Its so childish to be unable to reply a post without being abusive. Its a reflection of your present reality. You cheered it on while it was happening. Welcome to the world you created. and reality has nothing to do with what Ukraine wants. Ukraine will accept whatever is given to them come November. The West never thought about what Serbians wanted when you bombed Belgrade, What Iraqis, Libyans and Syrians wanted. You saw a soft target and gathered yourselves to show em whose boss. Not so easy this time with Ukraine eh?. Rally the boys and give it a go, see how that turns out