"Currants Bw..."

[Ollie the Optimist]

I see Dominic Cummings is still taking his sacking well :lol:

[Letters]

Which liar do you believe? :shrug:
Although doesn't Cummings have a lot of this stuff on record? As in, he's got copies of the messages - and I note that Boris hasn't denied it all.
For the record, I don't think there's anything wrong with him questioning whether lockdowns are necessary, given the consequences of them.

[Letters]

Scousers :pal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57879475

[Mac76]

Scousers :pal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57879475

none of the people negatively commenting seem to get what 'heritage' means i.e. perserving the historic buildings and character, not building eff-off modern football stadiums in the middle of it...

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Far be it from me to defend the Blues, and not that I give a shit about it being a world heritage site, but it's about a mile and a half up river anyway, absolutely nowhere near the rest of the waterfront of the Three Graces etc.

It's a load of shit token badge that means nothing, and if the price of losing it means we are able to regenerate north Liverpool and the north docks then brilliant because the area is an absolute shit hole (yeah easy joke set up for you there...) and has been since the Germans bombed it to fuck.

On the other hand, this is Everton. The fucking thing either won't get built, fall down or end up diddling some kids :ninja:

[Letters]

Is he a queer?

https://www.wimp.com/the-moment-boy-realizes-live-concerts-are-awesome/

[Mac76]

Is he a queer?

https://www.wimp.com/the-moment-boy-realizes-live-concerts-are-awesome/

well either way, if a record company sees that video, his life is mapped out - child star, money, drugs, women (maybe ;) ), alcohol and then the inevitable slide into tabloid fodder - manipulative parents, underage liaisons, rehab etc etc until it all ends collapsing on the toilet after eating fifty cheeseburgers and snorting twenty lines of coke

good luck to him...

[Niall_Quinn]

well either way, if a record company sees that video, his life is mapped out - child star, money, drugs, women (maybe ;) ), alcohol and then the inevitable slide into tabloid fodder - manipulative parents, underage liaisons, rehab etc etc until it all ends collapsing on the toilet after eating fifty cheeseburgers and snorting twenty lines of coke

good luck to him...

In other words, your liberal nightmare that you condone most of the time but hypocritically condemn when you think it will send out a suitable virtue signal. You are seriously fucking confused, aren't you? Kids like this can only exist if they live in the sewer people like you make for them.

[Niall_Quinn]

Is he a queer?

https://www.wimp.com/the-moment-boy-realizes-live-concerts-are-awesome/

Is it still okay to use that word? Or should it be, "people of shit packing?"

[Letters]

Is it still okay to use that word? Or should it be, "people of shit packing?"

Probably not, but I was referencing this tbf


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHR5Ly3TrwM

[Mac76]

In other words, your liberal nightmare that you condone most of the time but hypocritically condemn when you think it will send out a suitable virtue signal. You are seriously fucking confused, aren't you? Kids like this can only exist if they live in the sewer people like you make for them.

It was a joke, stop drinking and calm down...

[Coney]

It was a joke, stop drinking and calm down...

In this day and age, use of the 'n' word, 'queer' and many others is not consider acceptable behaviour on a public form. Private banter between friends is a different area and is (and should remain) a relatively free area.

If anyone thinks that use of those terms is acceptable, then I can only what century they have been living in or which planet the have been on for the last few decades.

I don't follow PC to the letter - that goes ridiculously too far - but use of terms like queer is not acceptable. In this case, it is not just the use of the word. A kid is dancing and enjoying himself. Calling him gay as 'a joke' means you consider being gay as a joke in itsself. Again. where have people been to think that is an acceptable attitude.

And when it is done by a moderator, wtf????

[Letters]

I literally just explained what I was referencing :doh:

[Letters]

In this day and age, use of the 'n' word, 'queer' and many others is not consider acceptable behaviour on a public form.
This, with respect, is nonsense.
Words in themselves can’t be sexist/racist/etc.
There is always context.
“To Kill A Mockingbird” uses ‘the n word’ liberally because it is dealing with a time when that word was used routinely by certain people, certainly in the parts of America it is set in.
Does that mean the book is racist or should be banned?
Obviously not, it’s a powerful statement against racism.
Context is always key.

[Coney]

I literally just explained what I was referencing :doh:

Not on the original post. In any case, why bother linking the kid dancing to gays? Cheap gag at best.

[Coney]

This, with respect, is nonsense.
Words in themselves can’t be sexist/racist/etc.
There is always context.
“To Kill A Mockingbird” uses ‘the n word’ liberally because it is dealing with a time when that word was used routinely by certain people, certainly in the parts of America it is set in.
Does that mean the book is racist or should be banned?
Obviously not, it’s a powerful statement against racism.
Context is always key.

...and there was no context on the original post.

[Letters]

Not on the original post. In any case, why bother linking the kid dancing to gays? Cheap gag at best.

Agreed. It was a cheap gag. And yeah, not a particularly good one.
I wasn’t expecting anyone to take it that seriously and this is hardly a high profile site.
And before you say “maybe it would be high profile if you moderated properly”, I don’t really agree. The whole concept of message boards has declined over the last decade as people moved on to other social media sites. Most of the mod team oversaw the rise of the site and we’ve overseen the decline of it. We did admittedly used to moderate more strictly but so few people post here now I would argue that it has almost become that private chat amongst a few mates which you talked about above. Obviously one which is publicly viewable, but I doubt anyone does.

[Niall_Quinn]

In this day and age, use of the 'n' word, 'queer' and many others is not consider acceptable behaviour on a public form. Private banter between friends is a different area and is (and should remain) a relatively free area.

If anyone thinks that use of those terms is acceptable, then I can only what century they have been living in or which planet the have been on for the last few decades.

I don't follow PC to the letter - that goes ridiculously too far - but use of terms like queer is not acceptable. In this case, it is not just the use of the word. A kid is dancing and enjoying himself. Calling him gay as 'a joke' means you consider being gay as a joke in itsself. Again. where have people been to think that is an acceptable attitude.

And when it is done by a moderator, wtf????

You do realise that queers stick their dicks up each other's arseholes, right? Why is it "not acceptable" to find that revolting? I find it revolting. I don't like queers, not one little bit. BUT, provided they don't try to push their filth on me or mine I don't have any right to tell them what they can or can't do in their own time. Just as PC fucks don't have any right to tell me how to speak or think. Live and let live is a fine philosophy. Only arrogant authoritarian fucks would disagree.

[Niall_Quinn]

This, with respect, is nonsense.
Words in themselves can’t be sexist/racist/etc.
There is always context.
“To Kill A Mockingbird” uses ‘the n word’ liberally because it is dealing with a time when that word was used routinely by certain people, certainly in the parts of America it is set in.
Does that mean the book is racist or should be banned?
Obviously not, it’s a powerful statement against racism.
Context is always key.

What the hell is "the n word?"

Blacks call themselves niggers, why is the word reserved for their usage? You can't have any sort of justice with an inconsistent standard, it's impossible for it to be justice.

[Coney]

And before you say “maybe it would be high profile if you moderated properly”, I don’t really agree.

Straw man!

[Letters]

Straw man!

You have previously claimed that people are or may be put off this place by the way we moderate, or rather don’t moderate.

So no, not really.

[Mac76]

You do realise that queers stick their dicks up each other's arseholes, right? Why is it "not acceptable" to find that revolting? I find it revolting. I don't like queers, not one little bit. BUT, provided they don't try to push their filth on me or mine I don't have any right to tell them what they can or can't do in their own time. Just as PC fucks don't have any right to tell me how to speak or think. Live and let live is a fine philosophy. Only arrogant authoritarian fucks would disagree.

The difference is that a gay couple doing what they do in private doesn't affect anyone else, whereas your hurling abuse at other people does, so if someone suggests to you that maybe you should desist that's fair enough

[Niall_Quinn]

The difference is that a gay couple doing what they do in private doesn't affect anyone else, whereas your hurling abuse at other people does, so if someone suggests to you that maybe you should desist that's fair enough

Fuck off cunt. Don't try to play the innocent. I never attacked anyone who didn't have it coming. That fucking plank of wood stuck in your eye doesn't even make you blink, does it?

[GP]

Well, Seymour, you are an odd fellow but I must say you steam a good ham.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, Seymour, you are an odd fellow but I must say you steam a good ham.

Probably means something in some universe. They all became woke cunts too. Which is ironic.

[Mac76]

Fuck off cunt. Don't try to play the innocent. I never attacked anyone who didn't have it coming. That fucking plank of wood stuck in your eye doesn't even make you blink, does it?

oh dear, poor baby's upthet again...

[Niall_Quinn]

oh dear, poor baby's upthet again...

Got a dick in your mouth again, femboy? Or is it just a typo?

[Mac76]

Got a dick in your mouth again, femboy? Or is it just a typo?

Nice one Oscar :rolleyes:

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57988023

Warmists :bow:

[GP]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57988023

Warmists :bow:

It was pretty chilly last night.

Checkmate, Atheists.

[Letters]

Say what you like about Boris, but at least his sperm are competent

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58042146

[GP]

How many is that now? 33?

[WMUG]

In France, back here after 5 years.

First foreign holiday since This All (tm) started.

Had to get some documentation that I'd had the vaccine and sign some declaration that I hadn't had any symptoms.

Flight was limited to one household per row though, so I had 3 seats to myself :d

Now I just have to wait for 4 hours in Marseille airport for Dad to arrive <_<

[WMUG]

FFS how do you do the trademark thing? :lol:

[Letters]

Like this —-> [ TM][/TM]

But without the space:

All this nonsense (which is what I called the pandemic last year!)

[GP]

Like this —-> [ TM][/TM]

But without the space:

All this nonsense (which is what I called the pandemic last year!)

The Scamdemic

[Letters]

Plandemic, amirite?

[GP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34rnwBnll4&t=318s

Conspiracy theorists :haha:

It's all one big grift.

[Globalgunner]

How many is that now? 33?

Whose counting? Boris certainly isnt.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34rnwBnll4&t=318s

Conspiracy theorists :haha:

It's all one big grift.

You'd love to think the actions of one man can dismiss the inherent morality people the opposite of you embody. Not true. We'll find you, we'll end you.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Scamdemic

All that - just to be an epic dick?

I'll give you your dues, you are dedicated.

