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Thread: US Election & Politics - We're Making America Great Again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    MSNBC are in real trouble. Rumours going around that several of the most vile racists on their payroll will be fired in the coming days, including Joy Reid. CNN also furiously rowing back up the river in the hope of saving themselves. Just a shame the BBC, Channel 4 and the other propaganda streams in this country aren't on the chopping block too after their shameful performance on foreign affairs over the last decade. Can't have everything and it's only a matter of time anyway. Even if this is all that is achieved by the last gasp about-turn from the American people, it's a huge win. As the corporate media gets chopped back the ability for the corps to control the narrative will wane and the number of people snapping back to reality will grow. Once that reaches critical mass the whole stinking pile will come crashing down. There is momentum when it seemed impossible there could ever be any again.
    Fake news is dying.

    The Guardian are leaving X, formerly Twitter, because they can't get away with spreading their misinformation anymore thanks to community notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies View Post
    Fake news is dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies View Post
    Fake news is dying.
    To elaborate. If you're using "Fake news" as a synonym for "the legacy/mainstream media" then yes, obviously that is dying.
    Where we probably disagree is you regard that as a good thing. I do not.
    Because "fake news" in general is alive and well and healthier than ever.
    There are now a myriad of sources which each pander to their own particular demographic.
    I'm not saying having one source of news would be a good thing, it obviously wouldn't, but the proliferation of sources each pandering to its own audience is just making everything increasingly divided and it's harder and harder to know what is actually true these days.

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    No nonsense AG https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1856802499383951547

    Just what America needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    To elaborate. If you're using "Fake news" as a synonym for "the legacy/mainstream media" then yes, obviously that is dying.
    Where we probably disagree is you regard that as a good thing. I do not.
    Because "fake news" in general is alive and well and healthier than ever.
    There are now a myriad of sources which each pander to their own particular demographic.
    I'm not saying having one source of news would be a good thing, it obviously wouldn't, but the proliferation of sources each pandering to its own audience is just making everything increasingly divided and it's harder and harder to know what is actually true these days.
    It's the direct opposite of what you say. It has never been easier for the average guy to discover the news behind the "news". Our direction of travel has been consistently towards the unified collation and dispersal of self interested information by profit incentivised corporations via print, radio and television. A mere two global news agencies serviced by an ever shrinking cartel of "authoritative" (corporate approved) media outlets. At last reckoning six corporations owned all the major players in the US, for example.

    We hadn't reached the terminus yet, information still leaks, insolent individuals with nostalgic tendencies sometime wander off the reservation. We got close though, as seen during the pandemic, when it became heresy to question the freshly minted pseudo-science that replaced investigation with consensus. Inertia tricks most into believing modern journalism still reflects the Woodward or Bernstein pounding pavements, knocking on doors, getting coffee rushes in midnight libraries, but you can read Chomsky's definitive "Manufacturing Consent" if you want to know the true inner and practical workings of the modern media. Or simply look at the pattern and apply memory and common sense, the big lie, the big lie repeated by every voice, then the memory hole, the respectable interlude and the quiet, "We told you so", admission when the outcome has been safely monetised. Iraq, 911, the pandemic, climate change, Russiagate - all very, very different to Watergate.

    It's true, the Internet is a dumping ground for every kind of trash, but it's also the mechanism by which the gatekeepers can be bypassed, where people who were there, who saw it happen, and those who have picked up the tools abandoned by the investigators of the past can interact. They are dismissed by those comfortably numb to the workings of corporate media, but eagerly embraced by those who have memory and apply common sense. The last refuge of the mainstream charlatans is to suggest a million bad apples therefore renders the good ones irrelevant and unworthy, but of course the would say that. Fewer people are believing it though and the human race is once again finding countless routes around totalitarianism.

    Unfortunately for the corporations they just can't help their nature. Their lust for profit has led to them creating the very technologies that will result in their demise, with AI yet to come which they absolutely won't be able to resist.
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