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gunnerrrrr
16-08-2011, 09:06 PM
I am not going to be too harsh on the guy and maybe this thread is indicative of the times...but why is he playing like Denilson when he has the ability to play like Cesc?

It was literally all game long back pass, back pass, side pass, side pass, what the fcuk are they teaching these talents.

Cripps_orig
16-08-2011, 09:08 PM
Hes average at best and his injury like with Eduardo made fans think hes awesome.

Aaron Wilshere
16-08-2011, 09:10 PM
Sorry, but I disagree.

Not at his best, but his great run and cross set up Theo and he played a lovely through ball for Theo which he put wide.

He also showed he has a great engine and good about the pitch - admittedly not at his best, but was part of a rubbish midfield unit today.

Still, he isn't the answer to replace Cesc yet.

Niall_Quinn
16-08-2011, 09:12 PM
Got to admit, watching him play made me think Denilson was back. It must be hard on him. He comes to Arsenal thinking he'll be worked slowly into a trophy winning team, then he gets wiped out by a Neanderthal and Wenger sells all the players around him. Still he has a chance to step up and if he does we can sell him. If not, we'll keep him.

Syn
16-08-2011, 09:12 PM
Average game but ended with an assist? Are you sure he didn't play like Cesc?

He'll be alright. Has a decent engine on him. I don't think Wilshere-Ramsey will get over-run by many CM pairings. Need a massive season from Song - he is the most crucial player for us at the moment (along with Vermaelen). Song has to grow up and act as experienced quality; no giving away of the silly free-kicks and racking up of suspensions that we're used to and Wilshere and Ramsey will both have a better chance of making it.

Aaron Wilshere
16-08-2011, 09:14 PM
Average game but ended with an assist? Are you sure he didn't play like Cesc?

He'll be alright. Has a decent engine on him. I don't think Wilshere-Ramsey will get over-run by many CM pairings. Need a massive season from Song - he is the most crucial player for us at the moment (along with Vermaelen). Song has to grow up and act as experienced quality; no giving away of the silly free-kicks and racking up of suspensions that we're used to.

Song seems to be a bit of an Eboue in his attitude - in smaller game especially he doesn't seem to give a shit. Frustrating, because when he concentrates like the win vs Utd last season when he marked Rooney out of the game, he can be so efficient.

He does need to step up.

Joker
16-08-2011, 09:15 PM
He does need to provide better defensive cover, and cut out the hospital passes, but I though he improved as the second half wore on. He's got good stamina, which he showed by leading a few of the counter attacks near the end of the game. He set up Theo for the goal, and almost had another assist when he played in Walcott at the end of the game, only for the keeper to make a save.
Sometimes he seems to lack a bit of pace, and a few times struggled to catch up with a midfielder breaking away, but on the whole he was one of our better players IMO.

Aaron Wilshere
16-08-2011, 09:16 PM
Most midfielders look slow on the turn. Ramsey was sprinting away from a number of their players when he had the ball.

Kano
16-08-2011, 09:16 PM
not ready for regular first team starts, will be a good squad player this year and we all saw his development back before his injury.

Olivier's xmas twist
16-08-2011, 09:30 PM
Thought he played ok tbh, i think in a few more games and once he he can form his midfield partnership with Jack and who ever comes in if they do, he'll look ok tbh.

Marc Overmars
16-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Nice cross for Theo's goal. Also a great through ball which might have given him another assist but Theo fucked it up.

Average game in general but still played his part in the very few tangible moments of successful play we had in the match.

Probably won't stand up to the rigours of the Prem if asked to play every week though.

Fist of Lehmann
16-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Ramsey doesn't play like Fabregas, the gap in class aside, Fabregas attempts more forward passes, looking for the killer ball.
Ramsey plays deeper and tends to shuttle the ball to the flanks.

The comparisons with Denilson here are not so far-fetched, but where the Brazilian's metronomic ball-retention passing (or 'sideways' as it's sometimes referred to) has a generally high completion rate, Ramsey has shown some carelessness in his play.

Tonight highlighted how vulnerable we looked on the transition because possession conceded by deep-lying CM's almost always has the opposition running directly at your back 4.

The upshot of including Ramsey is an attack more shifted to wide areas instead of endless 1-2's through the middle. If paired with Wilshere, who is more willing to go past someone and/or attempt a killer ball we have a more varied attack, and thereby hopefully a more effective one. I say hopefully because the quality of the players will ultimately always be the deciding factor.

Without Fabregas we have looked like we lack presence in midfield. With him as the creative fulcrum players looked to make runs as he got possession. We need to adapt. But to me a midfield of Rocky-Rambo-Song is not a great blend of types, either offensively or defensively.

selassie
16-08-2011, 10:56 PM
I like him as a player but he's not ready yet if played alongside our current personnel. Midfield needs a leader/experience, if Ramsey is paired with Jack & Song this season as first choice it will kill his development.

AKBapologist
16-08-2011, 11:01 PM
I think it's hard to draw conclusions from tonight. Udinese force teams to play through the wings given their formation. If he didn't get much joy in the center today it could just be because of the nature of the game and tactics provided.

Not that he's a cesc replica, he offers a lot more to us than the early cesc did, but in some spots today his lack of concentration with poor passes at times could have cost us.

Boss
16-08-2011, 11:11 PM
Will be a top player but not yet ready to be a first teamer.

He will cost us games as he develops.

Master Splinter
17-08-2011, 03:42 AM
Even though he went on loan last season, he still hasn't had a run of games to get back into the rigours of top-level football.

He has to cut the suicidal passes out, but then Song and Fabregas are famed for these too and are much more experienced.

He was as good as Wilshere was last season before some ugly slack-jawed yokel mong cunt scythed him down.

I genuinely think he'll be brilliant when he gets his rhythm back. Hopefully it doesn't take too long.

fakeyank
17-08-2011, 03:50 AM
I think he'll be good but drops back too often because Song roams around like a headless chicken. AW needs to tell Song to cover the defense and not be all over the place. I think a midfield of JW-Ramsey-Parker would be awesome but Arsene's obviously not going to sign a good player like Parker coz he is 30! :doh:

gunsofashburtongrove
17-08-2011, 05:43 AM
He did make a few careless passes which put our defense in trouble. But i think he will come around. Denilson's big issue was losing focus and not tracking back at times when required to and being poor at one on one situations. Ramsey is not afflicted with the same ailment. He plays deeper than Cesc used to, allowing him to fall back when defending. What it does provides is dynamism and mobility to the midfield. Song for instance played in a very advanced position for most parts. Creativity is going to suffer though and tellingly so against teams who are defensively well organised. Think the accent has changed from creative midfield play to direct wing play. Lets wait and see

Tony Tuesdays
17-08-2011, 07:18 AM
I think it's all to do with his mentality. He needs to be more forceful, show more confidence in his ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck, dictate affairs.
We've seen how Jack simply imposes himself on the game by force of will, because he knows he's at least the equal if not better than those on the field.
That's the kind of mentality Rambo needs to adopt.

gunnerrrrr
20-08-2011, 02:23 PM
Dreadful today.

Marc Overmars
20-08-2011, 02:24 PM
That's putting it lightly.

One of the worst individual performances I've seen in recent memory.

Up there with Eboue vs Wigan.

I've seen enough that suggests he can be a good player for us but throwing him in at the deep end when the club is in a period of turmoil is not going to help his development.

Boss
20-08-2011, 02:25 PM
Will be a top player but not yet ready to be a first teamer.

He will cost us games as he develops.

This statement is ready to be C&P'd in threads for Frimpong, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Miquel, Gibbs, Traore, Bartley and so on.

