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    Arsenal v Liverpool. Sunday 27th Oct. 16:30

    This could be a bit grim.

    Hopefully Saka is fit but it sounds like it will be a last minute call. Not sure about Timber and Calafiori either, if they’re both out I’m guessing Partey will go RB and Kiwior LB, with White moving into the centre.

    Not confident at all but it’s a fixture we need to be winning.

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    I hope we win, tbh.

    If Saka is out then we'll do no better than a draw. With him we have a chance.

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    Whilst I do not blame Arteta for the red cards the way the media seems to want to, I absolutely believe he is to blame for many of the injuries we have incurred (obviously not the Odegaard one, although even there I think the club should have prevented him from going on International duty to begin with)

    Players are being run into the ground, we are overusing players that have come back from long term injury and are prone to soft tissue problems


    With Saka, the only surprise is that this hasn’t happened sooner

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    I don't entirely disagree but this early in the season I'm not sure you can accuse Arteta of running anyone in to the ground.
    But I do think he should rotate more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't entirely disagree but this early in the season I'm not sure you can accuse Arteta of running anyone in to the ground.
    But I do think he should rotate more.
    I think you have to look at it more broadly than this season. Saka for example. He’s had no sustained period of rest in over a year. The previous started in August 2023, I would struggle to think of any game that he didn’t play not just in the league but in Europe and the cups as well. The season finished in May, then in June you have the Euros….which finished for England on the 14th July and the new football season started again on the 17th August.

    He was even started in the league cup game against Bolton for heaven’s sake.

    So when you look at Saka, yeah I’d absolutely say it’s about running him into the ground

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    I agree about Saka specifically. The way Arteta plays him in basically every game is ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I agree about Saka specifically. The way Arteta plays him in basically every game is ludicrous.
    The potential is there for the same thing to happen with both Rice and Saliba. In fact arguably it did happen with Saliba season before last and it screwed our season.

    Timber and Calafiori? I think it comes down to neither being eased back in. One after a long term injury, one after an injury on international duty

    Given how injury prone Partey is, we are taking quite a big risk by playing him all the time

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    The real issue here is that we still don’t have a decent alternative to Saka, so that’s probably why Arteta feels compelled to play him as much as he does. His delivery is always on point and he often occupies 2 sometimes 3 players which creates space for others. His defensive work is also something that’s become an essential part of how the team functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Whilst I do not blame Arteta for the red cards the way the media seems to want to, I absolutely believe he is to blame for many of the injuries we have incurred (obviously not the Odegaard one, although even there I think the club should have prevented him from going on International duty to begin with)

    Players are being run into the ground, we are overusing players that have come back from long term injury and are prone to soft tissue problems


    With Saka, the only surprise is that this hasn’t happened sooner
    I think most players today are queer. Back in the day, when Billy Bremner could kick you ten feet into the air and the ref would walk past, taking a drag on his John Players, the same men would land with a thump and turn up for the next game. Too many faggots in the modern game.
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    For what it's worth I don't think we're anywhere near as bad as you think we are, but not as good as Mac thinks we are (I love to see it so carry on!). Though tbf I don't think you're as good as you think you are, nor as bad as Mac thinks you/Arteta are. I think you'll finish above us, but I don't think it'll be a yawning chasm; I think a lot will come down to injuries, on both sides.

    I think we will revert to the mean at some point, in no small part down to Jota being out until after the next international break, which is the Istoree of Jota unfortunately.

    On the game, tbh, I didn't really watch it so can't really comment. By all accounts you battered us first half and didn't take advantage, second half we maybe should have taken advantage of your back line. And didn't. I think we're happier with the point than you are, but you can make arguments either way given injuries etc. I think the referees calls were much of a muchness.

    City will probably win it. And on we go.


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