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    I'm not convinced arrest statistics are that telling.
    The number of arrests from the incident on the Metro the other night is currently 0.
    It may lead to some arrests but only because a video happened to be taken and be splashed all over the news.
    The number of arrests from the incident I witnessed while going to an Arsenal vs Chelsea game (some Chelsea knuckle draggers racially abusing some Orthodox Jews who got on the train) was 0. Should I have reported it? Maybe. Would anyone have been arrested? I doubt it.

    It isn't 'spiralling out of control', no, and we're not back in the 80s. But there IS a nasty element at Chelsea and sure, we all have our knuckle draggers but from my experience (and that of others I know) it is worse there.

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    The chant is apparently something they made up to defend their racist captain. So essentially they've trivialized racism.

    Disgusting club and fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'm not convinced arrest statistics are that telling.
    The number of arrests from the incident on the Metro the other night is currently 0.
    It may lead to some arrests but only because a video happened to be taken and be splashed all over the news.
    The number of arrests from the incident I witnessed while going to an Arsenal vs Chelsea game (some Chelsea knuckle draggers racially abusing some Orthodox Jews who got on the train) was 0. Should I have reported it? Maybe. Would anyone have been arrested? I doubt it.

    It isn't 'spiralling out of control', no, and we're not back in the 80s. But there IS a nasty element at Chelsea and sure, we all have our knuckle draggers but from my experience (and that of others I know) it is worse there.
    The statistics are more telling than the media editing a video and blowing one incident out of all proportion in relation to what goes on in football generally but to a much lesser degree than this shoddy journalism is suggesting.

    The one good thing that could come out of it is the front page fuss probably means there are a bunch of thugs shitting it and wishing they could have kept their mouths shut. So maybe in the future thugs will think twice before they act up in public.

    But the massively counter-productive side of this is the obnoxious media has again managed to trivialise the nature and scope of racism and distract from the structural racism that is not just present in but actually drives the upper tiers of our society. We can never tackle racism at the root if we keep getting misdirected into the stereotype it is a problem specific to or particularly prevalent in football or among the "ignorant" classes in general. The most harmful forms of racism are practised clinically and to devastating effect by the lads who went to Harrow and Eton. When are they going to get pulled up for it? Racism in all its forms I mean, stuff far, far worse than name calling.

    Are you aware of the language our troops use when they go to "war", for instance? We cheer these fuckers in the street when they slink home.
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    An absolutely ludicrous article from Henry Winter. What a fucking cock.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-football.html

    Is he not aware that Call Me Dave is sponsoring a bunch of goons in the Ukraine who model themselves on the Nazis and take great delight in terrorising ethnic minorities in their society, particularly Jews? Will the education Winter is proposing be compulsory for Dave and his gang? I'm afraid changing the name of the Nationalist Socialists to the "Freedom" Party doesn't really cut it Dave. Back to the classroom mate.
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    Other shoe drops. So now we know what it was all about.

    Chelsea fan Josh Parsons identified from racist Paris Metro train video is pictured with UKIP leader Nigel Farage - as victim tells of his shocking ordeal
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ng-ordeal.html
    Half way down the "article":

    There is no suggestion that either was involved in the pushing of the passenger or the racist chanting.
    I see what you did there, Daily Mail.
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    Tuesday 24th February (Champions League Last 16):


    Juventus v Borussia Dortmund - 19:45

    Manchester City v Barcelona - 19:45


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    No Yaya for Citeh, because of his ban. They were completely outplayed by a 10-man Bayern, but pubbed it out and I think that might happen again tonight. Especially with Barca's flimsy record in England. 2-2. Barcelona to win at the Nou Camp.

    Dortmund have recovered some form and were strangely doing well in Europe anyway, so I think they'll win at Juventus and come through that tie.

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    Manchester City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Demichelis, Clichy, Fernando, Milner, Nasri, Silva, Dzeko, Aguero.
    Subs: Caballero, Sagna, Mangala, Fernandinho, Lampard, Navas, Bony.

    Barcelona XI: Ter Stegen; Alves, Pique, Mascherano, Alba; Busquets, Rakitic, Iniesta; Messi, Suarez, Neymar.
    Subs: Bravo, Xavi, Pedro, Rafinha, Sergi Roberto, Adriano, Mathieu.

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    I'm a a huge Barca fan. For tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I'm a a huge Barca fan. For tonight.
    Me too. hope Citeh lose 0-5 and Kompany scores three own goals. Dailymail wont know what to write.

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