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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Well seeing as the top 10 highest earning players in Germany all play for Bayern and their highest earner is Neuer (clearly on merit) at £338k a week, I am struggling to see if he could have gotten similar terms without having a heavily discounted transfer fee....which is what I believe should have happened in our case. Lets not forget we sold Auba and got rid of Ozil at great discounts to achieve exactly what Chelsea has done.

    The point is he likely had options, so joining us wasn’t a last chance for his career so there was no need for him to take a pay cut, it’s clear we didn’t have an issue paying those wages…so there we are. Genuinely thinks Arteta sees Havertz as being the Salah for Liverpool or De Bruyne for Chelsea that didn’t work out at Chelsea, whether that turns out to be the case who knows…will have to wait and see…don’t even know what position he’s going to play.

    At this point don’t really give a fuck about his wages one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Havertz becomes our highest earner by quite a mile.

    Honestly someone needs to give me (and probably Pogba) the number of his witchdoctor because I don't get the terms of this signing at all... I mean what happens if he actually achieves his "apparent" potential, will we be paying him a gazillion pounds then?

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...r-30369217.amp
    If that's the case Arteta and Edu had better brace themsleves for a whole bunch of new wage demands from other players, it just breeds resentment

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Personally I liked AMN as a defender, don't rate any of our current fullbacks that much ahead of him, except maybe Tierney ( who we are not getting the best from anyway).

    I think he would have been perfect for someone like Arteta who likes players that play like robots...but obviously he thinks otherwise.

    Really hope he has a successful career ahead of him, the poor guy does have a demanding mother to take care of.
    Yeah if AMN had just accepted he was actually a good RB, he could actually have been playing quite a few games at the end of the season given the issues we had in defence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    If that's the case Arteta and Edu had better brace themsleves for a whole bunch of new wage demands from other players, it just breeds resentment
    We’ve recently tied down a load of players to new contracts, at the moment there isn’t really anyone in a strong position to make such demands. This idea that we were going to pay as much as we did for this guy and then offer him less seems counter-intuitive.

    We are in agreement that this is a high risk signing, that doesn’t seem obviously to make sense. But it does make sense that if you want this player you’re going to pay him what he was on before (and more so)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Yeah if AMN had just accepted he was actually a good RB, he could actually have been playing quite a few games at the end of the season given the issues we had in defence
    Be interesting to see what this Dutchman is like. I think probably means Tomoyasu is gone (no great loss)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Reports suggest he was slightly on less than 300k at the Chavs, so we've rewarded him with an over 10% increase for what exactly? No wonder this deal went through so fast, clearly the Chavs got one over us with this.

    Its too late, but we really should have thought this over properly, its not like he is filling any gaping hole we have in the team so I really don't get the urgency of this signing nor the terms.
    The initial reports where he was on 210 at Chelsea and that's what he took for arsenal. There's no way he was on 300 at Chelsea and no way arsenal have him such a pay raise. Wouldn't believe the Mirror.


    What are Kai Havertz’s contract details at Arsenal?
    He is expected to sign a long-term contract that aligns with the current wages of 210,000 pounds, 265,000 dollars, per week at Stamford Bridge. The length of the deal will be around 5 five years.

    https://en.as.com/soccer/arsenal-sig...act-details-n/

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    We’ve recently tied down a load of players to new contracts, at the moment there isn’t really anyone in a strong position to make such demands. This idea that we were going to pay as much as we did for this guy and then offer him less seems counter-intuitive.

    We are in agreement that this is a high risk signing, that doesn’t seem obviously to make sense. But it does make sense that if you want this player you’re going to pay him what he was on before (and more so)
    fair point re renewed contracts, but that won't potentially stop some resentment, could even make it worse adn will up the stakes for any other significant signings we make

    apparently, while there's conflicting reports, some say he's on as much as double what he was on before and given that was Chelsea, if true it sounds a bit over the top

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    fair point re renewed contracts, but that won't potentially stop some resentment, could even make it worse adn will up the stakes for any other significant signings we make

    apparently he's on as much as double what he was on before and given that was Chelsea, it sounds a bit over the top
    I don’t believe for a second we’ve doubled his wages. I think the Scotsman actually has a point that this is paper talk where they are just pulling money figures out of their fat arses
    Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 02-07-2023 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    The point is he likely had options, so joining us wasn’t a last chance for his career so there was no need for him to take a pay cut, it’s clear we didn’t have an issue paying those wages…so there we are. Genuinely thinks Arteta sees Havertz as being the Salah for Liverpool or De Bruyne for Chelsea that didn’t work out at Chelsea, whether that turns out to be the case who knows…will have to wait and see…don’t even know what position he’s going to play.

    At this point don’t really give a fuck about his wages one way or the other.
    Both players you mentioned didn't break the wage ceilings when they joined their respective clubs and DeBruyne in particular had a spectacular season with Wolfsburg where he practically rebuilt his reputation, which was why City agreed to pay the second highest transfer fee in the EPL at that time for an EPL flop.

    We'll probably need to leave this discussion where it is. My opinion is this hasn't been a great deal by any stretch of the imagination...but I do hope we get value from him, though we've started off on the wrong foot already.
    Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 02-07-2023 at 12:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    The initial reports where he was on 210 at Chelsea and that's what he took for arsenal. There's no way he was on 300 at Chelsea and no way arsenal have him such a pay raise. Wouldn't believe the Mirror.


    What are Kai Havertz’s contract details at Arsenal?
    He is expected to sign a long-term contract that aligns with the current wages of 210,000 pounds, 265,000 dollars, per week at Stamford Bridge. The length of the deal will be around 5 five years.

    https://en.as.com/soccer/arsenal-sig...act-details-n/
    I really hope your source is true, though I seriously doubt it as most sources on the net have for ages put Kai's salary at the Chavs as 290- 310 a week...and this was way before we came into the mix. Also the report of his salary (@ Arsenal) came from a german newspaper initially.

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