"Currants Bw..."

[HCZ_Reborn]

That sounds like an opinion to me...

Allow me to present to you what Wikipedia says (all referenced as always):

"Through late 1967 and early 1968, Barrett became increasingly erratic, partly as a consequence of his heavy use of psychedelic drugs such as LSD.[13] Once described as joyful, friendly, and extroverted, he became increasingly depressed, withdrawn, and began experiencing hallucinations, disorganised speech, memory lapses, intense mood swings and periods of catatonia. Although the changes began gradually, according to several friends —including the Pink Floyd keyboardist Richard Wright— he went missing for a long weekend and returned "a completely different person"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syd_Barrett

Yes you’re right, it’s definitely an opinion. I can’t say comprehensively what was wrong with him…apart from anything else I never met the man.

From what I’ve watched/read about Barrett he was always an erratic, off the wall individual. But again even if this claim about personality change is accurate, it doesn’t necessarily imply drug induced psychosis

Now I’ve no doubt that some of the symptoms you’ve quoted would have been present whilst he was taking LSD, in large quantities it’s an extremely potent psychotropic substance. What I’m saying is that he didn’t present as in a state of psychosis after he became abstinent from taking this stuff and the subsequent period after it, leading up to his death. What presented (to me) was a childish dickhead, who never got over being booted out of the band

[Mac76]

...Maybe you just have that unfortunate style where your opinions sound like emphatic statements. ...

...the pink Floyd discussion was actually more interesting

the word 'actually' sounds a bit 'emphatic' to me - don't you mean "i think the Pink Floyd discussion was more interesting"?

[Mac76]

Yes you’re right, it’s definitely an opinion. I can’t say comprehensively what was wrong with him…apart from anything else I never met the man.

From what I’ve watched/read about Barrett he was always an erratic, off the wall individual. But again even if this claim about personality change is accurate, it doesn’t necessarily imply drug induced psychosis

it absolutely implies it, given his mood change coincided with the drug use - it's just that kind of stubborn denial of the facts that make you hard to take seriously

[Letters]

I know people who won't listen to MJ now. I do understand that and, honestly, I think on balance of probability he probably was a wrong'un.
But on the basis that he was never convicted and that I like to think of him as a child-like eccentric, I'll keep playing Thriller thanks very much.
There's a bit of denial going on there, but there was so much conflicting information about him it's really hard to know what really did or didn't happen.

[HCZ_Reborn]

it absolutely implies it, given his mood change coincided with the drug use - it's just that kind of stubborn denial of the facts that make you hard to take seriously

Psychosis means break from reality, so no personality change is not a necessary or sufficient condition for it….given your personality can change and you can still have personal insight and be able to discern reality from fantasy.

And as I say there’s a difference between taking a drug that directly affects your perception and making it a permanent alteration.

For instance if you hallucinate on LSD that’s an effect of the drug, if you’re not taking the drug and are hallucinating it’s a psychotic break.

And again it’s one person’s testimony. And I’ve already said LSD might have aggravated what was already there, but again in my opinion when you read of his behaviour after he’d left Pink Floyd it’s far more redolent of neurotic than psychiatric malody.

What you can or can’t take seriously is of no interest to me frankly

[HCZ_Reborn]

I know people who won't listen to MJ now. I do understand that and, honestly, I think on balance of probability he probably was a wrong'un.
But on the basis that he was never convicted and that I like to think of him as a child-like eccentric, I'll keep playing Thriller thanks very much.
There's a bit of denial going on there, but there was so much conflicting information about him it's really hard to know what really did or didn't happen.

Each to their own

Personally I like Thriller but I still think he was a massive boy botherer who used his wealth and fame to diddle young boys

This doesn’t create a moral schism for me, because the song is still good even if the artist was not

[Mac76]

I must admit, given the general hysteria over anything to do with kids (and i'm not just talking about HCZ ) I am surprised that Wacko Jacko's music is still played in shops and there's even a musical etc.

I guess it's because nothing's proven re what he did/didn't do

I'm not bothered about his music but if i had to listen to one album it would be Off the Wall i think

[Letters]

Off The Wall is arguably better than Thriller.
I think it’s that nothing was proven against him. And, unlike Saville, there aren’t scores of people coming forward to make allegations against him.
Saw him twice back in the day.

[Letters]

#prayforharvey

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewlep7q8dyo

[HCZ_Reborn]

James Earl Jones is dead