When will Arteta be sacked by

[selassie]

Let's start by dealing with the facts, Arteta is a novice, he is learning on the job at what was previously one of the biggest and most important clubs in the country. Arteta has been given a very sizeable budget and plenty of time to shape the team. He has failed, the first half of last season was enough cause for concern, our current predicament is shameful. Arteta has absolutely no credit left, he can't turn this around because he doesn't have the experience or know how, he also shouldn't be given a penny more to spend. His position is untenable IMO, he has to go now.

[Xhaka Can’t]

don't expect the world's biggest conspiracy theorist to believe that for a second, it's obviousy all another plot by the lizard people to get at him, because of course that's their whole aim in life...

You know what?

I’d just like it to stop - including comments like yours that I’ve just quoted.

[Letters]

Let's start by dealing with the facts, Arteta is a novice, he is learning on the job at what was previously one of the biggest and most important clubs in the country. Arteta has been given a very sizeable budget and plenty of time to shape the team. He has failed, the first half of last season was enough cause for concern, our current predicament is shameful. Arteta has absolutely no credit left, he can't turn this around because he doesn't have the experience or know how, he also shouldn't be given a penny more to spend. His position is untenable IMO, he has to go now.

I think that’s something we can pretty much all agree on.
It always felt like a gamble but I was willing to give him a go. He talks a good game, I basically quite like him. But he feels massively out of his depth.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah cos a man who spent 20 years here will have no lingering effect just 3 years after he left. Totally logical. Many of the stupid players we have here today were bought by him. Yet he isnt to blame for anything. If we had gotten a proper manager after he left. Then you may have a point. Dont forget HE brought Arteta here. A walking clusterfuck of a player, before wenger bought his even worse clone called Xhaka.

Is that actually true?

Xhaka was signed by Wenger (but Arteta extended his contract lets not forget), Elneny & Kolisinac seem to be on the way out. Chambers & holding were also wenger signings as well as Auba & Lacazette but their contracts extended by other managers not Wenger.

Bellerin came through the youth academy was a a brilliant player up until his ACL injury (i cant remember if that was Wenger last season or emery first) but he has gone backwards since wenger left.

However, Luiz, Willian, Pepe, Partey, tieney, Cedric, Mari, Saliba, white, odegard, cellabos, torriera, all signed after wenger. Cant be blamed on him & some of those players are good so should be playing well if managed properly. Luiz was rubbish yet Arteta decided to extend his contract, less said about willian.



Even sides like Burnley, Norwich etc who fight relegation look like they have a structure in place. Their players are not hte best yet they look solid in defence at times & coherent in attack. Arsenal do not. How can sides like that look more organised than us be blamed on wenger? It is solely on the manager and his lack of ability

[Globalgunner]

Is that actually true?

Xhaka was signed by Wenger (but Arteta extended his contract lets not forget), Elneny & Kolisinac seem to be on the way out. Chambers & holding were also wenger signings as well as Auba & Lacazette but their contracts extended by other managers not Wenger.

Bellerin came through the youth academy was a a brilliant player up until his ACL injury (i cant remember if that was Wenger last season or emery first) but he has gone backwards since wenger left.

However, Luiz, Willian, Pepe, Partey, tieney, Cedric, Mari, Saliba, white, odegard, cellabos, torriera, all signed after wenger. Cant be blamed on him & some of those players are good so should be playing well if managed properly. Luiz was rubbish yet Arteta decided to extend his contract, less said about willian.



Even sides like Burnley, Norwich etc who fight relegation look like they have a structure in place. Their players are not hte best yet they look solid in defence at times & coherent in attack. Arsenal do not. How can sides like that look more organised than us be blamed on wenger? It is solely on the manager and his lack of ability

You must have missed the part where Im blaming Arteta for being a crap manager and keeping the crap players that existed before him and not selling the ones who could be sold and giving them new contracts plus buying even more crap players. What i dont accept is that Wenger had little to do with this. Hope that clears it up for you

[Ollie the Optimist]

You must have missed the part where Im blaming Arteta for being a crap manager and keeping the crap players that existed before him and not selling the ones who could be sold and giving them new contracts plus buying even more crap players. What i dont accept is that Wenger had little to do with this. Hope that clears it up for you

Clearly there were a few issues with Wenger in his last few years but he still finished in European places & won fa cup in 2017. Since then, the side has just fallen to new lows each season.

Perhaps structurally there are some issues but things that cannot be blamed on wenger are:

- lack of structure & tactics during games
- extending contracts of people like Luiz or buying willian
- managing to take a golden boot winner to couldn’t hit a barn door in space of year
- losing three games in a row with piss poor management

Most of these players didnt play under Wenger, and anyway it was 3 years ago, the club has spent millions since he left on players who should be good enough for European football. Partey, odegard, torriea etc but have been so poorly managed they have made no impact.

How can we keep blaming wenger for these shocking performances?

[Mac76]

by the way, this thread ought really to be called 'By when will Arteta be sacked?'

[Marc Overmars]

Wenger started it and the people who are in charge now have finished it.

It’s all collective, this club has been on a slippery slope for a very long time. The blame game is meaningless, there are a whole host of people equally responsible for this mess. A football club that has lost all ambition and sight of what is important.

[Mac76]

Wenger started it and the people who are in charge now have finished it.

It’s all collective, this club has been on a slippery slope for a very long time. The blame game is meaningless, there are a whole host of people equally responsible for this mess. A football club that has lost all ambition and sight of what is important.

You really do wonder who at the club cares a jot about it, who there has any emotional connection - i suppose Edu and Arteta might as former players but they're just kids, no-one in the club management or ownership gets it

As for the players the kids care, but the older players are c***s like Kola and Xhaka or jaded like Laca and Auba

Look how Abramovic runs Chelski, he knows what he and the fans want and he gets it done - yes they've more money than us but we've a bunch of really promising young players and we should sack Arteta right now and get a good established manager in

Another loser and this club really will be finished, wr've got one more chance at this or it's decades in the wilderness for us

[Marc Overmars]

By all accounts Xhaka was ready to leave yet somehow he’s ended up with a new deal. We’ve been trying to flog Kola for probably a year but he’s in the starting 11 against the champions. Spent 30m on a CB who isn’t deemed worthy enough of the squad and sent on loan for 2 years.

It’s difficult to fathom what’s going on at this club. Run by absolute fucking donuts.