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    The one year review thing is a cynical way to extend his contract beyond 2 years and get out ahead of the inevitable backlash from fans who are thinking, fuck it, fine, he's here for 2 more years so we just live with it.

    This is a war between the club and the fans. The fans want the obvious, success on the pitch, and the club wants the obvious, personal wealth for the fuckers surrounding the trough - Wenger included. So the club has to put on a stage performance to make it seem like they have an interest in sport. That's all this is. The politics of war.
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    Of course Wenger wants success on the pitch. He doesn't have the ability to deliver it (although he thinks he does) but I honestly think that's what he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The one year review thing is a cynical way to extend his contract beyond 2 years and get out ahead of the inevitable backlash from fans who are thinking, fuck it, fine, he's here for 2 more years so we just live with it.

    This is a war between the club and the fans. The fans want the obvious, success on the pitch, and the club wants the obvious, personal wealth for the fuckers surrounding the trough - Wenger included. So the club has to put on a stage performance to make it seem like they have an interest in sport. That's all this is. The politics of war.
    I genuinely think it’s more a way of him sneaking out the back if it’s gets too much whilst convincing himself he has still always honoured his contracts.

    His desire in remaining at Arsenal is having more control than any other manager and being frightened of retirement

    If making money was his key target he’d have sold Sanchez in the summer. That he didn’t just shows that he’s a nit wit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The one year review thing is a cynical way to extend his contract beyond 2 years and get out ahead of the inevitable backlash from fans who are thinking, fuck it, fine, he's here for 2 more years so we just live with it.

    This is a war between the club and the fans. The fans want the obvious, success on the pitch, and the club wants the obvious, personal wealth for the fuckers surrounding the trough - Wenger included. So the club has to put on a stage performance to make it seem like they have an interest in sport. That's all this is. The politics of war.
    I totally agree, the guy will probably sign another 2 year contract then, they're a crafty lot. The guy shows no signs of wanting to leave, last season was a disaster and he dangled the possibility of him being unsure about him staying when in reality he knew all along, that much was obvious, some people thought he could leave, I never thought he would, he loves the power too much, success isn't all that important to him (not on the pitch anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Of course Wenger wants success on the pitch. He doesn't have the ability to deliver it (although he thinks he does) but I honestly think that's what he wants.
    He doesn't do anything to deliver success, in the summer again he didn't sort out anything, to me that's not the work of a man who wants success that badly, if you did you'd go out and get the players signed up asap, he does the same every summer and when the same mistakes occur he sweeps them under the carpet by saying rubbish like this is te best group of players, they showed great spirit and togetherness, I believe in this group etc etc.

    I don't believe the guy is that bothered about success on the pitch (I'm not saying he doesn't enjoy winning, just that he success isn't that important, his own words about the success of coming 4th show that), I think he's more bothered about the balance sheet, you don't go 12 years without a major honour and behave the way he does if you're desperate to win, he barely tries to make us successful, it's not even a case of not being able to, that's a cop out.

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    He signed Ozil, Cech, Sanchez and Lacazettte. We don't need players of that quality to bumble along.
    I think he has tried to deliver success and the FA cup was a decent start but we haven't pushed on.
    Agree he's not one to try and achieve success at any cost though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    He signed Ozil, Cech, Sanchez and Lacazettte. We don't need players of that quality to bumble along.
    I think he has tried to deliver success and the FA cup was a decent start but we haven't pushed on.
    Agree he's not one to try and achieve success at any cost though
    He's consistently not done enough in the transfer market, last summer, the summer before, Cech was a 2nd keeper at Chelsea, Sanchez was rejected at Barca and Ozil was surplus to requirements at Real, none of them were players at the top of their game and wanted by all the top sides, very good players no doubt but that doesn't prove a lot, that's 3 players in 12 years, that's not building a team, that's signing 3 players you like the look of without considering what your team need and what it's weaknesses are.

    IMO those signings were more to keep us in and around the top than winning stuff, those players will never (and haven't) win you the big prizes without quality around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Of course Wenger wants success on the pitch. He doesn't have the ability to deliver it (although he thinks he does) but I honestly think that's what he wants.
    What does he SAY he wants (trophies, big signings) and what does he actually GET (renewed contracts, big money). I'll judge him on his actions, not his words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I genuinely think it’s more a way of him sneaking out the back if it’s gets too much whilst convincing himself he has still always honoured his contracts.

    His desire in remaining at Arsenal is having more control than any other manager and being frightened of retirement

    If making money was his key target he’d have sold Sanchez in the summer. That he didn’t just shows that he’s a nit wit.
    I'd love to believe Kroenke gives a fuck beyond his basic business model which, in a nutshell is:

    1) Insider information,
    2) Stick in the wife's cash,
    3) Wait
    4) Take 200-300% profit...

    Let's just hope the cunt doesn't sell all the assets before he leaves.

    If Wenger can end run Gazidis and secure a new contract in a single meeting, that after fucking up the wholse season and only pulling his arse out of the fire with a random cup win after passage via two non-league teams... fuck me, the bloke is a lucky bastard. Just like Zim said.

    Kroenke doesn't give a flying fuck and that means Wenger is in total control. He won't be going anywhere.
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    What possible reason would he not want to succeed? Just money? He'd get that anyway, he might even get more if we succeed.
    Makes zero sense that a manager at this level wouldn't want to succeed.

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