Lots of love, hope you die soon.

[Letters]

We'll find you, we'll end you.

:lol: I hope you know how utterly ridiculous you sound saying stuff like that from behind a keyboard.

[Mac76]

:lol: I hope you know how utterly ridiculous you sound saying stuff like that from behind a keyboard.

self-awareness? from NQ??

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

:lol: I hope you know how utterly ridiculous you sound saying stuff like that from behind a keyboard.

More than happy to deliver the message in person. PM me with details and I'll see you at your earliest convenience. Genuine offer, though no time wasters please.

You might be happy to sit on your lazy, self concerned arse while marxists subvert every aspect of the nation around you. But you need to take seriously the fact that some people don't and won't accept it. Your head is in the sand and you can't see what's going on, but that doesn't mean it's not going on.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu3K730VOk

So who are you voting for next time, geniuses?

[Niall_Quinn]

Nice that there are still real women in the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nii0BBpDss

[Letters]

So who are you voting for next time, geniuses?

In the next US election? I probably won’t vote, I didn’t vote in the last one.
In the next UK election, I guess I’ll go for who I perceive to be the least bad option.
Because the only alternative is to spoil my ballot or not vote at all, and neither of those things will stop someone getting elected.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATw_JGl5opY

[Mac76]

:sleep:

[Niall_Quinn]

:sleep:

I never doubted it.

[Mac76]

I never doubted it.

That's actually funny, pity you can't use humour - rather than threats and abuse - more often

[Niall_Quinn]

That's actually funny, pity you can't use humour - rather than threats and abuse - more often

Been there, done that. Can't be wasting any more time trying to reason with the unreasonable. Every single pause for debate has led to the next abuse. Only one way to deal with communists, the same way as always. Just a shame it wasn't done 50 years ago.

[Letters]

:lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58120598

Holy shit :doh:

[dazthegooner]

That's it never eating a Snickers again strictly Marathons from now on :sulk:

[GP]

Just penis for me

[Letters]

We’re doomed.
Dooooomed!
Doooooooooooo!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58130705

[GP]

Warmists :doh:

It was pretty chilly this morning.

[Letters]

Warmists :doh:

It was pretty chilly this morning.

Some people wouldn’t believe in climate change until it comes marching down their street

:ninja:

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyone who "believes" in climate change gives the game away by their own confession. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of science. The climate has always changed, but the cultists need to convince people this is something new and unrelated to four billion years of nature's progress. Suddenly the vast majority must pay the tiny minority a large amount of money because... computer models. It reminds me of another great scam. But it's hard to appeal to religious zealots. You could show them hard data, like the huge acreage of forest burn in the past compared to the much reduced amount today, but they will still tell you the world is on fire. You can point to the plains of America where not a blade of grass could be glimpsed for the endless herd of buffalo, but the smaller herds of domestic cows now fart to such an extent that the trace amounts of methane in the atmosphere will surely kill us all. Or you can show them water levels in a thousand ports across the globe and how they have maintained a remarkable constancy across decades or even centuries, but they will still tell you the world is set to drown - like the poor Maldives that disappeared beneath the waves... never. None of it reaches these people because they don't know anything but they do "believe" so much.

[Mac76]

I agree that no-one ahould use the word believe as it's a scientific fact, but i don't think many do, it's the anti-reality brigade that try to describe it some kind of faith

Fools like you, who find it all too inconvenient that human behaviour can screw up the planet, refuse to accept it and have led us to the mess we're in

[Niall_Quinn]

I agree that no-one ahould use the word believe as it's a scientific fact, but i don't think many do, it's the anti-reality brigade that try to describe it some kind of faith

Fools like you, who find it all too inconvenient that human behaviour can screw up the planet, refuse to accept it and have led us to the mess we're in

Your response carefully avoids any of the things I mentioned that interfere with your indoctrination. Then you reverse the argument and accuse "fools" like me of behaving in the way I criticised a believer for, as if I'm the one who made the original comment. Your mind is so fucked you can't hold a two sentence argument together.

[Letters]

In your face, America!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-58197414

[dazthegooner]

Strange comment that the incident wasn't terror related I would assume the people at the time were if anything bloody terrified :unsure:

[Letters]

:lol: It means he was white ;)

[Letters]

Email du jour:

"We're getting in touch because your domain name Domain: goonersweb.co.uk is due for renewal within 30 days."

Time to finally pull the plug? It has been on life support for a while now :(

[dazthegooner]

Oh well like Arsenal our cup run must come to and end :(

[GP]

:lol: It means he was white ;)

https://i.imgur.com/elnLWs9.jpeg

[Letters]

Anyone who "believes" in climate change gives the game away by their own confession. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of science.
Semantics. The only difference between saying you "believe" something and that you "know" something is your own perceived level of certainty. You can believe something and be correct, you can "know" something and be wrong.
And on this, none of us can be certain for a couple of reasons:

1) I'm not an expert on climate science, all I can do is read stuff and trust that they know what they're talking about
2) Science changes all the time as more data is gathered. People used to "know" that the sun went around the earth.


The climate has always changed, but the cultists need to convince people this is something new and unrelated to four billion years of nature's progress.
Why must you always use such pejorative language and insist there's some ulterior motive behind everything?
From the things I've read the majority of climate scientists believe that the climate is changing in a way unprecedented in modern history and that a factor in that is our actions over the last century.
I watched a good documentary about it all which went through the history of the debate about this in science, but the idea of man-made climate change now seems pretty well accepted.


Suddenly the vast majority must pay the tiny minority a large amount of money because... computer models.
Well, no. Because the climate has demonstrably changed and because extreme weather events are happening at an increasing rate:
https://www.ft.com/content/9a647a51-ede8-480e-ba78-cbf14ad878b7
This is stuff that is actually happening now. And those are costly to sort out. So what's better? Spending money on trying to stop the effects of climate change or spending money dealing with the consequences? I think you could have a reasonable debate about that actually but either is costly, just going "la la la, isn't happening" doesn't seem like a very sensible option.


You could show them hard data, like the huge acreage of forest burn in the past compared to the much reduced amount today, but they will still tell you the world is on fire. You can point to the plains of America where not a blade of grass could be glimpsed for the endless herd of buffalo, but the smaller herds of domestic cows now fart to such an extent that the trace amounts of methane in the atmosphere will surely kill us all. Or you can show them water levels in a thousand ports across the globe and how they have maintained a remarkable constancy across decades or even centuries, but they will still tell you the world is set to drown - like the poor Maldives that disappeared beneath the waves... never. None of it reaches these people because they don't know anything but they do "believe" so much.
Well, sure. Please do show the hard data. I'm always asking you for sources. I looked into the first of your claims above and you're right:

https://royalsociety.org/blog/2020/10/global-trends-wildfire/


when considering the total area burned at the global level, we are still not seeing an overall increase, but rather a decline over the last decades. This has been confirmed in a series of subsequent studies, using data up to 2017 or 2018.
This may sound counter-intuitive. The global decrease is mostly driven by less fire in savannahs and grasslands, mainly in Africa, but also in South America and Australia. In quantitative terms, fire in those grassy ecosystems account for around 70% of the total global area burnt, so the reduction in fire activity here outweighs the increase in burned area that we are seeing in other parts of the world.

Hooray! We're not doomed after all. Oh, except...


The decline in global average area burned has indeed been misused to support false claims numerous times. There is strong evidence that the increase in fire activity we are seeing in many forested regions is indeed linked to climate change. Even the decrease in fire in tropical savannas that we just mentioned does not mean that climate change is not having an impact there too; actually, quite the opposite. This reduction has been in part attributed to conversion of savanna to agricultural land but, also, to shifting rainfall patterns that reduce the overall flammability of grasslands.

So... :shrug:

[Mac76]

Your response carefully avoids any of the things I mentioned that interfere with your indoctrination. Then you reverse the argument and accuse "fools" like me of behaving in the way I criticised a believer for, as if I'm the one who made the original comment. Your mind is so fucked you can't hold a two sentence argument together.

Try reading my post too, as i said I'm not a 'believer', see that's the anti-science brigade imposing language on others again, you are a fool as you refuse to accept things when the evidence is right there in front of you

[Niall_Quinn]

Email du jour:

"We're getting in touch because your domain name Domain: goonersweb.co.uk is due for renewal within 30 days."

Time to finally pull the plug? It has been on life support for a while now :(

And there's no football team to support any more, just the horror show that has replaced it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Try reading my post too, as i said I'm not a 'believer', see that's the anti-science brigade imposing language on others again, you are a fool as you refuse to accept things when the evidence is right there in front of you

Evidence is whatever you want it to be these days, reflected best by the growing concern in the scientific community about agenda driven research. History is a much less controversial guide, until it gets rewritten at least. You can still dig through newspaper archives and find everything you need to expose the climate scam. Not that you would do such a thing as you prefer to let others do your thinking for you so you can simply repeat. The fucking mess people like you have made is unbelievable. You look at a world falling around your ears and call out everything you are instructed to blame. Racism, sexism, warmism, the cult of covid, anything that drives division and makes big money for the few. Yet the real issues aren't ever mentioned and it's doubtful you even know what they are. You're so dumb you can't even fathom the authoritarianism you champion is absolutely the worst way to go about securing the so-called diversity you claim to welcome. You have to be committed to be so determinedly blind to history.

[Niall_Quinn]

Semantics. The only difference between saying you "believe" something and that you "know" something is your own perceived level of certainty...
Hooray! We're not doomed after all. Oh, except...
So... :shrug:

Fuck me, it's impossible isn't it? Well yes, you checked the first item and the acreage is MASSIVELY reduced globally. BUT, no it's not... because climate change. And that's the warmist argument in a nutshell - the models are all wrong (every single one of them proved wrong over and over again), the history bears no resemblance to the wild claims (such as your utterly false assertion that severe weather patterns have increased - it's the opposite), but... ignore everything and just accept the word of the very same fuckers who have been wrong, wrong and wrong again. Some of these arseholes had civilisation ending in an ice age not so long ago. Then they had more imaginary catastrophes when the oil ran out. Fucking huge global glut of the stuff as we speak, 50 years after it was supposed to be gone. The same cunts who won't even listen to their own mates when a word of honesty escapes into the discussion - ask Michael Moore who had his documentary pulled for a split second "copyright violation".

