General Football Nonsense

[Letters]

The corruption is so brazen, I'm surprised they're even bothering to do anything about it.
Football has long since gone to shit, sadly.

[Mac76]

England could host a World Cup tomorrow if asked - we've got the stadiums, the infrastructure... and it's about bloody time we gor it again. just give it to us

[dazthegooner]

The national associations need to boycott this thing.

Pay them enough money and they might. :)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Azerbaijan's time has come. :bow:

[Mac76]

Someone arrested for manslaughter for Sala's death, though they've released him for now.

Thought it might be Willie Mckay the agent, but i read he was based in Monaco, but i think he's retired so maybe he's now in Yorkshire...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561

Here's a story about him https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/22/willy-mckay-agent-emiliano-sala-cardiff

[GP]

Rafa :wave:

[Mac76]

Rafa :wave:

newcastle :rose:

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently he’s received an offer from some Chinese club for 25m a year.

FFS. :lol:

[Letters]

Gone to a replay :popcorn:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48756722

[SMatthews]

Steve Bruce in the frame to take over at Newcastle :haha:

[Mac76]

Steve Bruce in the frame to take over at Newcastle :haha:

Jesus, haven't those fans suffered enough already ? :lol:

[GP]

Fat Sam has turned the job down :lol:

[Mac76]

Fat Sam has turned the job down :lol:

The ultimate humiliation surely...???

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49013849

Barton :pal:

What a Joey.

[Mac76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49013849

Barton :pal:

What a Joey.

what a lunatic

[GP]

Steve Bruce in the frame to take over at Newcastle :haha:

Steve Bruce has indeed been appointed

:lol:

[SMatthews]

That's one relegation place sorted.

For the first time I actually feel sorry for the poor fuckers.

[dazthegooner]

Seen on Skysports the Newcastle fans are not happy stating they've gone from a Champions league manager to a championship one (which is where they will probably end up with him in charge)

[Marc Overmars]

Steve Bruce. :haha:

Poor bastards.

[Mac76]

hmmm, but will they have a 'new manager bounce' for the first game of the season ? :o

[Mac76]

New Huddersfield kit - you can tell they know they look like tossers :haha:

https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/hero/public/images/news/large.jpg?itok=52CUKWTt

https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/marketing-services-news/2019/07/huddersfield-town-unveil-new-strip-bearing-paddy-power-sash

[GP]

Is that even allowed?

[KSE Comedy Club]

#LampardOut is already trending on twitter due to their preseason run of 1-1, 1-0 and 4-0 (both losses)

:lol::lol::lol:

[Mac76]

#LampardOut is already trending on twitter due to their preseason run of 1-1, 1-0 and 4-0 (both losses)

:lol::lol::lol:

What with Chelski and Moan U looking shaky, if we can just have a good start and get more out of people like Ozil and Mhki we should have a decent chance of top four IMO, but those are big 'ifs' i know...

[Marc Overmars]

We always try our best to out-shit our rivals, so I don’t see anything new here for the upcoming season.

[Letters]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11701/11771814/ryan-shawcross-suffers-horror-ankle-injury-in-stoke-friendly

I do hope it’s nothing too trivial :cloud9:

Shawcross :pal:

[Mac76]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11701/11771814/ryan-shawcross-suffers-horror-ankle-injury-in-stoke-friendly

I do hope it’s nothing too trivial :cloud9:

Shawcross :pal:

Total karma :lol:

[Mac76]

Bale not leaving after all, despite all bridges having been burnt

Wtf? :shrug:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49144872

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bale. :lol:

Where does he go now?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

The Golf course.

[Master Splinter]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49145007

Kompany :haha:.

Will he drop himself?

[Mac76]

Liverpool beaten 3-0 by Napoli :lol:

[fakeyank]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11701/11772982/stoke-city-defender-ryan-shawcross-recovering-after-successful-ankle-surgery

:violin:

[GP]

He's not that kind of player.

[dazthegooner]

The European Super cup between Liverpool and Chelsea will be officiated by Stephanie Frappart :faint:

[Mac76]

The European Super cup between Liverpool and Chelsea will be officiated by Stephanie Frappart :faint:

good for her :clap: hope she has a good match to prevent any unreconstructed moron remarks of the '"she should have stayed in the kitchen" variety... :rolleyes:

[Letters]

The European Super cup between Liverpool and Chelsea will be officiated by Stephanie Frappart :faint:

Political Correctness gone mad! <_<

[Mac76]

Political Correctness gone mad! <_<

See above ;)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The European Super cup between Liverpool and Chelsea will be officiated by Stephanie Frappart :faint:

Stephanie Fappart. :bow:

[LDG]

Fapp fapp fapp

[Mac76]

Bury in financial trouble so the EFL's answer is to cancel their games.....which will lose them match-day revenue...

What???

:rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49213628

[Mac76]

Barnsley beat fulham in first game of the season

Parker :haha:

Spuds :haha:

[Mac76]

Is that even allowed?

Apparently not... :lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49293155

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49337051

Fining a club with infinite money :bow:

FIFA :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

£315,000. :lol:

[Özim]

£315,000. :lol:

What a joke.

Is this the same thing they were being threatened with a CL ban over?

[Letters]

£315,000. :lol:

:lol: less than one Ozil per week.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ian Holloway thinks if we had Brexit we wouldn't have the new handball law.

:haha:

Jesus christ.

[SMatthews]

You cant have these foreigners telling us how to run our own game :lol:

That would be the English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish FA’s then you fucking country bumpkin.

[GP]

See, this is why BRexit is fucking stupid and we shouldn't do it.

"People knew what they were voting for" my sweaty arse.

[Letters]

And that, right there, is why democracy doesn't work.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Johnson to renegotiate the handball?

30 days might not be enough.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a joke.

Is this the same thing they were being threatened with a CL ban over?

Yes. :lol:

A sum this low wouldn't be so bad if they did something semi-honourable with it. Bury for instance are days away from not existing, relatively local club to Manchester City, why not donate that money to them?

Bloody EU all in all.

[Letters]

Ronaldo :haha:

https://www.givemesport.com/1498790-supercomputer-settles-the-lionel-messi-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-debate?autoplay=on

[Marc Overmars]

Thanks to Messi’s choking Chelsea and Liverpool went on to win the CL.

Fuck him.

[Letters]

:lol:

Harsh to blame Messi for the last of those, he was unbelievable in the 1st leg. They collectively ballsed up the second leg of course.

[Globalgunner]

Ronaldo :haha:

https://www.givemesport.com/1498790-supercomputer-settles-the-lionel-messi-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-debate?autoplay=on

The supercomputer is only confirming what my big brain already knows.

