Whoever the manager is next summer, half these players need to fuck the fuck off.
Whoever the manager is next summer, half these players need to fuck the fuck off.
Arteta's got to go, it's that simple, I'm sure i read somewhere that he'd been given the last three games to turn it around, but it's not happened
Time to get Allegri or Ralf Rangnick in
Aye, Arteta definitely needs to go, not just for the unacceptable performances, number of back to back defeats and current position in the table, but also for his man management of some of the players in the Squad.Originally Posted by Mac76
We are to a certain extent at crossroads now, do we get someone experienced in to just steady the ship and see out the season? I personally think that is the best thing to do given the current state of the squad. There are so many question marks over so many players, the Ozil situation, Guendouzi situation, Torreira situation, the likes of Mustafi, Luiz, Sokratis, Lacazette, Balogun etc. Most of those lot will probably go which is fine by me, but we are going to need to do further restructuring and rebuilding of the squad.
Regarding the rebuild, if Edu is to stay he is going to need an experienced DOF to work with him to rebuild the squad, rebuilding is difficult enough as is when you have an experienced team, rebuilding when we have the likes of Edu and Arteta (if he manages to stay in the job) will simply be beyond them IMO, it is a huge task and one that is very easy to get wrong as we are seeing now.
I am hoping those above look at this current situation as a two part process, priority being to sort us out short term and actually finish the season in a semi-respectable position. Then the summer rebuild where a number of players will most likely be departing.
Also, given the upheavel of last season, the car crash that is unfolding this season, unless we improve drastically, we are going to need to humble ourselves come the summer and rebuild by picking up under the radar players. We simply will not be a catch for any half decent player without any European football next season.
Last edited by selassie; 20-12-2020 at 10:29 PM.
We've had Dick, Freddie and Mick. Nothing changed. None of them were able to take the Arsene out of Arsenal. And the next guy won't have any success either unless all these senior players are dumped. Talk about virus - these guys are infected and beyond recovery. We have three, maybe four, senior players who are salvageable or too new to be beyond hope. If we do get a new manager in and we don't see him selling virtually the whole first team then you can be sure he's just another name on a growing list.
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I pretty much agree, but with a half decent manager, this squad of players should be finishing around 6th in this league.
With pretty much the same squad last season, Arteta had us finishing the season relatively strongly last season coupled with the Cup Win and beating City and Chelsea along the way.
We do need to ship out pretty much all of the experienced senior players, but they are better than what they are serving up right now, we are 15th for FFS, it's totally unacceptable.
I hadn't heard it before, but the word is going around Freddie was absolutely scathing of these senior players before he handed over the management. Not Arsenal material, he supposedly said. And, if true, (and we should find out if it's true), this is potentially an Invincible telling a truth that the fans already know. If not true - then why not? Somebody at the club has to speak up and call these lazy, big bucks bastards out. You can't be taking all that money and just strolling around. Those days need to be gone. And if you are going to sulk and undermine every manager who tries to get a fair day's work out of you, then don't be wearing the shirt. Wear civvies if you are going to be a cunt.
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I don't think any manager coming in now would drop 90% of the first team. And I don't think any manager would get the financial support he needs from the Kroenke leeches (who have somehow convinced the fans that gate money and sponsorship money came out of their pockets). The cancer is at the top and it seeps down. These players can win, as you point out, but they can also coast, because the whole culture at Arsenal is not about winning and competing, it's about making ends meet and they boast about it. Sustainable club, blah, blah. Well you can be sustainable by overspending and winning trophies, like Liverpool and the gypos have demonstrated. It's he who dares wins, not he who budgets survives.
The club is rotten to the core. It was made rotten by Kroenke and Wenger and now we are seeing their handiwork come home to roost. Everyone looks for results in the span of a season. But a club fails over many seasons, and it takes just as long or even longer to reverse the course. When did Wenger leave? We've probably got another 3 years pain in order to wash away his poison and start again.
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There is an article in the daily mirror today (or might have been from yesterday) saying that the reason Arteta didn’t want Ozil in his squad is because of his inability to play on the flanks.
Why not use Ozil in the middle where his strengths are and sign a winger rather then trying to put a round peg in a square hole.
That’s because he’s a coach cut from the cloth of David Moyes.
I'd probably take Moyes right now, the 'ammers are doing better than us
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