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Mac76
17-07-2024, 01:35 PM
So who do people want to be the next manager?
For me it would be Klopp hands down, although I don't know if he wil go for it
I think Eddie Howe will stay at Newcastle, Potter might well be up for it though not sure he could handle it
As for Pep, he'd be good but I don't think there's much chance of it
HCZ_Reborn
17-07-2024, 02:17 PM
I think the barrier to Eddie Howe is less Howe himself and more the compensation that would have to be paid to Newcastle
Klopp i think is an impossibility because I don’t think he’d ever be able to go back to Germany, it’s not Berti Vogts and Scotland it’s a completely different thing entirely
Guardiola? Well if he’s not the best paid manager in the game he’s in the top two or three. So the price would be offputting even if he was planning to leave club football for England
One suspects that the reason the FA favoured Southgate was because they are simpatico. Both risk adverse, safety first….which means Lee Carsley on the basis that he won the u21 European championship (I think?) and he’s familiar with the set up. I understand he’s more attack minded than Southgate but ultimately, the big draw back is not having the experience of handling big name players.
Graham Potter? More used to working in paint by number set ups where he is the head coach and all the setup is there for him like with Brighton.
Letters
17-07-2024, 02:56 PM
I went Howe. I'm not wed to the idea of an English manager, but I would prefer it.
And Klopp has said he's taking a break from football so isn't an option right now.
Marc Overmars
17-07-2024, 03:48 PM
Would love Klopp but it just isn’t going to happen.
Eddie Howe is the best English coach so you’d think he’s a front runner. The risk he needs to think about though is if it were to go pear shaped. Once upon a time Steve McLaren was highly regarded but his reputation was destroyed beyond all repair after England.
I think we will certainly be expected to win the Euros on home soil in 4 years and a strong World Cup showing will also be considered a bare minimum for 2026. So for whoever comes in I don’t think there’s any room for error or processes here, they need to win or they’ll
be seen as a failure, so that’s huge pressure.
HCZ_Reborn
17-07-2024, 04:03 PM
https://x.com/thenewsagents/status/1813544178934063135?s=46&t=n1tnxEg6k_DvSqUkaQFrjw
I noticed that the most full throated defence of Southgate came from the smug middle class liberal set. The real harm of Brexit is the harm it’s done to these peoples psyches. They have become so disillusioned that the rose tinted view they had of Britain within the confines of their croissant and cappuccino filled bubble has been disabused, that they have a narcotic need to cling on to these utterly vapid notions of inclusivity as if they have any meaning.
The England football team isn’t exactly multi racial anyway, you’re either black or white and ultimately it doesn’t matter because the first order importance is that you’re English. This is the same vapid “Be Kind” wooliness that people use when perverts wear skirts and go into the ladies with their John Thomas hanging out underneath the skirt like it’s a light cord.
Plus none of it’s actually relevant to the job.
Plus it’s acting as if somehow the last England manager had the black players in chains as galley slaves in a giant rowing vessel ferrying them between tournaments whilst an omnious drum is being banged.
Empty and platitudinous
dostoy
17-07-2024, 04:05 PM
Where is the choice for Woy ? :)
Allardyce has no chance.
HCZ_Reborn
17-07-2024, 04:06 PM
Where is the choice for Woy ? :)
Allardyce has no chance.
I’d like to see Big Sam just for the Not Big Sam Twitter profile to get a new lease of life
Mac76
17-07-2024, 10:19 PM
https://x.com/thenewsagents/status/1813544178934063135?s=46&t=n1tnxEg6k_DvSqUkaQFrjw
I noticed that the most full throated defence of Southgate came from the smug middle class liberal set. The real harm of Brexit is the harm it’s done to these peoples psyches. They have become so disillusioned that the rose tinted view they had of Britain within the confines of their croissant and cappuccino filled bubble has been disabused, that they have a narcotic need to cling on to these utterly vapid notions of inclusivity as if they have any meaning.
The England football team isn’t exactly multi racial anyway, you’re either black or white and ultimately it doesn’t matter because the first order importance is that you’re English. This is the same vapid “Be Kind” wooliness that people use when perverts wear skirts and go into the ladies with their John Thomas hanging out underneath the skirt like it’s a light cord.
Plus none of it’s actually relevant to the job.
Plus it’s acting as if somehow the last England manager had the black players in chains as galley slaves in a giant rowing vessel ferrying them between tournaments whilst an omnious drum is being banged.
Empty and platitudinous
I think NQ has hacked HCZ's account
dazthegooner
18-07-2024, 07:43 AM
According to Skysports the FA are considering Ange Postecoglou on the shortlist for the England job.
Mac76
18-07-2024, 09:01 AM
According to Skysports the FA are considering Ange Postecoglou on the shortlist for the England job.
:ilt: Four more years of hurt...
Have they not got the message about Spuds and serial failure yet?
Seriously the fat aussie is just as bad as Southgate in that he only has one way of playing and is far too naive to win a major international tournament
Letters
18-07-2024, 09:27 AM
That would be a bloody awful appointment :lol:
HCZ_Reborn
18-07-2024, 09:30 AM
I wouldn’t give it any credence, the media will go into silly season about this. Yesterday they claimed that Sarina Wiegman was being considered which obviously is as daft as when they tried to claim that Sir Clive Woodward was being linked with vacant Southampton job about twenty years ago
HCZ_Reborn
18-07-2024, 09:37 AM
I think NQ has hacked HCZ's account
Says the person who is still at this point doubling down on a conspiracy theory simply because they are too stubborn to admit they know how implausible it is.
