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Cripps_orig
16-08-2012, 05:27 PM
Twitter :lol:
KSE Comedy Club
16-08-2012, 06:49 PM
Is this true?
What no. is poldi going to have?
Marc Overmars
16-08-2012, 07:23 PM
Wiltsheer is indeed the number 10.
Although I'm still inclined to believe he was all an illusion.
This complete media embargo that wilshere has going on is very weird. I understand the twitter thing - Szczesny and Wilshere have probably been warned by wenger so they've stopped. But why the complete media blackout on wilshere's part? I understand there's a massive overreaction on his fitness updates but that's to be expected. I can't believe the Wilshere can't handle the pressure of it. The little-englander probably thrives on it.
Apparently Wilshere closed his Twitter account after some people accused him of failing a drugs test.
His girlfriend closed hers too.
Apparently Wilshere closed his Twitter account after some people accused him of failing a drugs test.
It would be very weird if that was linked to the reason.
Meh. As long as the October return ( :haha: ) is on track, it's all good.
Wumger says month until he's back in training. Should return same time as Rosicky and Sagna.
Wheelchair :rose:
Jack Wilshere has spoken of his immense pride after being handed Arsenal’s coveted No 10 shirt.
The young midfielder is currently nursing an ankle injury which has kept him out of action for a year but he is back in light training ahead of the new season.
Wilshere, who has been with the Club since the age of nine, says that following in the footsteps of some former greats gives him extra motivation.
"It's such an honour for me,” he told Arsenal.com. “Getting the No 10 shirt again at the Club means so much to me as I wore it all through the youth teams at Arsenal.
“It has a special place for all attacking or creative players. I feel proud to wear it now after some real Club legends have worn it, such as Dennis Bergkamp.
“Now I am even more excited about returning to action and honouring the shirt.”
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wilshere-the-no-10-shirt-is-an-honour
:lol: nice
:haha:
He's coming back to life IMO.
I_Killed_Kenny
17-08-2012, 12:40 PM
he will be like a new signing! yay!
Marc Overmars
17-08-2012, 12:47 PM
:haha:
He's coming back to life IMO.
I'll believe it when I see him on the pitch and bottling taxi drivers off it.
Keith
17-08-2012, 01:04 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4483108/Ow-Ive-been-car-Jacked.html
How about whacking car salesmen instead?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4483108/Ow-Ive-been-car-Jacked.html
How about whacking car salesmen instead?
car salesman Lionel Acquah says he got painful neck injury
:lol: Course he did, course he did...
Olivier's xmas twist
17-08-2012, 03:45 PM
New Arsenal No 10 Jack Wilshere has delivered a cheeky parting shot to Robin van Persie after hailing 'real club legends' to have worn the shirt, and not mentioning the Dutchman.
The former captain completed his £24million move to Manchester United on Friday, vacating the No 10 he had worn for two seasons.
Wilshere, who hasn't featured for the Gunners for more than a year through injury, has left his No 19 jersey for new boy Santi Cazorla and taking on a shirt number synonymous with the creative hub of attack.
Before Van Persie, William Gallas bizarrely held the coveted spot, inheriting it from Arsenal legend Dennis Bergkamp after the Dutchman retired.
England international Wilshere, who hopes to be fit by the end of October, said: "It's such an honour for me. Getting the No 10 shirt again at the Club means so much to me as I wore it all through the youth teams at Arsenal.
'It has a special place for all attacking or creative players. I feel proud to wear it now after some real Club legends have worn it, such as Dennis Bergkamp.'
'Now I am even more excited about returning to action and honouring the shirt.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2189793/Jack-Wilshere-dig-Robin-van-Persie.html#ixzz23opM7qUp
Jack :bow:
Young Guns 11
23-08-2012, 09:29 PM
Koscielny, Ox and Wilshere Injury Update #AFC
false:Most of the first team squad were given the day off today, apart from those receiving treatment.
Everyone in last week's squad will be involved, Gervinho's issue was cramp. Alex Oxlade-Charmberlain is expected to be fit after recovering well. The biggest doubt is Koscielny. Whilst the rest of the first team had a day off, he was in receiving treatment. "Kos was getting treatment but moving freely, lets see what happens tomorrow".
Long term injury absentee Jack Wilshere is making fine progress. He's even told staff he "wants to play next weekend!" Although he's currently running outdoors freely without pain, the club are being extra cautious with him to avoid anymore setbacks. He's penciled in for a return to full training in just over 3 weeks time, however I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back quicker.
From that man, AFCamden :bow:
Well apparently Jack hasn't even started running with the ball yet so this sudden 'full training in 3 weeks' sounds a bit far-fetched?
Young Guns 11
23-08-2012, 11:06 PM
Well apparently Jack hasn't even started running with the ball yet so this sudden 'full training in 3 weeks' sounds a bit far-fetched?
No, not really? If he's been running freely for a while now, that can mean light training for a couple of weeks and then full training...
Cripps_orig
23-08-2012, 11:08 PM
So he'll be back in full training in 3 weeks and back in the first team a couple of weeks after that which would make it October i think
That was the estimated time anyway
AFCamden in talking shit again shocker :haha:
Young Guns 11
23-08-2012, 11:50 PM
So he'll be back in full training in 3 weeks and back in the first team a couple of weeks after that which would make it October i think
That was the estimated time anyway
AFCamden in talking shit again shocker :haha:
So how does that make him talking shit?! :lol:
Cripps_orig
23-08-2012, 11:51 PM
So how does that make him talking shit?! :lol:
No doubt he will claim to be the first to break the news and he will milk it
Young Guns 11
23-08-2012, 11:55 PM
:lol: Of course of course
WengerISaLizard
24-08-2012, 03:39 AM
I love Ach and his terrible opinions
can't wait for wilshere to return, with him so close and hopefully having a successful return, we wont need the likes of sahin for creativity
No, not really? If he's been running freely for a while now, that can mean light training for a couple of weeks and then full training...
I'm no expert but surely running with the ball is actually a massive deal for those who have ankle problems? It's one thing to jog about freely - or even sprint. But to run with the ball, to me, seems like a big step. We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
I'm no expert but surely running with the ball is actually a massive deal for those who have ankle problems? It's one thing to jog about freely - or even sprint. But to run with the ball, to me, seems like a big step. We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
Hence Diaby's problems.
NOt only are ankle injuries notoriously difficult to mend, they also impact on other parts of the body. Add to that the stresses and strains on the body which football creates (turning / tackling / twisting / Jumping etc), it's a recipe for a breakdown.
Hopefully we're taking this slowly and building him back up.
Young Guns 11
24-08-2012, 12:36 PM
I'm no expert but surely running with the ball is actually a massive deal for those who have ankle problems? It's one thing to jog about freely - or even sprint. But to run with the ball, to me, seems like a big step. We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
Well they've already taken extra precautions with him, and it sounds like he's been running pain-free for a while now, but the club just want to be extra-safe. From what I've read and providing he has no more setbacks, I'd be surprised if he was't in full training in about 3 weeks, then it's getting match fitness, couple of reserve games etc and then first team action another 3 weeks or so after that. Happy days
Keith
24-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Isn't it a knee problem that is keeping him out? Aren't the ankle problems fixed?
Grebbo
24-08-2012, 12:50 PM
Isn't it a knee problem that is keeping him out? Aren't the ankle problems fixed?
I was going to say the same. I thought his ankle was now fine, it's the knee operation that he's recovering from.
His knee problem was as a result of the ankle problem :good:
If this guy is ever fit (and it's a big if) he'll take ages to get back to anywhere near what he was before the injury, that's if he does of course. We've seen this before with long term injuries...it's foolish for Wenger to rely on him or indeed Rosicky who has been injured for almost his entire time with us.
