They've been the best team in the tournament. Won every game in the tournament.
We were pretty good tonight, Spain were just...better.
They've been the best team in the tournament. Won every game in the tournament.
We were pretty good tonight, Spain were just...better.
One thing's for sure, with a decent manager next time with the squad we'll have in two years should be an exciting proposition
Chiellini can't help laughing
60 years of hurt...
Southgate needs to go now. You can’t win a game against a team like that by safety first. I hope with him being a decent guy that he realises this and chooses to stand down. Spain were the better side so can have no complaints about the result, but when Palmer got the equaliser they were rattled and we just stood off and became passive again.
The result could have been the same, but in my mind it’s shameful not to go for it.
Player ratings
Pickford 7 - Made some good saves to prevent the scoreline from being worse
Shaw 7 - Started well and kept Yamal on a tight leash
Stones 6 - Little avant garde at times but was one of the few players prepared to play out
Guehi 5.5 - Hilariously out of his depth
Walker 5 - Often lacking in positional discipline
Mainoo 5 - Didn’t make much of an impact on the game
Rice 6 - Did well defensively, but often a bit careless in possession
Bellingham 6 - Forced wide a lot, little chance to make an impact
Foden 5 - Returned to being the player he was for most of the tournament
Saka 6 - Great run and cut inside to set Palmer up for equaliser but didn’t see enough of the ball to have an impact, often had to wait for Walker on the overlap
Kane 3.5 - I don’t know if he was carrying a knock or whether he’d developed a curious phobia of penalty boxes. Despite what some desperately obsessed individuals might claim you don’t become Englands top all time scorer by being rubbish…and he managed three in this tournament despite being rubbish in this tournament.
Subs
Palmer 7.5 - Not just because of the goal but this was his best appearance from the bench, sharp and dynamic…gave the ball away couple of times but again was situated too deep because of over cautious manager
Watkins 6 - Did not have the impact he had against the Netherlands
Toney - Not worth giving a rating to
I never said he was always rubbish but he's not right any more, we have a creative team which needs a better outlet than that
The better team by far won.
England for whatever reason just don’t seem to have the capability to keep the ball with any composure. I was more gutted after the Italy final where as this game panned out how how a lot of people suspected it would. We just didn’t play with any confidence and like most of the tournament were just relying on some individual moments of brilliance.
Southgate has to go. I respect the work he’s done but this group of players need more inspiration because in terms of ability they’re not far off but are just missing a spark.
He had a poor tournament. I don’t think he was fully fit, his season in Germany shows he’s still “got it”. But the World Cup is 2 years away and at his age he’s only going to decline now. We do need to look at other options for that one.Originally Posted by Mac76
ofc the bad news is apparenty the FA want Southgate to stay and he's sufficiently lacking in self-awareness that he might well do so
If he does that's two more years wasted which would be highly damaging
this time it's ok, as we had a young squad and they all have gained useful expeience, but if it's Southgate again they will continue to underperform and some players won't get the kind of game time they should
Also England need Ben White which means Souhtgate and Johnny Vegas going
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