Olivier's xmas twist
20-08-2011, 02:27 PM
This statement is ready to be C&P'd in threads for Frimpong, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Miquel, Gibbs, Traore, Bartley and so on.

Put it in the Wenger thread too

Fats
20-08-2011, 07:51 PM
felt sorry for him today he looked awful. Blind passes, poor quality passes.

shame

Joker
20-08-2011, 08:30 PM
We desperately need Wilshere to come back from injury, and that just shows the pathetic mismanagement of this squad by Wenger that we're relying on an 18 year old to lead our midfield.

Özim
21-08-2011, 09:37 AM
Hard to tell what's going on with this guy, if we're honest before he got injured we only saw one or two half performances from him, he was quite a way from the first team.

Now he's come back after a horror injury, it's hard to tell whether the injury has affected him, he lacks confidence, or he just at the level he was before but we never really saw it as he hardly featured.

milla
21-08-2011, 10:22 AM
Hard to tell what's going on with this guy, if we're honest before he got injured we only saw one or two half performances from him, he was quite a way from the first team.

Now he's come back after a horror injury, it's hard to tell whether the injury has affected him, he lacks confidence, or he just at the level he was before but we never really saw it as he hardly featured.

Ramsey is at the level where he was before the the injury. But now he is a regular starter, his shitness becoming really visible (talking about overrating British product). Right now he is a good squad player, but the manager shouldnt throw him into deep end of big PL games. It'll do more harm than good (similar to Walcott). Unlike Wheelchair or Frimpong, Ramsey is a soft GHEL, the manager has to treat them differently. :coffee:

LDG
06-09-2013, 10:44 AM
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/ramsey-is-arsenal-player-of-the-month

Herbert Chapmans Cumstain :pal:

Gooner23
06-09-2013, 10:48 AM
Well deserved as well, he's been brilliant so far this season. Long may it continue!

Xhaka Can’t
06-09-2013, 10:52 AM
He has impressed so far this season. It is clear that he is working hard on his game.

Niall_Quinn
06-09-2013, 10:58 AM
He's been a lot better in the last few months, prior to that he was a bit of a disaster zone. I hope this doesn't get ridiculous and put a new kind of pressure on the kid. But I suppose that's the nature of the game. He's a solid player with a great attitude and a willingness to work for his money. He's rare then and an asset.

Syn
06-09-2013, 11:15 AM
Never deserved the amount of stick he got imo, but it has only made it more impressive that he has fought back so well. An absolutely incredible engine. If he doesn't win many more player of the month awards it probably means we're doing very well.

Cripps_orig
06-09-2013, 11:18 AM
Was a bit shit before and after his injury.

Has picked up though.

Career starts now

Fist of Lehmann
06-09-2013, 02:49 PM
Yeah, it wasn't an illusion. This time last year he looked arthritically slow and led the team in combined turnovers and dispossessions.

That shit always looks bad.

But he improved over the course of that season, and really hit the ground this year in preseason. He's finally starting to look the part.

Well done to him. Last year donkey-pubber, this year Player of the Month, next year shitting on Xavi.

Rameses II :bow:

Grebbo
09-09-2013, 12:08 AM
Bellamy on Ramsey


On the form of Arsenal midfielder Aaron Ramsey
It’s the best I’ve seen him. I’ve taken more of an interest in him than any other Wales player because his father is from the same area of Cardiff as I am. I knew him coming up as a kid.
When something like that injury happens to you, you have a lot to deal with.
He’s had a couple of personal issues going on that people don’t know about and also you don’t really know what goes on in a young footballer’s mind.
But what he has been through, the injuries and everything else has helped him to become the player he is.
There isn’t a person out there in football who didn’t expect that kind of performance from him at the moment. He has been capable of it. We are now seeing it.

Wonder what these other issues are?

:coffee:

Globalgunner
09-09-2013, 04:46 AM
Cant shoot for shit, can't tackle, gives the ball away constantly, can't run, can't track back. Other than that, great player

JonasTC
09-09-2013, 05:01 AM
Can shoot, can tackle, doesnt give the ball away constantly, can run, can track back. Great player

Fixed it for you.

Globalgunner
09-09-2013, 07:22 AM
Fixed it for you.

I guess you're his mum.

Zerlathon
09-09-2013, 09:19 AM
I guess you're his mum.

How so, you are one of a very few people who hasn't noticed the very noticeable difference in Ramsey's game this Season.

This time last year I would be agreeing with you, but Ramsey has come a long way since then and has surprised a lot of people with his efforts (and for that I commend him).

Letters
09-09-2013, 09:31 AM
I guess I'm a wum.
Fixed it for you.

Niall_Quinn
09-09-2013, 09:43 AM
He’s had a couple of personal issues going on that people don’t know about

Thanks Craig, if Ramsey wanted to keep that quiet then you've done him a big favour here.

LDG
09-09-2013, 09:47 AM
Thanks Craig, if Ramsey wanted to keep that quiet then you've done him a big favour here.

I know rite! :lol:

I feel sorry for Rambo. Every time he plays for Wales, one of his compatriots mouths off to the press about him.

Was it Coleman who, in light of the Shawcross / Ramsey thing, decided it would be best to air the whole thing in public.

:doh:

Niall_Quinn
09-09-2013, 09:51 AM
I know rite! :lol:

I feel sorry for Rambo. Every time he plays for Wales, one of his compatriots mouths off to the press about him.

Was it Coleman who, in light of the Shawcross / Ramsey thing, decided it would be best to air the whole thing in public.

:doh:

Yeah, Coleman renowned man manager who also thought it best to humiliate Ramsey over the captaincy. Good bloke, knows how to motivate his players (when he remembers his ticket so he can actually make it to the game).

GP
09-09-2013, 10:09 AM
Coleman is a bumder

Japan Shaking All Over
09-09-2013, 11:38 AM
Fixed it for you.

:clap:

Ramsey has shown he has orethan what we saw last year and props to him for that. He is one that is bound to benefit from Wenger not over stocking the squad ( a couple more though would have been handy)

Globalgunner
09-09-2013, 12:48 PM
How so, you are one of a very few people who hasn't noticed the very noticeable difference in Ramsey's game this Season.

This time last year I would be agreeing with you, but Ramsey has come a long way since then and has surprised a lot of people with his efforts (and for that I commend him).

3 games into the season in which we lost the first game in humiliating fashion and won the others well and thus we have conclusive evidence that Ramsey is now as good as it gets and all the problems with this team and manager are now fixed. When Ramsey learns to shoot better than Stevie Wonder plays darts and stops escorting Agbonlahor et al, into our box instead of tackling him out like any midfielder worth his salt would do. If he can have a good game against Chelsea, Utd, City or even Pool Them I will join the chorus. All I see is an average player doing ok against average teams.

Nayan
09-09-2013, 12:55 PM
doing well on average vs average teams is an important part of challenging for the league.

Letters
09-09-2013, 01:13 PM
3 games into the season in which we lost the first game in humiliating fashion and won the others well and thus we have conclusive evidence that Ramsey is now as good as it gets and all the problems with this team and manager are now fixed.
3 games into a season doesn't give us conclusive evidence of anything.
All we can say for now is that he's starting to look a lot better and hope that it continues.

Syn
09-09-2013, 01:26 PM
3 games into a season doesn't give us conclusive evidence of anything.
All we can say for now is that he's starting to look a lot better and hope that it continues.

It's horseshit that he has only just started to play well. Ever since he was settled in a deeper role from the second half of last season, he has been one of our best performers. There's not much ambiguity about what he does. As long as he's away from a no.10 role and playing box-to-box, he can outrun pretty much anyone over 90 mins.

