Champions League Group Stage Draw. 25th August 16:45 BST.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

There will be lots of delays before and during it as they have to tell us who the team of last year's tournament was.

Group A
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Manchester City
Napoli
Group B
Inter
CSKA Moscow
Lille
Trabzonsport
Group C
Manchester United
Benfica
Basle
Otelul Galati
Group D
Real Madrid
Lyon
Ajax
Dinamo Zagreb
Group E
Chelsea
Valencia
Bayer Leverkusen
Genk
Group F
Arsenal
Marseille
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group G
Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Zenit St. Petersburg
APOEL
Group H
Barcelona
Milan
BATE Borisov
Viktoria Plzen

Arsenal. :bow:

[cheesy bites]

It's about damn time this thread could be made.

[Marc Overmars]

Lets not fuck it up this time and draw Barca eh?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Borussia Dortmund in Pot 4, that is surely one team everyone will want to avoid.

[cheesy bites]

Fuck, pot 2 looks ridiculously tough. And half of pot 3. At least we're there though :patrice:

Nightmare draw:
Arsenal
Milan
Zenit
Dortmund

Dream draw:
Arsenal
Marseille
Bate Borisov
Otelul

[Boss]

Hope we get Otelol.

[cheesy bites]

All the big names from Europe are in there, wow. Minus Liverpool

[GP]

Arsenal. :bow:

:gp:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona
Milan
Manchester City
Borussia Dortmund.

Make it happen. :pray:

[Joker]

Arsenal
Benfica
Lille
Viktoria Plzen

IMO

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Barcelona
Milan
Manchester City
Borussia Dortmund.

Make it happen. :pray:

Would be funny if that did happen spent all that money to get knocked out in the group stages.

[Marc Overmars]

Would be funny if that did happen spent all that money to get knocked out in the group stages.

Yeah, Barca getting knocked out would be funny.

[Cripps_orig]

Bit annoyed that we won't see the likes of Handanovic in the CL. He's fucking awesome and would love him here. We have to have the unknown teams with pub team players instead.

[AKBapologist]

Bit annoyed that we won't see the likes of Handanovic in the CL. He's fucking awesome and would love him here. We have to have the unknown teams with pub team players instead.
Says the guy who'd rather have De Gea over Szczesny.

[Cripps_orig]

Don't see what De Gea has to do with this. Believe it or not, unlike yourself I do watch football outside of England and there are quality keepers out there of which Handanovic is one

[milla]

There will be lots of delay3 before and during it as they have to tell us who the team of lcst year's tournament was.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2zgtg0o.png
Arsenal. :bow:

I hope we get Milan, Cite` and Dortmund. 8good:

[milla]

Barcelona
Milan
Manchester City
Borussia Dortmund.

Make it happen. :pray:

Can we draw Citeh in the group stage? :coffee:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No we can't.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Also people, what do you think is the toughest group we could get?

I think:

Arsenal
Valencia
Zenit St. Petersburg
Borussia Dortumund.

[milla]

No we can't.

Ohh.. then Lille would be a good alternative, I want us to get big teams. As a fan, I am sick of paying 50-60 quids to see us struggling to break small pub teams. :coffee:

[GP]

Pot 3 scares me.

I don't think we could master BATE.

[milla]

Also people, what do you think is the toughest group we could get?

I think:

Arsenal
Valencia
Zenit St. Petersburg
Borussia Dortumund.

Not if buy Subotic & Hummels :pray:

[milla]

Pot 3 scares me.

I don't think we could master BATE.

Would make a great scouting games for the ol man. :coffee:

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Do we have to go through the pompous bullshit of UEFA naming and displaying the players of last years tournament? It says the draw begins at 1645 gmt, but I aint sitting thru all that BS.

[Cripps_orig]

Do we have to go through the pompous bullshit of UEFA naming and displaying the players of last years tournament? It says the draw begins at 1645 gmt, but I aint sitting thru all that BS.

Yes

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Afraid so. They'll have the preamble and then have the interruptions in between pots too.

[WMUG]

Do we have to go through the pompous bullshit of UEFA naming and displaying the players of last years tournament? It says the draw begins at 1645 gmt, but I aint sitting thru all that BS.The programme starts at 4, so I imagine the actual draw will start at 4:45

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Oh FFS, I cant bear Platini Jizzin his pants when awarding all the Barcunts their awards. Looks like I'll follow the draw on BBC website then.

[Cripps_orig]

The programme starts at 4, so I imagine the actual draw will start at 4:45

It starts at half 4

[Fist of Lehmann]

Barcelona
Milan
Manchester City
Borussia Dortmund.