[Marc Overmars]

Bury booted out of the football league and Bolton are facing the same fate. :rose:

[Letters]

Bury booted out of the football league and Bolton are facing the same fate. :rose:

Was just reading about this

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49451896

Sad really and shows that football is just a business these days.

[Mac76]

Bury booted out of the football league and Bolton are facing the same fate. :rose:

At least we'll see the back of some of those shitty northern teams starting with 'B' :wave:

Hopefully Burnley, Barnsley and Blackpool will follow :lol: :run:

[SMatthews]

Was just reading about this

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49451896

Sad really and shows that football is just a business these days.

It’s always been a business. But theres more money now so it’s become more corporate.

[Marc Overmars]

Inter fans defend monkey chants.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11801850/inter-milan-fans-group-defend-monkey-chants-aimed-at-romelu-lukaku-by-cagliari-supporters

WTF. :haha:

[Letters]

They were the non-racist type apparently so it's fine :lol: :doh:

[Mac76]

Huddersfield fined £50k for fake Paddy Power shirts :haha:

https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/marketing-services-news/2019/09/spoof-shirt-costs-huddersfield-ps50k

[GP]

Javi Gracia has left Watford.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We'll face new manager bounce. :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Quique Sanchez Flores re-appointed. :blink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49622403

[Letters]

Beardsley :haha:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49760230

[Mac76]

any reason why the Eintrecht Frankfurt thread is locked...?

[Letters]

Hmm. Odd. Maybe Marcy wanted it all to himself.
Think I’ve unlocked it.

[Mac76]

Hmm. Odd. Maybe Marcy wanted it all to himself.


taking lessons from the Johnson school of democracy i expect... :run:

[LDG]

https://www.waterstones.com/book/one-step-from-glory/alex-fynn/martin-cloake/9781785315985?awaid=3787&utm_source=redbrain&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=css&awc=3787_1569014118_85fc625cf4ba4d581cefd557b2ae9a cb

Fucking :haha: :haha:

[Letters]

https://www.waterstones.com/book/one-step-from-glory/alex-fynn/martin-cloake/9781785315985?awaid=3787&utm_source=redbrain&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=css&awc=3787_1569014118_85fc625cf4ba4d581cefd557b2ae9a cb

Fucking :haha: :haha:

:haha:

“Purchased this book for a friend. Had difficulty finding it at first but the kind lady in the store pointed me towards the section marked "comedy"”

:haha:

[GP]

Glorious failure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhuIV-Nptw

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kloppo wins Best Coach at the FIFA Awards, which are on Sky currently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pirlo. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The Dutch one wins the Women's award Best Keeper.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zanetti. :bow:

What a man.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I did not expect a clip of Leeds v Villa from last season. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ohhh for the Fair Play Award!

If only Don Revie could see this now. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alisson wins Best GK.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Phil Neville nominating for Best Women's Coach. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mourinho has pulled with Jill Ellis.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ilaria D'Amico is pissed I think.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alisson
De Ligt
Sergio Ramos. :haha: Why?!
Van Dijk
Marcelo. :haha: Again, why?
Modric. Again, why?
De Jong
Mbappe
Messi
Hazard
Ronaldo.

That's the World XI.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi wins the FIFA Men's Player of the Year!

:bow:

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rapinoe wins the Best Women's Player.

Lavelle was robbed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rapinoe with some call to arms.

Puyol is there to up the ugly count. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chris Sutton says Van Dijk is transcending the art of defending and he is the ultimate. :wacko:

[dazthegooner]

[QUOTE=McNamara That Ghost...;4495304]Rapinoe wins the Best Women's Player.

Rapino
Think she/he/it/whaganacallit could have won both categories

[Letters]

Alisson
De Ligt
Sergio Ramos. :haha: Why?!
Van Dijk
Marcelo. :haha: Again, why?
Modric. Again, why?
De Jong
Mbappe
Messi
Hazard
Ronaldo.

That's the World XI.
No Xhaka? :sulk:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-49823006

GHELs :bow:

[Mac76]

Baadiff have to hand over the money for Sala :haha:



(i'm laughing at Baadiff obvs. NOT Sala - let's just get that clear...)

[Letters]

Oh Gazza, you prick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50041711

[Özim]

This punishment shows why VAR works better in Rugby and generally everything runs better, they do things properly. In football if a club does something wrong they get a small fine that really has no impact, or a punishment that is deferred, in rubgy they fine them and take 35 points off them, definitely a good deterrent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50300756

To be fair they Championship teams, or lower league teams get points deducted when they can't afford to run, they punish them by essentially relegate them when they're already struggling, it just seems to be in the PL where the big clubs get away with punishments that have no impact.

[dazthegooner]

Son's red card overtured.

[Mac76]

Son's red card overtured.

of course it has, it's spuds - what do we expect - -if it had been one of our players they'd have been shot at dawn :angry:

[Marc Overmars]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11855017/liverpools-carabao-cup-quarter-final-at-aston-villa-confirmed

Liverpool confirmed to play 2 matches on consecutive days, with different squads. :wacko:

They should really do away with the League Cup. Shite competition that really doesn't serve much purpose.

[Letters]

Son's red card overtured.

I actually didn’t think it was that bad.
:shrug:

[dazthegooner]

I actually didn’t think it was that bad.
:shrug:

Having looked at it myself have to say I agree with you...

[RomfordPele]

I actually didn’t think it was that bad.
:shrug:

Maybe, but I think the great British media (and hence FA) would have interpreted it very differently if an Arsenal player had been responsible.

[Letters]

Steward looks like The Beast from The Chase...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXB7KkuaRBk

[Letters]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-premier-league-ace-neil-20969933

GHEL sex pest :bow:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50592077

Hillsborough police chief cleared :popcorn:

[Mac76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50592077

Hillsborough police chief cleared :popcorn:

perhaps the scousers will now look to themselves for who to blame?

no, thought not.....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

perhaps the scousers will now look to themselves for who to blame?

no, thought not.....

Same article says this:

A spokeswoman for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said the verdict did not affect the findings of the Hillsborough inquests, which ruled the victims had been unlawfully killed.

[Mac76]

PL CEO resigns before starting the job... wtf??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50606335

anyone know what the 'private life' story is?

[Letters]

Russia :pal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/50710598

[Niall_Quinn]

Ancelotti to Everton is a done deal, according to the rags.

[Letters]

What a wanker...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50839639

[GP]

What a wanker...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50839639

Look how fat he is!

Also, why does he drive a van??

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50502851

Kane! :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

There can’t be many strikers who’ve scored more PL goals than Kane this decade tbf.

Not sure how Gerrard makes the cut ahead of David Silva?

[Mac76]

most of that list is typical journalist fad-based rubbish

Alexander-Arnold's ony been good for a season or two, K**t's a one-deimensional striker who's just had good service plus the refs on his side, and there's several others there that are only present as they are current rather than recently-retired players

quite genuinely, on ability alone i'd have Santi in that side, but of course it's not fashionable to put any Arsenal players in...