Marc Overmars
09-09-2013, 01:28 PM
He used to play shit and I didn't rate him, but now he's improved I don't want to acknowledge it because it's more important for me to be right so I can save face on the Internet.

LDG
09-09-2013, 01:32 PM
He used to play shit and I didn't rate him, but now he's improved I don't want to acknowledge it because it's more important for me to be right so I can save face on the Internet.

Strikes me that you're a bit shallow.

Nayan
09-09-2013, 01:59 PM
so far this sounds a lot like the flamini story. minus the spell at LB

Dein-machine
10-09-2013, 11:05 AM
Since returning from injury he's had the same upper body strength as my Nan - so far this year I reckon he's now stronger than her, then again she died in July.

Fist of Lehmann
10-09-2013, 11:11 AM
Funnily enough:


The stats bear it out: last season, Ramsey attempted a tackle every 30 minutes, at an exceptional success rate of 89%. This season, he’s already the league’s best midfield tackler, winning 12/13 of his duels (a success rate of 92%).

(Attributed arseblog)

Xhaka Can’t
10-09-2013, 11:13 AM
I've been critical of Ramsey but have no problem at all with his performances this season. He's been doing well.

Dein-machine
10-09-2013, 02:43 PM
He's been better this year but Santi, Wheelchair & Ozzy surely must play in a central midfield 3 ( Santi is wasted in wide position ) - probably with Lukas & Theo either side when all fit. Only room on the bench for him.

Globalgunner
10-09-2013, 02:54 PM
Funnily enough:



(Attributed arseblog)

A tackle every 30 minutes, that means 3 a game. No wonder we say he is crap and just allows the opposition, free range in midfield. Now that Flamster is back he should sit on the bench, watch and learn. Then again being crap doesn't mean you get dropped by the Prof. Alumina was in our goal for 4 seasons. Let's wait and see how great Ramsey has been at the end of the season not at the middle of September.

AKBs, I hear the new mantra is that Ozil is a trophy , we don't need 4th place anymore.

Syn
10-09-2013, 03:11 PM
He's been better this year but Santi, Wheelchair & Ozzy surely must play in a central midfield 3 ( Santi is wasted in wide position ) - probably with Lukas & Theo either side when all fit. Only room on the bench for him.

Thats a recipe for disaster. Need some defensive nous in midfield. Having Arteta there led us to having the 2nd best defensive record in the league last season. Flamini is now crucial, as is Ramsey. It's Arteta versus Flamini for one position, Wilshere versus Ramsey for one position and Cazorla on the left.

Dein-machine
10-09-2013, 03:25 PM
I think Koscelny & Metersacker were a bigger influence on our defensive record in 2nd part of the season rather than Arteta. He is too slow, gives away more free kicks from tacking than he does winning the ball - cannot play a Mascerano/Makelele role. He is a modern day Ray Wilkins, more than happy playing 100 passes per game that get us nowhere.
Attack is the best form of defense - give Jack the role to hold off when Santi & Ozil attack - awesome. Having to play with defensive midfielders purely shows you have a shit defence.

Xhaka Can’t
10-09-2013, 03:27 PM
A tackle every 30 minutes, that means 3 a game. No wonder we say he is crap and just allows the opposition, free range in midfield. Now that Flamster is back he should sit on the bench, watch and learn. Then again being crap doesn't mean you get dropped by the Prof. Alumina was in our goal for 4 seasons. Let's wait and see how great Ramsey has been at the end of the season not at the middle of September.

AKBs, I hear the new mantra is that Ozil is a trophy , we don't need 4th place anymore.

A post that reads like a poke in the eye.

And I don't know where you've heard that mantra coz it is news to me.

Marc Overmars
10-09-2013, 03:50 PM
Thats a recipe for disaster. Need some defensive nous in midfield. Having Arteta there led us to having the 2nd best defensive record in the league last season. Flamini is now crucial, as is Ramsey. It's Arteta versus Flamini for one position, Wilshere versus Ramsey for one position and Cazorla on the left.

Agree with that. Özil goes straight in to be accommodated in his best position, then the rest slot in around him. Our front 3 of Theo-Bif-Cazorla picks itself.

Master Splinter
10-09-2013, 04:03 PM
Ramsey is the first name on the team sheet at the moment. Not only is he playing better than Wilshere, Jack himself hasn't played well enough recently to be a starter over any of our other midfield players. It's a good situation to be in when Wilshere is currently your worst central midfielder though.

Arteta and Ramsey were definitely the reason we had an excellent defensive record toward the end of last season. We've had good individual defenders over the years, but since Vieira/Gilberto left, we've not had players in front of them hard-working enough to improve the solidity of the team. The football wasn't pretty, but the whole team working harder and Arteta and Ramsey playing so deep meant, for once, defence was our strongest component.

Also, I'm an AKB and Ozil is my trophy.

Fist of Lehmann
10-09-2013, 05:39 PM
A tackle every 30 minutes, that means 3 a game. No wonder we say he is crap and just allows the opposition, free range in midfield.

Dunno, doesn't seem so bad when you compare it the rest of the top 4.

Especially when you consider he wasn't the main DM last season.

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/stats_mid5.png

Penguin
11-09-2013, 08:17 AM
Ramsey is the first name on the team sheet at the moment. Not only is he playing better than Wilshere, Jack himself hasn't played well enough recently to be a starter over any of our other midfield players. It's a good situation to be in when Wilshere is currently your worst central midfielder though.

Arteta and Ramsey were definitely the reason we had an excellent defensive record toward the end of last season. We've had good individual defenders over the years, but since Vieira/Gilberto left, we've not had players in front of them hard-working enough to improve the solidity of the team. The football wasn't pretty, but the whole team working harder and Arteta and Ramsey playing so deep meant, for once, defence was our strongest component.

Also, I'm an AKB and Ozil is my trophy.

Wilshere was terrible against Ukraine last night. Constantly losing the ball, going on his pointless runs and tripping over himself and even worse he looked like he didn't want the ball. Instead of making himself available for the return pass he ran off somewhere nobody could pass to him :unsure:. A spell on the bench might be good for him, and Ramsey has more than earned a spot in the team with his start to the season.

Maybe go for Flamini-Ramsey with Jack on the bench against sunderland.

Fist of Lehmann
11-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Also, I'm an AKB and Ozil is my trophy.

Ožil and 4th Place double. :trophy:

It's on!

Niall_Quinn
11-09-2013, 10:48 AM
Dunno, doesn't seem so bad when you compare it the rest of the top 4.

Especially when you consider he wasn't the main DM last season.

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/stats_mid5.png

Scholes, 39 mins per foul :bow:

Penguin
11-09-2013, 11:21 AM
:lol:

Özim
11-09-2013, 11:39 AM
Thought he was pretty good in the early days, love his pirouhette goal...then he got injured and became sh*t for a while. Seems to be back putting in good performances, long may it last, could he be worth 86 million in 3 years time?

selassie
15-09-2013, 01:43 PM
Ramsey is turning into a beast! He is playing at a very high level at the moment & is developing into a complete midfielder! Lets hope he keeps it up.

McNamara That Ghost...
15-09-2013, 03:07 PM
He's such a threat late on in games because his physical seems not to drop at all.

LDG
15-09-2013, 03:09 PM
Just waiting for the old boys on MOTD to compare him to Lampard.

Dr Singh
16-09-2013, 08:23 AM
Aaron Ramsey will make it big. There aren't too many players who have been what he's been through at such a young age, and he's just responded like a champion.