Why does Wenger never plan for something which has become almost inevitable?
His knee problem was as a result of the ankle problem :good:
The ankle bone's connected to the knee bone
The knee bone's connected to the hip bone.
It's a miracle he can walk, tbh.
Grebbo
24-08-2012, 01:04 PM
Why does Wenger never plan for something which has become almost inevitable?
It's a mystery. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
If this guy is ever fit (and it's a big if) he'll take ages to get back to anywhere near what he was before the injury, that's if he does of course. We've seen this before with long term injuries...it's foolish for Wenger to rely on him or indeed Rosicky who has been injured for almost his entire time with us.
Why does Wenger never plan for something which has become almost inevitable?
What like buying cazorla?
The ankle bone's connected to the knee bone
The knee bone's connected to the hip bone.
It's a miracle he can walk, tbh.
It's all Wengers fault!!
Olivier's xmas twist
24-08-2012, 01:10 PM
Why does Wenger never plan for something which has become almost inevitable?
Can't really plan for a setback though can you. And anway was Carzola not bought to cover Jack anyways.
Olivier's xmas twist
24-08-2012, 01:10 PM
It's all Wengers fault!!
:lol:
What like buying cazorla?
No, Cazorla isn't a replacement for him, in addition we needed more players. We lacked creativity last season...Cazorla is merely helping solve that issue.
Can't really plan for a setback though can you. And anway was Carzola not bought to cover Jack anyways.
Ah come on, how many seasons have we had these injury problems, these aren't setbacks these are part of the course. I'd rather have too many good players than not enough, we're relying on a guy who's been out over a year to come back and have a big influence on our season....hardly realistic.
Almost every long term injured player takes a long time to get back to form and fitness (if he ever does), that's if he doesn't pick up another injury (which is quite common). We've seen it with a quite a few of our own players now.
Olivier's xmas twist
24-08-2012, 01:24 PM
Ah come on, how many seasons have we had these injury problems, these aren't setbacks these are part of the course. I'd rather have too many good players than not enough, we're relying on a guy who's been out over a year to come back and have a big influence on our season....hardly realistic.
Almost every long term injured player takes a long time to get back to form and fitness (if he ever does), that's if he doesn't pick up another injury (which is quite common). We've seen it with a quite a few of our own players now.
Medical team out tbh.
No, Cazorla isn't a replacement for him, in addition we needed more players. We lacked creativity last season...Cazorla is merely helping solve that issue.
:good:
Sack Wenger!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynf0AJuha7g
Hate Jack. What a cocktease.
Arsenal.com @Arsenal
Wenger: "It looks very good for Wilshere. I would say give him a month." #LFCvAFC
Arsene the psychopath at it again.
Master Splinter
02-09-2012, 03:31 PM
Arsenal.com @Arsenal
Wenger: "But we do not like to say exactly when" #DNF
.
Master Splinter
02-09-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm not making this one up:
on Jack Wilshere...
He is looking very good in training. Close, it depends what you call close. I would still give him a month. But it looks very good. In a month he should be starting to play again.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-podolski-is-deadly-when-there-is-a-chance-
:haha:
WUMger :bow:.
McNamara That Ghost...
02-09-2012, 05:57 PM
:lol:
He is in the dead/alive period too.
Cripps_orig
05-09-2012, 11:57 AM
SJW wasnt named in the CL squad
He is supposedly due back next month. CL games run until December. Safe to say we wont see him this side of Xmas
I_Killed_Kenny
05-09-2012, 12:08 PM
SJW wasnt named in the CL squad
He is supposedly due back next month. CL games run until December. Safe to say we wont see him this side of Xmas
I think he doesnt have to be named as he is u21 homegrown but may be getting the prem and euro rules mixed up there
Cripps_orig
05-09-2012, 12:13 PM
You make a good point. UEFA changing the rules all the time is annoying
Nevertheless, still wont see him before Xmas so its a moo point
McNamara That Ghost...
05-09-2012, 12:20 PM
Wheelchair can be registered ahead of the Last 16/Round of 32, whatever competition we find ourselves in. :ninja:
I_Killed_Kenny
05-09-2012, 12:21 PM
You make a good point. UEFA changing the rules all the time is annoying
Nevertheless, still wont see him before Xmas so its a moo point
He will be like a new signing in january
I_Killed_Kenny
05-09-2012, 12:22 PM
Wheelchair can be registered ahead of the Last 16/Round of 32, whatever competition we find ourselves in. :ninja:
In all honesty we could probably win the Europa so wouldn't be the worst thing IMO
He'll be back in 2 weeks, there's a press conference at 7 to confirm this.
Wenger was on his way to the press conference but then he realised he had no press.
Master Splinter
05-09-2012, 06:29 PM
:haha:
Lord Nelson
05-09-2012, 08:34 PM
SJW wasnt named in the CL squad
He is supposedly due back next month. CL games run until December. Safe to say we wont see him this side of Xmas
Why are you so f****ng negative?? This is great news for Jack and Arsenal! He will be playing early October!
Marc Overmars
05-09-2012, 08:34 PM
Lol no he won't.
Cripps_orig
06-09-2012, 12:30 AM
Why are you so f****ng negative?? This is great news for Jack and Arsenal! He will be playing early October!
No chance.
If he plays this side of Xmas, il eat my hat
Gooner23
06-09-2012, 08:20 AM
Hes def in the champs league squad, its on the arsenal.com now
Grebbo
06-09-2012, 08:30 AM
I have been YouTubing Jack videos :ninja:
Be great to see him back. It's going to be really difficult for him to get game time though. Perfect game would have been the League Cup against Coventry in a couple of weeks time but I guess that game is a couple of years too early for him.
Niall_Quinn
06-09-2012, 09:18 AM
Why are you so f****ng negative?? This is great news for Jack and Arsenal! He will be playing early October!
Agreed - the guy just moans the whole time. Jack will be tearing up the league by the end of next month and while it may be a bit soon to sell him in January we can certainly get a pile of cash for him next summer. It's all good!
Cripps_orig
06-09-2012, 11:09 AM
Me negative and a moaner?
3 time, 3 time, 3 time winner of the most Optimistic poster award says different
They are on my mantelpiece at home
Olivier's xmas twist
06-09-2012, 05:09 PM
They are on my mantelpiece at home
Homemade Awards :bow:
Homemade Awards :bow:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/--CdA8IhE6Q/0.jpg
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
06-09-2012, 06:18 PM
:lol:
Olivier's xmas twist
06-09-2012, 06:41 PM
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/--CdA8IhE6Q/0.jpg
:haha:
Cripps_orig
16-09-2012, 11:07 PM
Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere, 20, is set to return to training this week after a year out with foot and knee injuries.
Full story: Daily Mirror
He wont get in the team
Just played PES and it turns out he'll make his comeback with a sub appearance against Olympiakos. Probably a good idea to get a ticket for that game. The reception he'll get... :cloud9:
Cripps_orig
16-09-2012, 11:25 PM
Will he be fit for the Coventry game?
I want to be there for the return
Fuck know when he'll ever play after that cos i expect him to get injured
Doubt he'll play in the next month. Rumours of arranging some low-key friendlies.
Marc Overmars
20-09-2012, 02:39 PM
Wheelchair has returned to full training. :yikes:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/45081/arsenal-train-ahead-of-man-city-pictures
Complete with a GHEL number 1 all over.
It's on!
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:44 PM
**** better make an appearance v Coventry
Bench or starting, i got tickets on the assumption he will play some part
Dont care about the result itself
All about Jack
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Jack :bow:
Like a new signing :bow:
That is so awesome.