[Letters]

:blink:

Tell you what, I don't like Ronaldo but his leap for this goal is ludicrous


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunImole9HI

[GP]

PEDs :bow:

[Mac76]

:blink:

Tell you what, I don't like Ronaldo but his leap for this goal is ludicrous


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunImole9HI

amazing - incredible leap and he never takes his eye off the ball even with defenders coming in

[Marc Overmars]

Ridiculous header. I saw that last night and then watched a compilation of his best headers. Some of them couldn’t be more well placed and struck if they were shots with his foot. Incredible athleticism.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool had an injury time pelanty in the Club World Cup Final overturned to a fair tackle. :unsure:

Should've been a freekick surely?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 FT.

Extra time it is.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool 1-0 Flamengo, Firmino.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 FT.

Liverpool are World Champions. :sick:

[AFC Leveller]

They were never gonna lose let’s be honest. Something about them this season where it looks like they will win every game.

[Marc Overmars]

From also rans to the worlds best in 4 years.

Flopp. :bow:

[Mac76]

After saving us from the apocalypse last summer they can win anything they like IMO

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Winning is now absolutely second nature to them now. Majority of the time games seem to be a struggle for them but it's obviously no accident they keep on winning in spite of it.

Second best German manager in Premier League history after Wenger. :ninja:

[dazthegooner]

Spuds to appeal Son red card... <_<

[Niall_Quinn]

Spuds to appeal Son red card... <_<

In the stupid modern game, it was a clear red. He sort of kicked (or scuffed) the opponent, which was nothing much, but them he moved again to shove his boot into him. Soft by any other generation, but in pansyland 2019, a clear red. So I expect to see him get a lengthier ban after this stupid appeal. Or maybe they'll say it wacist to card him, in which case they'll automatically win and get the PL banned from Twatter.

[Mac76]

Moyes wants to sign Fellaini for West Spam :haha:

hammers fans :pal:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ACoN 2021 will be in January next year.

Liverpool. :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51119002

[Mac76]

Moan U want Sanchez to come back :haha:

but he wants to stay in Italy :haha: :haha:

https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/transfer-talk/news/manchester-united-to-welcome-back-alexis-sanchez_387751.html

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, that's it. The WAAAAHMEN have taken over Sunday Supplement as well. That was about the last refuge for men and their footie. What a fucked up world.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Better her than Neil Ashton.

[GP]

Women on TV?

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Better her than Neil Ashton.

Quite the indictment of Ashton.

But fair.

Alright, the bitch can stay.

[Mac76]

apparently Igloo can't train with the rest of the Moan U squad in case he's got coronavirus :haha:

Ole :pal:

[Letters]

If he's got the coronavirus then I doubt he'd be able to train at all

[Niall_Quinn]

apparently Igloo can't train with the rest of the Moan U squad in case he's got coronavirus :haha:

Ole :pal:

He's been frozen out.

[Letters]

Beckham :haha:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51690278

[GP]

Club International de Futbol Miami :lol:

Fuck off

[dazthegooner]

The women are at it again wanting equal pay in football https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11949723/hope-solo-and-maggie-murphy-continuing-fight-for-equal-pay-in-football-both-sides-of-the-pond.

[Marc Overmars]

I get it in America where the women’s game is at least on par if not bigger than the men’s game. You can’t sensibly campaign for equal pay in Europe though given the absolute chasm in popularity.

Wages are what they are because of TV and commercial income. Who’s going to be paying women that money without every women’s club having the same sources of income as men’s?

[Letters]

When the game attracts as much support - as in, millions of people are prepared to spend £60+ to go see games and companies are willing to spend as much on broadcasting and sponsorship rights then they can have equal pay. Till then, how do they think this is going to work? Where is the money going to come from?

[Mac76]

It's all falling apart at Spuds - Dire on the rampage: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spurs/fa-cup/news/dier-confronts-spurs-fan-in-stands_391862.html?

:haha:

[GP]

It's all falling apart at Spuds - Dire on the rampage: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spurs/fa-cup/news/dier-confronts-spurs-fan-in-stands_391862.html?

:haha:

https://i.redd.it/ulnv6ns64uk41.jpg

[Letters]

:haha:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-51750802

lolz

[dostoy]

It's all falling apart at Spuds - Dire on the rampage: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spurs/fa-cup/news/dier-confronts-spurs-fan-in-stands_391862.html?

:haha:

What will happen to Dier now ?

Surely a fine, a ban and a warning about future conduct.

How much will the fine be and how long will the ban be ?

[Mac76]

What will happen to Dier now ?

Surely a fine, a ban and a warning about future conduct.

How much will the fine be and how long will the ban be ?

if he was one of our players it would be £2m and at least nine matches.

knowing spuds it'll be about £10 and one game

[dazthegooner]

Well they could take one of his winners medals off him... :haha:

[RomfordPele]

if he was one of our players it would be £2m and at least nine matches.

knowing spuds it'll be about £10 and one game

Incredible how much support Dier is getting from the Great British media - every one of the back
pages tonight is talking about mitigating factors and how the FA should be lenient.

The agenda is so transparent it’s embarrassing.

[Marc Overmars]

I mean he was stupid to react the way he did but football fans can be cunts and players are still human. Frankly I’m surprised more incidents like this haven’t happened considering some of the stuff I’ve heard. The kind of stuff fans wouldn’t have the balls to say to a player on the street.

[Niall_Quinn]

The women are at it again wanting equal pay in football https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11949723/hope-solo-and-maggie-murphy-continuing-fight-for-equal-pay-in-football-both-sides-of-the-pond.

They should divide up the £3.50 global revenue generated by WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH-mens "soccer".

And if they want to dance around a pole and get their tits out - I'll probably chuck them a tenner.

The potential for big earnings is there.

[Mac76]

Incredible how much support Dier is getting from the Great British media - every one of the back
pages tonight is talking about mitigating factors and how the FA should be lenient.

The agenda is so transparent it’s embarrassing.

what ban did c*ntona get when he did his kung-fu kick - i seem to remember he was out for a long time and that was in the days when ferguc*nt had the FA wrapped around his little finger

[dazthegooner]

what ban did c*ntona get when he did his kung-fu kick - i seem to remember he was out for a long time and that was in the days when ferguc*nt had the FA wrapped around his little finger

Can't remember if was 9 months or 9 matches.

[GP]

They should divide up the £3.50 global revenue generated by WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH-mens "soccer".

And if they want to dance around a pole and get their tits out - I'll probably chuck them a tenner.

The potential for big earnings is there.

You'd think so, but women soccer players are mostly ugly and flat chested.