As you're all aware, he had a career ending injury, got stripped of the Welsh captaincy and then got booed by his own fans.

His response to this was purely on the pitch. Not once did he speak out, complain or expect any sympathy. Through sheer hard work, gritted teeth and determination, he's forced himself close to being the first name on the team sheet.

Here's to hoping he'll be one half of our double pivot for a decade. There won't be many better.

Nayan
17-09-2013, 08:46 PM
Just waiting for the old boys on MOTD to compare him to Lampard.

I've always thought of him as more in the robson or gerrard mould, minus the alcoholism in one case or or cheating diving cringe-inducing douchebaggery in the other

mastermind84
18-09-2013, 01:36 AM
I've always thought of him as more in the robson or gerrard mould, minus the alcoholism in one case or or cheating diving cringe-inducing douchebaggery in the other

Ramsey is looking like a smarter footballer than Gerrard as well.

hobson's choice
18-09-2013, 04:31 AM
Having a good season so far with the goals, but still has some things to work on.

Dr Singh
18-09-2013, 09:11 PM
He's making a mockery of my early prediction of 10-15 goals by the end of the season at any rate.

Not bad for a deep lying midfield general.

Marc Overmars
18-09-2013, 09:13 PM
I'd say he's more box to box than deep lying tbf.

Penguin
18-09-2013, 09:14 PM
Just waiting for the old boys on MOTD to compare him to Lampard.

http://puu.sh/4uBNJ.jpg
:lol:

Munchies
18-09-2013, 09:15 PM
Cripps :bow:

Poor guy has resorted to twitter :rose:

GW Mods :ilt:

LDG
18-09-2013, 09:18 PM
http://puu.sh/4uBNJ.jpg
:lol:

Fuck.

I knew it was coming.

I just didn't expect it straight away.

Fucking twats :lol:

GP
18-09-2013, 09:20 PM
Better than Bale.

Honestly.

milla
18-09-2013, 09:22 PM
Cripps :bow:

Poor guy has resorted to twitter :rose:

GW Mods :ilt:

Did he get himself banned again? :coffee:

Boss
18-09-2013, 09:23 PM
Welsh Frank Lampard tbh. Justified.

Rambo :bow: :bow:

Dr Singh
18-09-2013, 09:24 PM
He's on his way to becoming the Welsh Bastian Schweinsteiger.

Don't under-sell him.

Ollie the Optimist
18-09-2013, 09:25 PM
remember being laughed at when i said he would be in the PFA team of the year by end of season. ok its early, but he can keep this form going. hes fought back from having his leg snapped in half superbly. its a joy to watch him right now.

LDG
18-09-2013, 09:25 PM
can't believe he doesn't have an England cap yet :sulk:

fakeyank
18-09-2013, 09:27 PM
Did he get himself banned again? :coffee:

Cripps is banned?! Why?!?!

milla
18-09-2013, 09:30 PM
Cripps is banned?! Why?!?!

He french kissed Gary. :coffee:

Master Splinter
18-09-2013, 09:35 PM
Lampard is a great goal scorer but it's generous to call him a midfielder.

Now Aaron Ramsey, he's a rather excellent midfielder.

LDG
18-09-2013, 09:40 PM
If Lampard played pool, he'd be the cunt who just sent the white into the pack, and watched three or four balls go in....that final one, limping towards the furthermost pocket before dropping in.

The guy is a hit and hope merchant.

Ramsey clears up, ruthless. Lampard looks on, regretting dropping his burger down his waistcoat.

Dr Singh
18-09-2013, 09:41 PM
It's hardly been hard for Lampard to score loads given that he use to have Makalele and Essien behind him, or more recently Mikel and Ramires.

Ollie the Optimist
18-09-2013, 09:42 PM
Ramsey has had 7 shots on target in all competitions this season. scored 6 goals.

LDG
18-09-2013, 09:47 PM
He's overshadowing Özil Gummidge at the moment.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
18-09-2013, 09:52 PM
Cripps :bow:

Poor guy has resorted to twitter :rose:

GW Mods :ilt:

:lol: What's his twitter? Poor sod

EDIT: oh I get it :haha:

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
18-09-2013, 09:54 PM
Cripps is banned?! Why?!?!

He fisted Gary. :coffee:

Syn
18-09-2013, 09:55 PM
He didn't play particularly well today but his highlight of the match was a bloody marvellous ball that put Walcott in on goal in the first few minutes. Should've got a penalty for that. I'm enjoying his goalscoring run while it lasts - same with Giroud. Still not sure he's a good finisher but he's willing to play the percentages and his energy means he's much more likely to be on the end of things. His all-round game is more encouraging. First name on the teamsheet these days.

Xhaka Can’t
18-09-2013, 10:13 PM
He didn't play particularly well today but his highlight of the match was a bloody marvellous ball that put Walcott in on goal in the first few minutes. Should've got a penalty for that. I'm enjoying his goalscoring run while it lasts - same with Giroud. Still not sure he's a good finisher but he's willing to play the percentages and his energy means he's much more likely to be on the end of things. His all-round game is more encouraging. First name on the teamsheet these days.
That's why they called him Aaron.

bunsco
18-09-2013, 10:16 PM
Man. One minute he's the worse player in the squad who was championship quality at best, now he's mentioned in the same breath as lampard and Gerrard.
Many on here wanted him gone, but are now singing his praises.
Big props for those on here that supported him through the bad times totally convinced he'd come good.
I can't claim to be one of them - but at the same time didn't consign him to bin either.
Let's hope this good form cements his belief in his ability to become a top quality player for us for years to come:-)

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
18-09-2013, 10:47 PM
I was just going to say myself, he has some way to go before he achieves what Lampard has.

Whether by hook or crook Lampard has scored 20 goals in the league a hand full of times which is not easy. If it was, lots of midfielder's would have done it, but few actually have. I am far from Lampard's biggest fan either.

I never really had him down as a regular midfield goal scorer so it feels a real treat that everything he hits is going in. In his favour, midfielder's don't often have a run of games with several goals as merely a purple patch and then fail to score ever again. It certainly is not fluke but then again neither is Lampard's 200 odd goals for those blue losers. Strikers have small goal scoring runs that halt, never or seldom to be seen again, but it rarely happens with central midfielders.

Nayan
19-09-2013, 05:16 AM
He fisted Gary. :coffee:

Monday night football. Porn edition

Marc Overmars
19-09-2013, 07:22 AM
He's nowhere near Lampard (yet) but I do think he provides us with the same qualities.

Developed in to a cracking player, hope he keeps it going.

Power n Glory
19-09-2013, 08:14 AM
Cripps is banned?! Why?!?!

Cripps and NQ are banned!

What the heck happened?

Özil's Panoramic View
19-09-2013, 08:18 AM
Cripps and NQ are banned!

What the heck happened?

Maybe the mods prefer we baptize the new signings with a bit of 'positive' wumming.

I reckon they'll be back soon enough, though.

milla
19-09-2013, 08:30 AM
Maybe the mods prefer we baptize the new signings with a bit of 'positive' wumming.

I reckon they'll be back soon enough, though.

Who give a feck, we got Dr Singh :good:

Munchies
19-09-2013, 09:58 AM
Who give a feck, we got Dr Singh :good:

:haha:

--
There's a quote going round now of WUMger saying last year 'Once Ramsey starts scoring, he wont stop'

Wumger :bow:
Ramsey :bow:

The Emirates Gallactico
19-09-2013, 10:22 AM
Anyone seen H_C_Z around lately? He seems to have oddly gone missing.

LDG
19-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Anyone seen H_C_Z around lately? He seems to have oddly gone missing.

