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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Seriously? The campaigns control the US media?
    I wouldn't say they control the media, but FOX are clearly and unashamedly pro Republican, MSNBC are clearly and unashamedly pro Democrat.
    They don't just report the news, they both constantly spout propaganda for the side they support. Whether they are paid to do so is not really relevant, the end result is whoever you support you can find a new source which constantly tells you what you want to hear and reinforces your beliefs. I happen to think that's a bad thing.

    Sponsored by Pfizer doesn't ring a bell?
    No.

    As for the BBC, they only have the one sponsor, don't they? And it shows.
    Who's that then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Sounds like you are unaware of Operation Mockingbird, you should look that up and then post something up here that states you already knew about it and it's a conspiracy theory.
    Sounds like you are taking a largely unsubstantiated allegation and treating it like gospel truth

    But that’s not fair is it, that’s not the kind of thing you’d do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I wouldn't say they control the media, but FOX are clearly and unashamedly pro Republican, MSNBC are clearly and unashamedly pro Democrat.
    They don't just report the news, they both constantly spout propaganda for the side they support. Whether they are paid to do so is not really relevant, the end result is whoever you support you can find a new source which constantly tells you what you want to hear and reinforces your beliefs. I happen to think that's a bad thing.


    No.


    Who's that then?
    Look, you just aren't aware enough to have a useful opinion on any of this. You are entitled to an opinion, and you give it with gusto, but the gaps in your knowledge are crippling to your understanding of how and why the media works the way it does. And I know, it's just me saying that so he said, she said. But it's just a fact some people are in possession of more information than others. You should seriously find out what, "Sponsored by Pfizer", means and it will start to give you some pointers along the path towards a basic understanding of this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Sounds like you are taking a largely unsubstantiated allegation and treating it like gospel truth

    But that’s not fair is it, that’s not the kind of thing you’d do.
    Where did you go, Wikipedia? Bigger boys than me don't view this in the same convenient and predictable way. You should start with the Church Committee and work forwards until you get to Anderson Cooper and his cohorts. Educate yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Look, you just aren't aware enough to have a useful opinion on any of this. You are entitled to an opinion, and you give it with gusto, but the gaps in your knowledge are crippling to your understanding of how and why the media works the way it does. And I know, it's just me saying that so he said, she said. But it's just a fact some people are in possession of more information than others. You should seriously find out what, "Sponsored by Pfizer", means and it will start to give you some pointers along the path towards a basic understanding of this subject.
    Feel free to point me at some sources.
    I have explained repeatedly why I can't take you seriously as a source or truth but if you point me to some places I'll have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Where did you go, Wikipedia? Bigger boys than me don't view this in the same convenient and predictable way. You should start with the Church Committee and work forwards until you get to Anderson Cooper and his cohorts. Educate yourself.
    First of all the Church Committee’s remit was only to look at abuses of power starting in the 1970s and all three people I referenced started their careers much earlier. And it was focused generally on the intelligence agencies general abuse of power in terms of surveillance and propaganda rather than simply media infiltration.

    But it’s nice to know how you’ve taken that and run with it to make the assumption that all mainstream American media was under the control of US intelligence. I somehow doubt Cronkite’s invectives against the Vietnam war would have been approved by the Pentagon.
    That and the fact that the Church committee was based on press revelations about Intelligence activity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Feel free to point me at some sources.
    I have explained repeatedly why I can't take you seriously as a source or truth but if you point me to some places I'll have a look.
    What is the matter with you? You are asking me to give you a hyperlink to some corporate controlled "source" that confirms your second hand beliefs, and if I don't give you that then around we go again. Have you never heard of a book, dude? Or a court transcript? Or Hansard? Or any of those things that aren't first run through a media filter?

    Where's my source, give me a source, let me see the source! You are literally begging for somebody else to reach your conclusions for you. You get NO sources. But here's some good advice.

    Read books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    First of all the Church Committee’s remit was only to look at abuses of power starting in the 1970s and all three people I referenced started their careers much earlier. And it was focused generally on the intelligence agencies general abuse of power in terms of surveillance and propaganda rather than simply media infiltration.

    But it’s nice to know how you’ve taken that and run with it to make the assumption that all mainstream American media was under the control of US intelligence. I somehow doubt Cronkite’s invectives against the Vietnam war would have been approved by the Pentagon.
    That and the fact that the Church committee was based on press revelations about Intelligence activity
    Ah, hitting the new manifestation of Google, where only the truth gets listed. You aren't even slightly convincing, you aren't capable of stepping out of the lane you have to follow for lack of personal knowledge. The only words you ever use are the ones readily available in the search results. It gives you away, leaves you naked and posing.

    I know, they know, Mockingbird was a thing. I know they'll say it wasn't, what else are they going to say? I know and they know that you'll know whatever they tell you. This isn't your lane. If you can't get past Mockingbird then you have no path to anything useful. So why should I be listening to somebody who would probably tell me I was doing it wrong if I was a bone fide rocket scientist? That's your game, for some weird reason. With Letters he's just afraid, with you? I don't know why you are so desperate to defend your rapist.
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    You two are shark chum. Like, say, 65% of the NPCs wandering around out there. But, you know, 35% is not a bad number. Revolutions only require 10% buy-in, historically speaking. MAyeb more in the age of the mobile phone and drugs to make your cock hard all night long. And since November 5th (how fitting) the 65% is shrinking. Even lefties are scratching the fleas from their unwashed hair and asking, how come they told me this and yet THAT happened. Both their neurons are active, in conflict.

    I'll see you both on the other side, when you both line up to tell me all about the great revelations you have uncovered. And I might even say, well done boys. I'm not a bastard, I'll let you join the club without recrimination.

    It's going to be a wild ride for both of you though. Buckle up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    You two are shark chum. Like, say, 65% of the NPCs wandering around out there. But, you know, 35% is not a bad number. Revolutions only require 10% buy-in, historically speaking. MAyeb more in the age of the mobile phone and drugs to make your cock hard all night long. And since November 5th (how fitting) the 65% is shrinking. Even lefties are scratching the fleas from their unwashed hair and asking, how come they told me this and yet THAT happened. Both their neurons are active, in conflict.

    I'll see you both on the other side, when you both line up to tell me all about the great revelations you have uncovered. And I might even say, well done boys. I'm not a bastard, I'll let you join the club without recrimination.

    It's going to be a wild ride for both of you though. Buckle up.
    NPC Aww down with the kids and using their lingo
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