FA Cup Fifth Round Draw, 26th Jan (ITV1, after Chelsea - Stoke), 17:35

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Is there a video of that anywhere? Haven't seen it in years.

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Tried searching for it now as I was curious too, can't find it either.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Not gloating at all, just pointing out facts, when a team knocks in 6 goals against you I think the fear of playing you will be dampened.

Now I didn't actually see that match as I was out, but I know you guys like to talk about the ref and how it was all down to him, but it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf, when you blame the ref all the time perhaps people stop believing that was actually the case.

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you had a point upto that point...

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Originally Posted by mkkreuk

you had a point upto that point...

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I wasn't commenting on my interpretation, just on the fact these guys blame the referees decisions almost every match. Thus my point stands.

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Originally Posted by Özim

I wasn't commenting on my interpretation, just on the fact these guys blame the referees decisions almost every match. Thus my point stands.

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Except that this is in an Arsenal forum. Thus you would expect most arsenal fans to have watched the match, and seen with their own eyes the impact of the ref on that game. They were better than us, but the ref certainly influenced the result.

It doesn't matter what "people" stop believing.

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Originally Posted by mkkreuk

Except that this is in an Arsenal forum. Thus you would expect most arsenal fans to have watched the match, and seen with their own eyes the impact of the ref on that game. They were better than us, but the ref certainly influenced the result.

It doesn't matter what "people" stop believing.

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You would expect most Arsenal fans to, you know, support the team rather than sniping at them at every opportunity and acting like they just can't wait for them to fail so they can moan about us not winning a trophy they thought we had no chance of winning anyway. Meh.

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Originally Posted by mkkreuk

Except that this is in an Arsenal forum. Thus you would expect most arsenal fans to have watched the match, and seen with their own eyes the impact of the ref on that game. They were better than us, but the ref certainly influenced the result.

It doesn't matter what "people" stop believing.

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Well no, people have a life outside football, I watch football but sometimes I have other things that need doing, I'm not a kid with nothing better to do that sit and watch telly all day long.

My observation is one of how people blame the ref every week, I've watched plenty of games and where the ref didn't do a whole lot wrong but is once again blamed for this and that.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You would expect most Arsenal fans to, you know, support the team rather than sniping at them at every opportunity and acting like they just can't wait for them to fail so they can moan about us not winning a trophy they thought we had no chance of winning anyway. Meh.

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Nice little indirect dig, you sound like Wenger :run:

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Originally Posted by Özim

Well no, people have a life outside football, I watch football but sometimes I have other things that need doing, I'm not a kid with nothing better to do that sit and watch telly all day long.

My observation is one of how people blame the ref every week, I've watched plenty of games and where the ref didn't do a whole lot wrong but is once again blamed for this and that.

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Only problem being that nobody blames the ref every week. Otherwise a flawless argument.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Only problem being that nobody blames the ref every week. Otherwise a flawless argument.

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Ok let me rephrase that, almost every week. I think there's been about 2 occasions when they haven't.

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Originally Posted by Özim

I think there's been about 2 occasions when they haven't.

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I like hyperbole, use it myself all the time. But there are limits.