It seems logical to me that Humbert_Chimpanzees_Xylophone would be first in Aaron Ramseys scoring killzone.

Ramsby :bow:

Munchies
19-09-2013, 10:32 AM
What was his other nickname ? Can't remember it, but the H stood for Hunter in it :unsure:

The Emirates Gallactico
19-09-2013, 04:45 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150

Oh what have you done Rambo :(

Marc Overmars
19-09-2013, 05:00 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150

Oh what have you done Rambo :(

Ken Norton as well.

He's doing it in pairs now to make up for the ones he hasn't killed during his scoring run.

Munchies
19-09-2013, 05:14 PM
He even killed Anelka's agent , but the Nintendo guy, why Rambo? :(

GP
20-09-2013, 09:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzI7ySeZ8PE

mastermind84
22-09-2013, 02:00 AM
He's nowhere near Lampard (yet) but I do think he provides us with the same qualities.

he has more of an engine than Lampard and helps more defensively.

He reminds me of Arturo Vidal at Juve. But Ramsey is a more creative passer.

Master Splinter
28-09-2013, 06:55 PM
:bow:

He's like Cisc, but quicker, stronger and with better defensive attributes.

Little bit beast tbf.

Marc Overmars
28-09-2013, 06:56 PM
His energy levels just don't seem to drop.

What a freak.

milla
28-09-2013, 07:01 PM
:bow:

He's like Cisc, but quicker, stronger and with better defensive attributes.

Litle bit beast tbf.

I am glad he doesn't have Barca DNA. :coffee:

Harland
28-09-2013, 07:35 PM
:bow:

He's like Cisc, but quicker, stronger and with better defensive attributes.

Litle bit beast tbf.

Little bit? He's super saiyan beast

Dein-machine
28-09-2013, 07:46 PM
I am glad he doesn't have Barca DNA. :coffee:

its wonderful that he has Cardiff DNA - no fucker is ever wanna go back there

The Emirates Gallactico
28-09-2013, 07:49 PM
He must be a shoe in for PL player of the month.

Wenger to for the manager award.


Can't wait for Wenger to tell Real to piss of when they launch a 50 million bid this summer. :coffee:

Dein-machine
28-09-2013, 07:55 PM
He must be a shoe in for PL player of the month.

Wenger to for the manager award.


Can't wait for Wenger to tell Real to piss of when they launch a 50 million bid this summer. :coffee:

Lets hope he doesnt get too good or else we will sell him

milla
28-09-2013, 07:56 PM
its wonderful that he has Cardiff DNA - no fucker is ever wanna go back there

:haha:

milla
28-09-2013, 07:57 PM
He must be a shoe in for PL player of the month.

Wenger to for the manager award.


Can't wait for Wenger to tell Real to piss of when they launch a 50 million bid this summer. :coffee:

At least £90 million IMO :coffee:

Syn
28-09-2013, 08:09 PM
Optajoe:


33 - @aaronramsey has made more tackles than any other player in the 2013-14 Premier League. Combative

Marc Overmars
28-09-2013, 08:10 PM
Welsh Vieira.

Master Splinter
28-09-2013, 09:22 PM
The White Bryan Robson.

Dein-machine
28-09-2013, 09:25 PM
sober Bryan Robson

LDG
28-09-2013, 09:25 PM
Everything that Shawcross isn't.

Syn
28-09-2013, 09:27 PM
I still don't rate him as a particularly good finisher (today's was probably the nicest/most composed finish he has scored in the league, and even then the keeper got a hand on it), but his runs from deep are an integral part of his game. He did the same for Gnabry's goal too. It's impossible to mark him and stop him from getting into those positions.

The communist Frank Lampard.

Master Splinter
28-09-2013, 09:28 PM
The non-fat Andy Reid.

selassie
28-09-2013, 10:04 PM
Ramsey is a beast, great eye for goal now, great engine, fairly quick, strong & technically decent. I love him, he's developing into an absolute gem of a player.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
28-09-2013, 10:51 PM
To infinity and beyond, although if Real want 90 million for him I'll pack his bags and pack him a packed lunch...

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
29-09-2013, 12:09 AM
Rampard :bow:

footloose, the wanderer
29-09-2013, 12:55 AM
Yeah but he is a man ure fan :wacko:


its wonderful that he has Cardiff DNA - no fucker is ever wanna go back there

McNamara That Ghost...
29-09-2013, 08:19 AM
Not when Moyes is done with him he won't be.

Munchies
14-10-2013, 10:47 AM
http://vimeo.com/76820954

The Ogg Monster
15-10-2013, 09:34 AM
^ good point.

Syn
19-10-2013, 08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTiRHDeF2c

JonasTC
19-10-2013, 08:49 PM
After seeing Ramsey today, im quite sure he made a deal with the devil... Nobody can be "shit" one season and then turn into god the season after! :D

For once i think its allowed to say that he's like a new signing :bow:

Master Splinter
19-10-2013, 09:13 PM
Ramsey is currently like five new signings.

A defensive midfielder.

A box-to-box midfielder.

A playmaker.

A striker.

An absolute freak.

Özim
20-10-2013, 12:59 PM
He's been fantastic, showed glimpses of this talent a few years back with that tip-toe dance through the defence goal.

His skills yesterday were sublime, the goal was majestic but he also did the Zidane turn during the match as well.

JonasTC
20-10-2013, 01:26 PM
He's been fantastic, showed glimpses of this talent a few years back with that tip-toe dance through the defence goal.

His skills yesterday were sublime, the goal was majestic but he also did the Zidane turn during the match as well.

Laudrup turn :threaten:

Özim
20-10-2013, 01:38 PM
Laudrup turn :threaten:

I actually never knew it was Laudrup that invented it, always thought it was Zidane!

Penguin
20-10-2013, 01:45 PM
Laudrup invented it
Zidane perfected it

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
20-10-2013, 02:23 PM
After seeing Ramsey today, im quite sure he made a deal with the devil... Nobody can be "shit" one season and then turn into god the season after! :D

For once i think its allowed to say that he's like a new signing :bow:

I paused for a extended period when he did that sequence of skill, the one where he didn't score but ended up passing it.

On that bit of play alone I'm starting to think he has run into the cross roads demon.

GP
20-10-2013, 02:44 PM
Zidane :lol:

Awful Ramsey

McNamara That Ghost...
20-10-2013, 02:47 PM
Laudrup invented it
Zidane perfected it

It was called the Rocastle 360 on one of the early FIFA games.

PGFC
20-10-2013, 08:38 PM
Before the wank-fest gets completely out of control, Felix Dexter died on Friday :rose: he was only 52, damn you Ramsey :angry:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-10-2013, 04:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzI7ySeZ8PE

This video has been wiped off the face of youtube but does anybody remember the song that it was created with by any chance?

GP
25-10-2013, 04:45 PM
It it's like the rest of the football vids it'll be some awful techno nonsense.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-10-2013, 04:53 PM
lol.... Not this time. I had planned to use it for some work and should have made a note of it before it was banned! Doh!.....

Syn
25-10-2013, 08:56 PM
Will be a top player but not yet ready to be a first teamer.

He will cost us games as he develops.

From 2011, TEG with the spot ons of all exactly rights?

GP
25-10-2013, 10:17 PM
Exactly right.

Master Splinter
26-10-2013, 07:38 AM
I genuinely think he'll be brilliant when he gets his rhythm back. Hopefully it doesn't take too long. I think the 2013/14 season is a good bet.

