitter.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-1 Salah now.

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5-1 Jones with his second.

Moyes. :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

No Nunez or Salah for Liverpool (and obviously no Jota)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea: Petrovic, Chilwell, Colwill, Disasi, Gusto, Caicedo, Fernandez, Palmer, Gallagher, Sterling, Jackson.
Subs: Sanchez, Bettinelli, Chalobah, Gee, Gilchrist, Tauriainen, Madueke, Mudryk, Nkunku.

Liverpool: Kelleher, Robertson, Konate, Van Dijk, Bradley, Mac Allister, Endo, Gravenberch, Elliott, Gakpo, Diaz.
Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Tsimikas, Clark, McConnell, Koumas, Danns, Quansah, Nyoni.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Caicedo does this all the time.

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Disallowed goal for Chelsea, looks tight.

[Mac76]

Quite an absorbing game so far despite the scoreline

I'd be surprised if there weren't goals in the second half, both teams have come very close, in particular the offside was very close

[HCZ_Reborn]

Quite an absorbing game so far despite the scoreline

I'd be surprised if there weren't goals in the second half, both teams have come very close, in particular the offside was very close

Pels it is :haha:

In fairness im only half joking, when these two played each other two years (albeit yes especially with Chelsea a very different team) plenty of chances in the fa cup game and league cup game (although in those matches it was mainly all Liverpool chances)

[HCZ_Reborn]

And as soon as I say that Van Dijk scores :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea. :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Oh VAR might have its say

[HCZ_Reborn]

And it’s been chalked off. 0-0 as you were

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Goal disallowed for Liverpool. That is so confusing.

[Mac76]

Goal disallowed for Liverpool. That is so confusing.

I'm not sure that Colwill was close enough to Van Dyke anyway but i do take their point about Endo interfering with play after being offside

[HCZ_Reborn]

Goal disallowed for Liverpool. That is so confusing.

So apparently Endo was in an offside position when blocking off Chilwell from intercepting Van Dijk

He’s either offside or he’s not. What he’s doing whilst standing in an offside position barely seems relevant

I always found the interfering in play argument bollocks. But basing it on what a player could or would do is absurd

[Mac76]

Gakpo sends one into space

[Mac76]

So apparently Endo was in an offside position when blocking off Chilwell from intercepting Van Dijk

He’s either offside or he’s not. What he’s doing whilst standing in an offside position barely seems relevant

I always found the interfering in play argument bollocks. But basing it on what a player could or would do is absurd

I tend to agree but then you need to revert to the previous rule saying no player should be offside in any circumstances, so it would still be disallowed

[HCZ_Reborn]

I tend to agree but then you need to revert to the previous rule saying no player should be offside in any circumstances, so it would still be disallowed

Exactly, no issue with the goal being disallowed….just can’t be doing with arbitrary rules. I know it’s an old argument but if you’re not interfering in play, why are you even on the pitch?

Keep it simple I say

[HCZ_Reborn]

All it will take now is for a penalty to be awarded, when someone’s hand is deemed to be in an unnatural position because seemingly no one in the VAR studio has ever seen someone jump before

[Mac76]

I can't believe that Chelsea have spent so much money but all they have up front is Nicholas Jackson

[Mac76]

Gallagher has to score there

[Mac76]

Gallagher has to score there

and again

[Mac76]

Gallagher has to score there

to be fair the goalie did well on the first one

[Mac76]

Al Exis Mac Allister off

[Mac76]

Jackson hauled off, Mudryk coming on

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fuck me I thought we had injury issues :lol:

[Mac76]

good that both teams have to play an extra half hour

Chelsea are looking the most likely to score but on balance i'd prefer Liverpool to win, i hate Ponce and if Liverpool win they might relax just a touch, as they've had a success in Klopp's last season

[HCZ_Reborn]

I want Liverpool to win because I hate Chelsea

Epitome of everything that’s wrong with football. Plus Scumbag fans

I don’t really care about Pochettino one way or the other

[HCZ_Reborn]

Subbing off Gakpo (even though he is shit) gives me the impression Klopp isn’t exactly committed to winning the trophy and instead is putting everything on winning the league.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Had to look up Jayden Danns as never heard of him, not really a surprise haven’t heard of half the players in our own under 21 side

https://backend.liverpoolfc.com/sites/default/files/styles/lg/public/2023-07/jayden-danns-250.jpg?itok=vjDXShvj

Why would you have a photo taken (presumably for the club website) that makes you look like you’re mugshot is being taken as part of your processing in HMP Walton

[Mac76]

Diaz has been fantastic, never given up and it's a shame for him his teammates haven't scored off his efforts

[HCZ_Reborn]

Give him credit though, he’s making himself available for chances. Trying to channel his inner Roy Essendoh

[Mac76]

dreadful corner from Chelsea

[Mac76]

To think we nearly signed Mudryk instead of all of Kiwior, Trossard and Jorginho

I don't think we should entirely let Arteta off that yet

[HCZ_Reborn]

Sky Sports' Laura Hunter at Wembley:
"This game has produced a combined xG total of 3.83 and zero goals, and no one sat in this confused press box quite understands how or why..."