What you can't seem to wrap your head around is yes, the climate is changing as it always does, yes mankind is a polluting species that is making a shithole out of the planet, but no, we can't do a fucking think about the climate because we in no way control or influence that, but yes we could do plenty about pollution but nobody gives a fuck because that would cost corporate cunts money. Instead we talk about global regulatory bodies, further restrictions on our liberties and big costs for us, big profits for them based on junk science, propaganda and endless, easily disprovable lies.

We SHOULD do more for our planet - no doubt. But we should not hand the responsibility over to serial criminals to manage and enforce because, as always, their intentions are wicked and self interested as they have shown every other time.

If you really want to keep supporting the convergence of the covid scam and warmism at least stop for a moment to think of where that might deliver you. If you think it's a 100% healthy world that controls the climate of an entire planet you really must have a screw loose. Think about it. Think about how preposterous the stupid and outlandish claims being made by these criminals really are. They'll save you from viruses and command the sun? Fuck me, that's worse than the weirdest religious teachings.

[Globalgunner]

Climate change is an undeniable fact. Its precursor is population explosion. If there are too many Badgers we cull them. If there are too many rats we exterminate. Human beings with their insatiable need for energy and the multinationals who are all too happy to provide it by any means are killing us all slowly. Nobody in power wants to stand up and state the facts. We need to defuse our population bomb which has tripled since 1900. We cant go on this way. Those who can afford it are already preparing for Armageddon. The rest of us have our eyes closed, ears plugged, pretending that it isnt happening. Agent Smith was so right. "Humans are a virus"

[Niall_Quinn]

Climate change is an undeniable fact. Its precursor is population explosion. If there are too many Badgers we cull them. If there are too many rats we exterminate. Human beings with their insatiable need for energy and the multinationals who are all too happy to provide it by any means are killing us all slowly. Nobody in power wants to stand up and state the facts. We need to defuse our population bomb which has tripled since 1900. We cant go on this way. Those who can afford it are already preparing for Armageddon. The rest of us have our eyes closed, ears plugged, pretending that it isnt happening. Agent Smith was so right. "Humans are a virus"

The population bomb is another myth. Used to disguise the poverty bomb. We COULD easily support the current global population and much higher levels if need be. But that would need a shift to equality based thinking and action rather than what we currently have, the exploitative model. What is it now? 1% of the population controls 40% of the wealth? Probably more like 50% following the covid scam. Do you know how cheap it would be to eradicate poverty compared to the huge investments we make in the business of exploitation?

Every single "crisis" that goes mainstream is an excuse and misdirection from the vile behaviour of the same suspects. And even when you see through it and call them out they'll say hey, it's human nature. Well that's a myth too. Humans are cooperative given the chance. That's how we've even made it this far. Despite the demons in our midst.

[Globalgunner]

You are conflating wealth with resources. Taking away Jeff Bezos wealth wont reduce the CO2 In the atmosphere.
Making more people millionaires instantly will make things even worse. They will take more expensive holidays and buy more Ferraris. A middle income family with 3 kids and another with 6. Who will have the better standard of living?. Or is it now the job of government ie everybody else's taxes to pay for his 6 kids and build them houses. Bezos wouldn't be half as rich if there weren't so.many of us ready to buy the crap he is shifting around the planet.. Open your eyes. You think this planet can sustain 20b or 30b people if only millionaires would give up their wealth. Our mere existence guarantee their increased wealth. I thought you hated communism. It sounds like that's what you are advocating here

[Niall_Quinn]

You are conflating wealth with resources. Taking away Jeff Bezos wealth wont reduce the CO2 In the atmosphere.
Making more people millionaires instantly will make things even worse. They will take more expensive holidays and buy more Ferraris. A middle income family with 3 kids and another with 6. Who will have the better standard of living?. Or is it now the job of government ie everybody else's taxes to pay for his 6 kids and build them houses. Bezos wouldn't be half as rich if there weren't so.many of us ready to buy the crap he is shifting around the planet.. Open your eyes. You think this planet can sustain 20b or 30b people if only millionaires would give up their wealth. Our mere existence guarantee their increased wealth. I thought you hated communism. It sounds like that's what you are advocating here

Well I didn't say any of that did I? And wealth IS resources, not worthless currency. Who gets to share in the abundant resources of the planet? What tasks are labour turned to? What's the role of technology? What's the role of science, and education? Right now all of these endeavours have been hijacked to support the agendas of the controlling classes, and I don't mean stupid politicians who claw their way onto the stage. I'm talking about generational control, corporations with more rights than human beings. Bezos himself isn't the problem or solution, either way. The practices he (or anyone like him) can deploy to gain exploitative control over resources and human beings are the problem. The two tier legal system. The corrupted political systems. We exist in a state where we are advised none of these problems can be addressed because people are fundamentally selfish and bad and "we'd all do it if we could." But there's only the evidence of bad people to support that theory, and the silence of the rest which is another huge problem. We've been tricked into thinking there is only ever one solution to every problem, giving more control to fewer individuals while we relinquish our own responsibilities.

Btw, why on earth would we want to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere (as if we actually could)? You realise plants require it to live and thrive? And we're in a CO2 sparse era right now. Assuming you don't simply want to shoot the alleged excess population, won't they need to be fed? How is starving plant growth going to assist with that?

[Globalgunner]

This is a science question, not about politics. Nature needs balance and humans have tipped the equation so badly. Most if not every scientist out there agrees that greenhouse gases are a problem Yet you say Nah, they are actually a good thing. The composition of the lower atmosphere we breath is pretty much accepted as being 79% Nitrogen and about 19% Oxygen. The CO2 and others are less than 2% but are highly significant. Trees wont thrive in a high CO2 environment because they dont need that much of it. The problem is CO2 is a heat incubator. Its literally a blanket thrown over the whole planet. Bottom line is I believe my scientists and you can believe yours. Humans are creating the surplus of CO2. Nature will make a balance in terrifying ways if we dont learn to live within our natural laws

[Niall_Quinn]

This is a science question, not about politics. Nature needs balance and humans have tipped the equation so badly. Most if not every scientist out there agrees that greenhouse gases are a problem Yet you say Nah, they are actually a good thing. The composition of the lower atmosphere we breath is pretty much accepted as being 79% Nitrogen and about 19% Oxygen. The CO2 and others are less than 2% but are highly significant. Trees wont thrive in a high CO2 environment because they dont need that much of it. The problem is CO2 is a heat incubator. Its literally a blanket thrown over the whole planet. Bottom line is I believe my scientists and you can believe yours. Humans are creating the surplus of CO2. Nature will make a balance in terrifying ways if we dont learn to live within our natural laws

Simply not true that most scientists agree in the climate scam. There have been studies that misrepresented their views and roped them into a "consensus", which of course is simply not relevant if we are talking science. Real science as opposed to the political science you hint I shouldn't talk about.

I accept the work of scientists that can demonstrate their hypothesis by performing repeatable experimentation and verifying their results using mathematical principles. I don't have any time for "scientists" that extrapolate their theories into the future, have those theories destroyed by reality, ignore the outcome and extrapolate further. The MO of the climate scam. Never once have they predicted anything that bears any resemblance to the measurable reality - go and check this for yourself. Ice melting? No. Sea levels rising? No? Temperature rising? No. The last one you'll probably take most offence at because they have all their shitty graphs. Do you know how they build those graphs? They have temperature monitors in strategic locations across the globe. And then they have "virtual" sensors that are generated by models that have a 100% failure rate. 100% - look it up. They simply tune their virtual sensors to get the results they need and then they build their graphs. It's not science, it's fraud. Not me saying it - they said it themselves when they were caught red handed. But the media is corrupt, as any sensible person realises. So they get away with it.

But I'm digging into one specific of a thousand. The strands of fraud are extensive, but pull on any one of them and real data from the past comprehensively debunks all of this new stupidity.

It's a big subject so you dip in here and there because you can't cover it all. Rest assured though, wherever you do probe you will find the most blatant fraud. This shouldn't come as a surprise to you now you've experienced the covid scam? It will, of course, consume stupid people but I would expect anyone with functioning minds to quickly see through it.

Let's put it another way.

The world will end in 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030, 2040 and so on, right? Everywhere flooded, volcanos blasting the planet, hurricanes, unicorns farting lightning. OR, that won't happen. I wonder - based on the actual evidence of the past and the nonsense these tossers have been spouting all along - what do you thing will actually happen?

Like I said, we have a lot to do to keep our own environments in good shape. The horrors of pollution, poverty, socialism, etc. But everyone rushing to make rich people richer based on fairy tales is not the best option.

[Niall_Quinn]

Btw - did you watch Moore's doc? You should. I mention him because he's a fat socialist piece of shit but even he isn't buying into the nonsense. So the cultists turned on him. Watch the behaviour of these warmism extremists and that will tell you a lot too. Warmism is a top down agenda. The most fanatical drive the talking points and the repeaters go to work.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Read a few stories in the news recently about salaries and how perhaps those working at home should be paid less as not spending on the commute etc.

If you are working at home majority of the time, i can see how an argument could be made to get rid of London weighting given that those extra costs are not being incurred as presumably msot living outside of london.

However, the one argument that makes me laugh is how the pay should be cut because of the commuting costs saving as if pay is linked to commuting. Most years rail fares have increased by more then wages and yet you dont see those wanting the pay cuts arguing for pay increase to match the rail fare increase :lol:

[Globalgunner]

There are other issues too. If you are working from home then in addition you need to spend less on your wardrobe. However unless you are given a company laptop, You should be paid for using your own and the added wifi costs. MY wife`s company has been paying her a tidy sum each month for phone bills emanating from all the calls and conference meetings she has had to do from home Not withstanding the fact that we already have an unlimited wifi package at home for everyone to use. The telecoms companies will soon be revising their deals Im sure. Less commuting is also great for the environment

[Letters]

We have working at home contracts in our place where you don't get the London allowance but you do get money to help set up a home office and for things like heating and electric bills. I don't have one as I've never worked at home regularly before the world ended. It'll be interesting to see how they handle things going forward. I can't see myself going back to the office more than a couple of times a week at most but they'll be taking my London allowance out of my cold dead hands.