:coffee:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
28-10-2013, 12:57 PM
Has been worryingly sliding back into his old poor behaviour of late, against Dortmund he couldn't keep possession to save his life....it wasn't totally his fault some of the balls into him were pretty poor and he doesn't have the ball control skills of Ozil, Cazorla or Wilshere to cope with that. I am worried that he can be a bit lazy at times with the backwards passing sneaking back into his game, and compounding losing the ball by lunging in late. His passing has this season improved dramatically, i think he needs to improve his play under pressure a bit more (but there are plenty of Arsenal midfielders i could say that about), his assists his link up play with Giroud and his fellow midfielders is still very good and his display of his technical abilities has markedly improved....when it comes to playing the big teams he will need to show that he can still pull it off when time and space aren't as readily available.
I also worry that he will be used to protect the back four in Flamini and Arteta's absence...he simply can't do it....he can tackle and win possession well in the middle of the park but it's a whole different proposition when your asking someone who is more inclined to have attacking instincts to track back constantly.

Dennis Bendtner
03-11-2013, 11:42 AM
Ramsey's energy levels are unbelievable. I was actually worried he'd be off the pace yesterday because of Tuesday's game but far from it. Mo Faramsey. :bow:

It would be better if interviewers had questions other than 'omg y r u scoring so much'. He must get bored.

LDG
03-11-2013, 11:45 AM
Mo Faramsey :lol:

Also, listening to Ramsey is ultra boring. He has Michael Owen disease.

Marc Overmars
03-11-2013, 11:54 AM
Well he's British, so being a boring fucker goes with the territory.

His transformation is little bit mental tbf. I can't ever recall a player going from average joe to super quality in the space of 6-12 months. Even Bale's improvement was a gradual process year after year.

AFC Leveller
03-11-2013, 11:57 AM
Listning to him talk is fucking boring man, gives it the old cliches "taking each game at a time" "working hard at the training ground" etc and his voice can put you to sleep.

But yeah wonderful transformation.

Özim
03-11-2013, 12:05 PM
Well he's British, so being a boring fucker goes with the territory.

His transformation is little bit mental tbf. I can't ever recall a player going from average joe to super quality in the space of 6-12 months. Even Bale's improvement was a gradual process year after year.

They should do a drugs test tbf :run:

Master Splinter
03-11-2013, 03:03 PM
Well he's British, so being a boring fucker goes with the territory.

His transformation is little bit mental tbf. I can't ever recall a player going from average joe to super quality in the space of 6-12 months. Even Bale's improvement was a gradual process year after year.

Adebayor tbh. For a year.

And Nasri for about four months.

Ramsey was really, really good before being maimed though. It's like that bit in any superhero film where the character loses their powers but when they eventually suddenly regain them, shit gets well and truly real.

mastermind84
03-11-2013, 05:08 PM
Ramsey was really, really good before being maimed though. It's like that bit in any superhero film where the character loses their powers but when they eventually suddenly regain them, shit gets well and truly real.

I think a lot of fans forgot how good he looked right before the injury. He was on the brink of being a first team regular. He had a great match at Portsmouth where he got an assist and scored a great goal that during that 09/10 season.

The way you hear fans talk, they make it seem like he showed no talent at all until this season.

Dennis Bendtner
03-11-2013, 05:25 PM
It's highly unlikely that you're not a top level talent if Wenger and Ferguson are both in for you. Pre-injury he was certainly establishing himself and if I remember rightly he had a good run of games before Stoke. Also scored some great goals for the Wales u21s and senior team when he mugged off Darren Fletcher and already had excellent games in the Carling Cup. Whilst it's true he was poor for an extended period, it was very rarely put into proper context for a young player. Wenger also overplayed him for a while when he was clearly knackered (largely out of necessity to be fair). But as mentioned, he was wanted by Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and so on. The improvement has been phenomenal in a short space as MO says but some people forget way too easily.

Master Splinter
03-11-2013, 05:27 PM
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2008/Jun/Ramsey-fee-agreed.aspx

:haha:

Gary Neville :bow:.

GP
03-11-2013, 05:29 PM
:doh:

Nayan
04-11-2013, 02:50 PM
They should do a drugs test tbf :run:

would explain a lot of the stuff you come out with tbh

LDG
06-11-2013, 11:27 PM
:lol:

Just seen that!


But anyways.

He has turned full Rampard now, without the deflections.

Niall_Quinn
09-11-2013, 06:28 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

The Emirates Gallactico
09-11-2013, 06:43 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.
.........

http://i.imgur.com/RG9CYwh.gif


That was simply magnificent.

GP
09-11-2013, 06:46 PM
tl;dr

Munchies
09-11-2013, 06:47 PM
NQ is back ? :bow:

Penguin
10-11-2013, 12:28 AM
http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/3c/300x306px-LL-3caa55d0_RykerClapping.gif

Özil's Panoramic View
10-11-2013, 03:15 AM
N_Q. :bow:

GP
10-11-2013, 11:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CUQG3Ea.gif

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-11-2013, 03:45 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/picard_clapping.gif

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-11-2013, 03:46 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/d785153c63d498d43687d7f7dfcdcda98789ae8d_m.gif

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-11-2013, 03:46 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hogwarts-clap.gif

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-11-2013, 03:47 PM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltiy5wtSru1r5qrimo1_250.gif

selassie
11-11-2013, 09:06 AM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

Welcome back NQ.

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Fist of Lehmann
12-11-2013, 04:13 PM
You realise he called you all 'fucking diseased cunts', right?

Niall_Quinn
12-11-2013, 05:03 PM
You realise he called you all 'fucking diseased cunts', right?

But I clearly said no offence intended!

GP
12-11-2013, 05:05 PM
You realise he called you all 'fucking diseased cunts', right?

:lol: No one actually read it.

Xhaka Can’t
12-11-2013, 07:04 PM
You realise he called you all 'fucking diseased cunts', right?

The truth can be liberating.

mastermind84
13-11-2013, 05:37 AM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.
http://i.minus.com/iBXpcKdoqYQQD.gif

Özim
13-11-2013, 10:28 AM
Ramsey is a lesson for all of us.

About a year back Wenger said in an interview that Ramsey was (LOL) 2% away and once he closed that small gap he'd be formidable. Once he found the composure to go with his potential he'd start scoring. And once he started scoring he wouldn't stop. I can root out the video if you don't believe me.

Everyone laughed - Ramsey FFS.

Of course "everyone" doesn't get to meet the player day in, day out and work with him on the training ground. But this is a small detail in the world of opinions. Facebook and TWIT-ter have made it easy for opinions to proliferate. Now it's easy for me to know when some person I don't know and couldn't give a flying fuck about has just done something trivial. Progress, or at least a staggeringly poor and counterproductive substitute for human progress. Yay (you fucking diseased cunts that are destroying the fabric of humanity - not offence intended). If we can't have world peace and an equitable financial model then at least we have TWIT-ter. I'll pay for the gun and the bullet - you just have to help me out with the deed.

Well I learned my lesson.

I'm an I.T. specialist and I'm fucking good at it if I'm honest (best I ever saw anyway). Which obviously qualifies me to manage and run a football club. There are subtleties in the job I do, difficulties, compromises that have to be made, shit that has to be swallowed. It's a normal job. Luckily football is not like that. What with the billions of quid at stake, there are no grey areas. It' s all black and white - unlike everything else in life.

Which is why we all laughed at Wenger. I.T. Specialists, accountants, council workers, doctors - we knew. The only thing we didn't know (apart from anything about football) was why the blind guy who managed the club was still in charge.

We are all guilty. But only guilty of being fans, I suppose.

Arsenal is the icon we have chosen - the magic formula to add a bit of spark to a go to work, go home, watch the TV while we wait to go to work style of existence. Yes - I know some of you go on holiday once a year. Social climbers are among us.

