Coronavirus Pandemic

[Niall_Quinn]

Before the memory hole consumes it. From Wikipedia so it's safe for indoctrinated people to read it too.

Vaccination is the only known method to prevent the development of tumors when chickens are infected with the virus. However, administration of vaccines does not prevent transmission of the virus, i.e., the vaccine is not sterilizing.[3] However, it does reduce the amount of virus shed in the dander, hence reduces horizontal spread of the disease. Marek's disease does not spread vertically. Before the development of the vaccine for Marek's disease, Marek's disease caused substantial revenue loss in the poultry industries of the United States and the United Kingdom. The vaccine can be administered to one-day-old chicks through subcutaneous inoculation or by in ovo vaccination when the eggs are transferred from the incubator to the hatcher. In ovo vaccination is the preferred method, as it does not require handling of the chicks and can be done rapidly by automated methods. Immunity develops within two weeks.[4]

However, because vaccination does not prevent infection with the virus, Marek's is still transmissible from vaccinated flocks to other birds, including the wild bird population. The first Marek's disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek's disease was quite low. Decades after the first vaccine was introduced, current strains of Marek Virus cause lymphoma formation on throughout the chicken's body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek's disease vaccine is a leaky vaccine, which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented.[11] Infection of the host and the transmission of the virus are not inhibited by the vaccine. This contrasts with most other vaccines, where infection of the host is prevented. Under normal conditions, highly virulent strains of the virus are not selected. A highly virulent strain would kill the host before the virus would have an opportunity to transmit to other potential hosts and replicate. Thus, less virulent strains are selected. These strains are virulent enough to induce symptoms but not enough to kill the host, allowing further transmission. However, the leaky vaccine changes this evolutionary pressure and permits the evolution of highly virulent strains.[12] The vaccine's inability to prevent infection and transmission allows the spread of highly virulent strains among vaccinated chickens. The fitness of the more virulent strains are increased by the vaccine.

The evolution of Marek's disease due to vaccination has had a profound effect on the poultry industry. All chickens across the globe are now vaccinated against Marek's disease (birds hatched in private flocks for laying or exhibition are rarely vaccinated). Highly virulent strains have been selected to the point that any chicken that is unvaccinated will die if infected. Other leaky vaccines are commonly used in agriculture. One vaccine in particular is the vaccine for avian influenza. Leaky vaccine use for avian influenza can select for virulent strains which could potentially be transmitted to humans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%...ase#Prevention

Meanwhile, the UK, Brazilian and South African Variants of Concern all coincide with AstraZeneca's rushed and incomplete testing program. Maybe coincidence, maybe a dire warning that should be alarming scientists and medical professionals. Regardless, the irresponsibility of unleashing an experimental vaccine into the global population can't be overstated. The people behind this may call themselves medical professionals and scientists, but they certainly aren't behaving as such. Perhaps the real reason for the accelerating ban on the AstraZeneca vaccine is due to the intervention of white hat scientists and medical professionals who are well aware of how dangerous this experiment might turn out to be.

More research needs to be done into the other vaccines too and their rushed and incomplete testing programs and the unintended (perhaps unintended) and unwanted (perhaps unwanted) potential to kill millions of human beings. The implications for liberty are also profound.

Even I pause before suggesting this is a deliberate action, as opposed to unrestrained greed and unmatched incompetence. It's only a short pause though, before I withdraw any benefit of the doubt. Either way, evil prospers if good men don't intervene soon.

We should also demand a rolling lockdown death toll. How many people has the state killed with its lockdown policies, of which the vaccines are just one element? Why do we not see that number? Apart from the people killed by the vaccines, many must have died by now due to the heroes at the NHS locking them out, or the tinpot dictators in parliament shutting down their livelihoods. We need to see that number.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Von Der Leyden giving a press conference at the EU today where she states they are considering banning exports of vaccines to countries that have higher vaccination rates then the EU and also considering seizing production & suspending intellectual property rights of the vaccines.


Obviously its all AstreaZeneca’s fault as the EU like to blame them (interestingly they never seem to blame Pfizer which just happens to be made in Europe) but of the 60 million doses delivered to the EU, only 48 million have been used. It not the lack of vaccines that is the problem but rather then incompetence of the vaccine rollout & scaremongering with fake news about the safety of the vaccine from the European leaders.


Anyway, what was it remainers used to claim? Oh yes, we’d be better off & safer in the EU. That’s going well

The roll out is indeed a shambles. But before we start sucking each other’s dicks, let’s have another look at those mortality statistics.

[GP]

Von Der Leyden giving a press conference at the EU today where she states they are considering banning exports of vaccines to countries that have higher vaccination rates then the EU and also considering seizing production & suspending intellectual property rights of the vaccines.


Obviously its all AstreaZeneca’s fault as the EU like to blame them (interestingly they never seem to blame Pfizer which just happens to be made in Europe) but of the 60 million doses delivered to the EU, only 48 million have been used. It not the lack of vaccines that is the problem but rather then incompetence of the vaccine rollout & scaremongering with fake news about the safety of the vaccine from the European leaders.


Anyway, what was it remainers used to claim? Oh yes, we’d be better off & safer in the EU. That’s going well

We could have done the exact same thing with regards to the vaccine had we still been members of the EU.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We could have done the exact same thing with regards to the vaccine had we still been members of the EU.

But think of the bananas!

[GP]

But think of the bananas!

I'm always thinking of bananas.

[Letters]

I'm always thinking of bananas.

I bet you like them bendy.

[GP]

I bet you like them bendy.

I certainly don't like 'em straight.

[Letters]

The roll out is indeed a shambles. But before we start sucking each other’s dicks, let’s have another look at those mortality statistics.

OK. I've looked at them. Now can we?

[Ollie the Optimist]

We could have done the exact same thing with regards to the vaccine had we still been members of the EU.

Except that isn’t true.

There are several reasons why we could not have done what we have done with the vaccine if we were still in the EU.

1. The EU stopped countries like Germany, France, Netherlands (& i believe either Spain or Italy) from agreeing their own contracts with AZ. The EU took control of the vaccine purchasing & distribution process which led to delays. France etc had agreed a contract in June, the EU delayed signing it until August as they tried to renegotiate terms.

That meant delays in setting up supply chains which is resulting in slow rollout of the vaccine now. So the UK would not have been allowed to negotiate their own deals as all other 27 states were not allowed so why would UK have been?

2. While it is true each country’s medical regulator can issue emergency authorisation for drugs before teh EMA, it is almost 100% certain taht would not have happened in the UK. The reason being is that if we were still in the EU, the EMA would have still been based in the UK. It only moved because of brexit i believe. Therefore, given the EMA effectively outsourced a lot of work to the UK regulator, it would have been incredibly difficult politically if the UK authorised a vaccine and the EMA hadn’t.

3. As we would have been part of the EU vaccine scheme, we wouldn’t have received as many doses as we have so while we might have rolled it out at the same speed as we have now (i.e several hundred thousand doses a day), we would not have vaccinated as many people.


There are benefits to being in the EU but in this case, the vaccine rollout success is because we are out of the EU and made our own decisions and at speed. Take the AZ contract, we agreed it in May and started working on supply chains. As i mentioned, EU stopped Germany etc from signing their own deal (the CEO of AZ in an interview said they had agreed a deal with those countries ) and took an additional 2 months to agree the same deal themselves. This lost valuable time.

[Mac76]

maybe Ollie but we still have one of the highest Covid death rates per capita in teh world and our government has made a lot of mistakes - it's almost only got this one thing right by accident tbh but trust them to crow about it