US Election & Politics - We're Making America Great Again!

[The Wengerbabies]

We also get the hottest first lady ever back in the Whitehouse. Smoking.

She's past it but we have a great first granddaughter

[The Wengerbabies]

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1854257782075322596

Trump's knowledge is severely underestimated. He will be good for world peace.

[Niall_Quinn]

There's an incredible map doing the rounds that displays, at a county level for every state, regions where Harris outperformed Biden. It is blank.

She didn't match Biden in any county in any state. Anywhere.

It's the most perfect failure in US election campaign history.

[Niall_Quinn]

CardiB is leaving the US now Trump has won. Good for her, one of the few to follow through on her promise and gift to America.

The Royal Navy needs to be vigilant over the next few weeks in case she heads in this direction.

[Letters]

OMG, the bitch is giving her concession speech and she's citing the Constitution and God as the principles under which she stands. This is beyond shameful, she'll literally say anything she is told to.

She did at least give one rather than stamping her feet and holding her breath until they declared her the winner. So that's something.

[Letters]

Why do you need "sources" to verify what's real in your world? If you are waiting for a bus, do you scan the BBC waiting for the "Bus Arrives!" article? The fucking bus is there.

Well yes, that's something I can experience directly so correct, I don't need a source for that. But I might use a "source" like an app to find out when a bus is going to arrive, I can then compare that with direct experience to find out how reliable the source is. To find out when buses arrive in America I would need to find a source which tells me and would have no way of directly verifying that.

You can get every single case filed in every court online. Or, if you can't be bothered, you can find any number of independent channels online that review the COURT DOCUMENTS, not the biased take on those documents by financially invested media sources.

Those "independent channels" are sources. You weren't in court, neither was I. So we need a source to tell us what happened.
And if you want to point me in the direction of one of those channels you regard as independent then I will have a look.

What the hell does the USPS worker have to do with it? Is that your effort to dismiss the entire democrat ballot harvesting campaign in 2020?

It speaks to your ability to assess evidence. An example from that is you claimed the worker secretly recorded the interview as if that was some kind of "gotcha". Actually he told them about half way through that he was recording, they said that was fine and allowed him to continue - had they not done so then you wouldn't be able to listen to it.
Another example from Covid, your claim that the WHO admitted the tests didn't work. It took me 5 minutes tops to look at their website and find out that what they actually said was that if you want them to work then you have to use them properly.
In both cases your extreme distrust of authority led you to wrong conclusions.

The democrat hob-nobs have confirmed all this by the way, they boasted about "fortifying" the election. None of this is a secret.

Cool, then it should be easy to provide a source. The above paragraph is why I'm suspicious of any of your claims but if you have evidence of this then let's see it.

Getting back to the original post, I gave the reasons why and how Biden managed to get 80+ million votes. Doesn't need manipulation of machines (although that happened in some cases), or changing ballots (although that also happened in some cases). It was their ground game that generated the votes, much of it conducted outside the rules of the state legislatures - rules which were challenged and heard in courts and in multiple cases ruled as unlawful and/ or unconstitutional.

The claims Trump was making were machines switching votes, dumps of votes for Biden in the middle of the night, dead people voting, more people voting than actually lived in an area.
All of those claims should have been very easy to evidence, they all fell flat in court.
Remember the Kraken? The "evidence coming in through a fire hose"? What happened to all that?
Actually there WAS a lot of evidence...the trouble is it was almost all complete horseshit. Having a lot of people saying "I think I saw a thing" - which is basically what the USPS dude said - isn't credible evidence of widespread voter fraud. Which brings me back to my scepticism of your claims - you said the USPS dude witnessed voter fraud. He just didn't and didn't claim to.
You claimed the agents were trying to get him to change his story. Actually the agents read a statement which was written for him and when they did so he admitted that it massively overstated what he'd seen.

It really is a poor show the way you go on. For you "debate" is a series of Google searches and copy/ pated links.

There's a bit more to it than that, but yes I provide sources for my claims. You do not. I happen to think claims should be evidenced. Otherwise they're just you or me saying a thing.

You don't put in the legwork to be able to understand the topics you are discussing.

I'm very happy to be educated, but you are going to have to evidence the things you claim and provide sources.

[IBK]

This is a good, short and quite convincing summary of the reasons for Trump's win.

[HCZ_Reborn]

This is a good, short and quite convincing summary of the reasons for Trump's win.

Not a fan of Konstantin Kisin, because he claims to be a neutral guy who criticises both sides but only ever criticises the left (which is fine I can’t stand the left), but then claimed a month ago that Trump would be the saviour of western civilisation. Anyone who claims that doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously, anymore than someone who claims Trump will be the end of democracy. Also this wouldn’t apply to me as I absolutely DID see this coming.

And frankly anyone surprised by this has learnt absolutely nothing over the past eight years

[Letters]

I think this sums it up more succinctly and accurately



All the stuff that you would think should completely disqualify Trump as president...most people don't care about it. They just know they're struggling to feed their family, blame the Democrats (I would argue erroneously) and believe Trump will make things better (ditto).

[HCZ_Reborn]

I think this sums it up more succinctly and accurately



All the stuff that you would think should completely disqualify Trump as president...most people don't care about it. They just know they're struggling to feed their family, blame the Democrats (I would argue erroneously) and believe Trump will make things better (ditto).

Dominic Sandbrook is the co-host of The Rest is History which is one of my favourite things to listen to. Presents History in an informative, interesting and actually quite an amusing way. And yeah I think a lot of the stuff that is supposed to be important to political hobbyists is soap opera to everyone else. I’m not sure I completely agree with you that it’s erroneous to blame the Democrats for inflation, when you do Quantative Easing of any kind it has to be targeted and giving people money won’t mean shit if the supply chain has been affected and in fact will just devalue the money that you’ve given out. So whilst they didn’t cause the inflationary problems, you can absolutely argue that they exacerbated the issue.

For all the myriad things Labour have got wrong so far, they recognised that basic economic rule at least