When our icon is shining we are shining, when it's tarnished we shy away and only accept association in the loosest terms. It's called modern football and Aaron Ramsey has shown us why it is shameful - even though it is normal.

Even Ollie (in the end) supposed that the man who gave us the best football we will ever see in our lives should go. But I think he did that more due to peer pressure than actual belief. Because he rode it all, thick and thin, and kept on batting for the guy who has more desire than the rest of us combined. I wish Ollie hadn't cracked, but we put intolerable pressure on him. Because we knew.

Fortunately Ramsey didn't crack. What a man. Seriously.

He's a lesson in belief and perseverance. I watched that horrific anti-football moment with Shawcross again. Shawcross was innocent in much the same was as my immediate thoughts are innocent whenever I see anything with tits. We forget, Ramsey is just a kid. Imagine what went through his head when his foot was (literally) hanging off. End of career, dreams smashed, hopes dashed, a life of normality zooming in.

But the guy is made of sterner stuff.

He went through the pain, the rehab, the boos (from me and the rest - talk about guilt), the chip-paper media coverage (you guys stink - you really fucking stink and you will always stink because that's just what you are), and he came out the other side and realised what Wenger has always known. It was everything we didn't know but felt qualified to mention nonetheless - and it's okay to mention it, provided we never make the mistake of taking ourselves seriously or pretend we are in a position to judge.

Personally the team has done enough for me already. All I ever wanted was to see commitment to the cause. If they don't win anything - well it wasn't ever really about that for me. I just enjoy it now. Yes - it really is that shallow.

The signing of Eeeeerzil was HUGE. Easily the biggest signing in the history of our club since the last biggest signing in our history, which was the peerless Bergkamp.

This signing informed me, you, the players, everyone else, that there is still a football future at the club. That's enough of a hook to bite onto and it seems to have worked for the team too.

It was a refutation of the idea TPTB were in it only for the money. Well, they are in it only for the money but at least they aren't so focused as to vandalise everything in the process, at least they have shown they have a rough appreciation of what success means in this game. The money comes after the achievement - it can't work the other way around. Finally. Fucking finally.

So anyway, I have done this routine before with Koscienly - what a player. I mean seriously, what a player. Has anyone been watching the expressions on his face during games recently? He seems positively offended at every shot at his goal. Mertesacker, the slow and vulnerable barge. We knew. Turns out he's a fucking genius defender who complements Kos perfectly. Some said it already. Kudos (not that you'll read it because you are banned for having an opinion - way to go, the sad muppets who brought this about. Speak in freedom now - express how wrong you were with the confidence of never being challenged. Remember, choice is not a personal responsibility, it is the removal of inconvenient opposition and castrated free ground to express your - proof is in - incorrect opinion. Oh well done, I fucking mean it, well played!)

And now - this is pretty amazing - we have the best defence in the league. I don't mean statistically (we have that too I think), but in terms of that intangible "they shall not pass" mentality. These guys bust a gut for 95 minutes week in week out. What an incredible transformation.

Steve Bould, right?

And Wenger, because he had to finally relinquish control. And he bowed and the team has benefited. So credit where it's due. There are Hodgeson's out there that wouldn't have been so humble in the service of their club.

But Ramsey still epitomises it for me. I can't recall a more profound transformation. I watch this guy now and it's like having Cesc back but with a bigger engine. Ramsey takes to the pitch knowing he will cover more ground, make more tackles, cover more spaces, than any other player. That's a given. Then he pops up and scores goals too. Magnificent.

I'm really enjoying the football I'm seeing right now. It's been a long time. I have been jumping out of my seat recently. It has been a long time. I just wish I'd had a bit more perspective when the times were leaner, I will next time around.

Individuals like Aaron Ramsey have helped me learn that lesson.

I always kinda liked Ramsey so I never got on his back much, I saw talent in him before his injury though it was unclear as to whether he'd get back to that after the horror injury.

Still remember that little pirouette goal he scored before getting injured that showed some real ability. Very glad he's come back to his best, seems very grounded as well and to get back from an injury like that takes a lot of determination and focus, something one or two other youngsters in our squad could do with.

Fist of Lehmann
13-11-2013, 01:38 PM
The truth can be liberating.

Oh sure.

When N_Q says it it's "liberating", but when I whisper it to strangers on the tube it's a 2 month custodial sentence?

Letters
13-11-2013, 02:00 PM
Whilst I agree with a lot of N_Q's post, it has to be said that you can't commend Wenger for standing by Ramsey without scratching your head at what he sees/saw in Bendtner, Chamakh and, God help me, Gervinho.

And while the Özil transfer was a brilliant coup you have to question the priorities and strategy of a club who sold their best player - and captain - to a side who we were supposed to be trying to compete with. A side who went on to win the title the following season while we were struggling all year to keep in the top 4. Not to mention that the player was the difference between the two sides on Sunday.

Things do seem to be going in the right direction again now though. I too am enjoying the football and - and this is the key point - have hope again. It's the lack of hope that kills you. I'm not sure we'll win a trophy this year but my definition of "success" is not that simplistic. I think this will be a good season whatever happens. The players look like they're enjoying their football and that they're willing to fight for each other and for the fans. That's enough for me wherever we end up in May.

Xhaka Can’t
13-11-2013, 04:06 PM
Good post Letters.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
13-11-2013, 06:51 PM
Good post Numbers.

Niall_Quinn
13-11-2013, 08:09 PM
Oh sure.

When N_Q says it it's "liberating", but when I whisper it to strangers on the tube it's a 2 month custodial sentence?

I don't use the tube - that's probably the key difference.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
13-11-2013, 09:03 PM
I don't use lube - that's probably the key difference.

Poor woman.

Master Splinter
13-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Poor man.

Spot on.

Syn
15-11-2013, 03:05 PM
But generally in football, more goals are scored in the second half of games, so most players' stats reflect this, and none more so than man of the moment Aaron Ramsey.A whopping 91 per cent of his goals (all but two) have come after the break, and 77 per cent (17 in total) of Ramsey's goals have been scored in the last half hour of games. His average goal time is 67.09 minutes.

67 mins is now Ramsey time. :bow:

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
16-11-2013, 11:08 AM
http://i.imgur.com/iKXPsfD.gif

McNamara That Ghost...
30-11-2013, 04:57 PM
Have to be honest, I kinda bauked at the suggestion of a Ronaldo-esque jump in quality (05-06 to 06-07) but it might just be.

selassie
30-11-2013, 05:00 PM
He's a shoe-in for Player of the Year ATM IMHO. The boy has it all.

Marc Overmars
30-11-2013, 05:01 PM
An even bigger jump in quality than Ronaldo's tbh.

Xhaka Can’t
30-11-2013, 05:01 PM
Holy fuck is he ever lucky this season!

McNamara That Ghost...
30-11-2013, 05:01 PM
Holy fuck is he ever lucky this season!

Souness. :haha:

Wright. :haha:

Master Splinter
30-11-2013, 05:11 PM
Luck :bow:.

GP
30-11-2013, 05:14 PM
But what does he do?

Souness :haha:

Ollie the Optimist
30-11-2013, 05:15 PM
wish i could remember which thread i predicted Ramsey would be in the PFA team of the year. he's almost got player of the year sown up too. he's on fire. no one has been close to him in terms of performances this season except aguero

Marc Overmars
30-11-2013, 05:16 PM
wish i could remember which thread i predicted Ramsey would be in the PFA team of the year. he's almost got player of the year sown up too. he's on fire. no one has been close to him in terms of performances this season except aguero

You predicting that was pretty incredible tbf.