[RomfordPele]

Can't remember if was 9 months or 9 matches.

It was 9 months I think. They threw the book at him, but then it’s different because he was a Johnny Foreigner (and also Kung Fu’d the guy!)

TBH, I’m not bothered about footballers giving some back to gobby fans - they could duke it out on the halfway line as far as I’m concerned. What really turns my stomach is the double standards. Where’s all the moral concern about “setting a bad example to the kids etc” that we got with Xhaka?

And on a purely technical point, surely Spurs should get a hefty fine for failing to control their players? You can’t get more out of control than launching yourself into row 23!

[Mac76]

It's spuds, so Dire will probably get a special FA medal for 'reaching out to the fans' :rolleyes:

[dazthegooner]

Well Mourinho has said Dire is in the right frame of mind to play as he's heard that due to the Coronavirus virus the spuds next home game will be played behind closed doors :good:

[Niall_Quinn]

You'd think so, but women soccer players are mostly ugly and flat chested.

Just how I like them.

[Niall_Quinn]

Daily Mail had a big sympathy piece for that spud twat today. Apparently something needs to be done about fans speaking at matches. We should charge other teams to come and listen to our home fans for the ultimate crash course in shutting fans up. Take the huge earnings and spend on a big name ninny who gets offended when people call him out for being shite and nowhere near the stupid money he steals each week.

I wonder what else we can do to make these players' lives as cushy as possible?

[dazthegooner]

If someonw is willing to pay me £100000 a week you can more or less say anything you want, :)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We say it on here for free.

On Dier though, NQ is right, a lot of discussion about the behaviour of fans now.

I'm not sure Dier doing his Pat Cash tribute is going to deter anyone from calling him shit though.

[Niall_Quinn]

We say it on here for free.

On Dier though, NQ is right, a lot of discussion about the behaviour of fans now.

I'm not sure Dier doing his Pat Cash tribute is going to deter anyone from calling him shit though.

Fair warning, I'll be publishing a price list for those wishing to insult me and I expect you, as admin and overlord of all your survey, to make sure people pay up. It's business, not personal. I'm also getting an agent who will be able to up the prices to an obscenely unrealistic and offensive level.

[GP]

Prick

[Niall_Quinn]

Prick

Nice. Getting one in while the rates are low!

[Letters]

Forest owner has Coronavirus!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51814887

Nottingham :rose:

[Mac76]

Nottingham :rose:

What, all of it?! :yikes:

[Mac76]

Here's an interesting one, if there are games behind closed doors the government might make broadcasters show them for free...

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/premier-league/premier-league-could-be-free-to-view-in-a-fan-ban-44484201

Sky :pal:

BT :pal:

Amazon :pal:

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's an interesting one, if there are games behind closed doors the government might make broadcasters show them for free...

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/premier-league/premier-league-could-be-free-to-view-in-a-fan-ban-44484201

Sky :pal:

BT :pal:

Amazon :pal:

Does that mean we'll be on Sky Sports 9 or BT Sports 13?

[Niall_Quinn]

Wayne Rooney's a precious little dick, isn't he? Wah, wah, wah, footballers, wah, wah, wah, Guinea Pigs, wah, wah, wah,..

There were far more fans there than pampered footballers (who can now hunker down in the mansions with their Deluxe Champagne Apocalypse Survival Hamper). He's threatened to never play football again if he's infected and passes it on to family members. So what about doctors and nurses? Should they give up providing healthcare if, in the process of doing their jobs, they infect people? Or lorry drivers? Cops? Teachers?

Doubt the virus would want to get anywhere near Rooney anyway.

[Mac76]

Doubt the virus would want to get anywhere near Rooney anyway.

certainly not near his hair, which is actually his bum fluff :sick: :lol:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51928263

Peter Whittingham dies at 35. Not sure I've heard of him, tbh. But still :rose:

[Mac76]

Aaron ramsey played with him apparently

[Mac76]

"Uefa could authorise one-legged knockout matches for some Champions League and Europa League ties after postponing the finals of all this season's major competitions."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52012053

Does that mean all the players have to hop around ...? :getcoat:

[Letters]

Just do video call games of rock paper scissors. Sky Sports would be all over that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Poor old Alex Song is suffering horribly, along with other footballing victims, during this crisis. Things have become so bad he's been asked to take a pay cut!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8164531/Coronavirus-Former-Arsenal-star-Alex-Song-breaks-silence-Sion-sacking.html

[Letters]

They were only offered a reduced pay of 12,000 Euros?
Oh the humanity! I bet they swerved off the road.
Honestly, kill the lot of them.

[Niall_Quinn]

They were only offered a reduced pay of 12,000 Euros?
Oh the humanity! I bet they swerved off the road.
Honestly, kill the lot of them.

Poor bastards can't even swerve off the road because of the lockdown.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52092809

Barca players to take 70% pay cut.

Which will leave Messi on a paltry €130k a week :(

#prayformessi

[Niall_Quinn]

You think Messi is having it tough? Poor old Ronaldo has resorted to buying 8 million quid Bugattis.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Spurs ask non-playing staff to take a 20% pay cut.
Just think about that a minute. Non-playing staff.

So no cut for the players who are currently sitting on their arses for £SILLYMONEY a week?

Honestly. Football really is bollocks.

:doh:

[Globalgunner]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Spurs ask non-playing staff to take a 20% pay cut.
Just think about that a minute. Non-playing staff.

So no cut for the players who are currently sitting on their arses for £SILLYMONEY a week?

Honestly. Football really is bollocks.

:doh:

I hope he includes himself amongst the non playing staff

[Ollie the Optimist]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Spurs ask non-playing staff to take a 20% pay cut.
Just think about that a minute. Non-playing staff.

So no cut for the players who are currently sitting on their arses for £SILLYMONEY a week?

Honestly. Football really is bollocks.

:doh:

And he plans to access taxpayer money to pay those staff as well.

Government should tell them to fuck off. Cut the salaries of the players first before you ask for taxpayer help.

Wont stop spurs spending millions on new players either.

Shocking behaviour. I’d be just as livid if arsenal did this. Football clubs are about to cause a huge PR crisis for themselves with behaviour like this. Read reports today that PFA is advising their members (ie the players) not to agree any pay cuts during this time. Outrageous

[Özim]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Spurs ask non-playing staff to take a 20% pay cut.
Just think about that a minute. Non-playing staff.

So no cut for the players who are currently sitting on their arses for £SILLYMONEY a week?

Honestly. Football really is bollocks.

:doh:

This is so ridiculous it's untrue, the team, in fact all teams should take big pay cuts, they'll still be earning more than enough, yet once again it's the little guys who suffer.

I can't believe we haven't heard about wholesale pay cuts for the players at other clubs to be honest, at least in other countries they have, they'll be earning megabucks for doing nothing at all, why wouldn't you look at the players first and foremost.

Isn't this the 80% the government will end up paying anyway rather than a pay cut, so the club won't need to fork out much.

[Niall_Quinn]

How can you be so oblivious to the suffering of professional footballers? Most of them are human too, you know. Well at least some of them are.

How do you know they aren't all out helping the lowly paid doctors and nurses who are putting it on the line every day? You don't.

Ronaldo ordered a new 8.5 million quid supercar, undoubtedly so he can respond to emergencies as quickly as possible. Messi is down to his last £100K a week.

Grealish was involved in a car crash while out shopping for quarantined pensioners (okay maybe that last bit isn't true, but it COULD be, we don't know).

In some ways these are the real heroes of the hour. People we will be able to look up to once this crisis has passed.

Until then, we're all in this together. Just as I'm sure we'll all be in it together when the economic tidal waves hits next.

I'm praying for them and I long for the day when we can once again see them kissing the badge to acknowledge how much they love us.

If we can get back to that normality it will demonstrate in the clearest terms why we deserve to survive as a species.

[Mac76]

totally disgraceful from Levy but what do you expect of someone who blackmailed Haringey Council to give him £60m towards the Toilet Bowl so spuds wouldn't go to the Olympic Stadium (which i'm willing to bet they were never going to do anyway)

let's face it one week of K**t, Walli or Wanks' wages would remove the need to cut workers' pay at spuds for a month i'm sure.

[Niall_Quinn]

totally disgraceful from Levy but what do you expect of someone who blackmailed Haringey Council to give him £60m towards the Toilet Bowl so spuds wouldn't go to the Olympic Stadium (which i'm willing to bet they were never going to do anyway)

let's face it one week of K**t, Walli or Wanks' wages would remove the need to cut workers' pay at spuds for a month i'm sure.

Well the cunts who play for him are just as bad. No volunteers there. And we haven't heard much from Arsenal either, apart from us chasing free transfers, which is par for the course.

They're not the same as banksters, theoretically. They claim to have an affinity with the fans and appreciate the fans. So they could share in the burden at this time, even if it was a 20% pay cut like everyone who has been laid off. Or an 80% pay cut like me and many others. But, they have Xbox sessions and tweets to be getting on with so I guess they don't have the time.

I won't be going back to football after this. In truth, I hated these people before this shit (but it was a feeling more than a certainty), and I hate them even more now. Including our lot. THE Arsenal. Club and fans in harmony. Yeah, like shit. Years of robbery is all. Profit first. Profit second.

[Letters]

CL and EL suspended "until further notice"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52121463

Come on, PL. You know what to do...

[Mac76]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSHbi6K2c6KApiifCz46XccRBv2PUY KsZT172TX61159O8hv3_f&usqp=CAU

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Coronavirus may have killed VARS. One disease wiping out another. Because officials have to group in close proximity, the shit abomination that is the game wrecking VARS - or football cancer as it is more affectionately known - may be scrapped. I hope so. Good riddance to toxic rubbish.

Honestly though, they are afraid of three officials being in a small room. It gives a hint of how ridiculous our world is going to be on the other side of Wuhan Flu.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe becomes the first Premier League figure to break rank and take a voluntary pay-cut to his £4m per year wages... but stars keep their full salaries for now.

It's good on the one hand, that these people choose to burst the bubble that protects them and join in the crisis with the rest of us plebs, in some superficial way. But it's not quite the same. Even a 50% pay-cut means 2 mill a year. Which is a whole different life regardless. So yes, well done. But no, I don't see it as much of a sacrifice. But, on balance, we're the idiots who shell out these huge salaries so I suppose we can't complain when first class flies off to a world we'll never know, virtue signalling all the way. Because that's all it really is. It's better than just keeping the snout planted, like every other manager and player bar the staff and team at Barcelona. Yet the huge benefits they have far outweigh the pin prick of pain they'll feel from this. Many people can't sleep because they can't make the rent and don't know if their families are destined for the street. I don't see how Eddie Howe's "sacrifice" helps much. But we can all call him a good guy, I suppose. It's better than nothing, but nothing much in the grand scheme of things.

Footballers should be out and about playing charity matches, doing their bit. Not hiding behind mansion walls and trying to hang on to silly money as the economy collapses for everyone else. If they get sick, so what? This virus is harmless to them. 2 or 3 days with a runny nose, big deal. But no. When the shit hit the fan (literally) they hid. Fuck them.

[Letters]

I do hope when this is all over that most fans tell their clubs to go fuck themselves. They have acted appallingly in this.

[Mac76]

I think there's massive implications for season ticket prices etc, how can Arsenal go to fans who are struggling and demand they all pay a grand so that so that the club can pay ozil a million every three months?

Am really glad that c**t Levy's made himself the public bad guy, but every club is in a real quandary here, PL players need to act fast and agree to a voluntary 50% pay cut across the board, won't happen of course but it needs to be something on that scale so they can substantially drop ticket prices - otherwise renewals will go through the floor.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I do hope when this is all over that most fans tell their clubs to go fuck themselves. They have acted appallingly in this.

Is this the case? Only a few so far have been appalling, spurs Newcastle & Norwich in asking for government support yet not asking players to take a pay cut.

Arsenal seem to have donated a lot to charity and said they will pay match day staff during this crisis which is impressive. I think Bournemouth & Brighton have done the same.

Chelsea are giving some of their stadium/hotel to NHS staff for free and I think City are doing the same?

I have no issue with players not being asked to take a pay cut as long as non playing staff are not being asked to do the same. As soon as they cut the pay of non playing staff and not the players, thats when the issues begin.

[Mac76]

Is this the case? Only a few so far have been appalling, spurs Newcastle & Norwich in asking for government support yet not asking players to take a pay cut.

Arsenal seem to have donated a lot to charity and said they will pay match day staff during this crisis which is impressive. I think Bournemouth & Brighton have done the same.

Chelsea are giving some of their stadium/hotel to NHS staff for free and I think City are doing the same?

I have no issue with players not being asked to take a pay cut as long as non playing staff are not being asked to do the same. As soon as they cut the pay of non playing staff and not the players, thats when the issues begin.

The level of players' pay relates directly to how much clubs need to raise to be able to stay afloat - and that means ticket prices and match-day receipts - you're forgetting (or being a self-proclaimed 'toff' perhaps blissfully unaware) of the hit people are taking on their incomes - if football doesn't wise up to that they will find no-one wants to pay high prices to watch Mustafi fuck up again while sipping a £2.50 cup of hot chocolate and munching a £5 slice of pizza...

