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    Arsenal 1-0 Shatkah Player ratings and match Reaction

    Raya 7.5 - Didn’t have much to do but was switched on to make a good save late on


    White 6 - Doesn’t look fully fit


    Saliba 6.5 - Didn’t have a great deal to do


    Gabriel 7 - Solid performance


    Calafiori 5.5 - Mincing like a tart on the ball, still think it was a foul you can’t just barge someone off the ball


    Rice 5 - Apalling


    Partey 6 - Would have given him an 8 on his first half performance but being put at right back where he can’t play changed the game, as we lost control in midfield and were vulnerable on the left hand side


    Trossard 4 - Stank out the place like a beer shit


    Jesus 6 - Showed some moments of quality, surprised he was taken off


    Martinelli 5 - Cunt


    Havertz 7 - Held up the ball well and worked his bollocks off as usual



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    Merino 5 - Could have just kept 25 million in the bank couldn’t we or actually signed a striker


    Sterling 4 - Pathetic


    Lewis-Skelley 5 - Not going to judge him too harshly because he’s a youngster but he looked out of his depth


    Jorginho - Not on long enough to give him a rating



    Well that was special wasn’t it, the first half was poor and the second half exceeded all expectations in how terrible we could be. I’m glad we missed the pel because it would have given us an extended lead we in no way deserved. In fact we didn’t deserve to win tonight, take away that they were utterly toothless as we were up front and they definitely deserved at least a draw, against a bunch of listless cowards.
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    This sums it up

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    Absolutely shit really. Don’t think anyone saw that second half coming after a fairly bright first half.

    Quite clear we are bereft of ideas at the moment and the forwards have gone off the boil. Well, they haven’t really been on the boil all season if we’re honest.

    No harm done in the grand scheme of things as far as the CL goes so I’ll forget this game but we need a massive improvement for the weekend or I have no doubt that Liverpool game will be a painful watch.

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    We are heading for serious trouble if we keep playing like we have been.

    It's a total shit show, even the defence is not as solid as before because we are sitting back and being too cautious.

    And don't even let me get started on our attack - WTF is going with them all?!?

    To quote Patches Houlihan: They "look like a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob"
    It's gone back to every attack putting the ball out to the wing to cross in (even on a 2v1 counter attack ffs!) and passing the ball 50 times in the box.

    It's fucking terrible!

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    Poor...and worrying.

    We are looking similar to last season at this time - when the team appeared disjointed; low on confidence and bereft of a clear game plan...despite picking up some points. This malaise culminated in December's shit show before the January Dubai trip seemed to re-set the team.

    Yes we had an OK first half against sub-standard European competition, but the stand outs for me were the stodginess of a MF dominated by 6's; the lack of verticality and ball progression, and our ponderous attacking build up play (Martinelli excepted).

    Arteta seems to be obsessed with physicality rather than playmaking ATM. Trying to use Rice as an attacking option sums this up - and he looks half the player he did last season - and certainly not like a £105M signing. I think this is down to the manager not playing him where he can use his strengths rather than the player himself. FFS Rice used to be regarded as a player who could anchor MF on his own and do the job of 2 defensive No, 6's. Anyone noticed how toothless our much vaunted corners look with him delivering them?

    I was hopeful that Sterling could provide cover for Saka but every time I see him play I'm thinking Sterling = Willian. To me he looks like a busted flush. Jesus was looking better than he has for a while playing at RW. Given Sterling's totally underwhelming displays this season, plus the fact that we owe him nothing, could jesus not have been left on to try to play himself into some form? How about a change that put him up top with Havertz dropping deeper where he could help to instill some creative spark?

    Partey was one of our best players last night but has noone to pass to when he remained in MF. Merino alongside Rice made us even more stodgy. The guy can win tackles but slows us down. I am worried that we will suffer from Arteta's obsession with making his pet signing work.

    I'm wondering what happened to the Kai/Trossard relationship that seemed the answer to Odegard's absence. Trossard was dog shit. Havertz so isolated that he could do nothing.

    ...and seeing MLS come on instead of Zinchenko or Kiwor (I know - but for all his faults Zin can be a playmaker and Jacob has done OK at LB), was a head scratcher - not least because Nwaneri was kept on the bench despite being (1) needed and (2) ahead of MLS in his development.

    We are missing key players in Saka and Odegard but even so, the manager seems confused in his approach to games and even the team suddenly seems to lack cohesion

    Is there a problem in the camp? Aretea now seems to be freezing Zinchenko out (I know that he is not everyone's favourite player, but the problem as always is that if we do need to call on him going forwards he won't be ready for it). Taking Jesus off will merely compound his lack of confidence, and what did it achieve?

    We are looking unrecognisable from the team we saw between January and May this year. The absense of Saka and Odegard does not fully explain this.
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    I didn't watch the game and am therefore accepting it was as bad as people say (although I think there's a tendency towards the negative on here)

    But we need to consider it's a team playing it's second game in three days after many had been on international duty, are recovering from injury or still being accomodated into the side, either as young players or new purchases, ultimately they got the job done despite playing badly - isn't that what good teams are supposed to do? I wonder if some players had Liverpool on their minds and so played within themselves?

    That said, I think it's another game that exposes Arteta's flaws

    I'd much preferred to see more rotation, particularly a Nwaneri start, but that's Arteta's caution again, something I think is holding us back more and more clearly after every game.

    consider:

    1. buying more defensive players but no attacker (apart from the Sterling loan)
    2. going into full retreat against Brighton and Bournemouth when Citeh would have kept all their attackers on the field and gone for the win regardless
    3. not willing to trust younger/fringe players

    If he can't get himself out of this mindset he has to go at the end of the season - it's not a winning mentality

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    It was a (narrow) win, yes - and we had a number of chances (including a fortuitous but then missed penalty) to increase the margin of victory.

    But I think that the negativty - not just on here but in the wider Gooner community stems from:

    1. The knowledge that we must win a major trophy to maintain the development of this team now. We won't keep our world class players if we don't, and Arteta must justify his project/spending.

    2. We have to be almost perfect to do so. Last season showed us that. Our competitors are finding ways to win when up against it. We have been found wanting in the EPL, and shot ourselves in the foot in this regard already.

    3. We have undoubtedly regressed from where we were in the second half of last season. Player absenses account for part of this, but not all.

    I hate the fact that the pressure not to drop points is affecting my midset (and I feel that of the players and our mananger), but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post

    I hate the fact that the pressure not to drop points is affecting my midset (and I feel that of the players and our mananger), but it is what it is.
    This is a fair point and it makes it a bit miserable - particularly as most of the dropped points have been due to incredibly harsh refereeing - I'd even include the Bournemouth one in that as if you see the nuances in the rules there was enough there for him to stick to his decision of a yellow and in the Liverpool game later a similar incident wasn't punished with a red

    The combination of Citeh and referees feels like it's sucking all the joy out of football, at least for those who watch at a distance - i do at least have the matchday experience for most home games, but the world's against us and it does turn things a bit grey...

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    I think IBK is correct in that the momentum we built up from the beginning of 2024 is gone, however it’s equally true that a) I think performance like last night was an outlier, I think even against Bournemouth we didn’t start great but we’d started to establish control before the sending off and b) we have won every game bar one where we have had 11 men on the pitch. It’s not worth dwelling too much on the red cards…I think we all agree that at its most generous we can say we have fallen afoul of officious refereeing

    I think overall we look better than we did a year ago, but there seems to be an obsession with control over creativity. Jesus was probably the only player that offered something a bit vaguely different and even then his confidence is through the floor.
    But absolutely we can see that he has potential playing on the right.

    Nwaneri is not going to get much from ten minute cameos when we are doing game management at the end. If he was meant to be Odegaard’s understudy than us him as such. Stodging midfield the way we do actually means we have to push up more and leave ourselves exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I think IBK is correct in that the momentum we built up from the beginning of 2024 is gone, however it’s equally true that a) I think performance like last night was an outlier, I think even against Bournemouth we didn’t start great but we’d started to establish control before the sending off and b) we have won every game bar one where we have had 11 men on the pitch. It’s not worth dwelling too much on the red cards…I think we all agree that at its most generous we can say we have fallen afoul of officious refereeing

    I think overall we look better than we did a year ago, but there seems to be an obsession with control over creativity. Jesus was probably the only player that offered something a bit vaguely different and even then his confidence is through the floor.
    But absolutely we can see that he has potential playing on the right.

    Nwaneri is not going to get much from ten minute cameos when we are doing game management at the end. If he was meant to be Odegaard’s understudy than us him as such. Stodging midfield the way we do actually means we have to push up more and leave ourselves exposed.
    I would say that most of our performances have been below our normal standard with the exception of City, Villa & PSG games.

    Against Leicester we had a brain fart for some of the game and let them back in and against Southampton we were awful, made them look like a top 6 team at times!

    Arteta said he wanted us to be better defensively but we seem to have sacrificed most of our attacking nous to focus solely on that.
    The team need to realise they need to keep doing the other things well on top of defending better.

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