GP
30-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Ollie the Optometrist :bow:

Xhaka Can’t
30-11-2013, 05:22 PM
You predicting that was pretty lucky tbf.

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/richmedia/images/cover.gif

Xhaka Can’t
30-11-2013, 05:22 PM
I'm having no luck. :(

milla
30-11-2013, 05:29 PM
Nice gif Gary :doh:

mastermind84
01-12-2013, 03:52 AM
RIP Paul Walker :(

Ollie the Optimist
02-12-2013, 06:26 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BagATpJIUAAFiYH.jpg:large

how long until Perez has a meltdown after realising he sold Ozil and spent 85 million on the wrong welshman?


Ozil :bow:
Ramsey :bow:

Arsene Wenger :bow:

spurs :haha:

Boss
02-12-2013, 11:07 PM
Given that Bale has 9 goals and 6 assists in his last 7 matches don't think we can keep lol'ing at Madrid but yes, Ramsey :bow:

And Spurs :haha: :haha: :haha:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
02-12-2013, 11:20 PM
I don't think Bale has done too badly at Madrid so far either and have stated that I think he will be a fine player for them but delighted with Ramsey nonetheless.

Should Ramsey's stats slip below that of Bale's it would be silly to make too much of that too.

Master Splinter
04-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Best natural Welshman in the world.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2013, 12:04 PM
I don't know if you've heard but he is a lot more confident in front of goal and is now enjoying himself.

Master Splinter
04-12-2013, 12:11 PM
Flamini has secretly been our best signing.

He's changed everything.

Even in those matches where he was banned/injured/on the bench and Arteta was single-handedly controlling the central areas.

And it took Ramsey a long time to get over his injury.

Shaqiri Is Boss
04-12-2013, 12:14 PM
Aaron Ramsey is 22.

GP
04-12-2013, 12:16 PM
He's been very lucky.

LDG
04-12-2013, 12:19 PM
Everything is coming off for him. It's because he broke his leg.

He was out for a long time.

Master Splinter
04-12-2013, 12:21 PM
He drives forward.

He arrives in the box.

He got over the leg break.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
04-12-2013, 01:56 PM
He has a big penis.

Syn
04-12-2013, 02:13 PM
Another homosexual Ramsey video with the customary background commentary when he scores, and a clip of the legbreak in the middle to drive home the point of how well our boy has done.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UjNjHch89o

Master Splinter
04-12-2013, 03:41 PM
Possibly the greatest thread ever (yes homo):

http://onemoreinthetolly.com/Thread-The-Aaron-Ramsey-gif-thread

The second goal against Fenerbahce at home was sublime.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/29589c2588c573784db99a0406c8f43c/tumblr_ms7mnyl9SN1sn7k9qo1_400.gif

Munchies
05-12-2013, 04:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spa6bpzx2Uo

Özil's Panoramic View
05-12-2013, 05:02 PM
What a proper human being this lad is.

Humility. :bow:

Belief. :bow:

Perseverance. :bow:

All backed up by natural ability.

I feel like the right mug I am for slating him when all he was doing was steadily getting his career back on track.

Also, Wenger. :bow:

For seeing what most fans could never see and sticking by Rambo when he needed it most.

Marc Overmars
05-12-2013, 05:21 PM
He's just oozing class at the moment.

The complete player. Or at least about as close as you can get.

fakeyank
05-12-2013, 05:56 PM
To think... someone on GW wanted him dead! :lol:

LDG
05-12-2013, 07:52 PM
Humbert Chumpmans Frizbee :lol:

Master Splinter
05-12-2013, 08:14 PM
Humility. :bow:

Belief. :bow:

Perseverance. :bow:

All backed up by natural ability.



He's WENGbot's prototype player.


I must say, Ramsey has shown an outstanding belief and determination. This boy has a great spirit and does not give up. One year ago maybe he would play little bit with the handbrake on and not go for every challenge. But now he does not drop physically. He is a quiet boy but an exceptional voice on the pitch. It is absolutely remarkable, yes. He has all the technical quality too of course to be a football leader and make a top, top global impression. Will he be a world leader one day as well? One day. Why not? But he must be humble.

Munchies
05-12-2013, 08:23 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaS_dPWCEAAYhbn.jpg

Marc Overmars
05-12-2013, 08:37 PM
So Wales produce 2 of the best players in the business currently, England produce Tom Cleverly.

GP
05-12-2013, 08:38 PM
Ramsey and Robson-Kanu :bow:

Cleverly :pal:

Munchies
06-12-2013, 12:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAxEFJkRgc

:coffee:

What a player :bow:

LDG
06-12-2013, 10:43 AM
Ramsey :bow:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34s_cIuHWB4

Munchies
04-02-2014, 02:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UjNjHch89o

Wow, not sure if I posted this before, but just saw it again.

:bow:

Need him back asap

Niall_Quinn
04-02-2014, 02:49 PM
Injuries are just fucking killing us again. Really unlucky for him in what was already his best ever season.

Master Splinter
04-02-2014, 03:49 PM
The day Ramsey returns to the pitch, whoever is having a great run of form at that moment - Ox/Gnabry/Podolski/Ozil/Cazorla/Wheelchair/Sanogo- will immediately break down and be out for the season. Having just scored a hat-trick in the Allianz.

And we'll also hear news that Walcott is actually out for two years.

And Kallstrom was indeed a huge piece of WUMming.

Syn
04-02-2014, 04:00 PM
The no.2 problem at the club, after Wenger's serial wumming.

Grebbo
04-02-2014, 04:45 PM
What's his injury?

Munchies
04-02-2014, 05:09 PM
What's his injury?

Originally he had a thigh strain, due to playing loads of games and not being rested properly.

Back into training, where he suffered a setback of the same injury.

Özim
04-02-2014, 09:34 PM
Originally he had a thigh strain, due to playing loads of games and not being rested properly.

Back into training, where he suffered a setback of the same injury.

Venga :bow:

Munchies
25-02-2014, 09:11 AM
Aaron Ramsey is targeting the Tottenham game on March 16 as a potential comeback, [Mirror]

McNamara That Ghost...
25-02-2014, 09:26 AM
:pray:

Would mean less need to 'rest' players against Bayern Munich.

Letters
25-02-2014, 09:55 AM
New signings :bow:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-02-2014, 12:33 PM
So about 3 weeks.... time. That would be bloody lovely. Really miss him.

Munchies
25-02-2014, 12:53 PM
Games till then:

Stoke V Arsenal
Arsenal V Everton (FA Cup)
Bayern Munich V Arsenal
Tottenham V Arsenal
Chelsea v Arsenal
Arsenal v Man City

Just in time :popcorn:

Syn
25-02-2014, 12:58 PM
He won't be back until after the Man City game when we're already out of the title race. My guess is he won't be back this season. That was just a chancer by john cross to suggest he'd be back for tottenham. Tbf I'm chancing it too but I chance better than him.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-02-2014, 01:04 PM
Way to burst a balloon Syn...

Penguin
25-02-2014, 06:28 PM
Even if he is fit to play by the Spurs game it will take him a few weeks to get himself into any decent kind of form. Nobody hits the ground running after such a long lay off.

Maestro
25-02-2014, 09:10 PM
Way to burst a lead balloon Syn...



Syn :sulk:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
28-02-2014, 12:47 PM
When is he back?.....i make it that he should be back either for the Bayern return fixture or the North London Derby

Niall_Quinn
28-02-2014, 05:53 PM
http://centerhalf12.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/humble-pie.jpg?w=480

Ollie the Optimist
28-02-2014, 06:24 PM
:haha: