Lot of Ivan Toney traffic circulating about a potential January move. He wouldn’t be my first choice, if we were going to buy English I’d much prefer a player like Ollie Watkins. But I’m not against the move either (providing he’s learned his lesson over his questionable betting practices). We clearly need another dimension up front, and he certainly would give us that
The women's team have set the record for biggest WSL attendance this afternoon against Liverpool.
The Angel didn't get quite the rousing reception it does for the men's games
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Good for them - it's total shiteOriginally Posted by WMUG
The Angel didn't get quite the rousing reception it does for the men's games
The women's team is too white apparantly
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-in-team-photo
From left to right:
Back row: yeah, nah, no, no, no, YES, yes
Middle: yeah, nah, yeah, yeah, no, NO, yeah, yeah, yeah, no
Front: no, no, no, no, no, man, yes, no, yeah, no, no
I don't think we can be blamed for that, it's obviously not a deliberate policy and our men's team proves the point that we'll sign whoever seem like the best players (apart from Havertz and Zin ofc), that said maybe there's something we can do around having a particular scheme for girls from deprived areas or something and offer things like safe travel
as for your selections, the 'NO' made me laugh (we both probably think she really wouldn't be interested) but I'm not sure why middle left gets the nod and some of the others don't
The one to the right of the guy is nice but looks hard to get, if I saw them all in a bar I'd probably go for one of the two to the right of 'NO', they look more approachable
It’s kind of funny how women’s football is a microcosm for how actually gender norms are self-selecting. Across most clubs and international teams there is a plurality of women footballers that are in relationships with fellow professionals. Some obvious like the NO one in the middle but others the more stereotypically feminine ones (some are shacked up with the short haired Megan Rapinoe type, others not)
It’s I suppose a bit like the girls that were referred to as Tom Boys back in the day because they were more sporty or liked to rough house with the boys….whilst not all were lesbians they were far more likely to turn out to be than the more girly girls.
I think apart from anything else trying to enforce gender norms unnecessary because largely most from a young age will conform to those norms naturally and it’s not necessarily a form of societal conditioning, and those that don’t are more the outliers.
That’s what transing kids is, enforcing gender norms. Mother says “my little boy likes to play with dolls” “oh well he’s a girl born in a boys body then” fuck sake…no…let him figure it out for himself and ultimately prepare yourself that the first time he brings a girl home to meet you, they are most likely going to be called Harold.
I think that makes it a lot more healthy, no-one cares if someone's gay or not and no-ones's going to to do silly Robbie-Fowler type homophobic gestures
Not sure that would necessarily apply to the men’s game though. Anyone who has been going to football matches for 20 years or more and frankly hasn’t joined in a chant that would now be considered homophobic is in my view a liar.
Plus let’s be fair there’s people in the crowd who might make mocking statements as fair game banter, and there are a lot of people who genuinely despise homosexuals (largely our friends in the Muslim and Afro-Caribbean community) and given football is a money making enterprise…you’ll probably not get many gay male footballers want to come out.
The reason female homosexuality is seen as different from male is because much of the religious disapproval refers strictly to sodomy/buggery (and the laws that existed here and still exist in the many countries) and because women don’t have any sexual agency in these societies it’s not really considered (there’s often corrective rape in African countries…but most of the homophobic language is in reference to anal sex)
Even in this country before homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967, the laws largely referred to male on male penetrative sex
The latest TV fixture changes have been announced - includes the Palace game put off by an entire week, and couple of 8.15pm midweek KOs
ok so the opposition are Luton and West Spam so they don't have far to go but still it looks like Amazon don't give a flying one about people having to travel late......
Luton Town v Arsenal
Tuesday 5th December 2023
Kick off: 8.15pm (originally 7.45pm)
Live on Amazon Prime Video
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Saturday 9th December 2023
Kick off: 5.30pm (originally 3.00pm)
Live on Sky Sports
Liverpool v Arsenal
Saturday 23rd December 2023
Kick off: 5.30pm (originally 3.00pm)
Live on Sky Sports
Arsenal v West Ham United
Thursday 28th December 2023 (originally Tuesday 26th December)
Kick off: 8.15pm
Live on Amazon Prime Video
Fulham v Arsenal
Sunday 31st December 2023 (originally Saturday 30th December)
Kick off: 2.00pm
Live on Sky Sports
Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Saturday 20th January 2024 (originally Saturday 13th January)
Kick off: 12.30pm
Live on TNT Sports
Additionally, we can confirm that the following fixture has been re-arranged due to Brighton & Hove Albion's participation in the UEFA Europa League the preceding Thursday:
Arsenal v Brighton & Hove Albion
Sunday 17th December 2023 (originally Saturday 16th December)
Kick off: 2.00pm
The old winter break in effect I see. Have to say fair enough really, with the way the fixtures were completely realigned to facilitate a World Cup in an oil rich kleptocracy…there hasn’t been a real significant rest period for players, and with the European championships coming up that makes it two long seasons back to back.
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