Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A manager that’s embarrassed by his CL record and frustrated with not winning the League title in over a decade doesn’t just sign Lacazette and Kolasnic after dropping out of the Top 4. Especially when Sanchez and Ozil are in the final year of their contract and you want to convince them to sign an extension.

Wenger has no professional pride or drive.

The board claimed there was no money available for new signings two days before the end of the transfer window which leaves three possibilities

A) They are covering for his lack of desire to spend or lack of ability to get deals done
B) They don’t want him spending anymore money because they don’t trust him
C) They aren’t being honest over the finances of the club

We know for a while about Wengers reluctance to spend and how Dein tried to convince him. The irony is despite signing players like Xhaka is that he agonises and prevaricates on a players value for ages....he is incredibly indecisive and yet despite this insists on full control.
In Wengers own mind I think he’d rather not spend big and then claim the financial advantage of the clubs like city, Chelsea and United than spend big and know he has no excuse to hide behind.

Also I think the board doesn’t allocate the full amount of its actual spending power. Which explains the protracted negotiations for Mustafi, because he didn’t have enough to sign a striker and had to settle for Lucas Perez who he didn’t really want.

[Niall_Quinn]

What about the insane 92mill bid for Lemar? Stunt or real?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What about the insane 92mill bid for Lemar? Stunt or real?

Dependent on the money we would have got from selling Sanchez to City I imagine

[Niall_Quinn]

Dependent on the money we would have got from selling Sanchez to City I imagine

For sure. But what was going on behind the scenes I wonder. Right up until the last day of the window we flat refused to pay a fee that would have secured the player. A 50 mill bid when the window opened and before Monaco got raided would have secured him. The player said he wanted to come. Monaco are a selling team, it's their model. We had the money and Lemar was supposedly our top target. Instead we fucked around with lowball bids that weren't close to Monaco's valuation. Wasted all that time, made the deal harder to do as time passed and Monaco started to lose players, pissed off Monaco with our fucking around, pissed off the player, pissed off the fans. Typical Arsenal and all the hallmarks of Wenger dithering around and trying to land a bargain where there was no bargain to be had. A total fuck-up.

Then, just as the player is about to start an important International match, our bids go through the roof and eventually treble our initial offer. That can't have been Wenger, it's just not in his make-up. Surely it was somebody else who came in and made a desperate bid to land the player, money no object. Who would that have been and how was Wenger cut out of the equation? And why can't it happen every transfer window?

[Power n Glory]

We made a £18m profit last summer. There is no way I'm falling for the 'no money' line again.

[Özim]

A manager that’s embarrassed by his CL record and frustrated with not winning the League title in over a decade doesn’t just sign Lacazette and Kolasnic after dropping out of the Top 4. Especially when Sanchez and Ozil are in the final year of their contract and you want to convince them to sign an extension.

Wenger has no professional pride or drive.

No, I totally agree, what we did last summer was less than the bare minimum it was never going to be enough to have a chance of the title given our previous season, we needed at least 4 top quality players to come in in various areas on top of changes elsewhere, like coaching amongst other things.

[Niall_Quinn]

We made a £18m profit last summer. There is no way I'm falling for the 'no money' line again.

There's every indication the money is there, provided of course it is the fans' and TV/ sponsor's money and not from Stan's or any other shareholder's pocket. We moved fast for Lacazette and paid a club record fee. And then there was more cash for Lemar, but Wenger fucked that up trying to assert his crackpot ideas about value. And that bid eventually went to 92 mill, so the no money thing has zero evidence to support it. Wenger has been allowed to spend (or waste) almost 200 million in recent windows. And yet the money was not initially there to tie down Alexis, Ozil or Ox. In the end all three players were offered what they'd initially wanted, perhaps Ozil's offer was still a bit light, but certainly the other two were offered what they demanded. By then both Alexis and Ox wanted out regardless so these late offers were refused. More dithering.

It's quite possible that if Wenger had been sent on holiday at the end of the season and removed entirely from the transfer process we could have secured Alexis early at 300kpw, which by the standards of this crazy market he is worth, secured Ox at around the amount we waste on Theo, signed Lemar with an early 50 mill bid. And that could have transformed the way Ozil viewed the ambitions of the club and led to his signature too. Speculation and we'll never know for sure, but it's safe enough to say we'd have had more chance of a positive outcome without Wenger's involvement.

Instead we've bungled it and the net result will be a threadbare squad come the summer, in terms of genuinely top tier talent.

It's not the money, is it? It's Wenger.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We made a £18m profit last summer. There is no way I'm falling for the 'no money' line again.

The question isn’t so much do we have money or don’t we (we do) but why the board claims we don’t. Is it to protect Wenger or is it a sign of not trusting him as much with money.

[Özim]

I still don't understand why he got rid of the invincibles in such a short space of time

Why did he go for project youth? The amount of £ we spent on overpaid youth players, we could have just carried on with the normal model of experience + youth. There was no need to go to an extreme.

That was one of his biggest downfalls imo. All this mentally weak crap is relatively new, we were renowned for being the mentally strongest and having a strong character. Wenger wiped that out in the space of 24 months and filled the changing room with young, brittle, mentally weak players.

The youth project seems to coincide with the 10 year youth plan he had when he arrived, so this idea had been brewing a while.

He had it all at the time, quality players, leadership, pace, flair and success, then he decided he should dismantle the entire team quickly without adequate replacements line up, change the style of play and do the exact opposite of what brought him success, to this day he's not even tried to revert back to those successful methods, all very weird.

[Letters]

I thought Project Youth was a response to the difficulty in competing in the transfer market at the time when the billionaires were having their biggest impact in the game and the stadium was hampering our finances somewhat.