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/scaled/498x372/sep_12/zp_152585776_SM_0038_B_9ACE33_copy_3726.jpg?ic=b66 3aeT
My favourite Arsenal player ever in the middle.
Cazorla 2nd.
Bergkamp 3rd.
Loving the Wazza cut too.
The new Rooney?
I wouldn't like to comment on speculation.
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:49 PM
Cazorla 2nd after 3 decentish games and 1 average?
Impressive
Imagine how high he'd be if he actually had end product
Henry 4th.
Actually, that's a lie. Pires 4th.
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:51 PM
Hleb :rose:
Jack and Scott Parker have this incredible ability to look retarded in every photo that's ever taken of them.
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/scaled/498x383/sep_12/zp_152585776_SM_0151_4_9ACE4D_copy_4330.jpg?ic=633 974T
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/scaled/396x498/sep_12/zp_152585776_SM_0319_4_9ACE38_copy_8311.jpg?ic=8bc fe2T
Amazing.
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:52 PM
If Sir Jack turns out half as good as Parker, we will have a gem of a player
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 02:54 PM
If Sir Jack turns out half as good as Parker, we will have a gem of a player
Not hard seeing as Parker is shite.
Marc Overmars
20-09-2012, 02:55 PM
Question is, does he go straight into the first 11?
Arteta is pretty settled as the anchor and Cozola is world class. So I'm guessing Diaby's position is the one up for rotation.
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:55 PM
Not hard seeing as Parker is shite.
Oh dear :rolleyes:
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Question is, does he go straight into the first 11?
Arteta is pretty settled as the anchor and Cozola is world class. So I'm guessing Diaby's position is the one up for rotation.
Hope not.
Rest him v City
Play v Coventry.
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Question is, does he go straight into the first 11?
Arteta is pretty settled as the anchor and Cozola is world class. So I'm guessing Diaby's position is the one up for rotation.
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
20-09-2012, 03:00 PM
squad. depth.
thank you lord.
fakeyank
20-09-2012, 03:03 PM
JW :bow:
Looks like its curtains for Abu Dhabi :lol: :rose:
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 03:04 PM
squad. depth.
thank you lord.
:bow:
Frimpong is back too :bow:
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 03:06 PM
:bow:
Frimpong is back too :bow:
yay
I_Killed_Kenny
20-09-2012, 03:11 PM
woohoo!
we also have rosicky to come back, they will be like new signings!
I_Killed_Kenny
20-09-2012, 03:15 PM
**** better make an appearance v Coventry
Bench or starting, i got tickets on the assumption he will play some part
Dont care about the result itself
All about Jack
same here mate, 1st match i am going to this season, would be great to see him and pong back in action.
fakeyank
20-09-2012, 03:16 PM
Whats wrong with Rosicky btw? Need to send ping pong back on loan..
I_Killed_Kenny
20-09-2012, 03:18 PM
Whats wrong with Rosicky btw? Need to send ping pong back on loan..
keep him. frimmy did say that if RVP left he would do him in! let him loose in the manure game i say! then loan him out
keep him. frimmy did say that if RVP left he would do him in! let him loose in the manure game i say! then loan him out
:lol:
I'll have a bit of that :good:
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 03:33 PM
Need to send ping pong back on loan..
Id like us to keep him, but i can see this happening, then again, with our Injury record we'll need him.
I_Killed_Kenny
20-09-2012, 03:38 PM
hasnt the loan window closed anyway?
I_Killed_Kenny
20-09-2012, 03:38 PM
:lol:
I'll have a bit of that :good:
and then him and lethal bizzle can make a song about nobbling RVP!
Dennis Bendtner
20-09-2012, 03:41 PM
Super Jack II signs a new contract http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/jack-jebb-signs-first-professional-contract
Not Jebbskins?!
What a momentous day in the history of the club.
Tears of joy. Or boredom. One of the two.
Olivier's xmas twist
20-09-2012, 03:46 PM
hasnt the loan window closed anyway?
Good point.
Little bit Woah
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/scaled/396x498/sep_12/zp_152585776_SM_0319_4_9ACE38_copy_8311.jpg?ic=8bc fe2T
Little bit whey.
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/aug_12/gun__1345028131_Jebb.jpg
Cripps_orig
20-09-2012, 03:50 PM
Super Jack II signs a new contract http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/jack-jebb-signs-first-professional-contract
scored his first goal with a fine free-kick against Leicester City.
Get him in the team
Super Jack II signs a new contract http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/jack-jebb-signs-first-professional-contract
Great, now someone get him a new haircut!
Fist of Lehmann
20-09-2012, 04:42 PM
Look at that face.
We're really churning out the GHELs now.
Dennis Bendtner
20-09-2012, 06:09 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/aug_12/gun__1346171160_playerprofile_jebb.jpg
The eyebrows http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-gif-black-kid-scared-crying.gif
Master Splinter
20-09-2012, 06:37 PM
As ever, it's two out and one in.
Nasri and Patrice out, Jebb in.
Keith
20-09-2012, 07:52 PM
Must be hard being injured for so long, I heard he bought a £3.5m house
Xhaka Can’t
20-09-2012, 07:54 PM
The fucker gazumped me.
I_Killed_Kenny
21-09-2012, 04:54 PM
Jacks not expected back to play in a reserve game for about 3wks still. Bummer, was hoping to see him v coventry next week. Frimmy may make that as he has a reserve game pencilled in soon n is closer to action than jack anyway
Master Splinter
22-09-2012, 05:37 AM
"It's difficult to predict [how long he needs to find his best form]."
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745327.jpg
"After three months of competition for sure he would be back."
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745335.jpg
"It takes some while to find the little burst again."
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745345.jpg
"Between the ages of 18 to 20, around 60 per cent of them have stress fractures."
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/STAGING/brand_assets/Castrol/images/racing/sa_wenger_375x240.gif
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-wilshere-will-be-better-than-ever
WUMger at his best.
Ernesto
22-09-2012, 11:28 AM
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/aug_12/gun__1346171160_playerprofile_jebb.jpg
The eyebrows http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-gif-black-kid-scared-crying.gif
Who's he?
McNamara That Ghost...
22-09-2012, 11:30 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Duke_Nukem.png
Japan Shaking All Over
22-09-2012, 01:30 PM
Always thought the third strip was our best. . . the gun comes in handy for any game that Dowd refs
Young Guns 11
25-09-2012, 01:54 AM
From AFCAMDEN, as "controversial" as he is...
Jack's back in full training, and he'll be back to his best in no time. Likely to feature next week #afc
After a challenging 13 months out since breaking down before the Champions League qualifier with Udinese, Jack Wilshere has returned to full training. He joined in last Thursday with the players who played no or small part in the Montpellier fixture, and it was like he'd never been away.
Medical staff have been extra cautious with Jack, easing him back in to training at a slower than usual pace to ensure he doesn't have any setbacks. He's been raring to go for a few weeks and feels like he is ready, although he understands the long-term is important and patience is required. He joined in with full training on Thursday and staff were delighted with him. He's physically stronger now after months in the gym, but that class and finesse to his game is still there. Jack himself thinks he can play in Wednesday's COC tie with Coventry, however it has come to soon for him. He and Emmanuel Frimpong will not be involved, instead they are penned in to feature in Arsenal's U21 fixture away to West Brom next Monday, if they come through this week training in good health and unscathed.