Make it happen. :pray:Group of Megadeath.

:pray:

[Cripps_orig]

How are seedings determined for this?

Leverkusen in pot 3 and the German Champions in 4?

Arsenal in 1 and BATE in pot 3?

Couple of shockers there

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's based on coefficients over the last five seasons, like it always has been.

[milla]

It's based on coefficients over the last five seasons, like it always has been.

Then Barca, Madrid and Manu should be in pot 4, all three are in huge debt. :coffee:

[hobson's choice]

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=1664395.html#eleven+former+winners+grace+gr oup+stage+draw

Scroll down

[Cripps_orig]

Hope we get a big name team.

[hobson's choice]

Jeez looks at pot 1 and all the multiple winners, and then Us and Chelsea, with just runners up next to our names:(

[Cripps_orig]

Jeez looks at pot 1 and all the multiple winners, and then Us and Chelsea, with just runners up next to our names:(

That will change this season. Dont worry.

I reckon Chelsea will win it

[hobson's choice]

I see us getting Villareal, Zenit, and Genk

[Edinburgh Gooner]

I would take....
Valencia
Basle
Genk

That be a nice group.

[milla]

I would take....
Valencia
Basle
Genk

That be a nice group.

Bad for fans, give us the big names. :coffee:

[hobson's choice]

We gonna get at least one of them Eastern Euro teams.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just let us avoid anything Eastern European, Greek or Turkish. Maybe north France, Belgium, Spain at a push. And have Utd and Chelsea flying off to the arsehole of nowhere to play in blizzards. City, cunts, who cares?

[Marc Overmars]

I'd like to get Milan. At least the group wouldn't entirely be a dross filled bore-fest for a change.

[Flavs]

I'd like to get Milan. At least the group wouldn't entirely be a dross filled bore-fest for a change.

funny if citeh get them and Real

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Didn't we at least try to make it exciting by having the good grace to lose to Braga and Shakhtar last season?

[hobson's choice]

I'd like to get Milan. At least the group wouldn't entirely be a dross filled bore-fest for a change.

Looking at Milan these days, every English team in the CL would want to play them.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Looking around mainstream media sites today, I have noticed a few articles stating that "we have earnt our place among the top seeds." We have been in the top pot for years even after having to endure many play offs to reach the group stages. Is this down to our pedigree in European competition over the last 14 years? Spuds and Citeh, on thier debut seasons have been dumped into pot 3. If co efficients are used to determine number of places etc, does the seeding come down to past performances? I find it weird that teh german winners and runners up have been put in the bottom two pots tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yes it is accumulated from the past five seasons in Europe. Worth noting that both the Europa League and Champions League are given equal weighting with regards to the coefficient attained over each season, hence why Porto have made it in to Pot 1.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Yes it is accumulated from the past five seasons in Europe. Worth noting that both the Europa League and Champions League are given equal weighting with regards to the coefficient attained over each season, hence why Porto have made it in to Pot 1.

Cheers Macca!!! Do Citeh have a European pedigree tho?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cheers Macca!!! Do Citeh have a European pedigree tho?

They have played in the UEFA Cup/Europa League a couple of times but they didn't really do anything too significant in that time.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

They have played in the UEFA Cup/Europa League a couple of times but they didn't really do anything too significant in that time.

So they should really be in the last pot, but due to the successes of "the top four" over the years they have "earnt" their stripes lol.

[Niall_Quinn]

Looking around mainstream media sites today, I have noticed a few articles stating that "we have earnt our place among the top seeds." We have been in the top pot for years even after having to endure many play offs to reach the group stages. Is this down to our pedigree in European competition over the last 14 years? Spuds and Citeh, on thier debut seasons have been dumped into pot 3. If co efficients are used to determine number of places etc, does the seeding come down to past performances? I find it weird that teh german winners and runners up have been put in the bottom two pots tbh.

Sounds like City couldn't buy the pot of their choice. Shame. If their soap opera survives another five years then maybe they'll actually earn a spot, if such a thought has even crossed their minds.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Sounds like City couldn't buy the pot of their choice. Shame. If their soap opera survives another five years then maybe they'll actually earn a spot, if such a thought has even crossed their minds.

:haha:

[I_Killed_Kenny]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So they should really be in the last pot, but due to the successes of "the top four" over the years they have "earnt" their stripes lol.
Not really, Citeh are where they are because that's how well they have performed. Citeh are in pot three because they have been in Europe more than the rest of them.

