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[Cripps]

The devious attempt to equate gun deaths to combat deaths.

By including suicides.

Dishonest in the extreme, so much so that even the Guardian won't touch it.

Those figures reveal that 500 deaths per year, out of an average 2.6 million (2014 stats) are attributable to 'mass' (I assume that means more than one) shootings. That's 0.02%

See what I did there?

Odd, isn't it, that a government that commits by far the most gun violence against civilians than any other nation or group on the planet wants to deny millions of law abiding citizens their constitutional rights based on a vanishingly small pretext? This sudden desire for the establishment to save 500 lives a year. How touching.

How many die from poverty?

But it's not just about stopping mass shootings, it's about trying to stop all shootings

[Niall_Quinn]

But it's not just about stopping mass shootings, it's about trying to stop all shootings

Is it?

What about stabbings? Car accidents? Food poisoning? Infection from ingrowing toenails?

Why doesn't the government fuck right off and mind its own business? It's there to serve the people, not tell them how to live. Or die for that matter. And why is the government permitted to have tanks and assault rifles and all manner of military equipment while calling for the citizenry to be disarmed? What are we saying? That the US government, the government that has attacked and killed more civilians than any other organisation on planet earth since the end of WWII, should be left in an unassailable position to dictate as it pleases? Would you trust the US government on any issue or to any degree? The CIA? The NSA? The crazed Joint Chiefs? The horrendously crooked stooges in Congress, the Senate and the Executive? And if so, why, for God's sake?

You want a psychopathic and ultra violent mass murdering serial killer to be your nanny. Why?

[Letters]

And why is the government permitted to have tanks and assault rifles and all manner of military equipment while calling for the citizenry to be disarmed?

They're not calling for that though, are they?

[Cripps]

Is it?

What about stabbings? Car accidents? Food poisoning? Infection from ingrowing toenails?

How many deaths are there from those a year in America

[Niall_Quinn]

They're not calling for that though, are they?

Not at this stage. But when they get their new laws in place and gun violence isn't magically eradicated, then what? More laws. That's how government steals liberty, step by step. That's how it's done in every case. Give them the right to track "terrorists" and soon they are tracking everyone. Give them the right to do anything at all and it is abused. It's deliberately naive for you to suggest otherwise and history is not your friend should you wish to persist.

[Niall_Quinn]

How many deaths are there from those a year in America

I think you may be missing the point.

[Cripps]

I don't get your argument, you say people need to be armed against the government, but it's not like they retaliate currently to prevent the police brutality etc from happening even with their guns

It's such a weak argument. This isn't Iraq or Libya where there's a civil war or bloodshed on the streets from a tyrannical leader, it's America

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't get your argument, you say people need to be armed against the government, but it's not like they retaliate currently to prevent the police brutality etc from happening even with their guns

It's such a weak argument. This isn't Iraq or Libya where there's a civil war or bloodshed on the streets from a tyrannical leader, it's America

What happens when you damn a river? Do the citizens living downriver call for the damn to be removed because so far they haven't got wet?

Precisely. America isn't Iraq or Libya. Iraq and Libya are two nations that couldn't defend themselves adequately against the violence of the US government. Now look at them. Destroyed societies. And if you think the same could never happen in America, well look at any communist state and its bloody history. There has been a concerted push over decades to drive America into the arms of globalisation, the global manifestation of communism. Clinton was earmarked to ride the transformation to a point of no return, hence the viciousness of the response against the coincidental nationalist chosen by the Americans who don't want their way of life transformed and degraded. Gun control is just one item, albeit an important one, on the globalist agenda.

Did you see the lefty revolution that occurred over the weekend? The chickenshits didn't dare hit the streets and it ended up as a farce. Why? Because on a 10 to 1 ratio, Americans took to the streets armed and ready to act if necessary. The communists hid at home instead. A fairly minor demonstration of things to come, but a demonstration nonetheless.

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyway - I MUST work today. End of. No getting away from it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Gunman was an Athiest

God really is a cunt