Finally, from the horses mouth. Here's a coach's take on his return. All you need to know:
"Jack is doing fantastic. His ability is still there, with Mikel and Santi both amazed by his quality in Friday's session. He lacks the sharpness and first 5 yards of pace at the moment, but that will come with training with the first team and games. He's already been nut-megging certain other midfielders in training! and it's clear he's still got it. Fans may need to be patient with him as he returns, but we are confident that he will be back to his best in no time"
That's called little bit guessing little bit paraphrasing Wenger.
“He will play on Monday, he will play his first game with the under-21s, maybe an hour or something like that,” Wenger said.
“It's another important step but he has not played for 14 months so we have to calm your [the media’s] impatience a little bit.
“It is fantastic for him. When you are at that age and are out for such a long time, it is absolutely massive to take [for] him and Frimpong.
“Frimpong had two knee injuries, Jack had two setbacks. It is massive for them to come back and for us as well.”
Wenger wants Wilshere to make a steady return to action, and does not think it would be beneficial for him to play in next month’s England double header against San Marino and Poland.
“I think that will be too early for him,” he said. “He has not played for 14 months.”
14 months.
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745327.jpg
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745335.jpg
http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/745345.jpg
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/STAGING/brand_assets/Castrol/images/racing/sa_wenger_375x240.gif
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-wilshere-will-be-better-than-ever
WUMger at his best.
Only just seen this!
:haha:
:haha:
I want more WUMger. I'm in the mood for giggles today :lol:
The return of Sir Jack to-morrow! :bow:
McNamara That Ghost...
30-09-2012, 05:39 PM
Wreath on standby.
@Arsenallive: "Half time: West Brom 1-0 Arsenal - Jack Wilshere has been lively and showing no ill effects from his injury problems at all encouragingly"
Jack played for an hour before being stretchered off.
Probably.
Power n Glory
01-10-2012, 02:28 PM
It was obvious Eduardo wasn't the same player after his injury but I thought it was more of a mental issue. Career ruined by that bloody lumbering prick Taylor. It's interesting to here what Wenger has to say about Jack, but he can't be so sure can he? Diaby's injury stems back to that dirty shit Dan Smith and he's never been the same since. But on the flip side, we have Ramsey who made a full recovery. No idea how complicated Jack's injury was, but it's kept him out for a long time and he wasn't done over like Eduardo which is worrying.
Cripps_orig
01-10-2012, 03:24 PM
What Wilshere needs is a good hard tackle done on him.
If he comes out of that ok, he'll be fine. Thats what Keown did to Becks for England back in the 2002 world cup
Marc Overmars
05-10-2012, 11:06 AM
Wenget says he's still taking precaution but Wheelchair will play with the U21's again next week.
It's on Monday again.
After that's the int. break anyway but then you'd have to think - if all goes well ( :haha: ) - he'll start getting on the bench.
Wenget says he's still taking precaution but Wheelchair will play with the U21's again next week.
Supwised Woy and Pearcey haven't alweady dwafted him into the squad for San Maweeno.
Should be playing tonight along with Frimpong and maybe Sagna. :scarf:
I think we'll get footage of his performance considering the match is at home.
Come on hype.
And come on England.
Grebbo
08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Jack played 70 minutes. I really hope we see him in the Prem this month as our November fixtures look too difficult for us to ease him back in.
You'd have thought our next games of Norwich away, QPR and Schalke at home and then Reading in the Cap Cup would be ideal for him to get some minutes.
Master Splinter
08-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Yeah, RPQ are getting Wilshered.
But they have Park. Fuck.
Save Wilshere for the next game so he can have a winning return to life.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
08-10-2012, 10:26 PM
went underhill tonight.
wilshere was sublime, its like he's never been away. his composure on the ball and general awareness was incredible. turning players left right and centre and played a few killer balls. played a major part in both goals.
gnabry was unbelievably good. his finish for the first goal was good. he seems quite mature for his age, id say he's in the oxlade-chamberlain category.
hajrovic was a stand out player. had jason roberts in his pocket which tbh probably doesnt mean much but he kept someone with jasons experience quiet all game which shows how good he is. was strong, skillful and composed at all times.
sagna was solid as usual, didn't really do anything in particular but was good when called upon.
santos was woeful at the start but grew into the game.
dench was his typical aggressive self. good squad player.
Master Splinter
08-10-2012, 10:31 PM
Jason Roberts :lol:.
Wenget has arranged a behind-closed-doors game on Wednesday for Wilshere to take on whatever cack Chelsea send out.
If all goes well ( :haha: ) I'd guess he might be on the bench for the home game against Schalke.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-jack-wilshere-to-play-in-a-behind-closed-doors-1380895
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
16-10-2012, 12:41 AM
played 45 in his first game i think
70 in his 2nd game
full 90 this wednesday
then first team football begins
wheelchair showing that british bulldog spirit :bow:
Wilshere and Sagna played the full 90 mins today: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wilshere-sagna-play-in-friendly-at-colney
Arsenal.com aren't over-selling it like they usually do.
Wilshere himself went close to an equaliser in the 65th minute, surging into the box and forcing a low save from Blackman. It was a sign that Wilshere's trademark "burst" is gradually returning.
Doesn't sound terribly convincing. I guess a couple more games in the reserves is likely.
Grebbo
17-10-2012, 02:18 PM
I think Reading CC match in a couple of weeks is supposed to be his first team come back game.
Be interesting to see how he gets back into the team as our November fixtures look too difficult to risk him in.
Master Splinter
17-10-2012, 04:56 PM
We are confident that Wilshere will develop his little burst again.
Am I 100% convinced?
There is a 98.45% chance that I am convinced, yes.
But we must be faithful to doubt and respect the other 1.65%.
As well you know, his football age is 12. You will see a new Wilshere, I am convinced of that.
His sister Rosie is training with us.
But we must be faithful .
Nice.
That little burst is the difference between a career like parlour's and a career like Iniesta's. he is nothing without that so of course there is concern.
Dennis Bendtner
17-10-2012, 09:48 PM
I guess his first full game is big news. 14 months out is a bloody long time. There's an u21 against Everton next Monday which he could play, all going well might put him in contention for the Reading game? All said and done, they better not break him.
Very interesting team for this 'specially-arranged friendly': Arsenal: Martinez (Shea 45), Sagna, Squillaci (Jenkinson 45), Miquel, Santos (Meade 63), Coquelin (Yennaris 63), Frimpong, Wilshere, Gnabry, Arshavin (Eisfeld 63), Chamakh (Akpom 45)
Santos, Coquelin and Jenkers playing. Arshavin playing. Even Chamakh and fucking Squillaci played some football!
Cripps_orig
17-10-2012, 09:50 PM
Going to the Schalke game next week
Chances of him being in the squad?
selassie
18-10-2012, 12:55 PM
Wilshere and Sagna played the full 90 mins today: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wilshere-sagna-play-in-friendly-at-colney
Arsenal.com aren't over-selling it like they usually do.
.Doesn't sound terribly convincing. I guess a couple more games in the reserves is likely.
I don't think there is any need to panic just yet, not that your panicking!
Anyway, I personally think this season is a write-off for Jack, he's been out too long to be considered a key this season. He will obviously need games in the first team but needs to be eased in gradually and not fast tracked.
It's only now Ramsey is starting to produce decent performances having been out for what 9 months a few seasons ago. Rosicky was the same, it took him quite a while to produce decent performances.
I personally think the burst of speed will come back to Jack once he puts in a regular shift in the team and I personally don't think that will be until next season.
Jack's in the squad for Norwich :popcorn:
Olivier's xmas twist
19-10-2012, 02:06 PM
Jack :bow:
Marc Overmars
19-10-2012, 02:20 PM
I thought this day would never come.