[Mac76]

As someone who effectively took a pay cut some years ago by stepping off the career ladder to work independently it does annoy me a bit that some people have done well over the last year and a half where they've carried on working at full pay and not had the commute or to buy lunch in town etc, if i was ab employer i'd certainly tell anyone asking for a pay rise where to go and yes if you're a big employer who's now got most people working from home you'd have a case to reduce pay to count for those things

[Letters]

Hmm. But surely your salary reflects your skills and what they’re worth in the market place.
I shouldn’t get paid differently because I have a shorter and cheaper commute.

A bone of contention at our place was that a lot of people were furloughed and the organisation were topping up their salaries. So they were getting 100% pay, not working and they were accruing leave.
Meanwhile people still working were having to cover for the furloughed people. It caused quite a lot of resentment. Technically people should not have been furloughed if they still had work to do, but that’s what happened. I was never furloughed and I never had to cover for anyone but I can understand the irritation of people trying to do 2 jobs while others were off on full pay.

[Mac76]

London weighting is exactly that - it's extra pay to account for commuting and buying expensive sandwiches for lunch.

Take away those costs and people are saving hundreds a year

[Letters]

But I think it’s supposed to reflect the general cost of living in London.
Part of that is commuting and yes, I have saved money while not doing that.
But I still live in London which is expensive.
I guess it’s fair to say that if I’m living out in the sticks but working at home then I shouldn’t get the London weighting. Which is how it works if you have a working at home contract.
The issue at our place is we have some people who don’t officially work at home but we basically never saw them so in effect they did. It wasn’t policed very well.
I guess I am now one of those, but obviously things have been different over the last 18 months and for now they’re still asking people to work at home.

[Ollie the Optimist]

As someone who effectively took a pay cut some years ago by stepping off the career ladder to work independently it does annoy me a bit that some people have done well over the last year and a half where they've carried on working at full pay and not had the commute or to buy lunch in town etc, if i was ab employer i'd certainly tell anyone asking for a pay rise where to go and yes if you're a big employer who's now got most people working from home you'd have a case to reduce pay to count for those things

Isn’t that the thing though, salaries are not based on commute costs.

For example, if you have someone working in city on a salary of 50k but live in Chelmsford, their annual season ticket is 4K. Same example but for someone living in Colchester, their ticket is 5k. Do you then either pay them an extra 1k or cut their pay by an extra 1k compared to the worker in Chelmsford?

While commuting costs, lunches have been a factor in pay decisions, pay is not based on that. People dont get pay rises based on season ticket increases which often outstrip wage inflation so to me argument of reducing it because of commuting becomes reduced.

[Globalgunner]

The whole world and business needs to look again at their business practices. For instance if you work for a bank and live in Watford. Why would your office ask you to work in the City when they have branches right there in Watford. if they did that they would be in their rights to pay you less and you too would be better off for it because you would be spending less. Spending 20 mins to get to work instead of 1 1/2 hours. Too many people living in London doing jobs that could just as effectively be executed remotely. All those giant buildings empty at night could be half converted to apartment buildings for people who work maybe in the same building or a walking distance away. thus easing the housing shortage. Does HSBC or Natwest really need 50 floors of people staring at laptops to function effectively? This pandemic has given humanity an opportunity to change the whole paradigm of our existence.....its more likely that we go back to messing things up just the way we were doing it before. Im a design engineer and have only entered my offices 8 times in the last 18 months. Yes Ive suffered from reduced billable hours but Id take that for not having to go back to the way things were. Only problem is ive probably gained 5kg in the same period. That damn fridge is always in my line of sight.

[Mac76]

I can only say again that London weighting is exactly that - you're paid more for WORKING in London, regardless of where you live.

So a London-weighted salaryis paying more to account for commuting, lunches etc as well as admittedly accomodation too

But i get your point re ticket price inflation though

[Letters]

You're basically right, but the London weighting has never been adjusted in my 10 years in this job.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Sean Lock has died from cancer.

Loved him on the 8 out of 10 cats, always brilliantly funny

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Ah shame that, I did like him.

As always, fuck Cancer.

[Letters]

Well yes, you checked the first item and the acreage is MASSIVELY reduced globally. BUT, no it's not... because climate change
Dude, come on. You're straw manning. That's not what's being said.
The acreage IS reduced BUT that doesn't contradict the view that the climate is changing and that the change is caused, at least in part, by human activity.
If you look at the article you'll note that acreage in itself is not a very useful metric, it's more complicated than that. Climate change is causing more of some types of fires and less of others.
And sure, the press focus on the former and I agree they dwell on the catastrophe porn, but that doesn't mean the underlying point - that the climate is changing and that's a bad thing - is wrong.


the models are all wrong (every single one of them proved wrong over and over again)
Even if that's true - it probably is true, they can't even predict the weather next week, let alone in 50 years - we're talking about things which are actually happening now.


your utterly false assertion that severe weather patterns have increased - it's the opposite
Can you elaborate on this? I mean, first link I found, admittedly, but I found a few articles claiming things like this:
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/extreme-weather-events-have-increased-significantly-in-the-last-20-years


ignore everything and just accept the word of the very same fuckers who have been wrong, wrong and wrong again. Some of these arseholes had civilisation ending in an ice age not so long ago. Then they had more imaginary catastrophes when the oil ran out. Fucking huge global glut of the stuff as we speak, 50 years after it was supposed to be gone.

I suspect it's different "fuckers" who were talking about the oil running out than the ones who are talking about climate change. But, again, the climate changing is an observable fact. Oil running out...well obviously that's going to happen at some point. Just because it will happen later than was predicted - which of course can happen if new reserves are found - doesn't change the fact that there's clearly not an infinite amount of it so at some point it will surely run out. Which I'd suggest is something we should be preparing ourselves for.


What you can't seem to wrap your head around is yes, the climate is changing as it always does, yes mankind is a polluting species that is making a shithole out of the planet, but no, we can't do a fucking think about the climate because we in no way control or influence that
It's not about whether I can wrap my head around it, it's just that's not what climate scientists are saying. They could be wrong of course, but I'm not an expert in this. Nor, I would suggest, are you.

The error you make on a lot of topics is that you seem to only be able to think in extremes. I don't want to dwell on Wenger again [insert reply about how yes I do here], but it was a good example. It didn't seem possible for you to believe that Wenger was still a basically good manager who had lost his edge and his methods, once revolutionary, were actually now not fit for purpose. Anything ahead of its time ceases to be so given enough time passing if not updated. No, to you he had to suddenly be the worst manager in football. And anyone (mostly me) who thought different clearly wanted him to be our manager for ever and ever and thought he could do no wrong. Only one extreme or the other seemed possible to you. No nuance. No shades of grey.

You're doing the same here. The thought that the media dwell on the extremes is a valid one. They focus on the wild fires, on the extremes of predictions in any reports.
Rather than concluding that there is a real situation, but the media exaggerate it and focus on the most extreme predictions of doom, you have to believe that the whole thing is a fraud.

The climate has changed since I was a kid. I don't need graphs to tell me that, I just remember how cold it was when I was young.
Whether we can do anything about it - as in whether there's really the political will to do enough to change it - probably not.

[Letters]

Sean Lock has died from cancer.

Loved him on the 8 out of 10 cats, always brilliantly funny

What the fuck?!

[Ollie the Optimist]

He obviously kept it very quiet as Lee Mack said him a statement that he knew this day was coming.

[Letters]

As always, fuck Cancer.

Correct. Would love to have seen him live doing standup :(

[Ollie the Optimist]

https://youtu.be/9TPG80boMjY

This one always makes me laugh :lol:

[Mac76]

He was a genuinely original and funny guy, that's a real shame, RIP

[Letters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E

:lol:

[LDG]

Genuinely so sad at Sean Lock’s passing. He is one of the “panel” I found properly funny.

Fuck cancer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Dude, come on. You're straw manning. That's not what's being said.
The acreage IS reduced BUT that doesn't contradict the view that the climate is changing and that the change is caused, at least in part, by human activity.
If you look at the article you'll note that acreage in itself is not a very useful metric, it's more complicated than that. Climate change is causing more of some types of fires and less of others.
And sure, the press focus on the former and I agree they dwell on the catastrophe porn, but that doesn't mean the underlying point - that the climate is changing and that's a bad thing - is wrong.


Even if that's true - it probably is true, they can't even predict the weather next week, let alone in 50 years - we're talking about things which are actually happening now.


Can you elaborate on this? I mean, first link I found, admittedly, but I found a few articles claiming things like this:
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/extreme-weather-events-have-increased-significantly-in-the-last-20-years



I suspect it's different "fuckers" who were talking about the oil running out than the ones who are talking about climate change. But, again, the climate changing is an observable fact. Oil running out...well obviously that's going to happen at some point. Just because it will happen later than was predicted - which of course can happen if new reserves are found - doesn't change the fact that there's clearly not an infinite amount of it so at some point it will surely run out. Which I'd suggest is something we should be preparing ourselves for.


It's not about whether I can wrap my head around it, it's just that's not what climate scientists are saying. They could be wrong of course, but I'm not an expert in this. Nor, I would suggest, are you.

The error you make on a lot of topics is that you seem to only be able to think in extremes. I don't want to dwell on Wenger again [insert reply about how yes I do here], but it was a good example. It didn't seem possible for you to believe that Wenger was still a basically good manager who had lost his edge and his methods, once revolutionary, were actually now not fit for purpose. Anything ahead of its time ceases to be so given enough time passing if not updated. No, to you he had to suddenly be the worst manager in football. And anyone (mostly me) who thought different clearly wanted him to be our manager for ever and ever and thought he could do no wrong. Only one extreme or the other seemed possible to you. No nuance. No shades of grey.

You're doing the same here. The thought that the media dwell on the extremes is a valid one. They focus on the wild fires, on the extremes of predictions in any reports.
Rather than concluding that there is a real situation, but the media exaggerate it and focus on the most extreme predictions of doom, you have to believe that the whole thing is a fraud.

The climate has changed since I was a kid. I don't need graphs to tell me that, I just remember how cold it was when I was young.
Whether we can do anything about it - as in whether there's really the political will to do enough to change it - probably not.

It's amazing you can believe in the climate scam, which is supposedly a cumulative process that promotes a predictably and increasingly dire outcome, but you could never grasp the consequences of Wenger's mismanagement. The former is demonstrably false, the latter was as real as it gets. You believe the exact opposite.