Might have something to do with Chelsea being notoriously poor finishers and Liverpool being without all three of their strikers through injury

[HCZ_Reborn]

Van Dijk scores

I hope it gets ruled out…not for any reason. It would just be funny

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Van Dijk now

[HCZ_Reborn]

120: PENALTY APPEAL! It's not over yet.
Chelsea want a spot kick for a Van Dijk handball but too close to his body.
Three added minutes! Van Dijk punches the ball with delight as Chelsea are caught offside.


I’m assuming these are two seperate incidents

[Mac76]

Van Dijk scores

I hope it gets ruled out…not for any reason. It would just be funny

not as funny as Chelsea losing though

[HCZ_Reborn]

Chelsea 0-1 Liverpool
Sky Sports' Jamie Carragher:
"If Liverpool hold on, this game will tell you that football isn't all about money!"

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/27/liverpool-agree-world-record-75m-fee-with-southampton-for-virgil-van-dijk


:shrug:

[Mac76]

Game over

Chelsea :haha:

Ponce :haha:

Mudryk :haha:

Chelsea fans :haha:

Klopp :bow:

[Mac76]

Got to say most of the Liverpool kids were quite good, apart from McConnell who was awful

[Letters]

So apparently Endo was in an offside position when blocking off Chilwell from intercepting Van Dijk

He’s either offside or he’s not. What he’s doing whilst standing in an offside position barely seems relevant

I always found the interfering in play argument bollocks. But basing it on what a player could or would do is absurd

Disagree with this. There are times when a player scores from distance, if another player is marginally offside then unless they’re in any way blocking the ‘keeper’s view then give the goal, I reckon. The offside player in no way affected whether the ball went in the net.

I realise that leaves the rule open to interpretation but it anyway and if there was more common sense in the world it wouldn’t be an issue.

[Letters]

I want Liverpool to win because I hate Chelsea

Epitome of everything that’s wrong with football. Plus Scumbag fans

I don’t really care about Pochettino one way or the other
I think this is something we can all agree with!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:haha:

Fucking hell you've got to be embarrassed if you're Chelsea. The team that started for us wasn't exactly A*, but the one that finished it...

https://i.redd.it/ktas70nctrkc1.jpeg

[HCZ_Reborn]

:haha:

Fucking hell you've got to be embarrassed if you're Chelsea. The team that started for us wasn't exactly A*, but the one that finished it...

https://i.redd.it/ktas70nctrkc1.jpeg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3vg2cTX3rQ/hqdefault.jpg

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

https://i.gifer.com/18Hq.gif

[Mac76]

I think this is something we can all agree with!

Except the last sentence - Ponce is a tosser and a fraud, the former has always been clear and the latter is becoming increasingly obvious

[Letters]

Except the last sentence - Ponce is a tosser and a fraud, the former has always been clear and the latter is becoming increasingly obvious

Never really agreed with you about this.
I mean, he got Spurs to a CL final. Spurs! And he made them credible title contenders for the first time in my life. But the lack of trophies is a pretty big black mark against him and he’s not done a good job at Chelsea. It does seem like he’s inherited a hilarious mess though. Emery didn’t do a good job with us but he’s clearly a pretty decent manager.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I also don’t think it’s possible to do a good job at Chelsea. The club is a hot steaming mess. As for fraud, I’m not really sure how that word applies…he did a good job at Spurs I think that’s undeniable. Not really excelled anywhere else. As for being a tosser? Not really sure what makes him anymore a tosser than most other football coaches.

Other than being relatively more successful with Spurs than most of the other coaches they’ve had, I don’t really get the beef with him. Used to love seeing Mourinho lose because of what an unpleasant narcissist he is, but it then became so commonplace that it lost any meaning.

[Mac76]

Amazing how people on here line up to defend a spuds manager with a face like a punchbag who constantly blames anyone but himself for serial failure (PSG doesn't count and spuds LOST the CL final in case people hadn't noticed)

Pathetic

[The Wengerbabies]

Chelsea :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Embarrassing from Chelsea really to not beat that Liverpool team with pretty much all of their big hitters out.

Klopp is a great coach and I am quite envious of how electric he’s made things at Liverpool. Very happy he’s leaving and let’s just hope this is the only thing they win this season. :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Amazing how people on here line up to defend a spuds manager with a face like a punchbag who constantly blames anyone but himself for serial failure (PSG doesn't count and spuds LOST the CL final in case people hadn't noticed)

Pathetic

I don’t think anyone is defending him, they’re just telling you they don’t share your sense of animus towards him. Which you’ve largely stated is because he’s overrated and blames everyone but himself for defeats (which let’s be fair hardly singles him out as a football coach). People on here don’t have the same animus I do towards Chelsea, they don’t like the club and find it funny when they lose but as far as I’m concerned I’d consider it a just outcome if the club ends up being relegated and liquidated.

