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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    And yes, we can spend 20 million -- dare I say even 30million --- on a worldclass player if we wanted to based on our spending the past few seasons. Wenger doesn't see the value of that. ANOTHER MANGER WITH BALLS WOULD!
    And that is all that is needed.
    Wrong.

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    If spending £30m on one player this summer puts us in financial trouble then i must seriously question our financial state.

    We dont need players. We have enough of those. We need quality players and that we have hardly any of and that unfortunately costs money.

    Keep buying midtable players for cheap and we eventually become a mid table side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I agree with everything you said.
    and some managers can be too cautious at it!

    just as some managers can be too ambitious at it!

    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    So wenger can be less cautious and grow a pair and spend what he has got to address serious problem areas in the squad. WE DO NOT NEED A SUGAR-DADDY for that.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Wrong.
    ok, boss.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    If spending £30m on one player this summer puts us in financial trouble then i must seriously question our financial state.

    We dont need players. We have enough of those. We need quality players and that we have hardly any of and that unfortunately costs money.

    Keep buying midtable players for cheap and we eventually become a mid table side.
    Top post mate!
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
    seriously youve gone mental

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Did you even watch the AST interview?

    More than ever it was stressed just how financially constricted we were. Any other manager coming here would have to operate in the same way as far as transfers are concerned. Structural problem. Wenger could dip into a one time repositry to buy players and will do so this summer, but NO MANAGER OF ARSENAL AT THIS CURRENT POINT IN TIME CAN BUY PLAYERS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF VALUE. A handicap our rivals do not have!
    The problem is nobody knows or can define financially constricted or limited spend. We're financially constricted in comparison to Chelsea & Citeh because they have unlimited funds so to speak, but are we really that restricted compared to everybody else.

    That quote from Ivan just backs up what everybody already knows anyway, Arsene sets his valuation on a player & if the selling club wants more Arsene wont entertain the deal.

    I say this quite a bit on here but "a glass of water is worth a fortune to a man dieing of thirst". This is how I view our situation at times and why I'm baffled to why Arsene isn't a little more flexible in the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    ok, boss.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I got from watching the AST interview was that:

    We have to be "efficient" in the transfer market

    We have a limited budget for new players, have to live within our means

    We have a one time fund for purchases (IE, we can't spunk +20mill on players every window, we may do it this summer because FFP starts next season)

    And that includes consideration on wages, fee's and everything else as there's no distinction as far as the board is concerned. So 2 10mill player signings takes about 30mill from whatever kitty we had.

    Seemed quite depressing to hear actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    If spending £30m on one player this summer puts us in financial trouble then i must seriously question our financial state.

    We dont need players. We have enough of those. We need quality players and that we have hardly any of and that unfortunately costs money.

    Keep buying midtable players for cheap and we eventually become a mid table side.
    Okay, who and when was the last top level player that Man U bought?
    Smalling
    Lindegaard
    Bebe
    Hernandez
    Obertan
    Diouf

    Valencia
    Owen
    While all answers are responses, not all responses are answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    seriously youve gone mental
    sure, if that's what you call stating facts and repeating them to those who keep ignoring them.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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