Meanwhile, I can see you making an effort to be conciliatory and enquiring and that's a good thing and it's appreciated. But I'm way past caring now. If I can't convince you of the very basics, using very basic logic, then what point is there arguing the fallacious detail? I said climate is changing - obvious. I said pollution is real. I said the very same criminals who are causing all the problems are the ones offering the solutions and therefore should be shunned. It's very, very basic stuff. I'm all for a green planet but you need CO2 to make that happen. I'm all for responsible behaviour, but you have to appreciate scale to understand how insignificant we really are in terms of a planetary measure. Once you get the maths, the climate scam becomes as laughable as it is hysterical. Suggest you have a quick run through geology 101 to get a notion of the scales we are talking about. And trace the fraudsters graphs beyond the cutoff point (on EVERY issue) to see just how far away we are from a climate catastrophe these nutters keep predicting, and keep getting wrong.

How many times would they have to get it wrong before you doubted them?

You can't fight religious zeal. Unless you have a sword.

[Letters]

It's amazing you can believe in the climate scam, which is supposedly a cumulative process that promotes a predictably and increasingly dire outcome, but you could never grasp the consequences of Wenger's mismanagement. The former is demonstrably false, the latter was as real as it gets.
I have already pointed out how you said that things would get better immediately after Wenger, you said we should be challenging for the title in 2 years.
It always amazes me how you make a prediction, the exact opposite happens and you contrive to say "See? Told ya!"
:blink:


If I can't convince you of the very basics, using very basic logic, then what point is there arguing the fallacious detail?
All you're doing is making claims. You provide no evidence for them, no data to back them up. I've always been willing to entertain other points of view but you so rarely provide any substance to your assertions.


I said climate is changing - obvious.

You said "Temperature rising? No"
And you said I made an "utterly false assertion that severe weather patterns have increased - it's the opposite". I subsequently provided a source for my assertion, you have provided none for yours.


How many times would they have to get it wrong before you doubted them?
It depends how you define them "getting it wrong". They don't seem to have done too bad:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/12/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming

But hey, feel free to provide your own source. My guess is you are quibbling about some detail which was got wrong and ignoring the over-riding point.
They predicted the earth would warm up. It has done, noticeably and measurably.

[WMUG]

I do like working from home.

I'm at my parents' house at the moment, working in a spare room. Work day ends, I'm at theirs, in London and I don't have to take annual leave or anything.

A while back I went to see my uncle in Newcastle.

Set up in his office, had the evening with him and his boys.

Gives you lots of flexibility.

[Letters]

There are definite advantages.
I had a play date in a local park with our boy and a mate and his girls. Didn't book any time off, just blocked out the time in my work diary and went.
I reckon I do enough extra hours to justify stuff like that.
I like the social aspect of work and reckon I'll go in a couple of days a week when more people do, but my mindset about all this has definitely shifted. It helps that we have the room here for me to have an actual office space which is set up quite nicely. I feel for people cooped up in small flats trying to work with children around!

[WMUG]

Yeah when me and my girlfriend are both WFH she has to take the "office" which is just a storage cupboard off our bedroom which is less than ideal.

I do kinda miss the social side as well, especially being relatively new to the city.

We're looking at buying a house soon though, so if it can continue, the space problem should take care of itself, and I'm starting to make some friends in Manchester anyway.

[Letters]

Lock :bow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9IRpFGgPY

[LDG]

Been watching clips all day. Such a talented bloke. The art of timing, being over the line, but adored. Not many manage it.

“I promise I won’t spit on your back when we have sex tonight” :haha:

[Letters]

:blink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914

Do what? Isn't that the entire point of that site?
Er, I mean...so I've heard :ninja:

[Letters]

Holy shit will you stop being so incompetent!

Dude asked me to send him a report yesterday of <insert boring details here>. So I did.
He came back to me this morning saying there was a duplicate and could I check I hadn't made a typo.

I did wonder if I'd made an error in my query but it seemed unlikely, I'm very clever you know.
So I spent some time checking. All looked good at my end. Then I noticed that the file I'd sent him didn't even contain the duplicate.

So clearly he buggered something up. Then sent me a screenshot of the file he buggered up and said could I look in to it.
No, you wanker. You stop being so useless!

Now he's pinging me saying the numbers I sent him don't match his numbers. Which is because I filtered the report as agreed and I made that clear in my email when I sent the report

STOP
WASTING
MY
TIME
YOU
INCOMPETENT
PRICK!

Aaaaargh!

:fury:

[dazthegooner]

Other than that how was your morning? :)

[Letters]

:lol:

Apart from that it was fine thanks :d

[Niall_Quinn]

Holy shit will you stop being so incompetent!

Dude asked me to send him a report yesterday of <insert boring details here>. So I did.
He came back to me this morning saying there was a duplicate and could I check I hadn't made a typo.

I did wonder if I'd made an error in my query but it seemed unlikely, I'm very clever you know.
So I spent some time checking. All looked good at my end. Then I noticed that the file I'd sent him didn't even contain the duplicate.

So clearly he buggered something up. Then sent me a screenshot of the file he buggered up and said could I look in to it.
No, you wanker. You stop being so useless!

Now he's pinging me saying the numbers I sent him don't match his numbers. Which is because I filtered the report as agreed and I made that clear in my email when I sent the report

STOP
WASTING
MY
TIME
YOU
INCOMPETENT
PRICK!

Aaaaargh!

:fury:

The level your mind operates at is fascinating. I didn't know a biological system could be so trivial yet manage complex tasks like breathing, walking and chewing gum.

[Niall_Quinn]

I have already pointed out how you said that things would get better immediately after Wenger, you said we should be challenging for the title in 2 years.
It always amazes me how you make a prediction, the exact opposite happens and you contrive to say "See? Told ya!"
:blink:


All you're doing is making claims. You provide no evidence for them, no data to back them up. I've always been willing to entertain other points of view but you so rarely provide any substance to your assertions.



You said "Temperature rising? No"
And you said I made an "utterly false assertion that severe weather patterns have increased - it's the opposite". I subsequently provided a source for my assertion, you have provided none for yours.


It depends how you define them "getting it wrong". They don't seem to have done too bad:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/12/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming

But hey, feel free to provide your own source. My guess is you are quibbling about some detail which was got wrong and ignoring the over-riding point.
They predicted the earth would warm up. It has done, noticeably and measurably.

Yeah, I said anyone could do a better job than Wenger. I didn't claim it would be easy to undo the damage he did. In fact I said it would turn us into mid-table also-rans. So I guess, "I told you so." But rewrite whatever you need to in order to make your point.

[Letters]

In fact I said it would turn us into mid-table also-rans. So I guess, "I told you so." But rewrite whatever you need to in order to make your point.

I must have misunderstood you when you said:


Yep. A serious title challenge within 2 years or out and get the next guy.

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4161&page=39

:coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

I must have misunderstood you when you said:



http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4161&page=39

:coffee:

Yet again, the words are crystal clear but the comprehension skills are blurry. Which bit are you struggling with? Bring a new guy in, if he succeeds keep him, if he fails fire him. The exact opposite of the long, painful Wenger departure that dragged the club to the depths.

What is it you are trying to suggest or prove here? That we should have simply persisted with Wenger. Because he's your dad?

[Letters]

Yet again, the words are crystal clear but the comprehension skills are blurry. Which bit are you struggling with? Bring a new guy in, if he succeeds keep him, if he fails fire him. The exact opposite of the long, painful Wenger departure that dragged the club to the depths.
I'm not struggling with any of that. And I agree. I was a bit late to the party, admittedly, but yes any new manager doesn't have any of the history Wenger had so is easier to get rid of if he doesn't deliver.


What is it you are trying to suggest or prove here? That we should have simply persisted with Wenger. Because he's your dad?
It's interesting that you question my comprehension skills above and yet you don't seem to understand that this exchange isn't about Wenger. It's about you.
It's about your bizarre ability to predict a thing, see the exact opposite of that thing happen and then say "told ya!"

Let me lay out all the quotes in a row, see if that helps.
I said:


You said we should be challenging for the title in 2 years.

That was my example of you making a prediction. Can we agree that here we are, more than 2 years after Wenger and we have not challenged for the title? I would suggest a challenge this year is unlikely.
You responded:


In fact I said it would turn us into mid-table also-rans.

So I found the post where you said exactly what I claimed you said:


Yep. A serious title challenge within 2 years or out and get the next guy.

You say above "Bring a new guy in, if he succeeds keep him, if he fails fire him". Fine. But in that post you define what success looks like.
Now you're claiming that you predicted all along that "it would turn us into mid-table also-rans".
If that's true then why suggest that a new manager should be judged on the basis of whether we were title challengers within 2 years?

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm not struggling with any of that. And I agree. I was a bit late to the party, admittedly, but yes any new manager doesn't have any of the history Wenger had so is easier to get rid of if he doesn't deliver.


It's interesting that you question my comprehension skills above and yet you don't seem to understand that this exchange isn't about Wenger. It's about you.
It's about your bizarre ability to predict a thing, see the exact opposite of that thing happen and then say "told ya!"

Let me lay out all the quotes in a row, see if that helps.
I said:



That was my example of you making a prediction. Can we agree that here we are, more than 2 years after Wenger and we have not challenged for the title? I would suggest a challenge this year is unlikely.
You responded:



So I found the post where you said exactly what I claimed you said:



You say above "Bring a new guy in, if he succeeds keep him, if he fails fire him". Fine. But in that post you define what success looks like.
Now you're claiming that you predicted all along that "it would turn us into mid-table also-rans".
If that's true then why suggest that a new manager should be judged on the basis of whether we were title challengers within 2 years?

Seriously though. What?

It's so easy to determine what I'm saying. Is this some bullshit attempt to imply what I said is not what I said, even though you quoted it?

Let me restate it, though I doubt that will help people like you.

Wenger did, indeed, turn the club into mid-table also-rans, exactly as predicted. Not that it was in any way a difficult prediction to make. It was as obvious as it was inevitable. That's because, at that moment in time, Wenger was the worst football manager on planet earth. Only he could have taken us 180 degrees in such catastrophic fashion. Even a fan dragged out of the seats could have done a better job because Wenger was consumed by his own failure by that point, and he was totally unwilling to take a step back. A couple more years and he would have easily had us relegated.