Wiltshire. :bow:
i doubt he's considered for playing, more to integrate him back into a match day squad in preparation for an 'easier' introductory run out at the end of the month at reading.
fakeyank
19-10-2012, 07:24 PM
Best midfielder in the PL is back :bow:
Best midfielder in the PL is black :bow:
Diaby :bow:
Olivier's xmas twist
19-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Diaby :bow:
:gp:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
19-10-2012, 11:26 PM
british bulldog spirit :bow: :bow:
He just played another 90 mins for the reserves/u21's. won 1-2 at Everton, Eisfeld scored both and wilshere assisted one and Hleb'd one.
Reckon he'll start against QPR on Saturday.
Fist of Lehmann
22-10-2012, 01:27 PM
Eisfeld :bow:
Kid's got an eye for goal.
Marc Overmars
22-10-2012, 01:29 PM
Time for him to be fast tracked into the first team.
Germans. :bow:
Eisfeld is little bit exceptional.
Olivier's xmas twist
22-10-2012, 03:30 PM
Eisfeld is little bit exceptional.
Has that extra 2% the team is missing :coffee:
Master Splinter
23-10-2012, 02:48 AM
Time for him to be fast tracked into the first team.
Germans. :bow:
Pretty much.
GHELmans :bow:.
Not sure about that one tbf.
Gfabskins was alwiys regarded to have tremendous quality. But I must say Eisfeld falls little short because he is as well already 19. That is past the age of the Arsene prodigiew to make an imp!ct.
selassie
23-10-2012, 12:22 PM
Does Eisfield play a little bit with zee handbrake on? :unsure:
Olivier's xmas twist
04-11-2012, 10:58 AM
So how long is he suspended for.
Cripps_orig
04-11-2012, 11:31 AM
1 game
Against Fulham next week
A game im going to
So i wont see him play
Prick
Him not you
Well.....
Olivier's xmas twist
04-11-2012, 11:37 AM
1 game
Against Fulham next week
A game im going to
So i wont see him play
Prick
Him not you
Well.....
Disgusting how Ach treats me on here, well except when we talk eastenders.
Cripps_orig
04-11-2012, 12:39 PM
Should he start v Schalke?
Considering he doesnt have another game til Spuds 11 days later, i think we should
Already our best midfielder this season and hes only had an hour or so in both games hes played.
Shows how poor our midfield is
'I’ve been at this club 10 years and to come through the academy at Hale End and break into the first team is a great story. It’s a dream. To have my family 20 minutes from the training ground and an hour from the stadium is perfect for me. Cesc wanted to go home. Home for me is Arsenal. Cesc wanted to go back to his family and friends. My family and friends are 20 minutes away. It’s perfect. I’ve played 39 games in the Premier League, which is nothing when you look at players like Tony Adams and how many appearances they made. That’s something I want to do'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2230725/Jack-Wilshere-I-wont-quit-Arsenal.html#ixzz2BpQUsQkr
S'Jack. :lol:
So naive. It's not your choice to stay.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-11-2012, 02:24 PM
1 game
Against Fulham next week
A game im going to
So i wont see him play
Prick
Him not you
Well.....
At what stage did we agree to just casually refer to jack as a pr*ck non-stop? Should we just give up the pretense of being an Arsenal forum any more?
Cripps_orig
26-11-2012, 11:53 PM
Jack Wilshere, 20, opens talks with Arsenal over new deal as manager Arsene Wenger prepares to hand the England midfielder the captaincy.Full story: Daily MailLooks like we are looking to sell Jack soon
gooners
26-11-2012, 11:58 PM
hit the road, jack! :whistle:
Olivier's xmas twist
27-11-2012, 12:03 AM
Looks like we are looking to sell Jack soon
Daily mail :haha: Goal.com's sources. :haha:
Did not know you believed everything you read.
Cripps_orig
27-11-2012, 12:19 AM
I believe you have an unhealthy obsession with Goal.com. Could be worse. You could believe everything you read on Twitter......oh wait you do :haha: As for Jack, I read he injured his ankle again but Wenger says its very minor. Only out for the season this team instead of 17 months
Olivier's xmas twist
27-11-2012, 12:36 AM
I believe you have an unhealthy obsession with Goal.com. Could be worse. You could believe everything you read on Twitter......oh wait you do :haha: As for Jack, I read he injured his ankle again but Wenger says its very minor. Only out for the season this team instead of 17 months
Team :bow:
Olivier's xmas twist
16-12-2012, 12:05 AM
Jack Wilshere has handed Arsenal a massive boost by revealing he is on the verge of signing a new contract with the club.
Midfielder Wilshere’s dream is to become the Arsenal captain and lead the Gunners out of a *trophy drought that is stretching on towards eight years.
Arsenal have been in talks with England international Wilshere about signing a new long-term deal, that will run more than five years, worth £80,000-a-week.
And, despite the club falling to a new low by being knocked out of the Capital One Cup by League Two Bradford, Wilshere is ready to prove his commitment to Arsenal.
The news gives the Gunners and manager Arsene Wenger a huge lift after seeing Robin van Persie, Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri all quit the club – and with doubts growing over the futures of Theo Walcott and Bacary Sagna.
Wilshere said: “Yeah, I’m talking to the club and I probably will be *committing my future to the club in the next couple of weeks. I know the club are going through a bad time, but it’s not a problem for me.
‘I think you’ve seen over the past few years the top players have probably thought they don’t see a bright future at Arsenal. But it’s different for them, they were a bit older than me.
“I’m 20, I’ve still got a long way, touch wood, to go in my career.
“Players like Robin are older and maybe he thought ‘I haven’t got time any more’. And Cesc wanted to go home to Spain, which was *understandable
“But, for me, I’m young and there are older players around me, and also younger *players around me.
“So in the next three or four years, we can challenge for *everything.”Wilshere – who the Sunday Mirror caught up with at an EA SPORTS FIFA 13 Ultimate Team event – has a clear aim at Arsenal that he is desperate to achieve, and insists that his *under-fire manager Wenger is still the right man for the job. “I want to *captain this club one day,” said Wilshere, who will face Reading with Arsenal *tomorrow night.
“I’ve been here since I was nine. I know the tradition, and I have been in the first team since I was young.
“Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I’m ready to be captain now. But one day, yeah.
“I think we can still realistically win everything we’re in. I know we’re a long way behind in the *Premier League, but football changes *quickly.
“We know in the Champions League anything can happen.
“We can beat anyone over two games, we showed that *before when we beat *Barcelona at home, so there is no reason we can’t do it again.
“Look at Chelsea last year, nobody would have said last December they’d win the Champions League, but they got a bit of luck.”
Asked why Wenger should still be *Arsenal manager, Wilshere added: “For one, every year we’ve been in the *Champions League and no other *manager has done that
“He’s built a legacy at this club. He changed *everything, brought total football to *Arsenal, if you like, the passing game. There’s no question he’s the right man for the job.
“The players have to look at *themselves. The *manager puts a team out – and if the players can’t do it, it’s not his fault.”
Meanwhile, Wilshere insists Thierry Henry can give Arsenal the perfect New Year boost.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jack-wilshere-close-to-signing-80000-a-week-1491444
Jack :bow:
Cripps_orig
07-02-2013, 12:38 AM
STUART PEARCE is set for a tug-of-war with Roy Hodgson AND Arsene Wenger over Jack Wilshere this summer.
Under-21s boss Pearce says he still wants Arsenal midfielder Wilshere to play for his kids at the Euros.
That is despite Three Lions chief Hodgson insisting last week that Wilshere, 21, is in his seniors squad for their June 6 friendly in Brazil.
