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    Noone's saying that Arteta should be manager for life, or that he doesn't have his flaws. But in terms of sticking with him for the time being, its a no brainer.

    First - are we progressing as a team under him? Undoubtedly. I'll accept that if we'd had another end of the season like last year this could be questioned, but we haven't. Our team has shown a lot more resiliance at the sharp end of the season whatever happens and our results against our direct competitors for the league, and our traditionally strongest local deby opponents has been better than anyone else's. Plus our stats in both attack and defence are the best in the league. If we get pipped to the title by a monster team that has won the past 3 and 5 out of the last 6 league titles and is regarded as the world's best then we still deserve to be regarded as an elite team.

    Our first CL quarter final since 2010, and a narrow 1 goal defeat to bayern also clearly speaks to progress.

    Second - will we progress further under Arteta? The signs are good. He is clearly learning and developing as a manager, and the speed at which our team is evolving past recent key players - eg Jesus; Zinchenko; Partey; Ramsdale is self-evident. His decision making re our latest player purchases , and ability to persuade our best players to re-sign for the club (along with Edu) has been excellent and our mostly young team hads not reached its ceiling.

    Third - is there anyone else available who is better/likely to out perform Arteta at the present time? I would say no. This is of course partly because we are in the middle of his evolving project, but when you look at the names being mentioned for Liverpool; Manure - I don't think we can better our manager.

    Obviously things eveolve and potentially can change, but I am optimistic going into next season, however this one now ends.
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    I agree, I think the team is really bought into Arteta and if they can offload Zin plus a few others and then recuit well, we could have an even better season next year, but it does / should involve winning something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    I agree, I think the team is really bought into Arteta and if they can offload Zin plus a few others and then recuit well, we could have an even better season next year, but it does / should involve winning something
    Yes - its time for a trophy now
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    He’s taken us to the cusp of glory but he does need to get over the line sooner rather than later. Chelsea and United won’t be in the gutter forever and before we know it the competition will ramp up again. We don’t want to be like Spurs who missed their window of opportunity to do something with Poch.

    Then again I find it difficult to be too hard on him now given the strength of what we’re up against and also the fact no one other than Klopp has done much in recent years. I have no idea who could replace him so I’m happy for him to carry on while we’re seeing progress and there’s no doubt progress is what we’ve seen every year since that dismal 20/21 season.

    It’s May and there’s a possibility of us winning the league, this seemed so far away a few years ago that it wasn’t even worth dreaming about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Noone's saying that Arteta should be manager for life, or that he doesn't have his flaws. But in terms of sticking with him for the time being, its a no brainer.

    First - are we progressing as a team under him? Undoubtedly. I'll accept that if we'd had another end of the season like last year this could be questioned, but we haven't. Our team has shown a lot more resiliance at the sharp end of the season whatever happens and our results against our direct competitors for the league, and our traditionally strongest local deby opponents has been better than anyone else's. Plus our stats in both attack and defence are the best in the league. If we get pipped to the title by a monster team that has won the past 3 and 5 out of the last 6 league titles and is regarded as the world's best then we still deserve to be regarded as an elite team.

    Our first CL quarter final since 2010, and a narrow 1 goal defeat to bayern also clearly speaks to progress.

    Second - will we progress further under Arteta? The signs are good. He is clearly learning and developing as a manager, and the speed at which our team is evolving past recent key players - eg Jesus; Zinchenko; Partey; Ramsdale is self-evident. His decision making re our latest player purchases , and ability to persuade our best players to re-sign for the club (along with Edu) has been excellent and our mostly young team hads not reached its ceiling.

    Third - is there anyone else available who is better/likely to out perform Arteta at the present time? I would say no. This is of course partly because we are in the middle of his evolving project, but when you look at the names being mentioned for Liverpool; Manure - I don't think we can better our manager.

    Obviously things eveolve and potentially can change, but I am optimistic going into next season, however this one now ends.
    You missed the most important development. We now sometimes play football that is entertaining. That hasn't happened in many years and is the ONLY reason this league should exist. After all, it is entirely funded by the fans, whether they pay for tickets or get robbed by Sky, TNT, and the other platforms you can't get but cost £2.99 in Norway.

    Arteta has brought decent football. It's almost like a miracle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    He’s taken us to the cusp of glory but he does need to get over the line sooner rather than later. Chelsea and United won’t be in the gutter forever and before we know it the competition will ramp up again. We don’t want to be like Spurs who missed their window of opportunity to do something with Poch.

    Then again I find it difficult to be too hard on him now given the strength of what we’re up against and also the fact no one other than Klopp has done much in recent years. I have no idea who could replace him so I’m happy for him to carry on while we’re seeing progress and there’s no doubt progress is what we’ve seen every year since that dismal 20/21 season.

    It’s May and there’s a possibility of us winning the league, this seemed so far away a few years ago that it wasn’t even worth dreaming about.
    I view it more that he's dug us out of a sea of manure. We have been so incredibly shit for so long, and now we are only incredibly shit part of the time. That's the most progress we've had in 2 decades. Racking my brains to think who could achieve more. Pep? Look at his shit-kickers against Madrid. Couldn't buy the refs that day, could he? We actually won it this year, if not for VAR and the cheques from Arabia. Name somebody who could come in and actually push the most corrupt club in the history of football right up to the finish line.
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    I think we have to start asking the question again about Arteta. His negative tactics cost us a win yesterday, we’ve spent a ridiculous amount on defenders yet we are shipping goals right, left and centre (conceded 9 in last 5). We were given an absolute gift with Rodri being out for the season yet we are determined to squander that opportunity in service to this inadequate man’s ego.

    That Liverpool side is bang average, a few ageing stars like Van Dijk and Salah masks a litany of mediocrity. I don’t care what our defensive issues were, they were shit yesterday and we failed to punish them.

    Arteta needs to go at the end of the season. We all know we aren’t winning the title, yes we know that referees are targeting us but we are just hiding behind that now

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I think we have to start asking the question again about Arteta. His negative tactics cost us a win yesterday, we’ve spent a ridiculous amount on defenders yet we are shipping goals right, left and centre (conceded 9 in last 5). We were given an absolute gift with Rodri being out for the season yet we are determined to squander that opportunity in service to this inadequate man’s ego.

    That Liverpool side is bang average, a few ageing stars like Van Dijk and Salah masks a litany of mediocrity. I don’t care what our defensive issues were, they were shit yesterday and we failed to punish them.

    Arteta needs to go at the end of the season. We all know we aren’t winning the title, yes we know that referees are targeting us but we are just hiding behind that now
    I'm honestly fuming this morning!

    Arteta has destroyed the team this season, our whole gameplay has been turned into prime Joseball. In what world do we get a goal ahead and then try and shut up shop???
    It's fucking inane!

    Liverpool looked bang average today and we were on top for the last 25 mins of the 1st half - 2nd half we come out and sit in our own half and do nothing!
    Salah allowed to run through 4 fucking players unhindered ffs!

    We were playing like we were down to 10 men again from the whistle 2nd half. Disgraceful!

    Then I'm hearing excuses how we don't have Odegaard so we a lacking creativity - and yet we kept attacking and keeping pressure on them enough to score 2 goals in the 1st half!
    You can't have it both ways.

    This stupid sitting on a goal and going all out defend gameplan is bullshit and fuck knows what Arteta is doing!?!

    And I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in any of this blaming the ref bullshit - We should have finished them off long before the end of the game!

    We ain't winning fuck all this season now, top four battle in May you wait and see if this shit continuous.
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