Meanwhile, I said bring in a new guy and if he doesn't have us challenging for a title in two years - sack him. The opposite to the Wenger trauma, don't hang around with losers. Let them prove they can do the job or let them get the fuck out.

Which part of this is in any way contradictory? re you so desperate to be right you have to start making up new definitions for English words?

[Niall_Quinn]

Wait a moment, I think I might be able to guess at the abstract apology you are trying to make on behalf of you dad Wenger.

You are maybe implying the damage he inflicted on this club ceased the moment he left? Not so. He baked a loser mentality into the club. Bent over and paved the way for the abusive bastards who run the club. He did everything possible to ensure the guy who replaced him had a monumental task. Maybe unfair to give him two years and then demand he compete, considering the Wenger effect. But maybe equally unfair this shitty club charges the highest rates to watch their shitty football. And maybe unfair managers get paid stupid amounts for being incapable. Real clubs demand results. Don't see why Arsenal should be any different, other than the problem of it not actually being a real club.

[Letters]

You are maybe implying the damage he inflicted on this club ceased the moment he left? Not so. He baked a loser mentality into the club. Bent over and paved the way for the abusive bastards who run the club. He did everything possible to ensure the guy who replaced him had a monumental task. Maybe unfair to give him two years and then demand he compete, considering the Wenger effect.
Great. So you've finally understood it.
When it was announced that Wenger was leaving you were giddy with excitement, said we'd be mixing it with teams like Chelsea and Spurs in no time. And you said you expected a title challenge in 2 years.
The exact opposite happened. We have got significantly worse than we ever were under Wenger.
Now you're pretending that this is what you predicted all along because of the "Wenger effect". But you didn't, you predicted the exact opposite - immediate improvement.

And just to be clear, I'm not picking you up on being wrong. I was wrong too, I didn't think we'd end up being this shit.
I'm picking you up on being wrong and then saying "told you so" when you predicted the exact opposite of what has happened.


Wait a moment, I think I might be able to guess at the abstract apology you are trying to make on behalf of you dad Wenger.
I honestly don't know how else to explain that this exchange is not about Wenger.
It's about you.

[Letters]

Charlie Watts :rose:

[WMUG]

Went to park run on Saturday, at the start they called out for anybody who knew any British Sign Language.

I ended up going up and meeting a deaf guy whose first time it was at Park run. Had a quick chat with him, introduced myself, ran with him for a bit to teach him the lay of the land.

Met up after the run, he came for coffee with me and the folks.

Turns out he's a teacher at the deaf school on the same campus as my secondary school, just moved down from Newcastle, where my uncle lives.

He taught me a few new signs, seemed like a lovely guy.

Was a lovely start to the weekend, pity arsenal had to go and spoil it all the next day.

[Mac76]

nice one - the bit in the park i mean not the match... :)

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58327844

:haha:

[Mac76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58327844

:haha:

and now he's made sure everyone knows who he is :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Great. So you've finally understood it.
When it was announced that Wenger was leaving you were giddy with excitement, said we'd be mixing it with teams like Chelsea and Spurs in no time. And you said you expected a title challenge in 2 years.
The exact opposite happened. We have got significantly worse than we ever were under Wenger.
Now you're pretending that this is what you predicted all along because of the "Wenger effect". But you didn't, you predicted the exact opposite - immediate improvement.

And just to be clear, I'm not picking you up on being wrong. I was wrong too, I didn't think we'd end up being this shit.
I'm picking you up on being wrong and then saying "told you so" when you predicted the exact opposite of what has happened.


I honestly don't know how else to explain that this exchange is not about Wenger.
It's about you.

Or alternatively, you have eventually become embarrassed at the way you fawned over Wenger regardless of the creeping reality. So now you have to accuse others of your behaviour so you have a crowd to hide in? Hard to know how you can take the words in a post you actually linked to and reach the exact opposite conclusion which, coincidentally no doubt, then allows you to blame others for your own failings.

[Letters]

Well that’s a whole lot of word salad.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well that’s a whole lot of word salad.

Which bit upset you most?

[Letters]

None of it upset me, it was pretty much gibberish.
But you have a couple of interesting abilities.
One is to predict one thing, see the exact opposite happen and then say "see, told ya so!".
And the second is to say quite a lot without actually saying anything. I guess it's a skill of sorts.

[Globalgunner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3omZOZs0&ab_channel=BylineTV

Brexit:bow::bow::bow:

[Letters]

You're clearly forgetting all the advantages like...er, blue passports and all that sovereignty!

[Niall_Quinn]

None of it upset me, it was pretty much gibberish.
But you have a couple of interesting abilities.
One is to predict one thing, see the exact opposite happen and then say "see, told ya so!".
And the second is to say quite a lot without actually saying anything. I guess it's a skill of sorts.

There's a difference between it actually being gibberish and you claiming it is. The words are clear. As I said, you linked to the post. So read it. Then read your response. A rather vivid demonstration of how dishonest you are.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3omZOZs0&ab_channel=BylineTV

Brexit:bow::bow::bow:

First car plant ever to close.

They'll all be closed soon enough as personal transport is phased out.

[Niall_Quinn]

You're clearly forgetting all the advantages like...er, blue passports and all that sovereignty!

Aren't you one of those sycophants waving flags for the great vaccine rollout? Of course Brexit has nothing to do with it, but by your logic we should be claiming Brexit has literally saved thousands, hell let's make it millions, from certain death.

Brexit :bow:

Almost as good as fucked up, selective attribution.

[Letters]

There's a difference between it actually being gibberish and you claiming it is.
Ah, so you do understand that there's a difference between you saying things and those things being true. Well I guess that's progress.


Oh and yes, I have already acknowledged that Brexit has helped us with the vaccine rollout. :good:

[GP]

Ah, so you do understand that there's a difference between you saying things and those things being true. Well I guess that's progress.


Oh and yes, I have already acknowledged that Brexit has helped us with the vaccine rollout. :good:

It didn't though.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ah, so you do understand that there's a difference between you saying things and those things being true. Well I guess that's progress.

Now that's gibberish when you trace the conversation back. Another lame reflection. But, I suppose, you achieved your objective in moving us several posts down the thread.


Oh and yes, I have already acknowledged that Brexit has helped us with the vaccine rollout. :good:

This is why I call you stupid.

[Xhaka Can’t]

You're clearly forgetting all the advantages like...er, blue passports and all that sovereignty!

I got a cheap bottle of Black Bush and was able to use my Canadian Passport at the automated entry gates.

So there’s that as well.

[Mac76]

RIP Charlie Watts btw :rose:

[Letters]

:ninja:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU

[Niall_Quinn]

Quick one designed to confuse the woke brigade. Or short-circuit them, because confusion implies free thought.

Is Elon Musk a good guy or a bad guy? Or maybe just an onside and tolerable guy?

My opinion. He's mentally unstable and evil at the core, with delusions of morality which he views as useful stepping stones to persuade a majority of very stupid people.

Anyone who thinks AI is a good thing is the epitome of evil. Although they may not be smart enough to know it.

[Letters]

AI is just a tool. It isn’t good or bad, it can be used for either.

[Globalgunner]

AI is just a tool. It isn’t good or bad, it can be used for either.

Not sure about that. Ive seen the latest Boston Dynamics robots doing parkour without any tether. It genuinely worries me

[Letters]

Yes, I’ve seen some of those videos.
It’s like those guys have never seen the Terminator films :doh:
They do look a bit scary although I think right now they aren’t quite as impressive as those videos make out - they are sales pitches, after all.
There are certainly potential dangers here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not sure about that. Ive seen the latest Boston Dynamics robots doing parkour without any tether. It genuinely worries me

Yeah, I was watching that too. We are in deep, deep shit and it will be way, way too late before the majority of people are told to worry about it (if that ever happens).

And this is just the stuff that's public. The old saying goes that the real bleeding edge is 40 years advanced.

[Letters]

Killed please :ninja:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58372754

[Mac76]

Killed please :ninja:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58372754

Criticising the voting system - where have we heard that before...? :rolleyes:

[Letters]

Geronimo :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-58255378

[Xhaka Can’t]

He’s with Pat now. :rose:

[LDG]

He’s with Pat now. :rose:

:lol:

Point to Pat

[Mac76]

:faint:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1434237385856913408

[Letters]

:faint:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1434237385856913408
Eek!

Impressive.

[Letters]

Harding :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58456170

Not a fan, but sad for a girl that young to die.

[Mac76]

Harding :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58456170

Not a fan, but sad for a girl that young to die.

agreed on all counts :rose:

[dazthegooner]

Shocking :yikes:
https://newsthump.com/2021/09/05/more-high-street-closures-ahead-as-prince-charles-moves-sales-of-honours-online/?fbclid=IwAR3dpPO2dBzgQ18VH5RjmkszsqpCgph_vUNOy3Hs oeipfdWYjTvcZBvOP2w

[Niall_Quinn]

How the climate cultists rig the data to make you believe the climate is warming. Shocking stuff really, but probably of no interest to cultists who avoid evidence at all costs. After all, religion requires faith, which makes evidence redundant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JkEEq3k8yM

Same goes for ice.

Same goes for weather.

Same goes for cuddly polar bears that would rip your face off if you got too close.

[Letters]

You’ll be excited to hear the GW domain has been renewed for another 2 years.
No need to thank me.

[Mac76]

You’ll be excited to hear the GW domain has been renewed for another 2 years.
No need to thank me.

Well, thanks anyway :clap:

[Niall_Quinn]

You’ll be excited to hear the GW domain has been renewed for another 2 years.
No need to thank me.

Well, regardless of anything else I do appreciate the effort to keep the place going, and the membership fee is pretty good value too.

[Globalgunner]

You’ll be excited to hear the GW domain has been renewed for another 2 years.
No need to thank me.

One of these days Ill introduce you to a Nigerian Prince

[Letters]

Well, regardless of anything else I do appreciate the effort to keep the place going, and the membership fee is pretty good value too.

:hug:

[Letters]

One of these days Ill introduce you to a Nigerian Prince

“The Royal penis is clean!”

[WMUG]

You’ll be excited to hear the GW domain has been renewed for another 2 years.
No need to thank me.

:woohoo:

[Mac76]

Well, regardless of anything else I do appreciate the effort to keep the place going, and the membership fee is pretty good value too.

does that mean you'll stop calling him a c**t? just wondering...?