Gunners boss Wenger would also prefer Wilshere to travel to Rio rather than spend a month with the Young Lions in Israel.
But Pearce will ask Hodgson to let him have Wilshere AND fellow Arsenal starlet Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, 19, for the summer finals.
Pearce said: “We will both look at it at the end of April to see who is fit and who needs tournament experience — and collate the squad from there.
“Will I ask him if I can select my strongest squad? Of course.
“Does that include Jack Wilshere and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain? That’s down to Roy really. If he says to me they are available then I wouldn’t say no.”
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4782683/Jack-Wilshere-set-for-three-way-battle-this-summer.html#ixzz2KAXbaFUEfuck off
Xhaka Can’t
07-02-2013, 08:08 AM
and die.
Cripps_orig
07-02-2013, 09:33 AM
Harsh but fair
Özil's Panoramic View
18-03-2013, 12:59 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2013/03/18/3835155/-
Not the most credible of sources, but if there's any semblance of an accurate report here, it sure is cause to despair.
Sir Jack :rose:
Daily Mirror reporting the same thing.
But don't worry, BOBN says he's shit, so not to worry.
Niall_Quinn
18-03-2013, 01:34 PM
Wow, this is the first time we've ever been told a player had a minor knock only for it to develop into a season long injury. I guess we had to get unlucky sooner or later. Thing is, this six weeks will be hugely optimistic no doubt. Next we'll be hearing, good news! Jack will be fit for next season!
Maybe...
Power n Glory
18-03-2013, 01:37 PM
Wenger is an abolsute idiot for overplaying him again. He'll never learn.
Niall_Quinn
18-03-2013, 01:43 PM
We play better without him anyway. Sell him, he's shit.
Niall_Quinn
18-03-2013, 01:43 PM
Wenger I mean...
Marc Overmars
18-03-2013, 01:56 PM
See you in another 18 months, Jack.
wilshere is only rated 82 on fifa, so he ain't so good.
McNamara That Ghost...
18-03-2013, 04:03 PM
Arsenal have said it's a load of cock according to TalkSport - still on course to return against Reading.
I thought it was his ankle?
:rimshot:
He's broken, sell him
Özil's Panoramic View
18-03-2013, 04:27 PM
Arsenal have denied reports Jack Wilshere has suffered a setback in his recovery from injury.
http://m.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130318/arsenal-rubbish-reports-jack-wilshere-set-lengthy-lay-193902
Jack :rose:
Ollie the Optimist
18-03-2013, 04:36 PM
so no one knows anything about jacks injury, so whats the plan?
just hammer wenger anyway?
fair enough
just hammer wenger anyway?
Sounds good to me, who's going to kick it off?
Niall_Quinn
18-03-2013, 05:06 PM
Arsenal have said it's a load of cock according to TalkSport - still on course to return against Reading.
Damn, maybe he won't make the start of next season then.
Cripps_orig
18-03-2013, 07:40 PM
Now we know why jack signed the contract. This is as good as it will get for an injury prone player
Niall_Quinn
18-03-2013, 08:20 PM
Now we know why jack signed the contract. This is as good as it will get for an injury prone player
Some have suggested he signed because he wants to play for the club. Much more likely a kid touted to become the club captain and a key component of the International set up was after a solid contract so he could stay in the treatment room though.
Now we know why jack signed the contract. This is as good as it will get for an injury prone player
worked out well enough for bale in the end.
worked out well enough for bale in the end.
I don't remember us signing him, must have missed it.
Also I'm not sure it worked out well, he's at Spurs.
i hope you do because i haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Cripps_orig
18-03-2013, 11:05 PM
I don't get what Bale has to do with it
the little chimp was injury prone for years. thankfully jack is from the sapien side of the tree so he won't need chimpgrow to sort it out.
Cripps_orig
18-03-2013, 11:25 PM
Was he? Never really paid much attention to the count before he turned awesome.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
18-03-2013, 11:34 PM
wenger you are a fucking wanker.
Cripps_orig
18-03-2013, 11:39 PM
Not sure how Wenger can be blamed for this one.
Wilshere was fit so he was played. If Wilshere can't hack playing football then maybe he should become an accountant or something
Xhaka Can’t
18-03-2013, 11:45 PM
At Arsenal, that would count as a promotion.
the little chimp was injury prone for years. thankfully jack is from the sapien side of the tree so he won't need chimpgrow to sort it out.
As was Van Persie.
My gripe is that Wenger has overplayed Wilshere - despite saying that he wouldn't at the beginning of the season. For me, Jack should have been understudy to Carzola - not an ever present with him.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
19-03-2013, 08:25 PM
oh yes we can, wenger does not get excluded from blame for wilshere's injury.
a young lad who had just come back from a serious injury, out for 18 months, and was put in the deep end straight away with no rest? :lol: and people say he knows what he's doing? where was the depth to prevent another injury? we overplayed jack again because he doesnt want to invest in cover.
jack will be ko'd soon, dont worry about that. another player added to the list of fuck ups by wenger.
£7.5m :lol:
The guy constantly claims we have enough quality etc etc and then admits to overplaying one of the kids.
Great manager indeed.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
19-03-2013, 10:57 PM
forget football, its morally wrong. it violates the managers responsibilities; the duty to care for and protect your players at all times. the kid has just come back from a serious injury and you're supposed to protect him. we've seen how injuries to players like michael owen at a young age have savaged his whole career, we should have invested to ensure wilshere had no risk of falling under the same curse. but we didnt, we went penny pinching again and put him straight into the man utd game a week after his come back. not only that, we've continually played him since due to lack of squad depth. what the fuck is our manager doing? what is he thinking? under pressure to deliver 4th so he's happy to risk a players career.
we're lucky we got so many games out of him tbh, riding our luck just like we did with rvp last season.
do we ever fucking learn? why do we have to use up all 9 lives? why do we have to learn the hard way? always the same with this bloody club.
Cripps_orig
19-03-2013, 11:06 PM
Wenger is at fault for many things. Picking a footballer to play football isn't one of them. All this over playing malarkey is BS. No such thing as overplaying. They are paid handsomely to play football and should be able to do so. Wilshere is hardly ever fit so when he is, you might as well play him before he dies again which he has. Was always going to happen whether he was rested or not. Our players are regarded as pussy ass bitches for a reason.
fakeyank
19-03-2013, 11:20 PM
Our players are regarded as pussy ass bitches for a reason.
:haha:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
20-03-2013, 01:25 AM
nah. you live in a utopian world.
he came back from 18 months out, you cant put him in every game. the body needs rest and rehabilitation.
i bet owen thought that too after his hamstring went first time. 'fuck it ill play man, my body can cope'.
you're defying science, it'll only end up one way.
Özil's Panoramic View
20-03-2013, 01:39 AM
Funny the stance some folks take when the player isn't fortunate enough to make their list of favourites.
Funny the stance some folks take when the player isn't fortunate enough to make their list of favourites.
nah, it's just the same tired 'everyone else says something positive so i'll say the polar opposite to get reactions for idiots stupid enough to fall for it' schtick. followed by the 'yeah of course i'm just wumming just because i haven't got my tongue wedged up his arse like all the other wengerites' type of post.
Cripps_orig
20-03-2013, 08:57 PM
Funny the stance some folks take when the player isn't fortunate enough to make their list of favourites.
I don't have favourites tbh. I'm not in the business of criticising players to praise others.
Letters
20-03-2013, 09:41 PM
:yawn:
Özil's Panoramic View
24-03-2013, 12:47 AM
He's alright, Jack! Wilshere return set to boost Arsenal hopes of top four finish
....He is keen to come back for Saturday’s clash with Reading at the Emirates, but a more realistic target is the home game with Chris Hughton’s battling Norwich on April 13.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reluctant to rush Wilshere back into action and may decide to leave him out of the Reading match, and the fixture at West Bromwich Albion a week later, to ensure his readiness when he does play again....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-boosted-jack-wilsheres-return-1780999#.UU40xJxLZq4.twitter
:patrice:
Cripps_orig
24-03-2013, 01:03 AM
Not really a big miss in terms of what he brings to the team cos he doesn't bring much but considering him being out would have meant one of Ramsey or Diaby starting, welcome back Jack
Cripps_orig
28-03-2013, 10:19 AM
Might be back for the WBA game
Might be back for the WBA game
Will they still be in the EPL by then?
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
28-03-2013, 11:03 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8602452/Premier-League-Arsenal-delay-Jack-Wilshere-s-comeback-from-injury
:haha:
Grebbo
28-03-2013, 12:53 PM
:rose:
Xhaka Can’t
28-03-2013, 01:37 PM
Call it a day for this season, there is nothing to be gained from rushing him back.
Ah yes, the old 2 weeks timeframe. Out for the season then
Don't think he was overplayed, our players seem to get just as injured in training as in matches.
IMHO this won't make much difference to where we finish. We pretend that Jack's a Cesc or an RVP - but we no longer have those kind of game changers in the team, and much as I love Jack, he's a fair way from being a genuine one. Don't forget how much a desperate nationalistic sports press can distort things.
Niall_Quinn
28-03-2013, 09:19 PM
Same old story every time. This is a pathetic club. Why can't they think up some decent lies? A little deceitful variation would at least relieve the monotony.
Master Splinter
29-03-2013, 11:41 AM
Same old story every time. This is a pathetic club. Why can't they think up some decent lies? A little deceitful variation would at least relieve the monotony.
Try Goal.com.
Or adidasdealthatwasneveronwasalasnevercancelledbutiw illcryandbitchanywaybecausearsenalhazruinedmylife. org.
Niall_Quinn
29-03-2013, 12:00 PM
Try Goal.com.
Or adidasdealthatwasneveronwasalasnevercancelledbutiw illcryandbitchanywaybecausearsenalhazruinedmylife. org.
That second link doesn't work.
Master Splinter
29-03-2013, 12:10 PM
Try it now:
adidasdealthatwasneveronwasalasnevercancelledbutiw illcryandbitchanywaybecausearsenalhazruinedmylife. org (http://s1.wp.com/wp-content/themes/vip/metrouk/img/polar-bear.jpg?m=1354727537g)
Niall_Quinn
29-03-2013, 01:19 PM
Try it now:
adidasdealthatwasneveronwasalasnevercancelledbutiw illcryandbitchanywaybecausearsenalhazruinedmylife. org (http://s1.wp.com/wp-content/themes/vip/metrouk/img/polar-bear.jpg?m=1354727537g)
:good:
Özil's Panoramic View
08-04-2013, 04:21 PM
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2013/04/jack-wilshere-arsenal-world-class-players-george-graham/?utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Twitter
Well said, GG.
Lad is a cut from the real fabric.
Nothing synthetic; just pure and genuine football talent we have on our hands here.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 05:48 PM
We need to get the praise in check. He's not world class and has yet to stamp his authority on that midfield position. He's not vital to that position or someone who we need to keep things ticking over. We've missed Rosicky's presence more and you see the difference when he's playing. If we lose Rosicky next year we'll need to buy a midfield maestro that can fill that gap because Jack, Cazorla and Arteta aren't enough.
We need to get the praise in check. He's not world class and has yet to stamp his authority on that midfield position. He's not vital to that position or someone who we need to keep things ticking over. We've missed Rosicky's presence more and you see the difference when he's playing. If we lose Rosicky next year we'll need to buy a midfield maestro that can fill that gap because Jack, Cazorla and Arteta aren't enough.
Pretty much, yes. Jack's great but has a way to go before he should be considered our go to man. Lets not fall into the 'Ingurlund' trap just yet.
Özil's Panoramic View
08-04-2013, 06:21 PM
We need to get the praise in check. He's not world class and has yet to stamp his authority on that midfield position. He's not vital to that position or someone who we need to keep things ticking over. We've missed Rosicky's presence more and you see the difference when he's playing. If we lose Rosicky next year we'll need to buy a midfield maestro that can fill that gap because Jack, Cazorla and Arteta aren't enough.
He (jack) might not be exactly vital just yet, but remember he's only 21 and has been bugged with injuries which have deprived him of action for most of his short professional career. I have no doubt that if he can overcome injuries and stay fit, he'll be the lynch pin of our team in very short order.
As for Rosicky, a player whom I've always highly rated, no one is questioning his directness in play (something which Jack is widely known for as well), but I'm sure there have been games where he also looked completely out of sorts and wasn't exactly causing things to tick in our midfield. Therefore, I won't place too much expectations on him till he can put together a consistent run of being a bit of a maestro in the middle of the park.
Özil's Panoramic View
08-04-2013, 06:31 PM
PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.
I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.
Xhaka Can’t
08-04-2013, 06:32 PM
Wilshere is being ridiculously overhyped. There is a great deal of promise with him, and occasionally we see flashes of what he is capable of. However at his stage of development, he should be an understudy, but there is no one at the Club to help him and aid his development. We have a real genuine talent, but are we equipped to help him fully realise it?
I don't think so.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 06:50 PM
PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.
I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.
Joe Cole! He had raw talent and was hyped in much the same way Jack is now. Lord knows what happened to Cole but he was an exceptional technical player and most had high hopes for him but it just didn't pan out for him.
Raw talent isn't enough sometimes and Jack still has a lot to learn. This hasn't been Jack's Arsenal defining season and I hate the way the papers are trying to set it up that way. We lack world class talent, every player has been hit and miss, but it's been a group effort with streaks of good form from Cazorla, Theo, Pod, Kos, Merts, Giroud even Gervinho.
Niall_Quinn
08-04-2013, 07:38 PM
PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.
I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.
Agreed, about talent being easy to spot. The naturally gifted players at our club? Wilshere, head and shoulders above the rest. Arshavin could be even better but he's decided against being a footballer. Ox, oozes talent but like Jack it has to be developed and directed. Then there's... hmmm... lemme see. Nobody else.
Rosicky, Podolski, Cazorla fall into the "almost" bracket. They are technically accomplished but they don't demonstrate the instinctive talent of the previous three. All very good players though. Gibbs might be edging in here, not as a defender but more advanced, wide.
Further down the line, players who have to work harder at it. Arteta, Chesney, Sagna, maybe this Monreal guy (he looks a pretty solid defender), I'm putting Ramsey here because he'll bust a gut in between the howlers and there are flashes of talent. Thinking hard now. Kos? Like Ramsey, a potential disaster zone but he can also be decent.
And then the dog shit. Either because they are wildly inconsistent to the point of being harmful, of because they are so technically gash or stupid they don't really deserve to be on a football pitch.
Giroud (fucking useless full stop), Diaby (kills us with his stupidity despite being technical), Walcott (Mr mouth himself), Gervinho (pointless player who can only deliver a final ball by accident), Mertesacker (so slow it's beyond belief), Vermaelen (mostly because he seems incapable of learning from mistakes), Flappy (tries but lets' face it, he's shit), and I probably missed a few out.
With an endless budget I'd keep Jack and Ox, maybe Cazorla and Podolski (Rosicky too injury prone). The rest I'd fuck out the door so fast they'd leave their shadows behind.