[Letters]

Hmm. I guess that's fair, Ollie. Some clubs have acted well enough.
I have some issue with players still raking in the money when they are not currently doing their jobs. Not their fault of course but that could be said for loads of people who have lost their jobs because of all this. It's the sheer amount of money they're raking in which makes it all a bit hard to swallow. None of them are living hand to mouth or worrying about paying bills.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal and every club has spent decades ripping off the fans mercilessly. Football has been corrupted from a simple, culturally rooted game, with a simple fixture list, and a price list within reach of the working man who helped found the game and build the stability of the clubs. Now it's an internationally money spinning circus of pigs dashing around trying to gorge on as much as possible as the working man gets booted and middle class day trippers chuck cash to keep the intensity high. A disgusting spectacle far removed from the original intent.

But apart from that...

Yeah, Arsenal and some other clubs have been better than others in stabling their pigs and attendants to ride this out in the opulence they have become accustomed to. Well done them, I hope we can find a suitable way to show our gratitude.

Mac is right though, they're not going to love us as much if we can't keep throwing that money at them.

[GP]

The level of players' pay relates directly to how much clubs need to raise to be able to stay afloat - and that means ticket prices and match-day receipts - you're forgetting (or being a self-proclaimed 'toff' perhaps blissfully unaware) of the hit people are taking on their incomes - if football doesn't wise up to that they will find no-one wants to pay high prices to watch Mustafi fuck up again while sipping a £2.50 cup of hot chocolate and munching a £5 slice of pizza...

They could just ask their Papa for small loan of a million pounds, or perhaps sell some of their land.

[Ollie the Optimist]

The level of players' pay relates directly to how much clubs need to raise to be able to stay afloat - and that means ticket prices and match-day receipts - you're forgetting (or being a self-proclaimed 'toff' perhaps blissfully unaware) of the hit people are taking on their incomes - if football doesn't wise up to that they will find no-one wants to pay high prices to watch Mustafi fuck up again while sipping a £2.50 cup of hot chocolate and munching a £5 slice of pizza...

No i’m fully aware of those costs and likely impact of people losing jobs/income will have on season ticket renewals etc. But that is a separate issue to the one now.

If the clubs revenues fall next season because a majority cant afford season tickets or even one off tickets and therefore games are played at near empty stadiums, the first people to be go from teh club will be those players on high incomes. Sacking a tea boy on a £15k a year salary will make no difference to them.

At the moment, that is not happening at some clubs. They are instead asking the governemnt to pay the salaries of the non players and then paying an extortionate amount to the players.

Football is in for a rude awakening next year if they dont sort the ticket prices out or even the sky subscriptions etc. To watch all the games on BT/Amazon/Sky requires an outlay of over a £100 a month. People wont be able to pay that. If those costs go down, the next tv deal reduces etc.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Hmm. I guess that's fair, Ollie. Some clubs have acted well enough.
I have some issue with players still raking in the money when they are not currently doing their jobs. Not their fault of course but that could be said for loads of people who have lost their jobs because of all this. It's the sheer amount of money they're raking in which makes it all a bit hard to swallow. None of them are living hand to mouth or worrying about paying bills.


Oh i agree it doenst look at all that there are some players raking in fortunes while many suffer but if the club is not laying off staff or asking for governemnt help to pay other staff then its ok.

The issue of course is how high players salaries are but that is unaffected by this cornoavirus. They were obscene beforehand and they will be after

[Mac76]

No i’m fully aware of those costs and likely impact of people losing jobs/income will have on season ticket renewals etc. But that is a separate issue to the one now.

If the clubs revenues fall next season because a majority cant afford season tickets or even one off tickets and therefore games are played at near empty stadiums, the first people to be go from teh club will be those players on high incomes. Sacking a tea boy on a £15k a year salary will make no difference to them.

At the moment, that is not happening at some clubs. They are instead asking the governemnt to pay the salaries of the non players and then paying an extortionate amount to the players.

Football is in for a rude awakening next year if they dont sort the ticket prices out or even the sky subscriptions etc. To watch all the games on BT/Amazon/Sky requires an outlay of over a £100 a month. People wont be able to pay that. If those costs go down, the next tv deal reduces etc.

ok, glad you know how the other half lives ;)

yes, i've always thought the TV companies could only get away with that for so long, and i think change will come sooner due to this situation.

[Ollie the Optimist]

ok, glad you know how the other half lives ;)

yes, i've always thought the TV companies could only get away with that for so long, and i think change will come sooner due to this situation.

Yeah the tv companies are going to have a problem. BT as soon as the league was suspended refused to suspend subscriptions for those paying for BT SPort (although they may have reversed that now) whereas Sky have allowed The option of suspending it (though being cynical they saw the backlash against BT and went for the easy good PR option).

But everyone the PRemier League pay more for the rights with more markets, they claim it is giving us more choice. While they are correct in one sense that we are getting more choice, at the end of the day its just more cost. You used to be able to watch the games on sky for £50, then BT came along and charged an extra £30 and now amazon charge an extra £79 (although thats per year). So the fans still watch the same amount of games yet cost has gone up and more long term subscriptions are required.

But the worst thing is that we cant even watch all the games. Only what the tv companies tell us we can. It is unacceptable that fans in other countries can watch every game live (granted they may have to pay for a sky style subscription) yet in the UK we can only watch the games sky say we can.

I imagine clubs wil move to a model where they sell the rights to their own games. Perhaps £5 for an HD Stream or a season ticket of £100 but get all games home & away etc.

[Özim]

Premier league to ask players to take a 30% pay cut. 30% is pretty low, Barca players took a 70% pay cut, considering they're not playing or training and and 70% is still a huge amount it's a pretty poor show really even if they agree.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148955

[Letters]

Just furlough the lot of them :shrug:
It's not their fault that they're not able to perform their jobs right now but that's so of a load of workers in this country in the same boat.
I'm sure 80% of their salary (or £2,500 a month if that's less :ninja:) should see them through.

[Niall_Quinn]

Whatever else, make sure they don't get a penny from taxpayers. If they haven't got millions salted away for a rainy day then that's their stupidity and not our problem.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I see everyone is having a go at Matt Hancock for saying premier league footballers should take a pay cut to help out.

1. He was asked a question and he answered it rather than starting his press conference blaming players. A small but key difference

2. This wouldn’t have been a story if Spurs & Newcastle hadn’t decided to furlough non playing staff to be paid by tax payer and keep paying their players in full.

That’s where the issue came from.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just furlough the lot of them :shrug:
It's not their fault that they're not able to perform their jobs right now but that's so of a load of workers in this country in the same boat.
I'm sure 80% of their salary (or £2,500 a month if that's less :ninja:) should see them through.

Most of them couldn't perform their jobs before the pandemic. Can't cross a ball, can't shoot straight, can't tackle, can't stay on their feet for 5 minutes before hitting the deck screaming. They were an embarrassment before and they remain an embarrassment now.

[Mac76]

I imagine clubs wil move to a model where they sell the rights to their own games. Perhaps £5 for an HD Stream or a season ticket of £100 but get all games home & away etc.

In some ways it seems logical though you need to remember that one of the reasons TV games are limited is that the football authorities are worried about fewer fans going to games.

It's the reason no game is shown at 3pm on a Saturday, if it was lower league attendances in particular would really suffer.

And what would even the PL clubs do if people just watched at home instead of turning up and buying programmes, drinks, food etc, the loss of income would be huge

Having just an away-game TV ST would partly solve that, but doesn't deal with the first issue

The alternative is they let fans in for nothing or a much smaller amount as i think they do in Italy and/or Germany (?)

Then they still get the matchday food/drink money

[Letters]

Another reason Liverpool shouldn’t be given the title

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52165826

:sulk:

Why is it always the “non playing staff” while the playing staff who are also not able to do their jobs and who cost the clubs most of the money who are continuing to get the trucks of money each week to do nothing.

It’s pathetic how scared the clubs are of their players.

[GP]

Why aren't the players on furlough?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Yeah not a fan of that at all.

Football gets that little bit shitter every day.

[Marc Overmars]

Not sure why any PL football club feels it is necessary to dip into the government emergency fund and not even use it for playing staff no less. What a disgrace, no doubt football exists in a moral vacuum.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Someone just made a valid point on twitter.

if these clubs cant afford to pay the cleaners their full salaries at the moment then they should be given a transfer ban for one window as clearly their finances mean they need to save not spend.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bit odd when it has gone public with Jordan Henderson speaking to the club captains about doing something with their wages.

It must be a real pisstake for small business owners seeing clubs churn over ridiculous turnover use a government scheme

[Niall_Quinn]

Not sure why any PL football club feels it is necessary to dip into the government emergency fund and not even use it for playing staff no less. What a disgrace, no doubt football exists in a moral vacuum.

Absolute piss takers. Rob the fans during the good times, rob the taxpayers during the bad. Do they REALLY not have millions stashed away?

[Letters]

Do they REALLY not have millions stashed away?

Course they do.
But that’s for the players, silly!

[Niall_Quinn]

Bit odd when it has gone public with Jordan Henderson speaking to the club captains about doing something with their wages.

Last I heard they had a plan to support the economy by buying bigger cars and thousands more champagne apocalypse bailout hampers. Whether it's enough to keep it all propped up, don't know. But they are making the effort at least.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Champagne apocalypse bailout hampers.

Where can I get one of those?

Also, the press are firmly turning against the owners now. Oh now they're morally bankrupt. :lol:

They didn't mind before.

I think it's a bit one sighted to suggest the players are blameless also, they've spent years dictating and demanding higher and higher wages otherwise they'll throw their toys out of the pram.

Now they're all fluffy and the innocent parties in this?

However it can't be long before Silent Stan realises this is what clubs are doing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Where can I get one of those?

Also, the press are firmly turning against the owners now. Oh now they're morally bankrupt. :lol:

They didn't mind before.

I think it's a bit one sighted to suggest the players are blameless also, they've spent years dictating and demanding higher and higher wages otherwise they'll throw their toys out of the pram.

Now they're all fluffy and the innocent parties in this?

However it can't be long before Silent Stan realises this is what clubs are doing.

Was either Fortnum and Masons or Fort Knox. Can't recall exactly.

[Letters]

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-player-wage-cut-matt-hancock

[Letters]

Oh.
You.
Utter
UTTER
ARSEHOLES!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52168692

[Mac76]

Gordon Taylor's ability to make the wrong call and discredit the game knows no bounds

He's clearly failed to get some kind of deal done behind closed doors which could have saved face all round, instead taking a stubborn public attitude which has brought all the criticism down on his members, he should have been forced out about ten years ago but Wenger-like has created an empire around himself that no-one's managed to bring down

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Oh it's for our benefit the wages are so high.

Silly us.

[Mac76]

Oh it's for our benefit the wages are so high.

Silly us.

It feels like a valid argument, but not when clubs like spuds are taking money away from the nhs by putting their staff on furlough to be paid for by err, the public

And the players have already lost the public through Taylor's stubbornness and inaction

[Niall_Quinn]

Ultimately it's the fans fault. Or some of the fans, now that many original fans who were there in the days when players were seen as mere mortals have been eased out for a more affluent class of folk. No standing, no swearing, no talking, just hand over your wallet. If you keep feeding a voracious pig with an eating disorder it will eat itself to death. The fans can take care of all of this when the crisis is over. But they won't. They'll go right back to chucking money in the pit, even though lives have been transformed for hundreds of thousands (or even millions) who pay the long terms costs of this crisis and could do with the largesse more urgently.

You can't really blame the diseased pig for stuffing itself. It's a shocking and undignified sight, but everybody knows what football really is and millions are prepared to accept it.

[Letters]

NQ is right, tbh for once.
It is the fans’ fault.
Even when things have been really shitty over the last few seasons, not just results but zero effort, zero entertainment from these overpaid wankers who we all know will odd off the first time someone waves an even bigger truck of money at them.
Even then my FB feed was full of people falling over themselves to go to games and shovel more money in their direction.
If you’re still filling the stadium, or close enough, there’s no need to change a thing.

[Mac76]

NQ is right, tbh for once.
It is the fans’ fault.
Even when things have been really shitty over the last few seasons, not just results but zero effort, zero entertainment from these overpaid wankers who we all know will odd off the first time someone waves an even bigger truck of money at them.
Even then my FB feed was full of people falling over themselves to go to games and shovel more money in their direction.
If you’re still filling the stadium, or close enough, there’s no need to change a thing.

Don't agree, most of you seem to follow the club from a distance, so you forget that actually going to football is a big part of some people's social lives and in some cases a part of someone's life for decades, so the club has you by the short and curlies, it's down to them to act responsibly with people's commitment.

Also don't forget that fans not turning up was what did for wenger, so the fans do act, at the moment they have (some) faith with arteta so why not give him some backing, yes players wages are insane but hopefully we might see a correction in that as a result of the virus, as people simply won't be able to afford to go unless football reigns itself in

[Niall_Quinn]

It feels like a valid argument, but not when clubs like spuds are taking money away from the nhs by putting their staff on furlough to be paid for by err, the public

And the players have already lost the public through Taylor's stubbornness and inaction

Taylor is doing his job. It's not a respectable job and it's far from being an essential one, as we can now clearly see. But that's the job this horrible little man is overpaid to do. And, give him credit, he's over delivering as usual.

