Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal Player Rating and Match Reaction

[HCZ_Reborn]

One of the hard lessons one has to learn in life is that what we take to be objective fact, is not always shared by others

When we talk purely about Arsenal fans online, we are in the distinct minority. The majority of fans think the LEGO haired weirdo can do no wrong.

The argument they made is, how can we be lacking a striker when we scored 91 goals in the league last season. A fundamentally superficial and flawed argument but they made it all the same and with conviction

The underlying argument was that if Arteta thinks we need a defender more, that’s clearly got to be the case….

[HCZ_Reborn]

Because that is the only way to 'guarantee' a title win - which we should be doing this year after 5 years of spending millions to compete.
We can afford a couple of games point drops but realistically, no more than 2 games.


From this point in the season:
Liverpool can get a max total of 109 points
Citeh can get a max total of 104 points
We can get a max total of 100 points.

So if we are saying the average points needed to win is 90 - it doesn't leave us with much room to breathe

Don’t think anyone can guarantee a title win, not even City

The money spent should of course make it more likely than we can challenge

And I think people have pulled down the shutters in their belief that we won’t challenge, a wee bit early is all I’m saying

I get the despondency for sure, but there are simply too many floating variables to be fatalistic (imo)

[Letters]

No of course not, but if you took it in the context of what I was saying about the average points total to WTL, then we have far less wiggle room now than both of them.

Well of course, we are below them both.
But it's early enough in the season and we've had enough tricky fixtures already to make me believe the gap isn't unbridgeable.
Weirdly I feel more upbeat today than I did last week, despite falling a further 2 points back. City lost, we navigated another tricky away game with an acceptable result. Odegaard is back which will give us a boost. Like I said, let's see where we are at the turn of the year.

[Mac76]

I was on another Arsenal forum around August, and I got suspended after people piled on me for making such a suggestion

i thought it was because you called someone a c***?

[HCZ_Reborn]

i thought it was because you called someone a c***?

It escalated

[HCZ_Reborn]

But basically if I’m being 100% factually accurate they suspended my account because I literally dared them to do so, words to the effect of “Don’t threaten to suspend my account, either do it or don’t”.

But yeah they were an odd lot, took exception to me posting in non Arsenal topic posts (I have other interests outside of Arsenal football club), kept accusing me of being a previous user under a different identity (had honestly never been there before) and basically kept making the argument that I was being a bit too much considering I’d only recently joined and didn’t take kindly to the fact that I pointed out that, that was irrelevant

But the whole issue started because I’d claimed Arteta had fucked us over by spending the majority of the summer budget on a defender. The usual “you think you know better than Arteta what the team needs?” substitute for an argument followed and it escalated from there.

[Mac76]

TBH I don't get much change in the pub after the game if I'm critical of Arteta, I do get all the 'we nearly won the league etc'

but as we know, you can nearly win the league but still have faults

Arteta's obsession with never wanting to concede a goal ever is an unachievable fantasy, we need to score more at the other end if we're going to be contenders

our best hope is that Saka, Rice and Odegaard sit out these effing internationals and we can go again and try to start winning games, then get a goal-scorer in January to boost what will need to have been an already good run to give us even a chance

[HCZ_Reborn]

TBH I don't get much change in the pub after the game if I'm critical of Arteta, I do get all the 'we nearly won the league etc'

but as we know, you can nearly win the league but still have faults

Arteta's obsession with never wanting to concede a goal ever is an unachievable fantasy, we need to score more at the other end if we're going to be contenders

our best hope is that Saka, Rice and Odegaard sit out these effing internationals and we can go again and try to start winning games, then get a goal-scorer in January to boost what will need to have been an already good run to give us even a chance

I used to get people looking at me like I had two heads when I was critical of Aaron Ramsey

Sorry guys I don’t think he’s that good

But then again can’t remember going to the pub before or after an Arsenal game in an age, most of the pubs on the Holloway Road remind me too much of the central line during rush hour. That said, I don’t go to many games anymore…I’m not a season ticket holder and I don’t especially care for paying out £100 a game (I have a Twitter contact who if he’s not going to a game will offer me the ticket)

I heard it said (and I don’t know how true it is) that a lot of match going Arsenal fans, it’s just part of a ritual for them…win, lose or draw…they are happy as long as they’ve had their time away from the missus and the kids on a Saturday (of course you could really say that about any football fan)

[Mac76]

I heard it said (and I don’t know how true it is) that a lot of match going Arsenal fans, it’s just part of a ritual for them…win, lose or draw…they are happy as long as they’ve had their time away from the missus and the kids on a Saturday (of course you could really say that about any football fan)

Yes I think that's true of all fams on one level but the people I know are genuinely pissed off when we lose and happy when we win, i think our reasons for losing ate just seen differently, less of an underlying issue and more things happening on the day

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yes I think that's true of all fams on one level but the people I know are genuinely pissed off when we lose and happy when we win, i think our reasons for losing ate just seen differently, less of an underlying issue and more things happening on the day

Sounds about right