Joe Cole! He had raw talent and was hyped in much the same way Jack is now. Lord knows what happened to Cole but he was an exceptional technical player and most had high hopes for him but it just didn't pan out for him.
Raw talent isn't enough sometimes and Jack still has a lot to learn. This hasn't been Jack's Arsenal defining season and I hate the way the papers are trying to set it up that way. We lack world class talent, every player has been hit and miss, but it's been a group effort with streaks of good form from Cazorla, Theo, Pod, Kos, Merts, Giroud even Gervinho.
Food for thought. Its a sign of where we are that papers and pundits thought that Jack's injury would bury our season.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 07:44 PM
Rosicky, Podolski, Cazorla fall into the "almost" bracket. They are technically accomplished but they don't demonstrate the instinctive talent of the previous three. All very good players though. Gibbs might be edging in here, not as a defender but more advanced, wide.
Get the fuck out of here! :lol:
Jack and Ox haven't done shit to be mentioned above these three. Past or present. How can you that haven't demonstrated instinctive talent this season, especially when compared to the two players you hold them against. We've hardly missed Jack and Ox this season.
Niall_Quinn
08-04-2013, 07:46 PM
Get the fuck out of here! :lol:
Jack and Ox haven't done shit to be mentioned above these three. Past or present.
I'm talking about talent, not what they have done. The person I was responding mentioned it's easy to spot talent, and it is.
Master Splinter
08-04-2013, 07:55 PM
If we're talking strictly about talent, it's pretty insane to put anyone above Cazorla.
Never mind when we talk about putting into practice.
And Arshavin has always been too technically ragged to be up there.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 07:57 PM
I'm talking about talent, not what they have done. The person I was responding mentioned it's easy to spot talent, and it is.
And Rosicky wasn't a talent when he was Jack's age? Or Pod wasn't touted as a dangerous German talent when younger? As said, they are all technically gifted players and all have talent. After that it gets done to the 'demonstrated' part you mentioned and that boils down to performance on the pitch. I don't know how you can put those three below Jack on Ox when neither can hit a pass or shot as well as these guys or turn a game around like they can. It's too much hype and they've yet to prove it.
Dennis Bendtner
08-04-2013, 08:02 PM
Wilshere is being ridiculously overhyped. There is a great deal of promise with him, and occasionally we see flashes of what he is capable of. However at his stage of development, he should be an understudy, but there is no one at the Club to help him and aid his development. We have a real genuine talent, but are we equipped to help him fully realise it?
I don't think so.
Should he be an understudy? The best way of fulfilling that promise is giving opportunities to play. He was overused in his first season but that was because he played so well. I don't think he is quite the Fabregas-level precocious talent but at the same time 'flashes' is underselling his season and a half in the first team by quite a bit. Your point about no one being there to aid his development (in terms of playing staff) is fair. That's why Wenger wanted to keep Cesc for another season which would have been really good to watch, though in any case Wilshere was dead last year.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 08:03 PM
If we're talking strictly about talent, it's pretty insane to put anyone above Cazorla.
Never mind when we talk about putting into practice.
And Arshavin has always been too technically ragged to be up there.
Insane indeed. The guys two footed! That alone puts him heads and shoulders above the pack.
Niall_Quinn
08-04-2013, 08:59 PM
And Rosicky wasn't a talent when he was Jack's age? Or Pod wasn't touted as a dangerous German talent when younger? As said, they are all technically gifted players and all have talent. After that it gets done to the 'demonstrated' part you mentioned and that boils down to performance on the pitch. I don't know how you can put those three below Jack on Ox when neither can hit a pass or shot as well as these guys or turn a game around like they can. It's too much hype and they've yet to prove it.
What bearing does Podolski being touted as a dangerous German talent when he was younger have on our club right now? We're having two different discussions here, or else you just aren't reading anything I type.
Xhaka Can’t
08-04-2013, 09:02 PM
you just aren't reading anything I type.
Tbf, none of us do.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 09:28 PM
What bearing does Podolski being touted as a dangerous German talent when he was younger have on our club right now? We're having two different discussions here, or else you just aren't reading anything I type.
It's linked to what I said about Joe Cole earlier and talent in general. You can see raw talent in players from an early age but you can't assume they will go on to greater things when so young. When Pod was younger, he was expected to go on to achieve great things, similar to the way people are already holding up Jack. It was the same for Rosicky. It's warning for those writing Jack's history even though he's hardly played.
Özil's Panoramic View
08-04-2013, 09:46 PM
Jack isn't so young, is he? I think we are past that lamp post where we're 2nd guessing if he's just raw talent and if he'll come good.
The boy can play, and will come better than every other player in our team currently, providing he doesn't turn into a crock. The names that are being brought up are all at least 6 or more years older than him and have basically all plateaued at a level below what can be described as world class.
Niall_Quinn
08-04-2013, 09:55 PM
It's linked to what I said about Joe Cole earlier and talent in general. You can see raw talent in players from an early age but you can't assume they will go on to greater things when so young. When Pod was younger, he was expected to go on to achieve great things, similar to the way people are already holding up Jack. It was the same for Rosicky. It's warning for those writing Jack's history even though he's hardly played.
Okay, fine, but I'm not guaranteeing he'll go on and do anything. What I'm saying is Wilshere and Ox would be the two players I'd hang on to above all others. Both are gifted, both already playing at a high level and both with bags of raw talent and potential. Jack's a born leader too. Good players with plenty of years ahead of them (barring injury). Good ingredients for any team. Keep Pods and Cazorla next and stick a gun in Kroenke's face and tell him to hand over the cash then go and build out the team. Play with a bit of style, win something.
Or sell Jack and Ox for big bucks and sign Titus Bramble.
Power n Glory
08-04-2013, 10:09 PM
Jack isn't so young, is he? I think we are past that lamp post where we're 2nd guessing if he's just raw talent and if he'll come good.
The boy can play, and will come better than every other player in our team currently, providing he doesn't turn into a crock. The names that are being brought up are all at least 6 or more years older than him and have basically all plateaued at a level below what can be described as world class.
And I'm saying we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves because that could also happen to Jack. You get players that sometimes just fall off the radar after loads of promise. I already mentioned Joe Cole, Nasri looks close to that, Anelka, Reyes (I had serious high hopes for him).....we have to wait and see.
Joe Cole! He had raw talent and was hyped in much the same way Jack is now. Lord knows what happened to Cole but he was an exceptional technical player and most had high hopes for him but it just didn't pan out for him.
Raw talent isn't enough sometimes and Jack still has a lot to learn. This hasn't been Jack's Arsenal defining season and I hate the way the papers are trying to set it up that way. We lack world class talent, every player has been hit and miss, but it's been a group effort with streaks of good form from Cazorla, Theo, Pod, Kos, Merts, Giroud even Gervinho.
cole was in a very similar position to wilshere right now, although more so for the national team than expected to perform at club level.
mourinho ruined cole. joe was so desperate to prove he was more than a few tricks and flicks he lost all of that for the sake of team ethic and became a workhorse. for different reasons, jack could fall danger to the same thing. what has stood out more than anything else about this season is his work ethic and desire to give his all for the team, more than the eye for a final ball or finished product. there is plenty of time to ensure all of that ability isn't lost but if we keep treading water as a club as we currently are and being so overdependent on the boy, then he could become just an excellent workhorse, which would be a crying shame.
I never thought Cole was all that and whilst I think Wilshere is good I also think he's currently one of the most overrated players around......he's nowhere near as good as some people seem to think, he's young and has time but to date has done little on the pitch.
Don't get me wrong, I think he has talent and I'm happy we have him, it's just that some people seem to think he's the English Messi, he's done nothing to suggest that.
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