Also, Fellaini might be available as well. You know. Crazed bid?
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Also, Fellaini might be available as well. You know. Crazed bid?
Crazed being the operative word
And you say he never likes spending money...Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
It seems to me that some of the so called experts like Petit, Merson, Wright, Dixon etc all wanted Wenger to stay in the summer and now all of them seemingly want him out.
There are people on here and people not on here that have wanted Wenger out for many years and cannot believe he is still in the job.
I don't care about the Arsenal matches any more although I really do believe that lots of heavy defeats would get Wenger out next summer, but that won't happen.
We can rant and rave as much as we like, some more than others, but Wenger will be here for many years yet and not just another 18 months of his contract.
He loves the Arsenal job he has and the board love him enormously, and they don't care what the fans think.
How is all of this going to change, seriously ?
This is how they'll finally break the fans. They'll just outlast them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
The only way now is to hit them commercially, so boycott games + merchandise. They only operate via money so that's how you have to get to them to make them understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
They still won't give a shit. Worth a try though I guess.
Wright never backed him to stay and neither did MersonQuote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
If profits fall you can be sure they'll take notice, money is the only think they care about. Fans need to boycott games, stop buying merchandise ideally, realistically the boycotting will never happen, so then I guess mass demonstrations at games to make the atmosphere unbearable, it won't affedct Kroenke but Wenger might call it a day (don't hold your breath though, the guy gives an entirely new meaning to the word stubborn).Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Not sure if Petit or Dixon did either to be honest, Petit had been quite critical from memory. Keown is the one really staunch Wenger supporter, the guy deflects all the blame away from Wenger and seems to aim it all at Ozil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
The pundits are pussy. They all stop short of saying they want Wenger out. Heard Merson ranting some weeks back about our problems but back tracked when 'Wenger Out' was mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
The pundits are 6 years behind when it comes to being in tune with fan sentiment. Even the Lee Dixon quote I read on here about how crap we are when it comes to pressing, he is still under the impression that we can beat any team when it comes to our attacking play. What the heck is he watching? That was true a long time ago but these days we really struggle to even get into gear. I tend to pay more attention to what fan bloggers say and podcasts like Arsenal Vision because they actually watch the games and bring up a lot of the issues we talk about here in terms of performances.
Even Keown said he was a punch drunk boxer and should walk away. He changed his tune when he began fishing for a coaching role againQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Given that we haven’t had a majority of fans saying he should go before this year (incredibly)Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
It would appear the fans are years behind fan sentiment as well
Trouble is, you have to pay them up front to protest at the game. And they have those cunts that take away the banners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Free protests OUTSIDE the games that target the pro-Wenger fans just as much as they target the club hierarchy. Just a little bit of pressure would encourage the tourists to go elsewhere. Make it uncomfortable for them going in and coming out. Unrestrained criticism of cocks like John Cross would be productive too. If he wants to shill for the club there should be a price attached to that. Keep it lawful, avoid violence (even though those pro-Wenger lot have no trouble resorting to it) but be as loud and rowdy as possible. I'd start going to that hateful stadium again (outside, not in) if I thought there was something worthwhile happening rather than just expensive boreball.
Everyone in the media seems blind when it comes to the sideways, tip tap non-football we are suffering. It's as if they see a game from 10 years ago instead. A few, like Nichol and that other bloke who hates Wenger and whose name I can't remember, talk about it. That's about it though. Heard a few minor mentions in the mainstream that hints this might be changing. I hope so, because it hurts my head having to watch 90 minutes of boring shite and then having to suffer some pundit saying we play great football. It's a piss take, like some sort of in-joke where they are rubbing it in our faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I have noticed that the home attendances have gone down slightly but it needs to go down to about 20,000 for it to do any good which again, will not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
There is no realistic way out of this situation, unless someone can come up with a serious solution to the problem.
I can't think of it.
I don't get it either. I don't know where they get this notion from. We've lost a step on attack and I can't understand why they keep churning out the same rubbish headlines that were true some years back. Hence why I don't really check for what any of them say when it comes to whether Wenger should stay or go. If they were actually paying attention to the football and not just the few highlight reel 15 second clips they find trending on Twitter, I'd care a bit more about what they have to say. It's rare to hear any of them come up with insightful information these days that the average fan doesn't know. We'll get a few headline gems here and there from the odd pundit but I've never heard any of them really break down the sort of problems we have as club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Mixture of lazy journalism and circle of access journalismQuote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I think the numbers will gradually drop. A mass boycott is possible and can grow in numbers depending on how badly we perform on the pitch and how much those with platforms call for it. To me, that would be the better solution because people are fired up enough to take action. But I can see a worst case scenario where the numbers just gradually drop because people are tired of the same old. They stop engaging, lose interest totally and just stop going. That's a dangerous situation because I can't see how you win people back after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
They'll just lure some Asian bloke called Yu Chuk Doh into the stadium. Doubt they give a fuck if anyone actually supports the team, provided they pay up in advance. That's why the atmosphere is legendary for its shittiness and the club, despite being begged by the fans, does nothing about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Possibly the most ridiculous fake football news yet?