[GP]

does that mean you'll stop calling him a c**t? just wondering...?

If the cap fits...

[Letters]

If the cap fits...

Hey! I resemble that remark :angry:

[Niall_Quinn]

does that mean you'll stop calling him a c**t? just wondering...?

No, how have you even reached such a ridiculous association? It doesn't mean I'll stop calling you a cunt either, because I won't lie under any circumstances.

[Mac76]

No, how have you even reached such a ridiculous association? It doesn't mean I'll stop calling you a cunt either, because I won't lie under any circumstances.

disappointing, i expected a level of offensive imbecility of course but i thought you could have come up with something just vaguely amusing at least

[Letters]

Look away now, NQ!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58598186

[Niall_Quinn]

Look away now, NQ!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58598186

Well you make a joke of it, like a turkey laughing at the onrush of Christmas.

Everyone was horrified when I explained the intent of the pedophiles behind these types of measures. But this is only one outrage in a long list.

Unfortunately, because of a lack of interest most people have in their own existence, there's a 5 year time delay on my conversation with most people these days.

Regardless. It's interesting why a moderator and self proclaimed good egg would drag another person (by name) into this rather than just stating a personal opinion. It's almost as if you are far too irresponsible to handle even the minuscule power you wield here.

[Letters]

Clive Sinclair :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58587521

The Speccy directly led to my career in IT.

[Letters]

Well you make a joke of it, like a turkey laughing at the onrush of Christmas.
What else is there to do? :shrug:

Pedophiles aren’t behind these types of measures, liberals are.


It's interesting why a moderator and self proclaimed good egg would drag another person (by name) into this rather than just stating a personal opinion.
As you correctly identified at the start of your post, it was a joke.
Does a joke need a motive other than to inject a bit of levity in to things?

My opinion is that this ruling is misguided.
Children by definition do not have the maturity to make these sorts of decisions without parental consent.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's aways a joke, isn't it. Such determination to be funny (while not being funny).

The joke excuse wears thin.

I could tell you what it is but you wouldn't comprehend.

[Niall_Quinn]

Clive Sinclair :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58587521

The Speccy directly led to my career in IT.

Now that is quite sad because that guy was somebody to appreciate. Few people like him in this sorry world.

[Letters]

It's aways a joke, isn't it.
Not always, but often.


Such determination to be funny (while not being funny).
Well, firstly, you understand that humour is subjective, right?
I mean Mrs Brown’s Boys keeps getting recommissioned so while I think it’s pond scum, a lot of people clearly like it.

And secondly, what’s your issue with people messing around on here?
That’s quite a large part of what this place is about, most people I suspect use it as a bit of light relief from work.


I could tell you what it is but you wouldn't comprehend.
Tell me what what is?
And if you can’t explain things in a way that others understand then that’s a failing of your intellect, not other people’s.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not always, but often.


Well, firstly, you understand that humour is subjective, right?
I mean Mrs Brown’s Boys keeps getting recommissioned so while I think it’s pond scum, a lot of people clearly like it.

And secondly, what’s your issue with people messing around on here?
That’s quite a large part of what this place is about, most people I suspect use it as a bit of light relief from work.


Tell me what what is?
And if you can’t explain things in a way that others understand then that’s a failing of your intellect, not other people’s.

So why don't you go and explain calculus to a slug? Or is that simple task beyond you?

[Letters]

So why don't you go and explain calculus to a slug? Or is that simple task beyond you?
The difference of course being that the delta (see what I did there?) between my intellect and a slug’s is significantly higher than the delta between ours.
It is actually one of my party tricks to prove by integration that the volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r cubed.
Probably why I don’t get invited to many parties.
See? That’s another joke. That one aimed at myself, as you’re too precious to have the softest jibe aimed your way.

Once again you reduce discourse to the level of the playground.
“lol, ur thick and I’m so clever”.
We can both wave degrees and other academic/career achievements around if you like but I’ve only encountered 2 people in my life who I’d regard as off the charts smarter than me. From your posts I gotta tell you, you ain’t one of them fella.

[GP]

pi r delicious

[Niall_Quinn]

The difference of course being that the delta (see what I did there?) between my intellect and a slug’s is significantly higher than the delta between ours.
It is actually one of my party tricks to prove by integration that the volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r cubed.
Probably why I don’t get invited to many parties.
See? That’s another joke. That one aimed at myself, as you’re too precious to have the softest jibe aimed your way.

Once again you reduce discourse to the level of the playground.
“lol, ur thick and I’m so clever”.
We can both wave degrees and other academic/career achievements around if you like but I’ve only encountered 2 people in my life who I’d regard as off the charts smarter than me. From your posts I gotta tell you, you ain’t one of them fella.

That's a pretty bold statement (see what I did there, wow I'm so clever) considering the amount of shit you have happily admitted to eating (LOL, slugs eat poo and you do too and I'm a poet but don't know it).

You see if you really were clever or wise or experienced in life (beyond the box you live in), you'd realise intelligence in isolation is almost worthless. It's even more embarrassing for somebody who boasts about degrees to be such a gullible and compliant fool. Yet that's not a sin, you are what you are. The actual sin is when you proudly beat people with your ignorance.

I wasn't being an arsehole when I said I couldn't explain things to you. We've already seen (right here in this thread) there are some concepts that are beyond your capability to grasp. That's just the way it is.

[Niall_Quinn]

And I suppose we shouldn't forget (despite all efforts) that our intellectual moderator initiated this, again, by direct reference. Certainly not for the first time either. It would have been quite possible to avoid the playground level wind-ups but that option was passed up, again. Because - it's a joke. Again. Our intellectual titan likes to be one of the lads when it suits but is never afraid to shut others down when they behave as he does.

[Letters]

And I suppose we shouldn't forget (despite all efforts) that our intellectual moderator initiated this, again, by direct reference.

Yes. As people have done to me on here a bazillion times on here.
On approximately 0 of those occasions have I responded in such a petulant way as you have here. Because I think we all know that people tend to mess around on here and things like this are friendly ribbing rather than malicious attacks.

Your continued overestimation of your abilities is quite amusing, given the multiple times your belief in your 20:20 foresight has been exposed by how events unfold, and the times you have claimed something which, when you provide enough for it actually to be looked into, turns out to be demonstrably false. Your rock solid confidence in your abilities despite that is a little strange.

:tiphat:

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes. As people have done to me on here a bazillion times on here.
On approximately 0 of those occasions have I responded in such a petulant way as you have here. Because I think we all know that people tend to mess around on here and things like this are friendly ribbing rather than malicious attacks.

Your continued overestimation of your abilities is quite amusing, given the multiple times your belief in your 20:20 foresight has been exposed by how events unfold, and the times you have claimed something which, when you provide enough for it actually to be looked into, turns out to be demonstrably false. Your rock solid confidence in your abilities despite that is a little strange.

:tiphat:

Ah, so you are still going to pretend this is the first time? Always avoiding the issue Mr "moderator". If only you had an ounce of the integrity you pretend.

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's what the smart people are buying. Us morons are having a hard time catching up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRxpSgKzOHk

It's all normal people. Nothing to see. Nothing to worry about.

Anyone know when the iPhone 55 is coming out? Can't wait.

[Niall_Quinn]

The elites don't social distance at their private gatherings. They don't wear masks. Their travel has not been restricted. They don't have to quarantine and we have no way of knowing if that live twatter injection was water or real gunk. But this isn't an issue at all, it's just a one-off that has happened over and over again.

However, you must live by different standards for the good of grandma and the NHS.

I wonder. Is there anything at all wrong with this picture or is it all pretty normal if you fail to think about it?

Is there an adult (grown up) out there who is prepared to admit they are happy to live by the mantra do as they say but not what they do? Pipe up if that works for you.

Or, shoot the messenger if your fragile reality has been poked.

[WMUG]

Letters smells funny.

[Letters]

Letters smells funny.

That’s a paddling’. :threaten:

[Letters]

Also, Jimmy Greaves :rose:

[Mac76]

Also, Jimmy Greaves :rose:

right-wing spud :ninja:

[dazthegooner]

And John Challis (Boycie) :rose:

[Niall_Quinn]

And John Challis (Boycie) :rose:

Thinking back to those days, those were not perfect days but they were good days. I used to watch that show and feel pretty damn content about it. It was a better time and a better place. And that's not nostalgia, it's just the reality of things. Wonder of anyone can genuinely refute that and feel it in their heart as they lie.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Why do cyclists believe red lights dont apply to them?

Walking around the city these days, they are a complete menace as regularly going through red lights when people crossing the road

[Niall_Quinn]

Regardless of it being the Daily Mail, anyone who is in the least bit interested in the definition of insanity should read the following. Not because it is "news", but because it shows just how twisted and insane the lies have to be now to prop up the naked emperor and his globalist agenda.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10008253/Gas-crisis-cause-three-day-week-amid-emergency-talks.html

Just have a think about what is being claimed here and make the simple comparison between what they say on a Sunday and the exact reversal they are trying to feed you on the Monday.

[Ollie the Optimist]

It’s a good thing everyone opposed fracking etc so we could produce our own supplies and not be reliant on electricity/gas coming in from overseas.

[Niall_Quinn]

Was sad to hear about the energy companies being on the brink though. One minute you are banking billions and awarding yourselves huge salaries and bonuses, next you are down to your last heated swimming pool and on the corporate dole.

Alien invasion can't be far off now.

[Letters]

Thinking back to those days, those were not perfect days but they were good days. I used to watch that show and feel pretty damn content about it. It was a better time and a better place. And that's not nostalgia, it's just the reality of things. Wonder of anyone can genuinely refute that and feel it in their heart as they lie.

I don't know what objective measure you can use. How do you quantify it.
Some things have got better, some have got worse.

[Mac76]

It’s a good thing everyone opposed fracking etc so we could produce our own supplies and not be reliant on electricity/gas coming in from overseas.

Yeah and those earthquakes and contaminated water tables would have come in handy too :rolleyes:

On the other hand if the tories hadn't messed with the feed-in tariffs and damaged the domestic solar industry...

[Niall_Quinn]

It’s a good thing everyone opposed fracking etc so we could produce our own supplies and not be reliant on electricity/gas coming in from overseas.