Plus I’m not making claims like, that having female pundits will lead to legalised pedophilia. I’m just stating the fact that all this stuff about tolerance, diversity and inclusion is all completely nebulous, actually quite condescending and is so blinded by smug sanctimony that it ignores the people who will exploit it.
The important progress that’s made is evident when people don’t give a fuck, Sunak first non white prime minister in the main it passed unnoticed, two blokes getting married? In the main no one gives a shit.
Mac76
18-07-2024, 10:12 AM
I wouldn’t give it any credence, the media will go into silly season about this. Yesterday they claimed that Sarina Wiegman was being considered which obviously is as daft as when they tried to claim that Sir Clive Woodward was being linked with vacant Southampton job about twenty years ago
Well Woodward was Performance Director at Southampton for a time so it wasn't that far off beam...
But yes I don't think anyone thinks Wiegman would get it but obvs the FA would be keen to show they are not just considering men, as they've put men in charge of the women's team often enough in the past, including Phil 'just off home to beat the wife' Neville
after all at least Wiegman has, like, won things with an England football team...
Mac76
18-07-2024, 10:14 AM
That would be a bloody awful appointment :lol:
Which is what worries me - this is the FA we're talking about - they will probably like the fact he has the media fawning all over him, that's clearly much more important than if he could actually win something...
HCZ_Reborn
18-07-2024, 11:25 AM
Well Woodward was Performance Director at Southampton for a time so it wasn't that far off beam...
But yes I don't think anyone thinks Wiegman would get it but obvs the FA would be keen to show they are not just considering men, as they've put men in charge of the women's team often enough in the past, including Phil 'just off home to beat the wife' Neville
after all at least Wiegman has, like, won things with an England football team...
It is though directly proportionate in the sense that neither are qualified to take the big seat and are being mooted simply because of what they’ve achieved in a different sport, and what might as well be a different sport because of the physical differences between men and women.
I don’t think it’s a serious consideration and it’s more just a case of look at how progressive we are. And I don’t say this because Wiegman is a woman I say it because she has no experience in the men’s game
dostoy
18-07-2024, 02:20 PM
I'd love to see Ange get the England job but it won't happen and it might mean Poch is back at Spuds which I certainly do not want to happen.
Letters
18-07-2024, 02:59 PM
I'd love to see Ange get the England job.
Seriously?
I mean, he gets his team playing good football so it would be fun, but he's not shown anything which would make me think he can hack it at that level.
dostoy
18-07-2024, 04:08 PM
Seriously?
I mean, he gets his team playing good football so it would be fun, but he's not shown anything which would make me think he can hack it at that level.
I couldn't care less about England, I just want to see Spuds lose their manager.
HCZ_Reborn
18-07-2024, 04:13 PM
I couldn't care less about England, I just want to see Spuds lose their manager.
I’m not sure he will be there in a year’s time. I do genuinely quite like him as a person so pity he’s the Spurs boss but I’m not sure he’s going to get them into the top four
Letters
18-07-2024, 04:15 PM
I couldn't care less about England, I just want to see Spuds lose their manager.
:lol:
That's a level of pettiness I can get behind.
Niall_Quinn
18-07-2024, 08:19 PM
Pep? That's truly funny.
Niall_Quinn
18-07-2024, 08:20 PM
I'm thinking maybe Jacque Villeneuve. Somebody like that. Somebody who can laugh of the joke football has become and get back to business. Literally, no experience required because all the modern day experience is counter-productive.
dazthegooner
19-07-2024, 02:47 PM
The FA have put out an Ad for the England managers position one the criteria is to have an established premier league record.
Letters
19-07-2024, 03:03 PM
The FA have put out an Ad for the England managers position one the criteria is to have an established premier league record.
Wenger :bow:
HCZ_Reborn
19-07-2024, 03:06 PM
The FA have put out an Ad for the England managers position one the criteria is to have an established premier league record.
I have applied for the job
Letters
19-07-2024, 04:18 PM
Here's the job spec
https://careers.thefa.com/jobs/vacancy/england-mens-senior-team-head-coach-nfcsgp0377-national-football-centre-st-georges-park/2137/description/
Niall_Quinn
02-08-2024, 09:09 PM
Le Tiss. Would do a bang up job. At least he'd get the curry sorted out for Friday nights. And the footie, who gives a fuck about that boring shit anyway? Was it the WC or Euros, I can't even remember - but every team in that was shit. Pure shit. So who cares who we get to manage shit, unless it's for the sewage company, in which case okay, that's a serious matter.
Niall_Quinn
02-08-2024, 09:11 PM
Pep? OMFG! He's the cunt that finally killed off the game. It would be so ironic if he ended up managing the nation that brought football to the world. The ultimate triumph for the wreckers.
Mac76
02-08-2024, 09:12 PM
Le Tiss. Would do a bang up job. At least he'd get the curry sorted out for Friday nights. And the footie, who gives a fuck about that boring shit anyway? Was it the WC or Euros, I can't even remember - but every team in that was shit. Pure shit. So who cares who we get to manage shit, unless it's for the sewage company, in which case okay, that's a serious matter.
I wondered why my local offy had run out of the hard stuff, this explains everything
Niall_Quinn
02-08-2024, 09:13 PM
I wondered why my local offy had run out of the hard stuff, this explains everything
That all you got Barbera?
Mac76
02-08-2024, 09:17 PM
That all you got Barbera?
Is that what you asked them in the offy?
Niall_Quinn
02-08-2024, 09:35 PM
Is that what you asked them in the offy?
Oh man. It hurts thinking down to this level.
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