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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Go on then, I’ll bite.
    Why?
    Yeah sure. But why do you say you'll "bite"? Either you are interested to know something or you are not. By "biting" do you mean you are curious to hear so you can raise an objection? All I did was give people a choice. Herbert decided to "ignore" me by answering me, odd isn't it? You seem to have decided to pay attention to the point where you can gain enough material to discredit me by whatever means, would that be a fair reading?

    Anyway, I'm thinking we'll be having an uncommon number of bank "holidays" this coming year where you may lose access to you bank accounts, maybe for extended periods of time. So it would be useful to have cash set aside so you aren't one of the people blankly staring at the 20th cash machine that has no cash.

    There's a convergence of critical issues in play. The impeding implosion of Deutsche Bank, already bankrupt but being propped up primarily by the German state which, itself, is now on the verge of economic disfunction due to the catastrophe in Ukraine initiated in Washington by our "allies". A war that has been comprehensively lost by NATO and is now increasingly opposed by the majority within the US, to the point where further funding is looking doubtful. In response, the US, UK and the EU stand on the brink of perpetrating an almost unbelievable economic crime that will shatter faith in the global economic system. They intend to steal Russian assets and direct them back into the already lost war. A short term solution, for sure, but the long term consequences, which even the central banksters warn about, will have unknowable effects that will surely trickle down to the man in the street.

    And, of course, the election in the US, which will usher instability in ways we can't imagine yet as the establishment pushes away all pretence and does whatever it takes to prevent the landslide election of Trump.

    The US is now 34 trillion in debt and will need to squeeze the people to even make interest payments. The UK has siphoned off £800billion from the people to the super rich during the covid wealth transfer. Both nations have run out of options for simply printing more cash - debtors won't stand for their assets being diluted any further. If there's a default on either economy, or of we end up on the verge of default - who knows what desperate steps might be taken to kick the can down the road?

    This is going to be an interesting year, to understate things. We rely almost entirely on magic plastic and buzzing surveillance devices posing as phones to conduct our everyday activities. But it's all an illusion. Some of the banks are leveraged at ratios that dwarf the relatively sustainable 10:1. Some have claimed Deutsche Bank is leveraged to such a degree that a single domino could wipe away a greater sum than the entire US national debt, and that the managers within that organisation don't even understand the nature of most of that debt, and the insurances against the debts.

    Also, the Chinese situation could explode at any time between now and 2050. Extinction level declining birth rates, the blind reliance on a bankrupt US trade system (ironically supported by a sudden, but temporary, reprieve from new trade with Russia). There are no super powers remaining, only super liabilities.

    The system must collapse at some point, it's a mathematically certainty. And what better time to bite the bullet and bring it down when the urgency to deter Trump 2024 is at it's height?

    This will be the year, I think. Just my opinion of course, based on reading and reasoning and avoiding misdirection from the usual suspects. There are hundreds of other indicators too, but we don't have all day, do we? No we don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Are we all just pretending that we didn’t see then Prince Charles now King Charles on the Epstein client list
    You mean the fraction of the list that has been released for the viewing pleasure of the public? Yes, I would expect to see Charles behind bars by the end of the year - or not. Best not to get too distracted during these important times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    I would also like to know the significance of the Epstein client list (can't be arsed to look it up). Is the mob now claiming that if anyone was a client of Epstein they are a peado
    The mob? Do you think most people still pay heed to the piper? This will fly over the heads of most, with the exception of the occasional deep dive into whatever tasty morsels the media throws out to entice what they hope will be a mob. But its working less and less. It's like the donkey that knows it will never get a bite of that carrot - so fuck the stick, fuck the carrot. Many people, I think, just don't care any more. They know, even if there was video of Charles banging a newborn up the anus, nothing would ever happen to him. They've figured that much out. Sadly, they've reached the conclusion they can't do anything about it. This is wrong, they could do a lot. But that's not how they have been brought up to think.

    I suppose a more interesting question, that will never be touched, is how can a US Attorney General, a senior coroner and the entire mainstream media gaze into the camera and tell such easily dismissible lies? How did we reach a point where we tolerate it - with some like GP even defending it? Because if we won't raise a complaint even as children are being brutally raped and tortured, then what makes any of us think we'll act to find out who raped and tortured them? Don't forget, the Maxwell trial (I'll use that word in jest) found a single creature guilty of a few of the countless crimes that had many accomplices. Whoever those accomplices are, we now see the main game is not justice for the victims via a serious investigation but instead celebrity bingo, where everything is here-say and everything will be prejudiced so it will never see its day in court. It's quite clever actually. In an evil way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Yeah sure. But why do you say you'll "bite"? Either you are interested to know something or you are not. By "biting" do you mean you are curious to hear so you can raise an objection? All I did was give people a choice. Herbert decided to "ignore" me by answering me, odd isn't it? You seem to have decided to pay attention to the point where you can gain enough material to discredit me by whatever means, would that be a fair reading?
    So I'm going to reply to this paragraph before I read the rest, so it doesn't prejudice me.
    My gut feeling is that I'm going to find your explanation nonsensical. But when I said "bite" - your initial post reminded me of one of those posts some people do on FB where they say they're stressed or in hospital or whatever, providing no other explanation. It feels they just do it so people ask how they are. I'm sure you weren't quite doing that, but if you're going to post something like that it's rather begging the question "so why should I do that then?". That's all I really meant.

    Anyway, I'm thinking we'll be having an uncommon number of bank "holidays" this coming year where you may lose access to you bank accounts, maybe for extended periods of time. So it would be useful to have cash set aside so you aren't one of the people blankly staring at the 20th cash machine that has no cash.
    There's a convergence of critical issues in play. The impeding implosion of Deutsche Bank, already bankrupt but being propped up primarily by the German state which, itself, is now on the verge of economic disfunction due to the catastrophe in Ukraine initiated in Washington by our "allies". A war that has been comprehensively lost by NATO and is now increasingly opposed by the majority within the US, to the point where further funding is looking doubtful. In response, the US, UK and the EU stand on the brink of perpetrating an almost unbelievable economic crime that will shatter faith in the global economic system. They intend to steal Russian assets and direct them back into the already lost war. A short term solution, for sure, but the long term consequences, which even the central banksters warn about, will have unknowable effects that will surely trickle down to the man in the street.
    And, of course, the election in the US, which will usher instability in ways we can't imagine yet as the establishment pushes away all pretence and does whatever it takes to prevent the landslide election of Trump.
    The US is now 34 trillion in debt and will need to squeeze the people to even make interest payments. The UK has siphoned off £800billion from the people to the super rich during the covid wealth transfer. Both nations have run out of options for simply printing more cash - debtors won't stand for their assets being diluted any further. If there's a default on either economy, or of we end up on the verge of default - who knows what desperate steps might be taken to kick the can down the road?
    This is going to be an interesting year, to understate things. We rely almost entirely on magic plastic and buzzing surveillance devices posing as phones to conduct our everyday activities. But it's all an illusion. Some of the banks are leveraged at ratios that dwarf the relatively sustainable 10:1. Some have claimed Deutsche Bank is leveraged to such a degree that a single domino could wipe away a greater sum than the entire US national debt, and that the managers within that organisation don't even understand the nature of most of that debt, and the insurances against the debts.
    Also, the Chinese situation could explode at any time between now and 2050. Extinction level declining birth rates, the blind reliance on a bankrupt US trade system (ironically supported by a sudden, but temporary, reprieve from new trade with Russia). There are no super powers remaining, only super liabilities.
    The system must collapse at some point, it's a mathematically certainty. And what better time to bite the bullet and bring it down when the urgency to deter Trump 2024 is at it's height?
    This will be the year, I think. Just my opinion of course, based on reading and reasoning and avoiding misdirection from the usual suspects. There are hundreds of other indicators too, but we don't have all day, do we? No we don't.
    Holy shit. Well, firstly, it wasn't quite the flight of fancy I'd imagined. There's a lot to unpack there. And most of it I don't feel remotely qualified to comment on.
    To be honest, I never understand how the global economy works. It seems that every major economy is deep in debt and every year they borrow more money. Which always makes me wonder "who from?". Someone did try and explain that to me once but I didn't really "get" it. Something to do with issuing bonds and rich people buying them or something? So I guess it's possible it could all collapse at some point although my gut feeling is the powers that be won't let it. You may respond they can't stop it in which case we're back to me not being qualified to comment.
    One thing I will say - the powers that be are clearly trying to stop Trump becoming president. If he stands then I don't think it will be a landslide but I do think he'll win. In 2016 there was a big "anyone but Hillary" vote for Trump, I suspect if Biden is the other option then Trump would be the beneficiary of the same effect as Biden clearly not fit to be President. I don't think Trump is either but he does at least still have all his marbles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    To be honest, I never understand how the global economy works. It seems that every major economy is deep in debt and every year they borrow more money. Which always makes me wonder "who from?". Someone did try and explain that to me once but I didn't really "get" it.
    Maybe if you'd asked 'from whom', people would have been a bit more forthcoming

    And btw, the minute you indicate any kind of inferiority to NQ, you're well and truly lost...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Maybe if you'd asked 'from whom', people would have been a bit more forthcoming

    And btw, the minute you indicate any kind of inferiority to NQ, you're well and truly lost...


    I'm just saying when it comes to all this stuff I don't know what I'm talking about.
    That doesn't mean he does know what he's talking about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Maybe if you'd asked 'from whom', people would have been a bit more forthcoming
    Oh, and only if they were boring prescriptivists, pretending they didn't understand when they understood perfectly well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    I'm just saying when it comes to all this stuff I don't know what I'm talking about.
    That doesn't mean he does know what he's talking about!
    oh i know that already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    oh i know that already
    I’d have thought for example the last thing you’d do if there was going to be an imminent economic collapse is rely on hard currency which would immediately be devalued. There have been alarm bells ringing about Deutsch Bank for some time now, and the Chinese economic boom is unsustainable (before long they are going to have massive trouble feeding their own people) so it’s not exactly like he’s just making things up (although it comes with a large dollop of his own tedious political narrative full of unsubstantiated interconnectivity) but we are more in a situation where the global economy stagnates rather than the cinematic calamity being predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’d have thought for example the last thing you’d do if there was going to be an imminent economic collapse is rely on hard currency which would immediately be devalued. There have been alarm bells ringing about Deutsch Bank for some time now, and the Chinese economic boom is unsustainable (before long they are going to have massive trouble feeding their own people) so it’s not exactly like he’s just making things up (although it comes with a large dollop of his own tedious political narrative full of unsubstantiated interconnectivity) but we are more in a situation where the global economy stagnates rather than the cinematic calamity being predicted.
    I was thinking about this again last night and it did occur to me that if the whole thing does blow up in the way NQ imagines (which I doubt, but as discussed I don't know what I'm talking about), then having cold hard cash probably won't do you much good anyway. You'd probably want to be hording things and building a bunker.

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