We didn't need fracking, we already sit on adequate deposits of coal, gas and oil. But, as usual, serving the nation comes a distant second to corporate profits. Add the green lunatics to the mix and you end up with scarcity. Scarcity means even more profit. Meanwhile our glorious leaders are signing up to suicidal international agreements that will exacerbate the crisis at home and give a free hand to our enemies overseas. The Chinese have been accelerating the pace of coal and gas fired builds while we shut ours down to save the planet from yet another computer simulated apocalypse.

[Letters]

The royal vagina :bow:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58627115

[Niall_Quinn]

Just how far will the BBC go with its lies and propaganda? Decades after helping to murder uncounted Iraqis, they haven't changed one bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9w0LRLnBkU

[Ollie the Optimist]

Busy on here this week :lol:

[Letters]

No, your* a jerk :angry:

https://thelanguagenerds.com/2019/people-who-constantly-point-out-grammatical-mistakes-are-jerks-study-finds



* ##

[GP]

No, your* a jerk :angry:

https://thelanguagenerds.com/2019/people-who-constantly-point-out-grammatical-mistakes-are-jerks-study-finds



* ##

The whole your/You're thing is annoying, but it's less annoying that should of or could of

[Mac76]

The whole your/You're thing is annoying, but it's less annoying that should of or could of

i hate it when people use 'of' instead of 'have' - if it makes me a nerd so what - at least i know how to speak proper ;)

also in football commentary etc you get people saying 'you can't underestimate how good he is' etc, which is nonsense - they're basically saying that the player is worse than you can imagine :lol:

[GP]

Also in football commentary, saying someone is "unplayable" doesn't make sense.

[Globalgunner]

Also in football commentary, saying someone is "unplayable" doesn't make sense.

Thats the definition of Xhaka`s abilities. You just cant play him, he`s crap

[Mac76]

Thats the definition of Xhaka`s abilities. You just cant play him, he`s crap

:lol:

[Mac76]

Anyone on a house search atm? This seems like a bargain...

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/113897525#/?channel=RES_BUY

[Ollie the Optimist]

Anyone on a house search atm? This seems like a bargain...

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/113897525#/?channel=RES_BUY

Photos like that and they still want £500,000 :lol:

[Letters]

"REQUIRING UPDATING AND MODERNISATION IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER"

Translation...complete shithole and money pit

[Letters]

More seriously, if you know what you're doing with renovating properties and that, this could be a very good investment.
I'm envious of my neighbour, her dad who took down their shed and built a summer house at the end of their garden with a bar and electrics. None of my family can do stuff like that and I'm hopeless so we always end up paying through the nose.
I was pretty pleased with myself the other day when I planed and sanded the side of a door which was sticking and then repainted it.
Oh and I did put up a curtain rail, but that's about my limit!

[Mac76]

yes i was trying to work out the margin

you can imaginge what it coud look like if you did it up and if you split it in to three flats that could work out reasonably ok if each one went for £250k or thereabouts

on another note, while i was amused at the state of it, there's obvs someone living there who isn't well, but they have probably lived there for decades and paid off the mortgage so will be able to afford to be looked after hopefully

[Letters]

A 2 bed flat along there did go for £250k and that was in 2016 so you're probably looking nearer £300k now.
Anyone want to go halvesies? :d

[Marc Overmars]

More seriously, if you know what you're doing with renovating properties and that, this could be a very good investment.
I'm envious of my neighbour, her dad who took down their shed and built a summer house at the end of their garden with a bar and electrics. None of my family can do stuff like that and I'm hopeless so we always end up paying through the nose.
I was pretty pleased with myself the other day when I planed and sanded the side of a door which was sticking and then repainted it.
Oh and I did put up a curtain rail, but that's about my limit!

A friend of mine does this. Buys beaten up properties to renovate and flips them for serious profit. His wife doesn’t need to work anymore because of the extra income he’s earned over the last 5 years or so.

The property game is the one. I wish I had got on the ladder early in my 20’s.

[Mac76]

A friend of mine does this. Buys beaten up properties to renovate and flips them for serious profit. His wife doesn’t need to work anymore because of the extra income he’s earned over the last 5 years or so.

The property game is the one. I wish I had got on the ladder early in my 20’s.

you should tell him about that house then

as i posted it I'll obvs want a small commission - say 10% of the asking price? ;)

[Letters]

I've got a mate who does similar things. Semi-seriously thinking about telling him about it :ninja:

[Mac76]

I've got a mate who does similar things. Semi-seriously thinking about telling him about it :ninja:

like i said - 10% of the asking price please :)

[Letters]

Yeah. For posting a link you've really earned it :p

[Mac76]

:(

[Letters]

You've got an Arsenal season ticket so you've already got more money than sense ;)

[Mac76]

You've got an Arsenal season ticket so you've already got more money than sense ;)

well you're right about having no sense and as for money, as you say Arsenal now has all that ... :lol:

[Letters]

well you're right about having no sense and as for money, as you say Arsenal now has all that ... :lol:

Xhaka's salary doesn't pay itself! :d

[Letters]

Mate is driving to Scotland today.
Except no he isn’t, because he can’t get any petrol
:doh:
He tried a few places this morning and none of them had any.

[dazthegooner]

And what makes it worse there are petrol tankers trying to deliver but they're being held up due to 'traffic' congestion :blink:

[Letters]

Only “Almost” :(

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9606193/ed-sheeran-almost-quit-music-after-daughter-birth/

[Letters]

I continue to not understand this business model or why these things are worth anything at all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56371912

[Mac76]

Only “Almost” :(

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9606193/ed-sheeran-almost-quit-music-after-daughter-birth/

:lol:

[Mac76]

I continue to not understand this business model or why these things are worth anything at all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56371912

They aren't it's just ultimate capitalism

[LDG]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09wn48m

Don’t you mean p-p-p-p-pandemic

[Letters]

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

They aren't it's just ultimate capitalism

Don't buy it then, twat. Ultimate capitalism.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09wn48m

Don’t you mean p-p-p-p-pandemic

I also noticed my urine turned purple.

That's not true at all, but it would make a good story on the BBC.

[Letters]

Spurs :haha:

[Mac76]

Don't buy it then, twat. Ultimate capitalism.

i didn't say i was going to buy it, twat

[Niall_Quinn]

i didn't say i was going to buy it, twat

And right there is why I called you a twat.

[Marc Overmars]

45 mins queuing to fill up my car.

Fuck off.

[Letters]

It's all gone mental. A mate was supposed to be going to Scotland on Saturday for a holiday and couldn't because he couldn't get petrol anywhere.
Another mate had his brother and mum visit. My mate told his brother to fill up before they came down, he didn't and then got stranded at theirs
:doh:
We haven't tried to get any petrol as we tend to only do short journeys and so don't need any right now, and I reckon it'll all blow over fairly quickly. I am seeing a lot of reports on local FB groups of big queues for petrol.
People are complete twats. And of course the more the press report it the bigger twats they become.

[GP]

Petrol :lol:

Greta woz rite

[Letters]

I believe he could fry…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58714203

[GP]

Nonce sense

[Xhaka Can’t]

Will he share a cell with R Andy?

[IBK]

It's all gone mental. A mate was supposed to be going to Scotland on Saturday for a holiday and couldn't because he couldn't get petrol anywhere.
Another mate had his brother and mum visit. My mate told his brother to fill up before they came down, he didn't and then got stranded at theirs
:doh:
We haven't tried to get any petrol as we tend to only do short journeys and so don't need any right now, and I reckon it'll all blow over fairly quickly. I am seeing a lot of reports on local FB groups of big queues for petrol.
People are complete twats. And of course the more the press report it the bigger twats they become.

Never truer words said.

[Letters]

THE ARMY ARE ON THE STREETS!!!1!1!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58713770

[dazthegooner]

They've been on the street for years <_<

[Niall_Quinn]

Never truer words said.

It's almost as if they are reacting to each new symptom as it arrives, yet are oblivious to the causes.

Was talking to a trucker of 20 years. He was explaining the current driver shortage, which has been going on for at least the entire 20 years he has been in the industry. He was surprised it's suddenly popular.

Had this dream about oil tankers queued up on the coast, being used as storage facilities due to the massive oil glut and plummeting prices. Some bastard had fucked with the status quo by using his own shit rather than paying absentee landlords from the desert. Strange dream, was so real at the time.

Those mad Russians are at it again. For some inexplicable reason they don't want their pipelines being "maintained" by Nazis hired by the CIA.

Saw one of Greta's windmills. Bit boring, because there was no wind blowing.

Hope granny is warm this winter. It's bad enough with all these new respiratory diseases that Anthony worked so hard to get out there. Don't want her freezing to death before she discovers her pension has been stolen.

[Letters]

Roger Hunt :rose:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58717157

[Mac76]

RIP

[WMUG]

It's almost as if they are reacting to each new symptom as it arrives, yet are oblivious to the causes.

Was talking to a trucker of 20 years. He was explaining the current driver shortage, which has been going on for at least the entire 20 years he has been in the industry. He was surprised it's suddenly popular.

Had this dream about oil tankers queued up on the coast, being used as storage facilities due to the massive oil glut and plummeting prices. Some bastard had fucked with the status quo by using his own shit rather than paying absentee landlords from the desert. Strange dream, was so real at the time.

Those mad Russians are at it again. For some inexplicable reason they don't want their pipelines being "maintained" by Nazis hired by the CIA.

Saw one of Greta's windmills. Bit boring, because there was no wind blowing.

Hope granny is warm this winter. It's bad enough with all these new respiratory diseases that Anthony worked so hard to get out there. Don't want her freezing to death before she discovers her pension has been stolen.

Still, we beat Spurs the other day.

:d

[Letters]

:lol:

Spurs :pal:

[Niall_Quinn]

Still, we beat Spurs the other day.

:d

That would be funny if it wasn't such an accurate reflection of the reality.

[WMUG]

That would be funny if it wasn't such an accurate reflection of the reality.

If you don't enjoy the good times, there's no reason to endure the bad times.

[Niall_Quinn]

If you don't enjoy the good times, there's no reason to endure the bad times.

I don't class distractions as good times by default. Has to be worthwhile, has to galvanise and energise and give fuel for the more common daily grind. If it saps your will to live then it's a distraction too far. A good book remains reliable.