I don’t like Spurs and love it that they continually miss out on silverware and take great pleasure when they lose, but I don’t wish such a fate on them. Because apart from anything else their existence as a club sets the standard for Arsenal, finishing above them, beating them in north london derbies and winning things when they don’t is a big chunk of what gives being an Arsenal fan meaning.

I also used to actually quite like Chelsea about 20-25 years ago, it helped that they could hardly ever win against us in the league. But they played decent football and it could be quite helpful when they’d beat Man United. Always evident that John Terry was a massive cunt, but actually liked players like Zola, Hasselbank, Gudjohnssen, Flo and Poyet (before he went to Spurs)

That was tempered against the fact Ken Bates was a nasty piece of work. Last decent person to be involved in the ownership of Chelsea was Matthew Harding.

[WMUG]

People on here don’t have the same animus I do towards Chelsea, they don’t like the club and find it funny when they lose but as far as I’m concerned I’d consider it a just outcome if the club ends up being relegated and liquidated.



AHEM. :sarcy:

[Mac76]

I'd love to see Spuds relegated, it would be hilarious, although i guess the following season they might do well in the Championship and potentially come straight back up as Champions (i.e. actually win something), but still them going down would be lovely to see :lol:

[Letters]

Amazing how people on here line up to defend a spuds manager with a face like a punchbag who constantly blames anyone but himself for serial failure (PSG doesn't count and spuds LOST the CL final in case people hadn't noticed)

Pathetic
Sorry, dude, but you’re posting like a child. I find that a bit pathetic.
Ok, you think he’s a smelly poo poo head. I don’t know if you think that because he was at Spurs (in which case come on, dude, grow up a bit). But either way, he took Spurs to the cusp of CL glory and made them credible title contenders. His failure to get them over the line on either count is a big mark against him, but I’m not defending him, just stating facts.
I don’t particularly like the dude, but to deny he did a good job at Spurs is just bloody minded silliness.

[The Wengerbabies]

Sorry, dude, but you’re posting like a child. I find that a bit pathetic.

Are you new here?

[Mac76]

Are you new here?

:lol:

@hcz His job at Spuds is overrated, he got lucky with a youngish squad which gelled and maybe he helped it along here and there but if he was that good why sack him after just a few seasons?

He reminds me of Mourinho, gets a decent season or two out of a team before it all goes sour and he starts moaning there isn't enough money

[Marc Overmars]

The job he did at Spurs is looking like an outlier at the moment but spending very little and getting them to the levels they reached was undeniably impressive.

I don’t think he’s done himself any favours since leaving Spurs though. Taking the PSG job and now Chelsea, 2 very poisoned chalices. He should have really found himself a club akin to Spurs where he could have worked without the unnecessary pressure of needing to win trophies literally every season, he’s not a chequebook coach but now he’s been judged like one.

[Mac76]

The job he did at Spurs is looking like an outlier at the moment but spending very little and getting them to the levels they reached was undeniably impressive.

I don’t think he’s done himself any favours since leaving Spurs though. Taking the PSG job and now Chelsea, 2 very poisoned chalices. He should have really found himself a club akin to Spurs where he could have worked without the unnecessary pressure of needing to win trophies literally every season, he’s not a chequebook coach but now he’s been judged like one.

There may be some truth in that, maybe he's more of an Emery than a Pep

[HCZ_Reborn]

:lol:

@hcz His job at Spuds is overrated, he got lucky with a youngish squad which gelled and maybe he helped it along here and there but if he was that good why sack him after just a few seasons?

He reminds me of Mourinho, gets a decent season or two out of a team before it all goes sour and he starts moaning there isn't enough money

It’s all relative really isn’t it. Plenty of Spurs managers would have still found a way to fuck things up even with that squad….he probably got the best out of them. Does it make him a top coach? No but it does merit saying that he did a good job there.


The interesting thing about Mourinho is as much as what you’ve said is true, the irony is that he won the top prizes in football at two clubs where he had (and again I use this word) relatively far less money to spend than elsewhere. Porto was an immense achievement to win the champions league…yeah he got lucky that teams like Real Madrid and AC Milan choked, but there’s always an element of fortune with these things. Leicester got lucky that City, Chelsea etc had poor seasons and that as it turned out their two main title rivals were us and spurs.

Saying someone did a decent job at a club is not to say they are a top coach.

Plus things go sour at clubs. It’s very rare for most clubs that a coach chooses the time and manner of their departure like Klopp is.


Pochetinno is definitely more an Emery than a Pep. And I say that as someone who thinks that Guardiola is a bit overrated…I do think someone like Klopp would have achieved more than him over the same time with the same finances he had at Barca, Bayern and City.

That’s not the same as to say he’s underperformed (although arguably in terms of European success, he did at Bayern and it took him six years to make City European champions)

But my opinion is biased by the fact that I don’t like him. He comes across like a condescending prick when he talks about Arsenal.