2024 US General Election - MAGA |Libcucks BTFO

[IBK]

This was a result of voters wanting change from the incumbent administration - just like Labour's victory here was. It almost doesn't matter which political shade the challenger is - and in the case of the USA what his charater was. People are fed up - and want to believe what they are told. Whether this is blatant fabrication; unsustainable on analysis or simply soundbites does not matter. We saw this with the Brexit vote.

That said, the democrats in the US, and even Labour here to a degree have become an intellectual elite; rooted in the past/the establishment and unable to see beyond their own political bubble. Voters think that disruptors who speak plainly are the route out of the malaise we are seeing with Western democracy. It's obvious that many politicians have lost the ability to understand the public mood...Trump's talent is that he understands this much better than anyone else.

[HCZ_Reborn]

This was a result of voters wanting change from the incumbent administration - just like Labour's victory here was. It almost doesn't matter which political shade the challenger is - and in the case of the USA what his charater was. People are fed up - and want to believe what they are told. Whether this is blatant fabrication; unsustainable on analysis or simply soundbites does not matter. We saw this with the Brexit vote.

That said, the democrats in the US, and even Labour here to a degree have become an intellectual elite; rooted in the past/the establishment and unable to see beyond their own political bubble. Voters think that disruptors who speak plainly are the route out of the malaise we are seeing with Western democracy. It's obvious that many politicians have lost the ability to understand the public mood...Trump's talent is that he understands this much better than anyone else.

I think people underestimated the Anti-Incumbent sentiment.

I have no time for politicians who talk about gleefully wrecking institutions, but the same time the institutions themselves have to be fit for purpose. Populists are very good at defining problems that should be obvious to anyone, they are less good at coming up with solutions…if you look closely at someone like Dominic Cummings for instance…in many cases they aren’t interested in solutions.
I think the civil service is clearly in need of overdue reform, what it doesn’t need is some pernicious bell end taking a bulldozer to it.
In America there is a lot of institutional capture, the media is about engagement rather than news….the universities are a complete and utter mess, from being financially parasitic to having students who actively support terrorist organisations.

The American economy has been quite robust, but the result will still be the same…if people are struggling to afford basic groceries…they aren’t going to be happy.

Do I think Trump is the answer? Definitely fucking not. But there’s got to be a realisation that politicians like this don’t come out of nowhere. They smell the blood

[Letters]

It's official!

[HCZ_Reborn]

I predicted 225 to 313 in the EC to Trump, looks like a solid prediction on my part

[IBK]

I think people underestimated the Anti-Incumbent sentiment.

I have no time for politicians who talk about gleefully wrecking institutions, but the same time the institutions themselves have to be fit for purpose. Populists are very good at defining problems that should be obvious to anyone, they are less good at coming up with solutions…if you look closely at someone like Dominic Cummings for instance…in many cases they aren’t interested in solutions.
I think the civil service is clearly in need of overdue reform, what it doesn’t need is some pernicious bell end taking a bulldozer to it.
In America there is a lot of institutional capture, the media is about engagement rather than news….the universities are a complete and utter mess, from being financially parasitic to having students who actively support terrorist organisations.

The American economy has been quite robust, but the result will still be the same…if people are struggling to afford basic groceries…they aren’t going to be happy.

Do I think Trump is the answer? Definitely fucking not. But there’s got to be a realisation that politicians like this don’t come out of nowhere. They smell the blood

I agree with all that.

[Letters]

I think people underestimated the Anti-Incumbent sentiment.

I certainly did.

We saw it here of course, no-one was enthused about Starmer but he wasn't the Tories and people were sick to the back teeth of them so he sailed in with a landslide.

In the US they've had the same cost of living issues we have. What people don't seem to understand is that the US doesn't exist in a vacuum, things like the pandemic and Ukraine have a bigger effect than anything a US president does. But of course it's easy for Trump (or anyone) to breeze in, tell people that things are shit - which they already feel they are - and that he'll fix it all. Obviously he won't, but it's an easy promise to make.

I am a bit surprised that they re-elected him after the way he behaved after the last election, and just generally his awful character and the astonishing amount of bullshit he spouts. But it's a two party system and if you're that pissed off with how things are and blame the current government then that's the only other option.

[HCZ_Reborn]

On the plus side I won £100 from my brother in a bet. I’ve been telling both him and my Dad that Trump was going to win for the last 18 months but they wouldn’t have it.

Even accused me of being pro Trump once or twice (fuck off ) the difference is I can separate what I think will happen from what I think should happen. That used to be quite the abundant skill, but in this hyper partisan age it’s becoming less of a thing

[Letters]

He got away with it the first time because the Republicans weren’t going to be stupid enough to kick out their own President. This time, there’s only a week left. But at least it should mean he can’t run again in 2024.

Letters

[Letters]

On the plus side I won £100 from my brother in a bet.

Literally the first thing a colleague said to me this morning was that he'd won £40 because of the result
So every cloud...

[HCZ_Reborn]

Literally the first thing a colleague said to me this morning was that he'd won £40 because of the result
So every cloud...

Rule of Thumb, never bet on what you want to happen unless you’re absolutely sure it will. Not that I wanted Harris to win, I just wanted Trump to win less. I actually would have been ok with a Republican winning, even if it was someone like Ron De Santis. I don’t care too much for culture war shtick, but on the whole he’s actually good at his job…not sure how well governor of Florida translates to President, but he’s no fool. The problem is, you can’t out Trump Trump. Trumpism has no real substance anyway but it certainly has no future beyond Trump himself.

Like with any president, if what he does has any merit it will last beyond his presidency, if it doesn’t it won’t