[Marc Overmars]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

I would like to have sex with her.

She is freakishly small though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Champions League music. :bow:

Sky's programme is on now. Dwight Yorke, Ray Wilkins and Alan Smith are in the studio.

[cricketsi]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

She's rough, and she always has been.

[Cripps_orig]

Dwight Yorke, Ray Wilkins and Alan Smith in the studio

No City representative

[GP]

So's your penis

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sounds like City couldn't buy the pot of their choice. Shame. If their soap opera survives another five years then maybe they'll actually earn a spot, if such a thought has even crossed their minds.

:lol:

[Ironing]

Where can this be watched/listened to?

Text is boring

[I_Killed_Kenny]

She's rough, and she always has been.

thats not always a bad thing!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Where can this be watched/listened to?

Text is boring

UEFA website probably. I expect fivelive or talksport have radio coverage.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They've cut to the draw now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

"In the next hour" :sick:

Melanie Vinegar calls it WAYFA. Bless. :lol:

[Dog Toffee]

Arsenal drawn with City.

(my prediction)

[dazthegooner]

Arsenal drawn with City.

(my prediction)

Not possible clubs from the same country cannot be drawn together in the group stages.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Arsenal drawn with City.

(my prediction)

you new to this football malarky?

[Ironing]

UEFA website probably. I expect fivelive or talksport have radio coverage.

cheers big ears

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/draws/index.html

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Puyol is dressed well for such a glamorous occasion. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1650: And I have some timings for you now. The trophy will arrive on stage at 1651 BST. The first pot will be drawn at 1705, the second pot at 1716, the third pot at 1727 and the fourth pot at 1737. Be excited. There's also The Best Player in Europe Award at 1800 BST. Party time. Excellent.

It's even worse than I thought.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A UWAFER statement on their stance against corruption. :lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Manu

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Group A
Bayern Munich
Group B
Inter
Group C
Manchester United
Group D
Real Madrid
Group E
Chelsea
Group F
Arsenal
Group G
Porto
Group H
Barcelona

Citeh have to be paired on Man Utd's side then. Very weird.

[The Realist]

looks like they save best till last haha so we got group F

[Ironing]

This is so fucking tedious

What was the point in that (the first draw)? Just assign the first 6 teams groups A-F in alphabetical order and be done with it

Dun dun dun... and Arsenal is in group... F! Wow, F! Thought we we're gonna get D!

Exhilarating.

edit: Am I missing something?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lyon with Real Madrid.

[Asthmatic Kitty]

god how hard is it to read out a bit of paper, senile fools

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bobby doesn't know what he is doing.

[The Realist]

sir bobby charlton :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica with Man Utd.

[Özim]

Lyon with Real Madrid.
Lyon always get a tough draw.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We've got Marseille. :dance:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Valencia with Chelsea. :dance:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FFS Bobby.

:haha:

[Özim]

Valencia with Chelsea. :dance:
Mata will destroy them.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Valencia with Chelsea. :dance:

mata just came in his pants

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shakhtar Donetsk with Porto.

[The Realist]

Could have been worse tbh, they're not the team they were a few seasons ago.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We've got Marseille. :dance:

Wonder who nasri will support that night

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barca and Milan.

:popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Group A
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Group B
Inter
CSKA Moscow
Group C
Manchester United
Benfica
Group D
Real Madrid
Lyon
Group E
Chelsea
Valencia
Group F
Arsenal
Marseille
Group G
Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Group H
Barcelona
Milan

[Fist of Lehmann]

Barca and Milan.

:popcorn:Group of MegaDeath.

IT'S ON!

[4-3-3]

Barca and Milan.

:popcorn:

..please city in this froup

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bobby is going now. Thank god.

[fakeyank]

Group of MegaDeath.

IT'S ON!

Milan is shit

[Fist of Lehmann]

Milan is shitTrue, it's got a nice cathedral though.

[Asthmatic Kitty]

"you shuffle, very good!" :D

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lille with Inter and CSKA.

I don't think Citeh can be on our side of the draw.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zenit with Shak and Porto.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ajax with Real Madrid and Lyon.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

City get Bayen And Villlarreal. Interesting

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Olympiakos for us.

:haha:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

so far so good

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Citeh with Bayern Munich and Villarreal.

:popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Leverkusen with Chelsea and Valencia.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Looks like ManU get a piss easy draw again.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Basle with Man Utd and Benfica.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

can feel another Wenger excuse that the sqaud is good enough

[Arsenal Fan]

got another dream group, i bet we fuck it up again lol

[fakeyank]

Seems like Real play Lyon every freakin season!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Group A
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Manchester City
Group B
Inter
CSKA Moscow
Lille
Group C
Manchester United
Benfica
Basle
Group D
Real Madrid
Lyon
Ajax
Group E
Chelsea
Valencia
Bayer Leverkusen
Group F
Arsenal
Marseille
Olympiakos
Group G
Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Zenit St. Petersburg
Group H
Barcelona
Milan
BATE Borisov

[fakeyank]

Isnt Gilberto with Olympiakos?

[milla]

Isnt Gilberto with Olympiakos?

Retired or somewhere in lower Brazilian league. :coffee:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Napoli with Villarreal, Bayern Munich and Citeh.

:haha:

[The Realist]

group a looks like a belter

[Master Splinter]

Isnt Gilberto with Olympiakos?

He was at Panathinaikos, but just moved back home to Gremio over the summer.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

APOEL in Porto's group.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

City have to go to Napoli lol

[Fist of Lehmann]

1 in 5 chance of getting Dortmund.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd have OtelLOL.

:doh:

[WengerISaLizard]

Seems like Real play Lyon every freakin season!

It is so odd, they must be sick of eachother by now

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dinamo Zagreb with Real Madrid.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Man Utd have OtelLOL.

:doh:

They always get the hard group don't they

[Master Splinter]

United have the easiest group ever :lol:.

[Boss]

ffs I wanted Otelol for us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Viktoria Plzen with Barca. :lol:

[Boss]

Hope we get Dortmund then.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Genk in Chelsea's group.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We've got Dortmund. :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Group A
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Manchester City
Napoli
Group B
Inter
CSKA Moscow
Lille
Trabzonsport
Group C
Manchester United
Benfica
Basle
Otelul Galati
Group D
Real Madrid
Lyon
Ajax
Dinamo Zagreb
Group E
Chelsea
Valencia
Bayer Leverkusen
Genk
Group F
Arsenal
Marseille
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group G
Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Zenit St. Petersburg
APOEL
Group H
Barcelona
Milan
BATE Borisov
Viktoria Plzen

[Boss]

Good group for us. :woohoo:

Citeh's group should be interesting, as well as Barca-Milan :popcorn:

[WMUG]

FFS the worst type of group, no big names to get the crowd going but still a toughie.

[Master Splinter]

We should buy Gotze and Hummels to fuck them up.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

FFS the worst type of group, no big names to get the crowd going but still a toughie.

Dortmund will be tricky though

[WengerISaLizard]

whats the chances that Dortmund and Marseilles go through? don't write off an arsenal explosion, as this season collapse has just begun

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FFS the worst type of group, no big names to get the crowd going but still a toughie.

Borussia Dortmund not a big name?

:blink:

[Marc Overmars]

Having Dortmund in there makes it interesting. :popcorn:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Group G looks so shit

[Boss]

Man up children.

We're walking this filth.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

no real complaints there really. fucking north london gna be mad when we play olympiakos!

[milla]

Borussia Dortmund not a big name?

:blink:

What are the odds of our strikers scoring against one of the best CB pairing (Subotic and Hummels) in europe? I can see us finishing 2nd in this group. :coffee:

[WMUG]

Borussia Dortmund not a big name?

:blink:What've they done in the past what, 15 years?
They may be a better team, but they're not gonna create an Emirates atmosphere like Milan would. So we get the double whammy of facing a good team in front of a shit crowd.

[milla]

What've they done in the past what, 15 years?

European champion for once. :coffee:

[WengerISaLizard]

no real complaints there really. fucking north london gna be mad when we play olympiakos!

Definitively gonna try to get tickets to this one

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What've they done in the past what, 15 years?

Won the Champions League? Runners up in the UEFA Cup? Won the Bundesliga last season along with two other times in the period you mention. Plus they are one of the best supported clubs in Europe.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Miyachi vs Kagawa fight

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What've they done in the past what, 15 years?
They may be a better team, but they're not gonna create an Emirates atmosphere like Milan would. So we get the double whammy of facing a good team in front of a shit crowd.

I'll re-quote this because it's insane. Borussia Dortmund's supporters are amazingly vocal. Games against German sides are rarely, if ever as tame as you make out.

[Marc Overmars]

I have been to watch Dortmund before and their stadium is electric. 10 Euros a ticket for standing, cheap beer on the go, all makes for a great atmosphere. It's basically what England was like in the 80's, only without the brain dead neanderthals ruining it for everyone.