How, exactly does a shirt number boost your brand when you have the option to move to a serious club?Quote:
Mesut Ozil could pen a new deal at Arsenal if Arsene Wenger allows him to step into the No 10 jersey which is currently filled by Jack Wilshere.
The German, who currently wears the No 11 shirt, is out of contract next summer and is seeking a £300,000-a-week deal to stay at the Emirates Stadium.
And, according to The Sun, Ozil would be prepared to put pen to paper if Wilshere relinquishes his squad number in order to boost his brand.
Please don't be true:pray:
First rule with Arsenal’s current management:
If it’s shit, it’s true.
Beyond caring. I just hope there is an injunction in whatever performance incentive clauses appear in his Contract. That if he’s a lazy cunt, Steve Bould gets to kick him in the nuts
It's a media wind-up, isn't it? The smoke will be Ozil demanding a central role, or something like that. The fire created by the media is the shirt number so they can try to stir the pot with Jack who is also negotiating his future. Journos looking to create some free news. If we get Ozil/ Wilshere dressing room bust-up headlines next then we'll know it's a stitch-up.
Anyway, last I heard the club had issued a take it or leave it 240K offer. Same with Alexis. And both of them go to 300 if we win the Top 4 World Cup. So that's probably where they are getting the 300k figure from. Fake News. Lying scumbags. All normal, nothing to see here.
Ozil to Utd in January seems to be the most likely outcome. Utd just told Maureen he has to sell if he wants to buy. And suddenly Fellaini is told he can push off.
Somebody else is always to blame.Quote:
Arsenal chief scout Steve Rowley, who has worked for the club for over 35 years, is on the brink of leaving the Premier League outfit.
Rowley has contacted scouting colleagues at other clubs to tell them that he's had enough. A club spokesman said on Wednesday night that his future still had to be finalised.
However it seems Rowley — despite a long partnership with manager Arsene Wenger, who made him chief scout in 1996 — has been made the scapegoat for Arsenal's recent poor record in the transfer market.
Another interesting bit:
Ivan finding ways to skirt around the dinosaur?Quote:
The upheaval to the Arsenal scouting system has seen chief executive Ivan Gazidis oversee the recruitment operation, sharing his time between offices at the club and at the training ground.
Arsenal, who bought German data firm StatDNA in 2012, will also be beefing up their analytics operation to have a bigger 'Moneyball' type influence on their transfer dealings. It looked like Wenger staying for another two seasons prevented a modernisation which was planned by Gazidis to have taken place last summer.
But Rowley's imminent departure following chief transfer negotiator Dick Law stepping down and the arrival of Team Sky legal chief Huss Fahmy suggests Gazidis is getting his way at last.
Hopefully Grimandi leaves. Responsible for the conveyor belt of crap that arrived during the banter era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And we all know that whilst Wenger stays changes to coaching are deck chairs on the Titanic, when he goes you suspect most will go with him.
You look at most his back room staff, they've been there for donkeys years. Fergie used to spice things up and refresh every so often.
Yep pretty much
You grab every blade of comfort you can get with this club, real or imagined. If Ivan is genuinely trying to make changes by working around the old goat then that may (or may not) be something different. And if it's different at Arsenal it's remarkable. Who knows? Perhaps Ivan is not a complete wimp. Maybe he didn't appreciate the dinosaur lumbering off to cry to Stan when, it sounds like, there was a plan in place that relied on the relic fucking off. Maybe Ivan has said, fuck you, ancient one, I'll find another way to do something useful at this place.
It's a better hope than hoping our football improves, or Wenger snaps back to reality.
We need 3 days weekends in this country
Thursday's should be Fridays
Thursday's are basically Fridays anyway. Who does work on a Friday?
Friday is my busiest day when I talk to the clients to explain what I have done for them during the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
So I have to be very creative on Fridays.
I didn’t know you worked any day of the weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Turning up to some pointless course you’ve been sent on by the DWP doesn’t count
Wengers' idea of refreshing is getting injured players back, his idea of refreshing the backroom staff is reminding them he's the boss and that he makes the decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Ivan wanted Wenger gone in the summer. Wengers done nothing but patronise and undermine him over the years. Think Ivan thought last season he could genuinely implement changes after a horrific season but the old goat still managed to get his own way on most things. Can't imagine ivans too happy... his hands are pretty tied until wenger leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
“Myself and my colleagues Johhny Walker and Jim Beam have been brainstorming this entire week”Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Johnny and Jim left years ago. Lightweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
*and goonerswebQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie