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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies View Post
    Let me guess

    ItS aLl AbOuT cOnTrOlL?

    Just like the Covid restrictions that never ended. Oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Let me guess

    ItS aLl AbOuT cOnTrOlL?

    Just like the Covid restrictions that never ended. Oh.
    By alternating between lower and upper you have really shown up the poster you are responding to as a raving conspiracy theorist. That's what I'm supposed to think from your hackneyed overuse of the go-to propaganda methods. Trouble is, I don't think that.

    Rather I think you are boring. A tried and long discredited auto-response to anything that sticks a toe outside the tight confines your masters have trained you to adhere to. It's so old. Still observed by millions, so I won't say you are out of the ordinary at this point - but nowhere near the total millions that used to buy this tired old bullshit.

    OF COURSE centralising data for use by the state is all about control. What else could it possibly be about? Convenience? That's the lowly price you will settle for?

    Obviously you have zero clue about what is happening in China. Neither do you have any clue about how deeply our "patriotic" leaders are compromised by China. And nor do you want to know, because then the convenience of it all would be somewhat tarnished by the horrific reality. You are the sort of person who needs to feel the dick between your cheeks before you'll even entertain the notion you are buggered. That's fine. None of my business if you want to behave that way.

    But your deep desire to try to shoot down anybody that cries, "Fuck, that hurts!", is the point where you cross the line. You don't even get paid to be a bitch, yet you are so proud and honoured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    By alternating between lower and upper you have really shown up the poster you are responding to as a raving conspiracy theorist.
    No. He shows himself up as one with virtually every post.
    And one would think that given his proclamations that the Covid restrictions wouldn't ever and - can we agree he was wrong about that? I mean, we don't seem to be able to agree that there were never curfews or checkpoints so maybe we can't, but there are no Covid restrictions round my way so I'm pretty confident that he was wrong.
    So given he was wrong about that why hasn't he taken a moment to consider why he was wrong and contemplate that maybe, just maybe, "they" aren't all out to get us.

    Rather I think you are boring.


    OF COURSE centralising data for use by the state is all about control. What else could it possibly be about? Convenience?
    Yes, mostly. And providing better services.
    Why do people go to supermarkets? Why do people shop online? Why do people mostly pay by card? It's convenient, that's why. People like that.
    And did you actually read this article? Here's part of a article on the same story:

    Physical licences will still be issued, but ministers believe the voluntary digital option will "drag government into the 2020s,"
    I've highlighted the key word there. See? You don't have to do this. If people want to then they can, if they don't then they don't have to.
    Just like you can still use cash if you want to. You can still go to real shops if you want to.

    Obviously you have zero clue about what is happening in China.
    What has that got to do with what happens in the West? Very different regime.

    But your deep desire to try to shoot down anybody that cries, "Fuck, that hurts!", is the point where you cross the line.
    Because they can never point to where it hurts. It's always some imagined dystopian future they point to, one which never arrives.
    Can we agree that your data is all over multiple systems. Mine definitely is, you probably try harder for yours not to be but you surely know it is anyway.
    And can we agree that via online or card purchases and phones with GPS and so on it's far easier for our activities to be tracked than ever before?

    Now all you need to do is tell me how that's affected your life. How has any of that led you to be controlled. Not some theoretical "but they could...". You tell me in practice how your life is more controlled these days. I mean, even during Covid when there actually were some quite draconian controls for a period you posted about how you observed people not sticking to the rules, people going about their normal lives. What happened, did all those people get rounded up and put in some facility?

    You give me some examples of how you are oppressed and controlled - not some theoretical.

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    So quite a few so called patriotic Brits have over the last couple of months expressed the fervent hope that Trump will invade Britain and free us from the woke tyranny of Starmer. Apart from having as much basis in reality as Maga art, you have to love the hypocrisy of people who have spent years talking about how the EU was a threat to British sovereignty.

    I had someone accuse me of TDS when I suggested that the return to office of a man who tried to overturn an Election he lost, probably doesn’t represent a return to sanity. This cancels out my brother who has accused me of being a Trump apologist because I think claims that America will not hold any more elections is based in hysteria rather than objective truth.

    Of course 4 years ago I remember the salty FBPE crowd hoping that Biden would ostracise the UK to punish Johnson for Brexit, so this kind of tribal vandalism is never unique to one side.

    I often feel like I’m in a perpetual atmosphere akin to The Naked Time episode of Star Trek where there’s a virus going around causing everyone to act batshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I often feel like I’m in a perpetual atmosphere akin to The Naked Time episode of Star Trek where there’s a virus going around causing everyone to act batshit


    It does feel like people are getting stupider but I think "louder" is the more likely explanation. The internet gives basically anyone a platform, you don't need to be particularly expert or knowledgeable to get an audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    It does feel like people are getting stupider but I think "louder" is the more likely explanation. The internet gives basically anyone a platform, you don't need to be particularly expert or knowledgeable to get an audience.
    Stupider isn’t the issue, it’s the cult mentality for a start. The total negation of considering
    Anything to be bad when it comes to your own side. Go back to 1974 and Richard Nixon’s impeachment that led to his resignation. This was a cross party affair, Republicans would have voted to convict in the senate just as eagerly as Democrats . It’s not something that’s happened overnight, we’ve seen naked partisanship for decades but there would always be a limit. But whether it’s Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in this country or Donald Trump in another….there is this immediate willingness to defend what they do, and a tendency to bristle when they are attacked

    And this is just in terms of individual politicians. This is before you get to the cult of Free Palestine, DEI or the Trad Christian/Incel nonsense on the other side. There’s this constant millenarianism vomited out by people who never took the time to learn how to think. It’s also about wanting to belong to a community I guess, being a misanthrope and an introvert means I’ve never been susceptible to that pull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    It does feel like people are getting stupider but I think "louder" is the more likely explanation. The internet gives basically anyone a platform, you don't need to be particularly expert or knowledgeable to get an audience.
    Jeez, you post links to the BBC web site. It's astonishing you have the nuts to call other people stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    So quite a few so called patriotic Brits have over the last couple of months expressed the fervent hope that Trump will invade Britain and free us from the woke tyranny of Starmer. Apart from having as much basis in reality as Maga art, you have to love the hypocrisy of people who have spent years talking about how the EU was a threat to British sovereignty.

    I had someone accuse me of TDS when I suggested that the return to office of a man who tried to overturn an Election he lost, probably doesn’t represent a return to sanity. This cancels out my brother who has accused me of being a Trump apologist because I think claims that America will not hold any more elections is based in hysteria rather than objective truth.

    Of course 4 years ago I remember the salty FBPE crowd hoping that Biden would ostracise the UK to punish Johnson for Brexit, so this kind of tribal vandalism is never unique to one side.

    I often feel like I’m in a perpetual atmosphere akin to The Naked Time episode of Star Trek where there’s a virus going around causing everyone to act batshit
    I suspect there are about 8 people who want Trump to invade Britistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Jeez, you post links to the BBC web site. It's astonishing you have the nuts to call other people stupid.
    That would work much better as a zinger if it wasn't coming from someone who decried two BBC articles as "fake news", both of which were entirely accurate.
    When's the curfew in your sector again?

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15znkk12xjo

    Well I’m glad we’ve sorted that out

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