[milla]

I'll re-quote this because it's insane. Borussia Dortmund's supporters are amazingly vocal. Games against German sides are rarely, if ever as tame as you make out.

Tis :gp:

[Fist of Lehmann]

At least there's something in the group stages worth watching.

Should be an interesting pair of matches.

[milla]

I have been to watch Dortmund before and their stadium is electric. 10 Euros a ticket for standing, cheap beer on the go, all makes for a great atmosphere. It's basically what England was like in the 80's, only without the brain dead neanderthals ruining it for everyone.

That's the good thing about Bundesliga, tickets are very cheap and the atmosphere is amazing! :coffee:

[Master Splinter]

Rod Fanni is coming to the Emirates :scarf:.

[WMUG]

I'll re-quote this because it's insane. Borussia Dortmund's supporters are amazingly vocal. Games against German sides are rarely, if ever as tame as you make out.I'm not talking about Dortmund's fans.

[Cripps_orig]

Just got back.

Recorded the draw so i could fast forward all the shit. Saw Bobbys gaffe though :lol:

Will be known for that now rather than anything he did on the pitch. Old cunt

Anyway most important thing about the draw? Real and Arsenal playing on seperate days :dance:

Means i can watch both. After seeing Marseille and Olympicgames in our group, i was disappointed but delighted we got Dortmund. WMUG :haha:

They are an excellent team and we are fighting for 2nd with the other 3 imo as long as Dortmund dont sell their big stars.

[Cripps_orig]

Group of death?

Id say A

[Cripps_orig]

Wonder if Maradona being Agueros grandad or something will go to the game v Napoli

Perfect time for someone to kick his ass

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not talking about Dortmund's fans.

I was. They will contribute to a good atmosphere.

[Cripps_orig]

Joint 6th favourites for the CL

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The draw pushed us out a bit, strangely.

[milla]

BTW Dortmund has 80,720 capacity stadium 25% more than us. :coffee:

[Master Splinter]

Dortmund's stadium:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Westfalenstadion_von_oben.jpg/300px-Westfalenstadion_von_oben.jpg

OteLOL's stadium:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Stadionul_Otelul_din_Galati.JPG

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

BTW Dortmund has 80,720 capacity stadium 25% more than us. :coffee:

Small club tbf.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We have Borussia Dortmund away first match.

Tuesday 13th Sept - Borussia Dortmund (a)
Wednesday 28th Sept - Olympiakos (h)
Wednesday 19th Oct - Marseille (a)
Tuesday 1st Nov - Marseille (h)
Wednesday 23rd Nov - Borussia Dortmund (h)
Tuesday 6th Dec - Olympiakos (a)

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/Draws/01/66/79/36/1667936_DOWNLOAD.pdf

[Kano]

two away ties in the first three will make this a close call

[Master Splinter]

Hopefully Sir Jack is back by then.

But more likely is that all our players will be dead after the international break.

[Özim]

Hopefully Sir Jack is back by then.

But more likely is that all our players will be dead after the international break.
Won't matter, we'll have Hazard, Kaka and Benzema to fall back on if he isn't.

[Niall_Quinn]

As long as we field proper teams against Olympiakos we should have enough to get through. Must get 6 points in those two games and win our home games. I doubt City will get through though - LOL.

[Letters]

As long as we field proper teams against Olympiakos we should have enough to get through. Must get 6 points in those two games and win our home games. I doubt City will get through though - LOL.

If City are struggling this year they'll spend another £200m at Christmas.
They're 'ambitious', you see.

[WMUG]

Small club tbf.I did not say they were a small club! But they're not going to generate an atmosphere among the Arsenal fans at the game in the same way Milan would, rightly or wrongly. Yes there'll be a great atmosphere at their ground, but that's their advantage, not ours.

[Boss]

WMUG is spot on here.

Just cos some of you know who Borussia Dortmund are doesn't mean that the 60k that fill our stadium will.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I did not say they were a small club! But they're not going to generate an atmosphere among the Arsenal fans at the game in the same way Milan would, rightly or wrongly. Yes there'll be a great atmosphere at their ground, but that's their advantage, not ours.

And they will help to create a good, if not great atmopshere at ours. The quality of their team will raise that for it too, unless it is a dead rubber (it is the fifth game we will play after all). Can I ask why you keep using Milan as the standard bearer; was there something particularly memorable for you about the atmosphere for the 0-0 three years ago?

I was being faceitious before, given I hadn't actually quoted you then.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

WMUG is spot on here.

Just cos some of you know who Borussia Dortmund are doesn't mean that the 60k that fill our stadium will.

I suspect it could well just be a good atmosphere based on the fact we'll be playing a German team, regardless of anything else - I think most will know they are German.

[WMUG]

And they will help to create a good, if not great atmopshere at ours. The quality of their team will raise that for it too, unless it is a dead rubber (it is the fifth game we will play after all). Can I ask why you keep using Milan as the standard bearer; was there something particularly memorable for you about the atmosphere for the 0-0 three years ago?

I was being faceitious before, given I hadn't actually quoted you then.Because they're a team we could've got today. They may be a worse team than Dortmund, I don't know, but they'd have inspired a better atmosphere than Dortmund, Olympiakos or Marseille will, I can assure you that.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Because they're a team we could've got today. They may be a worse team than Dortmund, I don't know, but they'd have inspired a better atmosphere than Dortmund, Olympiakos or Marseille will, I can assure you that.

Milan are a team we have actually played before in the Champions League so I was figuring you might recall if, for you, the atmosphere was special for that game.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Because they're a team we could've got today. They may be a worse team than Dortmund, I don't know, but they'd have inspired a better atmosphere than Dortmund, Olympiakos or Marseille will, I can assure you that.

It shouldn't matter who we are playing PL or European. There should be a great atmosphere from our end. I have never been to a Home game, but by watchin on TV teh atmosphere at the Grove are not what I saw from games at Highbury. Stick Milan in our group and we'd probably struggle to get out of it. I'd prefer getting to the knock out stages with a silent crowd, than get knocked out whilst at the same time having an electric atmosphere.

[WMUG]

Milan are a team we have actually played before in the Champions League so I was figuring you might recall if, for you, the atmosphere was special for that game.Not special, but certainly above average.

My point, EG (which was meant to be a throwaway comment that started this whole thing off) is that there will be no electric atmosphere and still decent teams that we may struggle to get past.

Anyway, this nit picking has gone far enough, I'm out.

[GP]

Not special, but certainly above average.

My point, EG (which was meant to be a throwaway comment that started this whole thing off) is that there will be no electric atmosphere and still decent teams that we may struggle to get past.

Anyway, this nit picking has gone far enough, I'm out.

It's only the group stage. Big teams come later.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not special, but certainly above average.

My point, EG (which was meant to be a throwaway comment that started this whole thing off) is that there will be no electric atmosphere and still decent teams that we may struggle to get past.

Anyway, this nit picking has gone far enough, I'm out.

Well my irony meter exploded there - it wasn't nitpicking, it was establishing what you thought of the atmosphere we had when we played the team you referenced. It doesn't have to be an 'electric' atmosphere, I never suggested it would be, I said it would be a good atmosphere. And if it gets to the level of the Milan game which I now know you consider above average (and that for a knock-out tie) then that I guess that would indeed represent a relatively good atmosphere.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just listening to Talksport's coverage of the draw - they all celebrated because they thought Citeh would actually be in Barcelona and Milan's group. :haha:

Fucking idiots.

[Marc Overmars]

I thought that as well because the bloke said there was only 1 group they could go into at the time and Barca & Milan were awaiting a 3rd team. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They did that on Talksport from working it out on their own idiocy. :lol:

[hobson's choice]

City's group aint that hard, Bayern while with a good attack, have a shit defense, Villareal and Napoli will get over run by City, if they are on top of their game.

[Niall_Quinn]

City will be too busy preparing for the January transfer window to pose any threat to anyone in the CL.

[Master Splinter]

City's group aint that hard, Bayern while with a good attack, have a shit defense, Villareal and Napoli will get over run by City, if they are on top of their game.

Bayern can be absolutely sensational or a mess. But they seem to raise their game in Europe.

Villarreal are always tough to beat, If they keep Rossi, they should do well.

Napoli have bought some good players, so they could be an intriguing proposition. But I don't really expect any of the Italian teams to pose much of a threat.

Citeh haven't played at this level before, but by buying half our team they have players who've done it before. Actually, come to think of it, apart from ex-Arsenal mercenary scum, most of their players don't have all that much CL experience. Even the likes of Tevez, Aguero and Silva only have a few seasons of CL experience. So, basically, it's up to Clichy to lead the charge.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I thought that as well because the bloke said there was only 1 group they could go into at the time and Barca & Milan were awaiting a 3rd team. :lol:

Heard that then that plun Durham think they could go and win it lol because only Barca are better then them.