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Thread: Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Pepe has finally gone. Signs for Trabzonspor in Turkey for 3m.
    only a £69m loss then

    good piece of business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Pepe has finally gone. Signs for Trabzonspor in Turkey for 3m.
    A totally pointless sale, would have been better to have kept him.

    I mean if we can keep Havertz who in his short time has denied teammates 2 goal scoring opportunities, contributed to 2 goals for the opposition and squandered countless chances in about 5 matches, we should have space for Pepe whose only sin is he is not the kind of player Arteta likes. A stupid decision on par with getting rid of Torrieira when we still had the likes of Xhaka in the books

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    A totally pointless sale, would have been better to have kept him.

    I mean if we can keep Havertz who in his short time has denied teammates 2 goal scoring opportunities, contributed to 2 goals for the opposition and squandered countless chances in about 5 matches, we should have space for Pepe whose only sin is he is not the kind of player Arteta likes. A stupid decision on par with getting rid of Torrieira when we still had the likes of Xhaka in the books

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    I suspect a lot of it is getting players like that off the wage bill, on balance I’d have sooner kept him but when he’s had the chance to restart his career with a loan in France and it’s fair to say that this wasn’t a particular success neither can the decision be called a baffling one.

    I always thought he was a bit one dimensional and a bit lazy. And I shouldn’t think it likely that he takes Turkey by storm

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I suspect a lot of it is getting players like that off the wage bill, on balance I’d have sooner kept him but when he’s had the chance to restart his career with a loan in France and it’s fair to say that this wasn’t a particular success neither can the decision be called a baffling one.

    I always thought he was a bit one dimensional and a bit lazy. And I shouldn’t think it likely that he takes Turkey by storm
    I was going to moan that Arteta killed Pepe a bit - and he was certainly in the category of players who appear to have been treated unfairly by the manager (Smith Rowe anyone?). But the highlighted part of your post probably sums the player up perfectly...
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    I was going to moan that Arteta killed Pepe a bit - and he was certainly in the category of players who appear to have been treated unfairly by the manager (Smith Rowe anyone?). But the highlighted part of your post probably sums the player up perfectly...
    agreeing with one of HCZ's predictions is a risky game - i believe that statistically, they have 0.0001% of being correct...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    agreeing with one of HCZ's predictions is a risky game - i believe that statistically, they have 0.0001% of being correct...

    Better than making wild guesses and telling yourself you were right by making definitive statements

    But then again someone who believes cancel culture is a myth is usually beholden to an ideological way of thinking that they can’t or won’t break through. Cancel culture to one extent or another has always existed but it’s more the liberal left responsible for it because they control the culture currently even if not the politics and social media has exacerbated it.

    I’m surprised you haven’t given me a completely misunderstood interpretation of Karl Popper yet, because people will inevitably gravitate from it doesn’t exist to it does exist but actually it’s a good thing

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    Hi guys - not posted in a while. Been away for a bit. Last posted when AW was manager.
    Have to say mainly positive stuff about Arteta but we still seem to far too slow with transfers & gettting rid of the dross. All the recent lot leaving either sold or loaned should have happened ages ago freeing up squad spaces, salaries & maybe to allow another purchase. My main issue is Havertz. Can anyone explain Artetas reasoning on this & what he is trying do. In my opinion, Xhaka has stunk us out for years & another reason to question Arteta but has he managed to replace him with someone even worse. Can ESR not do his role, would Maddison or even Ward Prowse not been a better idea for left mid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    Hi guys - not posted in a while. Been away for a bit. Last posted when AW was manager.
    GW blocked in jails?

    Have to say mainly positive stuff about Arteta but we still seem to far too slow with transfers & gettting rid of the dross.
    I don't think the former is true in the summer just gone. We did our business early. The Rice things dragged on a bit but it was still done way before the season started, no deadline day scrambling this year.
    The latter...well, maybe.
    My concern is more whether we've done good business. Expectations are raised after last season and so far it's not really clicked this season. But results have been mostly good so far so it's a bit early to push the panic button.

    My main issue is Havertz.
    I think that's everyone's main issue

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    Unlike other people on here, I do think Havertz is a talented player. However I don’t believe he’s a central midfielder and I think given he’s not and out and out striker either, the money would have better spent on a box to box player or on a striker (though I still think that would have left us light in midfield)

    I’ve had people say to me he reminds them of Ozil. I don’t know…I think Ozil was one of the most technically accomplished players in the game. As much as I disliked him personally because of a horrible attitude, he was also a privilege to watch (especially if you watched games from the upper tier where he was giving the crowd a lesson in three dimensional geometry with his passing). Havertz isn’t that level, he’s decent technically, he can hold up the ball well and he seems to have a good reading of the game but he seems at least to me utterly confused as to what he’s been asked to do as well as seemingly lacking the confidence to execute what he is doing.

    Getting a lot of people on twitter moralising how the Arsenal fans on social media are getting on his case, well tough. He’s played for Germany for years…they expect the best and they expect you to be mentally strong (although didn’t see evidence of either in their 4-1 hammering to Japan on Saturday). And that’s where I additionally question him. This is a guy who clearly doesn’t have a strong mentality. He’s not a dickhead like Ozil, but this is somehow whose head goes down when things go against him. There’s often a lack of conviction in what he’s doing.

    And frankly he needs to be taught that he needs to earn his place but Arteta has spent 65 million on him desperate to prove it’s not a waste of money. Where as the obvious way to get from him what he thinks he’s capable of is to bench him and use him as an impact substitute

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