What's happening is football, and sport in general, is being revealed in terms of its real place in society, as opposed to the marketed positioning. There are no heroes in sport, with a very few notable exceptions such as Senna, for example. But we all have a degree of free choice and most of us will go back to misplacing sport in the priority of things. And Taylor (or some other suitable facsimile of a human being) will carry on representing the fake heroes to the best of his/her/its ability.

I won't though. I was having to force myself to care about football and F1 and now I think I'll save myself the effort and redirect it somewhere more useful.

[Letters]

Oh now listen to this cunt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52172196

Wah wah, poor players wah. Piss off.

[Letters]

Don't agree, most of you seem to follow the club from a distance, so you forget that actually going to football is a big part of some people's social lives and in some cases a part of someone's life for decades, so the club has you by the short and curlies, it's down to them to act responsibly with people's commitment.

Also don't forget that fans not turning up was what did for wenger, so the fans do act, at the moment they have (some) faith with arteta so why not give him some backing, yes players wages are insane but hopefully we might see a correction in that as a result of the virus, as people simply won't be able to afford to go unless football reigns itself in
I had a season ticket for over 20 years. It did used to be a big part of my life. Now it isn’t.
Few reasons for that, dad and me used to go to games, it was our thing. As his dementia started to bite it got to the point where he wasn’t able to go so that was a factor. But also getting married, just generally getting older and the expense.
I can understand people for who it’s a big part of their lives but the clubs have certainly played on the fact that they know the fans can’t just go to the shop down the road, so to speak. The only option for fans is to withdraw their custom and while some did do that for a bit at the end of Wenger’s time, too many fans have kept on funding the clubs as the whole sport has slowly lost its soul and become a business rather than a sport.
It’s a shame, it’s not the sport I grew up with.

[Mac76]

It's not the game it was, it's true, though at least some of the on-pitch (and definitely off-pitch) violence has receded and things like more subs and other rule changes have improved things

A pity the refs don't seem to get any better though...

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh now listen to this cunt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52172196

Wah wah, poor players wah. Piss off.


"Why are footballers suddenly the scapegoats?"

So they don't want any attention now? There's a first.

Live by the media hype machine, die by the media hype machine.

[Letters]

A pity the refs don't seem to get any better though...

I had an argument with a mate years ago when there was talk about refs becoming professional.
I always found it amazing that a game at the very top level had amateur officials.
My mate opined that the referees would get no better when they became professional.
I said of course they would.

He was right but I still don’t understand why.
Surely if it’s your entire sodding job you should be better than some amateur.

:shrug:

[Letters]

*sigh*

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11968935/coronavirus-manchester-citys-kyle-walker-faces-disciplinary-action-after-lockdown-breach

Can footballers really not go 5 minutes without being pricks?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I just read that.

Sky omit that this was with sex workers apparently. :haha:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52175132

[Letters]

:doh:

They probably weren’t practicing social distancing then.

Who knew that giving young stupid men more money than they know what to do with would cause any problems?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kyle Walker's apology:

Don't care, had sex

[Niall_Quinn]

I had an argument with a mate years ago when there was talk about refs becoming professional.
I always found it amazing that a game at the very top level had amateur officials.
My mate opined that the referees would get no better when they became professional.
I said of course they would.

He was right but I still don’t understand why.
Surely if it’s your entire sodding job you should be better than some amateur.

:shrug:

The greedy vermin running the game have deliberately made it more difficult for them, with stupid, constantly changing, ambiguous rules and now deliberately mismanaged technology. All to inject a bit of controversy. And there are around 2 million more cameras pointing at the game, and even more idiots in studios doing "he touched him - it's a pen", one week and, "that's not enough to award a pen", bullshit the next. It's set up so they fail. Makes the game more unpredictable and keeps every fan thinking the world is against them, hence more determined to pony up for the next game.

If we had big enough rat traps and enough cheese we could solve the problem overnight.

[Niall_Quinn]

I just read that.

Sky omit that this was with sex workers apparently. :haha:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52175132

That's absolutely disgusting!

Imagine going anywhere near that dick.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:sick:

In fairness though, at least he donated a portion of his wages to workers in need.

[Niall_Quinn]

:sick:

In fairness though, at least he donated a portion of his wages to workers in need.

Unless he somehow wrangled it so the government pays 80%

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol:

Damn I never thought of that.

[Mac76]

I had an argument with a mate years ago when there was talk about refs becoming professional.
I always found it amazing that a game at the very top level had amateur officials.
My mate opined that the referees would get no better when they became professional.
I said of course they would.

He was right but I still don’t understand why.
Surely if it’s your entire sodding job you should be better than some amateur.

:shrug:

Yeah, it's the arrogance and lack of humility they have, too much grandstanding and too many chips on their shoulder against Arsenal...

[Ollie the Optimist]

It feels like a valid argument, but not when clubs like spuds are taking money away from the nhs by putting their staff on furlough to be paid for by err, the public

And the players have already lost the public through Taylor's stubbornness and inaction

It is a valid argument that players do pay a lot of tax and that goes to the NHS etc. However, two points detract from that argument currently. The first is that as you mention, currently their tax is going back into the clubs to pay their non playing staff rather than NHS.

second is this. https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-21/record-number-of-footballers-under-investigation-by-hmrc-over-tax-avoidance/

now most players will just go and do what their accountants tell them to do but that is quite a high number being investigated

[Mac76]

Pep's mum has died - tweet from Man City: "Manchester City - The Manchester City family are devastated to report the death today of Pep’s mother Dolors Sala Carrió in Manresa, Barcelona after contracting Corona Virus. She was 82-years-old ."

:(

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool reverse the Furlough application.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52191140

What a bottle job. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pep's mum has died - tweet from Man City: "Manchester City - The Manchester City family are devastated to report the death today of Pep’s mother Dolors Sala Carrió in Manresa, Barcelona after contracting Corona Virus. She was 82-years-old ."

:(

RIP to her.

[Letters]

Liverpool reverse the Furlough application.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52191140

What a bottle job. :lol:

I actually wouldn’t have a huge problem with clubs doing this IF it applied to playing staff.
It’s pathetic how shit scared the clubs are of the players now that they continue to send them a truck of money each week for doing nothing.

[Niall_Quinn]

I actually wouldn’t have a huge problem with clubs doing this IF it applied to playing staff.
It’s pathetic how shit scared the clubs are of the players now that they continue to send them a truck of money each week for doing nothing.

Why don't the players pay the wages of the non-playing staff? That's what quite a few players are doing in the States. I'm guessing Ozil could probably handle the whole payroll himself and have plenty left over. Let them put their hand in their pockets instead of kissing badges, if they really love the club so much.

And the question is asked, why should they? Because a lot of people are chipping in right now, whether they want to or not. The fans have thrown wheelbarrows of cash at these players, you might think the players could spare a bit of change from down the back of the sofa? To do their bit.